Re: [R] Fortune candidate

2018-01-29 Thread Robert Baer 

On 1/27/2018 12:16 PM, David Winsemius wrote:

John (to a serial querulant):

 ...but with such a sweeping lack of
information from you, don't congratulate yourself if you get a helpful
answer.  It wasn't your fault.


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Second that nomination!



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Re: [R] Fortune candidate

2018-01-27 Thread Rich Shepard 

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, David Winsemius wrote:


John (to a serial querulant):

   ...but with such a sweeping lack of information from you, don't 
congratulate yourself if you get a helpful answer. It wasn't your fault.


  Looks like what H.L. Menken or P.G. Wodehouse would have written.

Rich

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[R] Fortune candidate

2018-01-27 Thread David Winsemius 
John (to a serial querulant):  

...but with such a sweeping lack of
information from you, don't congratulate yourself if you get a helpful
answer.  It wasn't your fault.


David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA

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Re: [R] fortune candidate

2017-12-17 Thread Achim Zeileis 

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, J C Nash wrote:


From Dirk E. on the R-devel list


Many things a developer / power-user would do are very difficult on
Windows. It is one of the charms of the platform. On the other hand you do
get a few solitaire games so I guess everybody is happy.


Thanks, added to the devel version of "fortunes" on R-Forge.
Z



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[R] fortune candidate

2017-12-17 Thread J C Nash 
>From Dirk E. on the R-devel list

> Many things a developer / power-user would do are very difficult on
> Windows. It is one of the charms of the platform. On the other hand you do
> get a few solitaire games so I guess everybody is happy.


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Re: [R] Fortune candidate: Re: Whether statistical background is must to learn R language

2016-05-31 Thread Achim Zeileis 

Thanks, Sarah, added now in the devel-package on R-Forge.
Z

On Tue, 31 May 2016, Sarah Goslee wrote:


On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Jeff Newmiller
 wrote:



However, please don't apply R like a magic answers box, because you can mislead 
others and cause harm.


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[R] Fortune candidate: Re: Whether statistical background is must to learn R language

2016-05-31 Thread Sarah Goslee 
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Jeff Newmiller
 wrote:
>
>
> However, please don't apply R like a magic answers box, because you can 
> mislead others and cause harm.

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Re: [R] Fortune candidate, was Re: Shaded areas in R

2016-05-26 Thread Achim Zeileis 

On Thu, 26 May 2016, Michael Dewey wrote:


In a reply Duncan said


Nice, thanks, added to the "fortunes" package on R-Forge now.
Best,
Z


On 26/05/2016 16:12, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

On 26/05/2016 11:03 AM, Óscar Jiménez wrote:

You should try things; R won't break.







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[R] Fortune candidate, was Re: Shaded areas in R

2016-05-26 Thread Michael Dewey 

In a reply Duncan said

On 26/05/2016 16:12, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

On 26/05/2016 11:03 AM, Óscar Jiménez wrote:

You should try things; R won't break.







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[R] Fortune candidate! Re: Why can't R understand if(num!=NA)?

2013-05-03 Thread Sarah Goslee 
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Winsemius dwinsem...@comcast.net wrote:

 On May 3, 2013, at 17:24 , jpm miao wrote:

 I have a program, when I write

 if(num!=NA)

 snipped

 On May 3, 2013, at 10:46 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:

 Because comparison with an unknown value yields an unknown result.

 Anything else would violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics. We cannot have 
 comparisons reducing entropy, now can we? Uncertainty cannot run uphill.

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Re: [R] Fortune candidate! Re: new to R Project

2010-02-23 Thread Petr PIKAL 
Hi

r-help-boun...@r-project.org napsal dne 23.02.2010 05:50:25:

I have a concern with the sentiment expressed:  When one is new 
 to a language, it is often not easy to know where to start in the 
 available documentation.  It's hard to RTFM when one does not know which 

 FM2R.
 
 
I currently subscribe to email help for three other open source 
 collaborative projects.  This started with a problem I have not been 
 able to solve.  I reviewed options I could find, including posting a 
 question to R-help.  After careful study, I selected one alternative and 

 tried it.  When I hit a roadblock with that, I tried another.  When that 

 failed, I tried their help mailing lists.  So far, I have installed 
 three different software packages and gotten them to do simple things. 
 My current status reflects the famous line from Thomas Edison:  I know 
 several things that don't work.  I've been forced to postpone further 
 work on that project indefinitely.
 
 
Was the question obvious?  The post included, my goal is using R 

 i have to connect to the database and i have to generate reports.  We 
 can quibble with the lack of clarity in the prose;  for many people in 
 Germany (the poster had a German email address), English is a second 
 language.  (Gott sei dank dass ich nicht so oft meine Fragen auf Deutsch 

 stellen muss.)
 
 
It looks to me like the questioner wants to access a standard 
 database system like MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle.  As far as I know, 
 that's not trivial.  Moreover, it's not easy even to find relevant 
 documentation.  S-Plus and more recently R have been part of my life not 


I agree that it is not always straightforward and simple to find relevant 
piece of information. R grew to powerful complex piece of software used in 
quite remote application areas. 

