Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-10 Thread Martin Morgan

On 11/10/2013 03:54 AM, daniel schnaider wrote:

Thanks Martin. It worked well.
Two new questions related to the same subject.

1) Why create this semantic of a final argument name specifically names value?


I do not know. It is a requirement of replacement methods in R in general, not 
just S4 methods. See section 3.4.4 of RShowDoc(R-lang).



2) Regarding performance. When CustomerID(ac) - 54321 runs, does it only
change the slot from whatever it was to 54321, or it really create another
object and change all the value of all slots, keeping technically all the other
values equal and changing 54321?


Copying is tricky in R. It behaves as though a copy has been made of the entire 
object. Whether a copy is actually made, or just marked as necessary on 
subsequent modification, requires deep consideration of the code. This is the 
way R works, not just the way S4 classes work.


If instead of a single account you modelled 'Accounts', i.e., all accounts, then 
updating 1000 account id's would only make one copy, whereas if you model each 
account separately this would require 1000 copies.


Martin



thanks..


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Martin Morgan mtmor...@fhcrc.org
mailto:mtmor...@fhcrc.org wrote:

On 11/09/2013 06:31 AM, daniel schnaider wrote:

It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter 
fuction
to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable 
-
but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

# The code
  setClass (Account ,
 representation (
 customer_id = character,
 transactions = matrix)
  )


  Account - function(id, t) {
  new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
  }


  setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
id){standardGeneric(__CustomerID-)})


Replacement methods (in R in general) require that the final argument (the
replacement value) be named 'value', so

 setGeneric(CustomerID-,
 function(x, ..., value) standardGeneric(CustomerID))

 setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, c(Account, character),
 function(x, , value)
 {
 x@customer_id - value
 x
 })

use this as

CustomerID(ac) - 54321



  setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
  obj@customer_id - id
  obj
  })

  ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
  ac
  CustomerID - 54321
  ac

#Output
   ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36

# CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
   CustomerID - 54321


   ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36


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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-10 Thread Martin Morgan

On 11/09/2013 11:31 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:

Modelling a mutable entity, i.e. an account, is really a perfect
example of when to use reference classes.  You might find the examples
on http://adv-r.had.co.nz/OO-essentials.html give you a better feel
for the strengths and weaknesses of R's different OO systems.


Reference classes provide less memory copying and a more familiar programming 
paradigm but not necessarily fantastic performance, as illustrated here


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18677696/stack-class-in-r-something-more-concise/18678440#18678440

and I think elsewhere on this or the R-devel list (sorry not to be able to 
provide a more precise recollection).


Martin




Hadley

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM, daniel schnaider dschnai...@gmail.com wrote:

It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

# The code
 setClass (Account ,
representation (
customer_id = character,
transactions = matrix)
 )


 Account - function(id, t) {
 new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
 }


 setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})
 setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
 obj@customer_id - id
 obj
 })

 ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
 ac
 CustomerID - 54321
 ac

#Output
  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36

# CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
  CustomerID - 54321
  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36


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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-10 Thread daniel schnaider
Thanks Martin. It worked well.
Two new questions related to the same subject.

1) Why create this semantic of a final argument name specifically names
value?
2) Regarding performance. When CustomerID(ac) - 54321 runs, does it only
change the slot from whatever it was to 54321, or it really create another
object and change all the value of all slots, keeping technically all the
other values equal and changing 54321?

thanks..


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Martin Morgan mtmor...@fhcrc.org wrote:

 On 11/09/2013 06:31 AM, daniel schnaider wrote:

 It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
 to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

 I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
 but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

 Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

 # The code
  setClass (Account ,
 representation (
 customer_id = character,
 transactions = matrix)
  )


  Account - function(id, t) {
  new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
  }


  setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
 id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})


 Replacement methods (in R in general) require that the final argument (the
 replacement value) be named 'value', so

 setGeneric(CustomerID-,
 function(x, ..., value) standardGeneric(CustomerID))

 setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, c(Account, character),
 function(x, , value)
 {
 x@customer_id - value
 x
 })

 use this as

CustomerID(ac) - 54321



   setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
  obj@customer_id - id
  obj
  })

  ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
  ac
  CustomerID - 54321
  ac

 #Output
   ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36

 # CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
   CustomerID - 54321


ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36


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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-10 Thread daniel schnaider
It is excellent. thanks!


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Martin Morgan mtmor...@fhcrc.org wrote:

 On 11/09/2013 11:31 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:

 Modelling a mutable entity, i.e. an account, is really a perfect
 example of when to use reference classes.  You might find the examples
 on http://adv-r.had.co.nz/OO-essentials.html give you a better feel
 for the strengths and weaknesses of R's different OO systems.


 Reference classes provide less memory copying and a more familiar
 programming paradigm but not necessarily fantastic performance, as
 illustrated here

 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18677696/stack-
 class-in-r-something-more-concise/18678440#18678440

 and I think elsewhere on this or the R-devel list (sorry not to be able to
 provide a more precise recollection).

