Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Norris

Hi,

Just to add to this thread (with my first ever R list post).  I got a 
Dell Mini 9 (I think it is called the Inspirion 910 in the US?) 
yesterday running Ubuntu with 2GB and a 32 GB SSD.


While the machine came with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS it is a version which has 
been compiled by Dell to suit the architecture of the Atom processor. 
As such, standard 386 binaries seem to cause problems and programs need 
to be recompiled.  Downloaded R 8.2.1 source from CRAN this morning and 
it all compiled without error and runs very nicely (graphics windows 
seem appropriately sized for the screen etc).


Paul

Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Hi,

For what it's worth, it's a trivial operation to replace the on-board
1Gb with a 2Gb module, which doesn't cost too much. Okay, being a bit
demanding I also replaced the hard-disk with a 320 Gb one to harbour a
dual boot ubuntu-eee / windows XP. But that does give a machine which
is a worthy replacement of the once state-of-the art Acer Travelmate
800 I used to have. I happily run R and even virtual machines using
VMWare. Truth be told, it being a netbook, you may want to rely on and
connect to external computational resources for the real heavy stuff.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Ted Harding
ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:

On 08-Mar-09 17:44:18, Douglas Bates wrote:

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey i...@aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
wrote:

At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Dear useRs,
With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted
to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and
hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and
feel with respect to R.

Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and
if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?

One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do
use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard
distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about
using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a
total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with
the recent move to lenny.

Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions
like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of
Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are
currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, easy peasy and eeebuntu,
that are specific to the eee pc models.  I started with easy peasy
at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later
switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions
of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly.

I find the netbook to be very convenient.  Having a 5 hour battery
life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of
my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor,
USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a
desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the eee box covetously
but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another
computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that
it is under-powered by today's standards. Of course, when I
started computing and even when I started working with the S
language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes
so the thought of only 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek
in horror.

Thanks for sharing your experiences, Doug. Given that devices like
the EeePC are marketed in terms of less demanding users, it's good
to know what it is like for a hard user. Further related comments
would be welcome!

I have to agree about the RAM issue too. My once-trusty old Sharp
MZ-80B CP/M machine (early 1980s), with its 64KB and occupying
a good 0.25 m^3 of physical space, would have to be replicated
2^14 = 16384 times over to give the same RAM (and occupy some
400 m^3 of space, say 7.4m x 7.4m x 7.4m, or about the size of
my house). Now I have things on my desk, about the size of my
thumb, with 8MB in each.

Ted.


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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Norris

Dear Dirk,

As a Ubuntu newbie I was going by the information on the following 
couple of webpages which talk about the need to turn the i386 binaries 
into binaries for lpia architecture:


http://mydellmini.com/forum/i386-packages-on-lpia--t3540s75.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6528287#post6528287

As I'm new to all this (a gradually reducing Windows addict)I was not 
sure which files from CRAN were needed for the 386 binary so opted not 
to use the script mentioned on the above webpage.


R2.6.2 appears in the package manager on the Mini 9 but I decided I'd 
give compiling the latest version a shot.  As I say I'm rather new to 
this so if anyone has any experience which suggests that the above is 
not relevant and you can just use the ubuntu binaries directly, I'd be 
happy to hear about it.


All the best,

Paul

Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:

Paul,

On 20 March 2009 at 13:41, Paul Norris wrote:
| Just to add to this thread (with my first ever R list post).  I got a 
| Dell Mini 9 (I think it is called the Inspirion 910 in the US?) 


So, it's sold as Dell Mini 9. I like those too and am considering buying one.

| yesterday running Ubuntu with 2GB and a 32 GB SSD.
| 
| While the machine came with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS it is a version which has 
| been compiled by Dell to suit the architecture of the Atom processor. 
| As such, standard 386 binaries seem to cause problems and programs need 


That's the first I hear of that. Can you back that up with that website,
mailing list, ... discussion?

To the very best of my knowledge, all x86 compatibles just work, including
say the Via chips in some super-small mobos. All AMD and Intel chips work.

However, the kernel and libc switched a while back to effectively only (as I
recall) 586 and later are now supported. But all new chips work.

| to be recompiled.  Downloaded R 8.2.1 source from CRAN this morning and 
| it all compiled without error and runs very nicely (graphics windows 
| seem appropriately sized for the screen etc).


