Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On 2/2/08, 宋时歌 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. Another text editor would be Bluefish. I believe it would lack functionality compared to the Emacs + ESS. Liviu __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On 01/02/2008 11:49 PM, 宋时歌 wrote: On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. This discussion may be relevant: http://xkcd.com/378/ Duncan Murdoch __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On Saturday 02 February 2008 04:06:38 am Wade Wall wrote: WW I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if WW anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works WW well with R. Beside the aforementioned emacs+ESS there exists another good editor. You could use rkward which I would recommend over emacs if you are new to Linux: http://rkward.sourceforge.net/ Fedora and Ubuntu both have rkward packaged in their repositories. rkward look and feel is much closer to tinn-r (+ windows) world. rkward has (in my opinion): - a better highlightning, - multiple tabs, - it has auto-completition (of functions and objects), - copy paste works also with ctrl+c/ctrl+v (in emacs its different), - some common functions are offered via the menu's (for the non-purists), - html help is supported. - it allows editing data in a spreadsheet like environment - you can browse R objects (to avoid flaming: I know most of this is possible with emacs but maybe we agree that it is for a beginner not that easy to learn/configure) I was quite impressed of the advances rkward made during the last time so I switched 2 weeks ago from emacs to rkward... Cheers Stefan __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
After to much windows contamination, my brain does not do the cryptic part of Emacs+ESS C-x M-c M-headache. Eclipse is is currently my choice. (But the installation instructions could be better) Kees On Saturday 02 February 2008 05:49:10 am 宋时歌 wrote: On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. Shige On Feb 2, 2008 11:06 AM, Wade Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
Le sam. 02 févr. à 05:49, 宋时歌 a écrit : On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. To me, an added bonus of Emacs + ESS is that you can remove the On Linux platform, above. Emacs is one of the very few (only?) programmer's text editor with a good R mode that runs on all platforms where R runs: Unix/Linux, Windows (http://vgoulet.act.ulaval.ca/emacs) and MacOS (http://aquamacs.org). On whatever platform I need to work, I can use the same tools. Furthermore, M-w and C-y are the *correct* keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste! :-D See also Section 6 of the R FAQ: http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-and-Emacs Wade, when you write: I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R, you didn't look very hard, now did you? ;-) HTH Vincent Shige On Feb 2, 2008 11:06 AM, Wade Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. --- Vincent Goulet, Associate Professor École d'actuariat Université Laval, Québec [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vgoulet.act.ulaval.ca __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
I am in a similar situation and found that Kate combined with Konsole operates very much like Tinn-R. I actually use Kate for all interpreters like Python, R, and Octave under linux. Tom Wade Wall wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/best-text-editor-for-Linux--tp15239201p15242799.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
Stefan Grosse wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2008 04:06:38 am Wade Wall wrote: WW I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if WW anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works WW well with R. Beside the aforementioned emacs+ESS there exists another good editor. You could use rkward which I would recommend over emacs if you are new to Linux: http://rkward.sourceforge.net/ Fedora and Ubuntu both have rkward packaged in their repositories. I have tried installing rkward on three different ubuntu systems and have never gotten past this error: rkward /usr/bin/rkward.bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/rkward.bin: undefined symbol: R_LastvalueSymbol Frank Harrell rkward look and feel is much closer to tinn-r (+ windows) world. rkward has (in my opinion): - a better highlightning, - multiple tabs, - it has auto-completition (of functions and objects), - copy paste works also with ctrl+c/ctrl+v (in emacs its different), - some common functions are offered via the menu's (for the non-purists), - html help is supported. - it allows editing data in a spreadsheet like environment - you can browse R objects (to avoid flaming: I know most of this is possible with emacs but maybe we agree that it is for a beginner not that easy to learn/configure) I was quite impressed of the advances rkward made during the last time so I switched 2 weeks ago from emacs to rkward... Cheers Stefan __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On Saturday 02 February 2008 03:21:24 pm Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: FE I have tried installing rkward on three different ubuntu systems and FE have never gotten past this error: FE FE rkward FE /usr/bin/rkward.bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/rkward.bin: undefined FE symbol: R_LastvalueSymbol Hm. I am on fedora 8 and the installation was flawless. My last ubuntu trial was quite some time ago. Have you tried the deb files from the projects downloads? https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50231 (try 0.4.9) Stefan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On Saturday 02 February 2008 07:51:00 pm you wrote: FE I'm using the standard Ubuntu debian repositories. FE Frank FE Try the 0.4.9 etch package from the project: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50231package_id=43758release_id=568604 for gutsy the latest package is 0.4.7 which is rather old. In 0.4.8 was following fixed: fixed: would not work with R 2.6 (maybe that is the problem) That is what I do not like about ubuntu, they do not make version updates even when some big problems are solved by the updates. alternatively you could use the hardy (next ubuntu version) repository either via synaptic or the package (for the 0.4.9 package): http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/math/rkward download and then double click should be enough... Hope that helps Stefan __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On 2 February 2008 at 20:15, Stefan Grosse wrote: | On Saturday 02 February 