 Martin




 Hadley

 On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM, daniel schnaider dschnai...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter
 fuction
 to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

 I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
 but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

 Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

 # The code
  setClass (Account ,
 representation (
 customer_id = character,
 transactions = matrix)
  )


  Account - function(id, t) {
  new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
  }


  setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
 id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})
  setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
  obj@customer_id - id
  obj
  })

  ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
  ac
  CustomerID - 54321
  ac

 #Output
   ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36

 # CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
   CustomerID - 54321
   ac
  An object of class Account
  Slot customer_id:
  [1] 12345

  Slot transactions:
   [,1] [,2]
  [1,]14
  [2,]25
  [3,]36


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[R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-09 Thread daniel schnaider
It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

# The code
setClass (Account ,
   representation (
   customer_id = character,
   transactions = matrix)
)


Account - function(id, t) {
new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
}


setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})
setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
obj@customer_id - id
obj
})

ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
ac
CustomerID - 54321
ac

#Output
 ac
An object of class Account
Slot customer_id:
[1] 12345

Slot transactions:
 [,1] [,2]
[1,]14
[2,]25
[3,]36

# CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
 CustomerID - 54321
 ac
An object of class Account
Slot customer_id:
[1] 12345

Slot transactions:
 [,1] [,2]
[1,]14
[2,]25
[3,]36


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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-09 Thread Simon Zehnder
If you want to set a slot you have to refer to it:

ac@CustomerID - “54321” 

or you use your setter:

ac - CustomerID(ac, “54321”)

What you did was creating a new symbol CustomerID referring to the String 
“54321”
CustomerID - “54321”
CustomerID
[1] “54321”

Best

Simon

On 09 Nov 2013, at 15:31, daniel schnaider dschnai...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
 to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.
 
 I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
 but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.
 
 Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.
 
 # The code
setClass (Account ,
   representation (
   customer_id = character,
   transactions = matrix)
)
 
 
Account - function(id, t) {
new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
}
 
 
setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
 id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})
setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
obj@customer_id - id
obj
})
 
ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
ac
CustomerID - 54321
ac
 
 #Output
 ac
An object of class Account
Slot customer_id:
[1] 12345
 
Slot transactions:
 [,1] [,2]
[1,]14
[2,]25
[3,]36
 
 # CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
 CustomerID - 54321
 ac
An object of class Account
Slot customer_id:
[1] 12345
 
Slot transactions:
 [,1] [,2]
[1,]14
[2,]25
[3,]36
 
 
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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-09 Thread Martin Morgan

On 11/09/2013 06:31 AM, daniel schnaider wrote:

It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

# The code
 setClass (Account ,
representation (
customer_id = character,
transactions = matrix)
 )


 Account - function(id, t) {
 new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
 }


 setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})


Replacement methods (in R in general) require that the final argument (the 
replacement value) be named 'value', so


setGeneric(CustomerID-,
function(x, ..., value) standardGeneric(CustomerID))

setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, c(Account, character),
function(x, , value)
{
x@customer_id - value
x
})

use this as

   CustomerID(ac) - 54321



 setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
 obj@customer_id - id
 obj
 })

 ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
 ac
 CustomerID - 54321
 ac

#Output
  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36

# CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
  CustomerID - 54321



  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36


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Re: [R] S4; Setter function is not chaning slot value as expected

2013-11-09 Thread Hadley Wickham
Modelling a mutable entity, i.e. an account, is really a perfect
example of when to use reference classes.  You might find the examples
on http://adv-r.had.co.nz/OO-essentials.html give you a better feel
for the strengths and weaknesses of R's different OO systems.

Hadley

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM, daniel schnaider dschnai...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is my first time programming with S4 and I can't get the setter fuction
 to actually change the value of the slot created by the constructor.

 I guess it has to do with local copy, global copy, etc. of the variable -
 but, I could't find anything relevant in documentation.

 Tried to copy examples from the internet, but they had the same problem.

 # The code
 setClass (Account ,
representation (
customer_id = character,
transactions = matrix)
 )


 Account - function(id, t) {
 new(Account, customer_id = id, transactions = t)
 }


 setGeneric (CustomerID-, function(obj,
 id){standardGeneric(CustomerID-)})
 setReplaceMethod(CustomerID, Account, function(obj, id){
 obj@customer_id - id
 obj
 })

 ac - Account(12345, matrix(c(1,2,3,4,5,6), ncol=2))
 ac
 CustomerID - 54321
 ac

 #Output
  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36

 # CustomerID is value has changed to 54321, but as you can see it does't
  CustomerID - 54321
  ac
 An object of class Account
 Slot customer_id:
 [1] 12345

 Slot transactions:
  [,1] [,2]
 [1,]14
 [2,]25
 [3,]36


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