Could you possibly try the Ubuntu binaries from CRAN ?  They should just
work. Vincent and Michael do a very nice job of recompiling my Debian
packages. I actually run these Ubuntu builds at work (on amd64).

Cheers, Dirk (aka the R maintainer for Debian and hence effectively for Ubuntu)




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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

For what it's worth, it's a trivial operation to replace the on-board
1Gb with a 2Gb module, which doesn't cost too much. Okay, being a bit
demanding I also replaced the hard-disk with a 320 Gb one to harbour a
dual boot ubuntu-eee / windows XP. But that does give a machine which
is a worthy replacement of the once state-of-the art Acer Travelmate
800 I used to have. I happily run R and even virtual machines using
VMWare. Truth be told, it being a netbook, you may want to rely on and
connect to external computational resources for the real heavy stuff.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Ted Harding
ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
 On 08-Mar-09 17:44:18, Douglas Bates wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey i...@aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
 wrote:
 At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Dear useRs,
 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted
 to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and
 hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and
 feel with respect to R.

 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and
 if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
 gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?

 One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do
 use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard
 distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about
 using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a
 total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with
 the recent move to lenny.

 Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions
 like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of
 Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are
 currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, easy peasy and eeebuntu,
 that are specific to the eee pc models.  I started with easy peasy
 at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later
 switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions
 of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly.

 I find the netbook to be very convenient.  Having a 5 hour battery
 life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of
 my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor,
 USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a
 desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the eee box covetously
 but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another
 computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that
 it is under-powered by today's standards. Of course, when I
 started computing and even when I started working with the S
 language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes
 so the thought of only 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek
 in horror.

 Thanks for sharing your experiences, Doug. Given that devices like
 the EeePC are marketed in terms of less demanding users, it's good
 to know what it is like for a hard user. Further related comments
 would be welcome!

 I have to agree about the RAM issue too. My once-trusty old Sharp
 MZ-80B CP/M machine (early 1980s), with its 64KB and occupying
 a good 0.25 m^3 of physical space, would have to be replicated
 2^14 = 16384 times over to give the same RAM (and occupy some
 400 m^3 of space, say 7.4m x 7.4m x 7.4m, or about the size of
 my house). Now I have things on my desk, about the size of my
 thumb, with 8MB in each.

 Ted.

 
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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-08 Thread Michael Dewey

At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Dear useRs,

With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to 
get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard 
disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel 
with respect to R.


Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if 
so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking 
gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?


One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use 
Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard 
distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about 
using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a 
total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with 
the recent move to lenny.




Many thanks,

Bernd


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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-08 Thread Douglas Bates
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey i...@aghmed.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Dear useRs,

 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to get one
 of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to
 be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R.

 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what
 is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a
 feasable platform to do some stats on?

 One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use Linux I
 would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard distributions. The
 early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about using the Debian
 repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a total lack of experience
 although I am not sure what will happy with the recent move to lenny.

Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions like
Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of Ubuntu
within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000.  There are
currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, easy peasy and eeebuntu,
that are specific to the eee pc models.  I started with easy peasy
at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later
switched to eeebuntu.   In both cases packages for the latest versions
of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly.

I find the netbook to be very convenient.  Having a 5 hour battery
life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful.  I teach all of
my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor, USB
keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a desktop
computer.  (I have been eyeing the eee box covetously but have not
yet convinced myself that I really need yet another computer).  I
develop R packages on it and don't really notice that it is
under-powered by today's standards.  Of course, when I started
computing and even when I started working with the S language the
memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes so the thought
of only 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek in horror.

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-08 Thread Ted Harding
On 08-Mar-09 17:44:18, Douglas Bates wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey i...@aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
 wrote:
 At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Dear useRs,
 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted
 to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and
 hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and
 feel with respect to R.

 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and
 if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
 gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?

 One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do
 use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard
 distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about
 using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a
 total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with
 the recent move to lenny.
 
 Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions
 like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of
 Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are
 currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, easy peasy and eeebuntu,
 that are specific to the eee pc models.  I started with easy peasy
 at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later
 switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions
 of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly.
 
