Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Fox, John]

Dear Brian,

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Brian Grossman  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> It appears that the new version of R   3.6.3 does not have this issue. I will 
> be doing more testing and will let you know if we have any issues.

I'm glad that the Rcmdr is now working normally for you -- thanks for letting 
me know.

Since no one else has reported a similar problem under R 3.6.2, I suspect that 
your installation was somehow broken or strangely configured. I guess that 
we'll never know what the source of the problem was.

Best,
 John

> 
> Thank you for your assistance,
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John  wrote:
> Dear Brian,
> 
> Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session and loaded 
> at the start of the current session would cause this kind of anomalous 
> behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts up properly in a 
> second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't start up properly when R is 
> run with the --vanilla switch.
> 
> Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
> 
> If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and packages.
> 
> Best,
>  John
> 
>   -
>   John Fox, Professor Emeritus
>   McMaster University
>   Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>   Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it the
> > first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go through
> > the process of launching and get to the point where it says
> > 
> > "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
> >  method  from
> >  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
> >  influence.merModcar
> >  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
> >  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
> > lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
> > See ?effectsTheme for details."
> > 
> > and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you launch
> > another instance of R and run the same command it will complete and launch
> > Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with the
> > same results.
> > 
> > The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500 processor, 8GB
> > RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
> > 
> > Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you for any
> > suggestions.
> > 
> >   [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> > 
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> MI I 48109
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Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Brian Grossman]

John,

It appears that the new version of R 3.6.3 does not have this issue. I will
be doing more testing and will let you know if we have any issues.

Thank you for your assistance,

Brian

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John  wrote:

> Dear Brian,
>
> Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session and
> loaded at the start of the current session would cause this kind of
> anomalous behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts up
> properly in a second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't start up
> properly when R is run with the --vanilla switch.
>
> Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
>
> If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and
> packages.
>
> Best,
>  John
>
>   -
>   John Fox, Professor Emeritus
>   McMaster University
>   Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>   Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>
> > On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman  wrote:
> >
> > I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it the
> > first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go through
> > the process of launching and get to the point where it says
> >
> > "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
> >  method  from
> >  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
> >  influence.merModcar
> >  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
> >  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
> > lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
> > See ?effectsTheme for details."
> >
> > and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you launch
> > another instance of R and run the same command it will complete and
> launch
> > Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with
> the
> > same results.
> >
> > The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500 processor, 8GB
> > RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64
> (64-bit)
> >
> > Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you for any
> > suggestions.
> >
> >   [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> >
> > __
> > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> > PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>
>

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Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Brian Grossman]

I did some testing and was able to run the tcltk commands without any
problems. It brought up the graph normally when I hit the submit button and
when I changed the values and hit submit it would change the graph
accordingly.The interesting thing is that after the tkdestroy(tt) command I
tried running library(Rcmdr) and it launched successfully. I'm not sure
what that means, but hopefully someone else will.

Thank you,

Brian

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:02 PM Fox, John  wrote:

> Dear Bernhard, Peter, and Brian,
>
> Thanks, Peter, for the suggestion. If you're right then the problem is
> with tcltk more generally and not directly with the Rcmdr package.
>
> Brian: That's easily checked and might clarify what's going on: Load the
> tcltk package via library(tcltk), and then try the following example from
> ?TkWidgetcmds:
>
>  snip --
>
> tt <- tktoplevel()
> tkpack(txt.w <- tktext(tt))
> tkinsert(txt.w, "0.0", "plot(1:10)")
> eval.txt <- function()
>eval(parse(text = tclvalue(tkget(txt.w, "0.0", "end"
> tkpack(but.w <- tkbutton(tt, text = "Submit", command = eval.txt))
>
> ## Try pressing the button, edit the text and when finished:
>
> tkdestroy(tt)
>
>  snip --
>
> Best,
>  John
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:18 AM
> > To: Peter Dalgaard ; Fox, John 
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Subject: AW: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> >
> > Good catch, Peter; Cylance might be the culprit - at least I encountered
> > problems by compiling C++ sources and/or building packages with
> interfaced
> > routines and here a memory checker kicked in.
> > Maybe something akin is happening by launching Rcmdr (tcl/tk)?
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: R-help  Im Auftrag von Peter Dalgaard
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 10:29
> > An: Fox, John 
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Betreff: [EXT] Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> >
> > Any chance that a virus checker is interfering?
> >
> > -pd
> >
> > > On 10 Mar 2020, at 23:43 , Fox, John  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Brian,
> > >
> > > (Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this
> > > problem they'll have something to refer to.)
> > >
> > > Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to
> > understand what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people,
> > are using the Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's
> > particularly hard for me to understand is that you're able to start the
> Rcmdr in
> > a second R session. Does the first R session have to remain open for
> this to
> > work?
> > >
> > > A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package,
> if you
> > haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including
> deleting the
> > R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather
> than under
> > Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that I
> > subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install
> packages
> > into a personal library.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Brian Grossman 
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
> > >> To: Fox, John 
> > >> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> > >>
> > >> John,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo()
> > >> right after opening R.
> > >>
> > >>> sessionInfo()
> > >> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
> > >> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10
> > >> x64 (build 18362)
> > >>
> > >> Matrix products: default
> > >>
> > >> locale:
> > >> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
> > >> States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4]
> > >> LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
> > >>
> > >> attached base packages:
> > >> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
> > >>
> > >> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
> > >> [1] compiler_3.6.2
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Bri

Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Fox, John]

Dear Brian,

I'm afraid that I have no idea about what's going on, particularly why your 
second attempt to start the Rcmdr works, whether after a first attempt, or now 
after using tcltk. 

Did you follow up on Peter's suggestion that your antivirus software may be the 
source of the problem?

Best,
 John

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Brian Grossman  wrote:
> 
> I did some testing and was able to run the tcltk commands without any 
> problems. It brought up the graph normally when I hit the submit button and 
> when I changed the values and hit submit it would change the graph 
> accordingly.The interesting thing is that after the tkdestroy(tt) command I 
> tried running library(Rcmdr) and it launched successfully. I'm not sure what 
> that means, but hopefully someone else will.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:02 PM Fox, John  wrote:
> Dear Bernhard, Peter, and Brian,
> 
> Thanks, Peter, for the suggestion. If you're right then the problem is with 
> tcltk more generally and not directly with the Rcmdr package.
> 
> Brian: That's easily checked and might clarify what's going on: Load the 
> tcltk package via library(tcltk), and then try the following example from 
> ?TkWidgetcmds:
> 
>  snip --
> 
> tt <- tktoplevel()
> tkpack(txt.w <- tktext(tt))
> tkinsert(txt.w, "0.0", "plot(1:10)")
> eval.txt <- function()
>eval(parse(text = tclvalue(tkget(txt.w, "0.0", "end"
> tkpack(but.w <- tkbutton(tt, text = "Submit", command = eval.txt))
> 
> ## Try pressing the button, edit the text and when finished:
> 
> tkdestroy(tt)
> 
>  snip --
> 
> Best,
>  John
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:18 AM
> > To: Peter Dalgaard ; Fox, John 
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Subject: AW: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> > 
> > Good catch, Peter; Cylance might be the culprit - at least I encountered
> > problems by compiling C++ sources and/or building packages with interfaced
> > routines and here a memory checker kicked in.
> > Maybe something akin is happening by launching Rcmdr (tcl/tk)?
> > 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: R-help  Im Auftrag von Peter Dalgaard
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 10:29
> > An: Fox, John 
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Betreff: [EXT] Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> > 
> > Any chance that a virus checker is interfering?
> > 
> > -pd
> > 
> > > On 10 Mar 2020, at 23:43 , Fox, John  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Brian,
> > >
> > > (Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this
> > > problem they'll have something to refer to.)
> > >
> > > Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to
> > understand what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people,
> > are using the Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's
> > particularly hard for me to understand is that you're able to start the 
> > Rcmdr in
> > a second R session. Does the first R session have to remain open for this to
> > work?
> > >
> > > A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package, if 
> > > you
> > haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including 
> > deleting the
> > R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather than 
> > under
> > Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that I
> > subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install 
> > packages
> > into a personal library.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Brian Grossman 
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
> > >> To: Fox, John 
> > >> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> > >>
> > >> John,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo()
> > >> right after opening R.
> > >>
> > >>> sessionInfo()
> > >> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
> > >> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10
> > >> x64 (build 18362)
> > >>
> > >> Matrix products: default
> > >>
> > >> locale:
> > >> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
>

Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Fox, John]

Dear Bernhard, Peter, and Brian,

Thanks, Peter, for the suggestion. If you're right then the problem is with 
tcltk more generally and not directly with the Rcmdr package.

Brian: That's easily checked and might clarify what's going on: Load the tcltk 
package via library(tcltk), and then try the following example from 
?TkWidgetcmds:

 snip --

tt <- tktoplevel()
tkpack(txt.w <- tktext(tt))
tkinsert(txt.w, "0.0", "plot(1:10)")
eval.txt <- function()
   eval(parse(text = tclvalue(tkget(txt.w, "0.0", "end"
tkpack(but.w <- tkbutton(tt, text = "Submit", command = eval.txt))

## Try pressing the button, edit the text and when finished:

tkdestroy(tt)

 snip --

Best,
 John


> -Original Message-
> From: Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:18 AM
> To: Peter Dalgaard ; Fox, John 
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: AW: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> 
> Good catch, Peter; Cylance might be the culprit - at least I encountered
> problems by compiling C++ sources and/or building packages with interfaced
> routines and here a memory checker kicked in.
> Maybe something akin is happening by launching Rcmdr (tcl/tk)?
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: R-help  Im Auftrag von Peter Dalgaard
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 10:29
> An: Fox, John 
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Betreff: [EXT] Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> 
> Any chance that a virus checker is interfering?
> 
> -pd
> 
> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 23:43 , Fox, John  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Brian,
> >
> > (Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this
> > problem they'll have something to refer to.)
> >
> > Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to
> understand what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people,
> are using the Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's
> particularly hard for me to understand is that you're able to start the Rcmdr 
> in
> a second R session. Does the first R session have to remain open for this to
> work?
> >
> > A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package, if 
> > you
> haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including deleting 
> the
> R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather than 
> under
> Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that I
> subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install 
> packages
> into a personal library.
> >
> > Best,
> > John
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Brian Grossman 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
> >> To: Fox, John 
> >> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo()
> >> right after opening R.
> >>
> >>> sessionInfo()
> >> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
> >> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10
> >> x64 (build 18362)
> >>
> >> Matrix products: default
> >>
> >> locale:
> >> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
> >> States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4]
> >> LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
> >>
> >> attached base packages:
> >> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
> >>
> >> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
> >> [1] compiler_3.6.2
> >>
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John  >> <mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Dear Brian,
> >>
> >>Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session
> >> and loaded at the start of the current session would cause this kind
> >> of anomalous behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts
> >> up properly in a second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't
> >> start up properly when R is run with the --vanilla switch.
> >>
> >>Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
> >>
> >>If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and
> >> packages.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >> John
> >>
> >>  -
> >>  John Fox, Profess

Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Pfaff, Bernhard Dr.]

Good catch, Peter; Cylance might be the culprit - at least I encountered 
problems by compiling C++ sources and/or building packages with interfaced 
routines and here a memory checker kicked in.
Maybe something akin is happening by launching Rcmdr (tcl/tk)?

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: R-help  Im Auftrag von Peter Dalgaard
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 10:29
An: Fox, John 
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Betreff: [EXT] Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

Any chance that a virus checker is interfering?

