Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing and SPSS CEO:

2009-10-21 Thread Rolf Turner


On 22/10/2009, at 7:20 AM, David M Smith wrote:


It is clearly inappropriate for me or anyone else from REvolution to
comment on matters pertaining to any employee or ex-employee. I would
further add that this is a highly inappropriate use of this list.


Oh, I dunno.  I have the impression that the REvolution
initiative has, or could have, a substantial impact upon R,
and thus what goes on at REvolution is of concern to the
R community.


Apologies to all concerned.


For what?  For the fact that a particular cat has been let
out of a particular bag?

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing and SPSS CEO:

2009-10-21 Thread kulwinder banipal

Well I do not think that this is highly inappropriate use of this list. I am 
sure you new designation of VP makes you feel all more powerful but your 
authority does not extend to this list. It should continue to rest with Core R 
team. It seems had this list been under your control (i.e revolution computing) 
you would have turned it off-typically Corporate Strategy. Just an example 
how money and designation influences those who claim otherwise.  

 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:20:08 -0400
 From: da...@revolution-computing.com
 To: ohri2...@gmail.com
 CC: r-help@r-project.org
 Subject: Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing  
 and SPSS CEO:
 
 It is clearly inappropriate for me or anyone else from REvolution to
 comment on matters pertaining to any employee or ex-employee. I would
 further add that this is a highly inappropriate use of this list.
 Apologies to all concerned.
 
 # David Smith
 
 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Ajay ohri ohri2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Start the REvolution without me...
 
 -- 
 David M Smith da...@revolution-computing.com
 VP of Community, REvolution Computing www.revolution-computing.com
 Tel: +1 (206) 577-4778 x3203 (Palo Alto, CA, USA)
 
 Download REvolution R free:
 http://revolution-computing.com/downloads/revolution-r.php
 
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Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing and SPSS CEO:

2009-10-21 Thread Rolf Turner


On 22/10/2009, at 8:27 AM, kulwinder banipal wrote:



Well I do not think that this is highly inappropriate use of this  
list. I am sure you new designation of VP makes you feel all more  
powerful but your authority does not extend to this list. It should  
continue to rest with Core R team. It seems had this list been  
under your control (i.e revolution computing) you would have turned  
it off-typically Corporate Strategy. Just an example how money  
and designation influences those who claim otherwise.


Right on, Red Freak!!!

cheers,

Rolf Turner



Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:20:08 -0400
From: da...@revolution-computing.com
To: ohri2...@gmail.com
CC: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution  
Computing	and SPSS CEO:


It is clearly inappropriate for me or anyone else from REvolution to
comment on matters pertaining to any employee or ex-employee. I would
further add that this is a highly inappropriate use of this list.
Apologies to all concerned.

# David Smith

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Ajay ohri ohri2...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Start the REvolution without me...


--
David M Smith da...@revolution-computing.com
VP of Community, REvolution Computing www.revolution-computing.com
Tel: +1 (206) 577-4778 x3203 (Palo Alto, CA, USA)

Download REvolution R free:
http://revolution-computing.com/downloads/revolution-r.php

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Re: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing and SPSS CEO:

2009-10-21 Thread Ajay ohri
I am sorry.

I will refrain from this in the future (using the list which is a technical
resource and not a forum inappropriately).

My blog has my views on it -http://decisionstats.com so I wont cut and paste
on that.

I would like to applaud David's team at REvolution for finally releasing an
Ubuntu version of REvolution R, though the Windows version 64 bit was
developed much earlier. I would like to say that Dave's credentials in open
source or his personal technical authority has not been questioned by me (
and I don't think by anyone on this list).

The new management is led by an ex Founder of SPSS, so I guess that things
are looking up already.

A new CEO can only mean more hunger to get R up and running in corporate
circles so that smart people who write excellent code start making more
money than ...?

. Commerce demands that REvolution gets a bigger share than it has been
getting and thats what most of the people on this list want ( except there
is no forums section for discussion for R- help while there are forums
section.

Ajay
Knoxville

Student

Go Vols!


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Erik Iverson eiver...@nmdp.org wrote:

 Nothing to do with what R-help is about.  Please refrain from posting
 things like this in the future.

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  On Behalf Of Ajay ohri
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:52 PM
  To: r-help@r-project.org; sas-l; spssx-l
  Subject: [R] News on R s largest corporate partner REVolution Computing
  and SPSS CEO:
 
  Start the REvolution without me...
  http://danesecooper.blogs.com/divablog/2009/10/start-the-revolution-
  without-me.html
 
  *From Danese Cooper's Blog*
 
 
  Some of you may have become aware of REvolution
  Computinghttp://revolution-computing.com/,
  a commercial open source company organized around the R
  Languagehttp://www.r-project.org/,
  when I joined in March
  http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10202355-92.htmlof this year.  For
  the past few months we have been working on a B-Round of
  funding.  It was an interesting process and I was happy to be working in
  my
  first startup company after so many years in very large corporations.
 
  We built a small team to work on Community Engineering, by which we
  meant
  developing assets both to benefit the R Language community as well as to
  entice and inform the Alpha-Geek community to learn and use R.  We set
  up
  an Advisory Board designed to advise REvolution management about
 decisions
  relating to REvo and Open Source, and we helped put REvolution R into the
  Karmic Koala release of Ubuntu.  It was really fun to work in a small,
  agile
  team and I felt like I was getting a great education in startups and we
  were
  rapidly moving the company forward...Why didn't I join a startup years
  ago?
 
  The funding deal closed on Wednesday last week...
 
  Late the next afternoon I received a call from the new COO notifying me
  that
  my services would no longer be required at REvolution., effective
  immediately and with no severance.  Apparently, the company is moving in
 a
  different direction.
  http://blog.revolution-computing.com/2009/10/revolution-computing-gets-
  major-funding-new-ceo.html
 
  I was surprised that the new CEO,  wasn't personally handling this
  unpleasant task...but I guess that might have been distasteful after the
  many assurances he gave me and my team last July at OSCON that we were
  absolutely critical to the company's success and that he would be
  making
  no changes for at least three months after he assumed control.  Personal
  courage in difficult situations is rare.
 
  What I find most interesting about today's REvolution announcements is
 the
  space they spent thanking the previous management team, given nearly all
  of
  us, including the Founders and the Board, were just fired.  47% of the
  company wiped out and nobody left with more than a year of
  experience...Shit
  happens...
 
  And so we begin to pick up the pieces and move on.  I've spent much of
 the
  past few days consoling coworkers, personally breaking the news to the
  many
  kind friends who had agreed to help us increase interest in R and
  Revolution, and working out what I might be doing next.  I have some
  interesting possibilities already, although I'm still open to
  suggestions...so stay tuned.
 
  Meanwhile I can honestly say that the new REvolution Computing will
 little
  resemble the company I was proud to join and represent.  I still think
 the
  R
  Language is really interesting, but I'm no longer sure REvo is the one to
  watch in this space anymore...For the sake of my friends among the
  remaining
  employees and shareholders I hope I'm wrong.
 
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