 I find the netbook to be very convenient.  Having a 5 hour battery
 life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of
 my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor,
 USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a
 desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the eee box covetously
 but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another
 computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that
 it is under-powered by today's standards. Of course, when I
 started computing and even when I started working with the S
 language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes
 so the thought of only 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek
 in horror.

Thanks for sharing your experiences, Doug. Given that devices like
the EeePC are marketed in terms of less demanding users, it's good
to know what it is like for a hard user. Further related comments
would be welcome!

I have to agree about the RAM issue too. My once-trusty old Sharp
MZ-80B CP/M machine (early 1980s), with its 64KB and occupying
a good 0.25 m^3 of physical space, would have to be replicated
2^14 = 16384 times over to give the same RAM (and occupy some
400 m^3 of space, say 7.4m x 7.4m x 7.4m, or about the size of
my house). Now I have things on my desk, about the size of my
thumb, with 8MB in each.

Ted.


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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-07 Thread chaogai
Johannes Huesing wrote:
 chaogai chao...@xs4all.nl [Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 07:04:19PM CET]:
   
 I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will
 work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are
 in the habit of doing so.

 

 On the Fedora version that came with my Acer Aspire One, I am even thinking of
 compiling R itself as the current R version is 2.6.0 ...

 Otherwise, everything seems fine and the keyboard is indeed the greatest
 letdown so far (the tiny left mouse button a close second).


   
I did do that. Most practical is to get the R-devel from the
repositories. It is the wrong version, will bring what you need to build
regarding other dependencies. Then remove R-devel and you can get your
2.8.1 sources from CRAN.
Not sure about the exact names of the things. Now happy on Suse 11.1
after a brief fling with the Fedora 10.

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-06 Thread Michael A. Miller
 Liaw, == Liaw, Andy andy_l...@merck.com writes:

 Are you sure that's dual atoms?  AFAIK it has a single Atom
 N270 (single core) at 1.6GHz.  With hyper-threading, you
 may see two cpus.

Yep - that is exactly what is going on.

Mike

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-06 Thread Johannes Huesing
chaogai chao...@xs4all.nl [Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 07:04:19PM CET]:
 I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will
 work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are
 in the habit of doing so.
 

On the Fedora version that came with my Acer Aspire One, I am even thinking of
compiling R itself as the current R version is 2.6.0 ...

Otherwise, everything seems fine and the keyboard is indeed the greatest
letdown so far (the tiny left mouse button a close second).


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  One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture 
mailto:johan...@huesing.name  from such a trifling investment of fact.  
  
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[R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread herrdittmann
Dear useRs,

With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to get one of 
these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. 
What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R.

Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is 
your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable 
platform to do some stats on?

Many thanks,

Bernd

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Philipp Pagel
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:47:25AM +, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to
 get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard
 disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel
 with respect to R.
 
 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if
 so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
 gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?

I have R on my ASUS eeePC 1000H under Debian Linux and it works just
fine. In my opinion the most limiting thing is the small keyboard.
Everything else (RAM, Screen, CPU power) is what you would expect
given the specs: Not the platform of choice for large-scale number 
crunching or writing elaborate programs but certainly good enough to
do a little work on the train/plane/hotel/...

cu
Philipp

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Jim Lemon

herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to
 get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard
 disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel
 with respect to R.
 
 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if

 so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
 gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
  
I've got R on my little EeePC as well. Great for most jobs and I highly 
recommend a DC/DC convertor for plugging into your car's cigarette 
lighter to get around the crap battery problem.


Jim

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[R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Millo Giovanni
Dear Bernd,

I fully subscribe to Jim and Philipp's posts, plus a note on operating
systems, case you're a Windows user. I've got an eeePC 900, standard
Xandros Linux version, happily running R. With LaTeX-Beamer installed,
weighing less than 1 Kg and with WiFi this makes for an excellent
companion on conferences and meetings. You can also get models with
built-in UMTS from telecoms.
As this was my first Linux box in my Windows-useR experience, the feel
of R was quite different at the beginning; then I started using
Emacs+ESS and i liked it so much that I took it over to Windows as well,
so now the feel is the same for me irrespective of the OS I'm on (plus
much, much more! but maybe you know that already).
As for the general user experience, be careful that SDD performance is
very erratic across models, which affects almost everything. See this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy8ZRoGbCxE if you like. My machine boots
in 25'' and is reasonably responsive anyway (file manager takes some
5-10'' to open up, but it's one of the slowest things; R loads
immediately; Emacs takes 5-10'' as well).