-pd

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 23:43 , Fox, John  wrote:
> 
> Dear Brian,
> 
> (Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this 
> problem they'll have something to refer to.)
> 
> Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to 
> understand what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people, are 
> using the Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's particularly 
> hard for me to understand is that you're able to start the Rcmdr in a second 
> R session. Does the first R session have to remain open for this to work?
> 
> A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package, if you 
> haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including deleting 
> the R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather 
> than under Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that 
> I subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install 
> packages into a personal library.
> 
> Best,
> John
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian Grossman 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
>> To: Fox, John 
>> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo() 
>> right after opening R.
>> 
>>> sessionInfo()
>> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
>> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10 
>> x64 (build 18362)
>> 
>> Matrix products: default
>> 
>> locale:
>> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
>> States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4] 
>> LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
>> 
>> attached base packages:
>> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
>> 
>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>> [1] compiler_3.6.2
>> 
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John > <mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Dear Brian,
>> 
>>  Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session 
>> and loaded at the start of the current session would cause this kind 
>> of anomalous behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts 
>> up properly in a second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't 
>> start up properly when R is run with the --vanilla switch.
>> 
>>  Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
>> 
>>  If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and 
>> packages.
>> 
>>  Best,
>>   John
>> 
>>-
>>John Fox, Professor Emeritus
>>McMaster University
>>Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>>Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__socserv.mcmaster
>> .ca_jfox=DwIFAg=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmLIuwsQ=OhbxYoJKYsmfC2WjzTKFj7Fw
>> 1qyrbJIFo5BfgVqACaM=385Kfv02lZxykzhYHnbjRxxzMBywESQnuptbnhDtfTc=a
>> eoHPeyoWEbF1Lq409kfGNS_AauUuCunIr_B_-mNx68= >
>> 
>>  > On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman > <mailto:gross...@umich.edu> > wrote:
>>  >
>>  > I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it 
>> the
>>  > first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go 
>> through
>>  > the process of launching and get to the point where it says
>>  >
>>  > "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
>>  >  method  from
>>  >  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
>>  >  influence.merModcar
>>  >  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
>>  >  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
>>  > lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
>>  > See ?effectsTheme for details."
>>  >
>>  > and then 

Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Peter Dalgaard]

Any chance that a virus checker is interfering?

-pd

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 23:43 , Fox, John  wrote:
> 
> Dear Brian,
> 
> (Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this problem 
> they'll have something to refer to.)
> 
> Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to 
> understand what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people, are 
> using the Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's particularly 
> hard for me to understand is that you're able to start the Rcmdr in a second 
> R session. Does the first R session have to remain open for this to work?
> 
> A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package, if you 
> haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including deleting 
> the R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather 
> than under Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that 
> I subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install 
> packages into a personal library.
> 
> Best,
> John
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian Grossman 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
>> To: Fox, John 
>> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo() right 
>> after
>> opening R.
>> 
>>> sessionInfo()
>> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
>> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10 x64
>> (build 18362)
>> 
>> Matrix products: default
>> 
>> locale:
>> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
>> States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4]
>> LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
>> 
>> attached base packages:
>> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
>> 
>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>> [1] compiler_3.6.2
>> 
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John > <mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Dear Brian,
>> 
>>  Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session
>> and loaded at the start of the current session would cause this kind of
>> anomalous behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts up
>> properly in a second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't start up
>> properly when R is run with the --vanilla switch.
>> 
>>  Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
>> 
>>  If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and
>> packages.
>> 
>>  Best,
>>   John
>> 
>>-
>>John Fox, Professor Emeritus
>>McMaster University
>>Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>>Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>> <http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox>
>> 
>>  > On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman
>> mailto:gross...@umich.edu> > wrote:
>>  >
>>  > I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it
>> the
>>  > first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go
>> through
>>  > the process of launching and get to the point where it says
>>  >
>>  > "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
>>  >  method  from
>>  >  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
>>  >  influence.merModcar
>>  >  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
>>  >  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
>>  > lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
>>  > See ?effectsTheme for details."
>>  >
>>  > and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you
>> launch
>>  > another instance of R and run the same command it will complete
>> and launch
>>  > Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with
>> the
>>  > same results.
>>  >
>>  > The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500
>> processor, 8GB
>>  > RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-
>> mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
>>  >
>>  > Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you
>> for any
>>  > suggestions.
>>  >
>>  >   [[alternative HTML version de

Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Fox, John]

Dear Brian,

(Please keep r-help in the loop so that if someone else has this problem 
they'll have something to refer to.)