2008 07:51:00 pm you wrote: | FE I'm using the standard Ubuntu debian repositories. | FE Frank | FE | | Try the 0.4.9 etch package from the project: | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50231package_id=43758release_id=568604 | | for gutsy the latest package is 0.4.7 which is rather old. In 0.4.8 was | following fixed: | | fixed: would not work with R 2.6 (maybe that is the problem) | | That is what I do not like about ubuntu, they do not make version updates even | when some big problems are solved by the updates. I suspect you misunderstand their promise of stability in-between bi-annual release. It's a compromise. If you need current updates, use Debian unstable, or testing. As a middle ground, I like Ubuntu and use it at work. A similar question came up on the Open MPI users list this week and I wrote this (indented three spaces here): On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:13:28AM -0500, Sang Chul Choi wrote: I am wondering which version of open mpi I should install. I am using the latest version of Ubuntu. Is debian package 1.1-2.5 the relatively latest version of open mpi? No -- and a simple way of getting selected packages from Debian up-to-date on Ubuntu is to a) add a deb-src entry to /etc/apt/sources.list that points to Debian unstable (or testing) b) apt-get update apt-get source $packageYouWant c) make the changes you need to make, it any d) rebuild, eg via 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -tc -rfakeroot' which is what I do on the Ubuntu machines at work. Steps b) to d) can be combined by adding --compile to the apt-get source invocation, but I like to at least mark the local build in the changelog / version number. Hope this helps, Dirk (one of the Debian Open MPI maintainers) Your approach of picking from the Ubuntu release is of course also valid. I happy to be more familiar with Debian, so I go there for things that I may miss in Ubuntu. And generally speaking, it is not that many things. Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
Stefan Grosse wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2008 07:51:00 pm you wrote: FE I'm using the standard Ubuntu debian repositories. FE Frank FE Try the 0.4.9 etch package from the project: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50231package_id=43758release_id=568604 That requires R before or at 2.4.9 for gutsy the latest package is 0.4.7 which is rather old. In 0.4.8 was following fixed: fixed: would not work with R 2.6 (maybe that is the problem) That is what I do not like about ubuntu, they do not make version updates even when some big problems are solved by the updates. That has not been a problem for me. alternatively you could use the hardy (next ubuntu version) repository either via synaptic or the package (for the 0.4.9 package): http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/math/rkward The hardy release has major dependency problems for gutsy users. So there is no version of rkward that is made for Ubuntu gutsy for users with current versions or R. Thanks for trying though Frank download and then double click should be enough... Hope that helps Stefan -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
Two small points for this discussion. Emacs + ESS is brilliant, but it does require some investment of time for people to become comfortable with it. You really need to grok Emacs first. It is protable across platforms, as pointed out below, but if you are trying to get a neophyte class on side in quick time, it is not a viable option. A little bird tells me that a Linux port of Tinn-R is being developed now. In the longer term, this would give a great portable solution, but I have no information on progress or anticipated release date. (And no, I won't say who is doing it...) Anyway, just as real programmers use Linux, real neophytes use Windows, don't they? Bill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Goulet Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 11:00 PM To: 宋时歌 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wade Wall Subject: Re: [R] best text editor for Linux? Le sam. 02 févr. à 05:49, 宋时歌 a écrit : On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. To me, an added bonus of Emacs + ESS is that you can remove the On Linux platform, above. Emacs is one of the very few (only?) programmer's text editor with a good R mode that runs on all platforms where R runs: Unix/Linux, Windows (http://vgoulet.act.ulaval.ca/emacs) and MacOS (http://aquamacs.org). On whatever platform I need to work, I can use the same tools. Furthermore, M-w and C-y are the *correct* keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste! :-D See also Section 6 of the R FAQ: http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-and-Emacs Wade, when you write: I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R, you didn't look very hard, now did you? ;-) HTH Vincent Shige On Feb 2, 2008 11:06 AM, Wade Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. --- Vincent Goulet, Associate Professor École d'actuariat Université Laval, Québec [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vgoulet.act.ulaval.ca __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
[R] best text editor for Linux?
Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
Wade, I switched from R-Windows to R-Linux about 9 months ago and have had great success with GNU-Emacs with the ESS add-on. Your distro should have Emacs available for install, if it does not you can get the source at: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/ ESS can be found at: http://ess.r-project.org/ There is a special help-list for ESS at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Luck, Mark Mark W. Kimpel MD ** Neuroinformatics ** Dept. of Psychiatry Indiana University School of Medicine 15032 Hunter Court, Westfield, IN 46074 (317) 490-5129 Work, Mobile VoiceMail (317) 204-4202 Home (no voice mail please) mwkimpelatgmaildotcom ** Wade Wall wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] best text editor for Linux?
On Linux platform, nothing beats Emacs + ESS. Shige On Feb 2, 2008 11:06 AM, Wade Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know this question has been asked in the past, but I am wondering if anyone running R on Linux has any guidance as to a text editor that works well with R. At the present time I am running R on Windows and using TINN-R. For a number of reasons I want to switch to Linux, but can't find much in the way of a text editor in sync with R. Any experiences, recommendations would be appreciated. Wade Wall [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