HTH
Giovanni

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On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:47:25AM +, herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to
 get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard
 disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel
 with respect to R.
 
 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if
 so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking
 gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?

I have R on my ASUS eeePC 1000H under Debian Linux and it works just
fine. In my opinion the most limiting thing is the small keyboard.
Everything else (RAM, Screen, CPU power) is what you would expect
given the specs: Not the platform of choice for large-scale number 
crunching or writing elaborate programs but certainly good enough to
do a little work on the train/plane/hotel/...

cu
Philipp

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Lehrstuhl f?r Genomorientierte Bioinformatik
Technische Universit?t M?nchen
Wissenschaftszentrum Weihenstephan
85350 Freising, Germany
http://mips.gsf.de/staff/pagel

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Erik Iverson
I've installed Ubuntu, Emacs, and R on my Samsung NC10 with 2 GB RAM.  I think 
the keyboard is very usable on the NC10, and it has about 5-7 hours of battery 
life, which is also nice.  R runs just fine on it.  I'd consider paying extra 
for the Samsung just for the keyboard.


herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Dear useRs,

With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to get one of 
these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What 
I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R.

Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is 
your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable 
platform to do some stats on?

Many thanks,

Bernd

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Michael A. Miller
 Jim == Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au writes:

 I've got R on my little EeePC as well. Great for most jobs
 and I highly recommend a DC/DC convertor for plugging into
 your car's cigarette lighter to get around the crap battery
 problem.

I run R on my Eee PC as well - no problems there.  At less than
$400 US and just barely larger than my copy of Venables and
Ripley, it has been real value.  Eee PC 1000HA, 5 hour battery
life (I've never used it long enough to run out of juice), 95%
sized keyboard (a bit cramped), dual 1.6GHz atom processors, 140
Gbyte drive, 1 Gbyte ram, R, emacs, IDL, TeX/LaTeX, cygwin,
python, openoffice, acrobat, msoffice.  Plus, with external
monitor, keyboard and mouse, it functions well as a full
workstation for me at home.

Mike

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread chaogai
I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will
work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are
in the habit of doing so.



herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Dear useRs,

 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to get one of 
 these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be 
 ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R.

 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is 
 your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable 
 platform to do some stats on?

 Many thanks,

 Bernd

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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread Liaw, Andy
From: Michael A. Miller
 Subject: Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?
 
  Jim == Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au writes:
 
  I've got R on my little EeePC as well. Great for most jobs
  and I highly recommend a DC/DC convertor for plugging into
  your car's cigarette lighter to get around the crap battery
  problem.
 
 I run R on my Eee PC as well - no problems there.  At less than
 $400 US and just barely larger than my copy of Venables and
 Ripley, it has been real value.  Eee PC 1000HA, 5 hour battery
 life (I've never used it long enough to run out of juice), 95%
 sized keyboard (a bit cramped), dual 1.6GHz atom processors, 140
 Gbyte drive, 1 Gbyte ram, R, emacs, IDL, TeX/LaTeX, cygwin,
 python, openoffice, acrobat, msoffice.  Plus, with external
 monitor, keyboard and mouse, it functions well as a full
 workstation for me at home.
 
 Mike

Are you sure that's dual atoms?  AFAIK it has a single Atom N270 (single
core) at 1.6GHz.  With hyper-threading, you may see two cpus.

My desktop at home has the Atom N330, the only dual-core Atom released
so far.  It's fine for day-to-day use, but my old Athlon64 3200 runs
faster.  I got the Atom for the low power (I keep it on 24/7).

Andy
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Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?

2009-03-05 Thread ronggui
May I ask what is the OS? Thanks.

2009/3/5 Erik Iverson iver...@biostat.wisc.edu:
 I've installed Ubuntu, Emacs, and R on my Samsung NC10 with 2 GB RAM.  I
 think the keyboard is very usable on the NC10, and it has about 5-7 hours of
 battery life, which is also nice.  R runs just fine on it.  I'd consider
 paying extra for the Samsung just for the keyboard.

 herrdittm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Dear useRs,

 With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops I am tempted to get one
 of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to
 be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R.

 Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what
 is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a
 feasable platform to do some stats on?

 Many thanks,

 Bernd

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