Your session at start-up seems completely clean, so I'm at a loss to understand 
what the problem is. I, and I assume very many other people, are using the 
Rcmdr with essentially the same Windows setup. What's particularly hard for me 
to understand is that you're able to start the Rcmdr in a second R session. 
Does the first R session have to remain open for this to work?

A next step is to reinstall packages, starting with the Rcmdr package, if you 
haven't already tried that, and eventually to reinstall R, including deleting 
the R package library. BTW, I usually prefer to install R in c:\R\ rather than 
under Program Files so that the system library is used for packages that I 
subsequently install, although it should work perfectly fine to install 
packages into a personal library.

Best,
 John

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Grossman 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:07 PM
> To: Fox, John 
> Subject: Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr
> 
> John,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. Here is the output from running sessionInfo() right 
> after
> opening R.
> 
> > sessionInfo()
> R version 3.6.2 (2019-12-12)
> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows 10 x64
> (build 18362)
> 
> Matrix products: default
> 
> locale:
> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United
> States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4]
> LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
> 
> attached base packages:
> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
> 
> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
> [1] compiler_3.6.2
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Fox, John  <mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca> > wrote:
> 
> 
>   Dear Brian,
> 
>   Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session
> and loaded at the start of the current session would cause this kind of
> anomalous behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts up
> properly in a second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't start up
> properly when R is run with the --vanilla switch.
> 
>   Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?
> 
>   If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and
> packages.
> 
>   Best,
>John
> 
> -
> John Fox, Professor Emeritus
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
> Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
> <http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox>
> 
>   > On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman
> mailto:gross...@umich.edu> > wrote:
>   >
>   > I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it
> the
>   > first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go
> through
>   > the process of launching and get to the point where it says
>   >
>   > "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
>   >  method  from
>   >  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
>   >  influence.merModcar
>   >  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
>   >  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
>   > lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
>   > See ?effectsTheme for details."
>   >
>   > and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you
> launch
>   > another instance of R and run the same command it will complete
> and launch
>   > Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with
> the
>   > same results.
>   >
>   > The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500
> processor, 8GB
>   > RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-
> mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
>   >
>   > Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you
> for any
>   > suggestions.
>   >
>   >   [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>   >
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Re: [R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Fox, John]

Dear Brian,

Normally I'd expect that a workspace saved from a previous session and loaded 
at the start of the current session would cause this kind of anomalous 
behaviour, but that doesn't explain why the Rcmdr starts up properly in a 
second (concurrent?) session, nor why it doesn't start up properly when R is 
run with the --vanilla switch.

Can you report the result of sessionInfo() at the start of a session?

If all else fails, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling R and packages.

Best,
 John

  -
  John Fox, Professor Emeritus
  McMaster University
  Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  Web: http::/socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Brian Grossman  wrote:
> 
> I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it the
> first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go through
> the process of launching and get to the point where it says
> 
> "Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
>  method  from
>  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
>  influence.merModcar
>  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
>  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
> lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
> See ?effectsTheme for details."
> 
> and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you launch
> another instance of R and run the same command it will complete and launch
> Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with the
> same results.
> 
> The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500 processor, 8GB
> RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
> 
> Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you for any
> suggestions.
> 
>   [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> 
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[R] Problem launching Rcmdr

[Brian Grossman]

I'm having a problem with launching Rcmdr. When I try to launch it the
first time through R using the command library(Rcmdr) it will go through
the process of launching and get to the point where it says

"Registered S3 methods overwritten by 'lme4':
  method  from
  cooks.distance.influence.merMod car
  influence.merModcar
  dfbeta.influence.merMod car
  dfbetas.influence.merModcar
lattice theme set by effectsTheme()
See ?effectsTheme for details."

and then it just hangs there and never launches Rcmdr. If you launch
another instance of R and run the same command it will complete and launch
Rcmdr successfully. I have tried launching R with R.exe --vanilla with the
same results.

The system information is Windows 10 version 1903, i5 8500 processor, 8GB
RAM, 256Gb  SSD. R version 3.6.2 Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)

Hopefully I haven't left out any important information. Thank you for any
suggestions.

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