Paper dragons use similar approaches as airplanes to fly but airplanes 
would need thorough study to learn how to operate them. I am not sure if 
the OP is willing to do it.
 
From other questions of OP it seems to me that it is a variation to

fortune(brain)

Regards
Petr

 quite every day for the past seventeen years.  For most of that period, 
 I avoided databases, because I believed the learning curve would be 
 steep, and it seemed like one more thing that could distract me from the 

 most important things I had to do.  Not quite a year ago, I had to work 
 with a database system.  I learned to use RBloomberg, RODBC, etc., 
 enough to do what seemed to be required.  However, at least for me, it 
 was not easy to decide where to start.
 
 
Best Wishes,
Spencer Graves
 
 
 On 2/22/2010 5:25 AM, Detlef Steuer wrote:
  One vote goes to Dave's answer!
 
  You made (saved) my day
  detlef
 
 
  On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:23 +
  Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net  wrote:
 
  
  chinna wrote:
  
  hi everyone,
  i am new to R project can anyone please help me by providing 
documents
 
  my goal is using R i have to connect to the database and i have to 
generate
  reports.
 
  Thanks in advance
  chinna.
  
  R is a complex program. If you can't work out how to find the 
documentation, I
  doubt you will be able to use R.
 
  Dave
 
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Re: [R] Fortune candidate! Re: new to R Project

2010-02-23 Thread spencerg 

On 2/23/2010 5:07 AM, Cedrick Johnson wrote:

library(rant)
   
I'm sorry:  I'm not familiar with the rant package.  I couldn't find 
it on CRAN.

I recall just over a year ago (Fall08) when I was new to the R
language. I realize there's a steep curve in any language, especially
with R and the multitudes of packages that exist.

With that being said, I still took (still do) time out to read the
manuals, the vignettes and perform some cursory research on what it is
I am trying to accomplish before posting. 99.999% of the time I have
found what I am looking for (and learned something else new along the
way).

It sounds to me (and I may be incorrect in my initial impression,
correct me if I am wrong) that the OP has not the slightest idea of
what he/she wants to do with the 'data' once it is there. I have over
the course of my personal journey with R come to appreciate the
posting guides of the various R lists. I also have a full appreciation
for the vignettes and other associated documentation that has been
assembled (my primary domain is in the fin/econometrics *with a dash
of forecasting* packages) -- I am sure pkg maintainers aren't putting
these together for their sanity.

A little research and understanding what you are trying to accomplish
will go a long way.
   
Agreed.  In this case, the original poster submitted virtually the same 
question again with a different Subject.  That thread made it clear that 
s/he wanted to connect from R to a database and generate reports.  S/he 
somehow accessed the database but still had trouble generating reports 
and questions that could be easily understood on this list.

End coffee deficient morning rant
-c

On 2/23/10, Petr PIKALpetr.pi...@precheza.cz  wrote:
   

Hi

r-help-boun...@r-project.org napsal dne 23.02.2010 05:50:25:

 

I have a concern with the sentiment expressed:  When one is new
to a language, it is often not easy to know where to start in the
available documentation.  It's hard to RTFM when one does not know which
   
 

FM2R.


I currently subscribe to email help for three other open source
collaborative projects.  This started with a problem I have not been
able to solve.  I reviewed options I could find, including posting a
question to R-help.  After careful study, I selected one alternative and
   
 

tried it.  When I hit a roadblock with that, I tried another.  When that
   
 

failed, I tried their help mailing lists.  So far, I have installed
three different software packages and gotten them to do simple things.
My current status reflects the famous line from Thomas Edison:  I know
several things that don't work.  I've been forced to postpone further
work on that project indefinitely.


Was the question obvious?  The post included, my goal is using R
   
 

i have to connect to the database and i have to generate reports.  We
can quibble with the lack of clarity in the prose;  for many people in
Germany (the poster had a German email address), English is a second
language.  (Gott sei dank dass ich nicht so oft meine Fragen auf Deutsch
   
 

stellen muss.)


It looks to me like the questioner wants to access a standard
database system like MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle.  As far as I know,
that's not trivial.  Moreover, it's not easy even to find relevant
documentation.  S-Plus and more recently R have been part of my life not
   


I agree that it is not always straightforward and simple to find relevant
piece of information. R grew to powerful complex piece of software used in
quite remote application areas.

Paper dragons use similar approaches as airplanes to fly but airplanes
would need thorough study to learn how to operate them. I am not sure if
the OP is willing to do it.

 From other questions of OP it seems to me that it is a variation to

fortune(brain)

Regards
Petr

 

quite every day for the past seventeen years.  For most of that period,
I avoided databases, because I believed the learning curve would be
steep, and it seemed like one more thing that could distract me from the
   
 

most important things I had to do.  Not quite a year ago, I had to work
with a database system.  I learned to use RBloomberg, RODBC, etc.,
enough to do what seemed to be required.  However, at least for me, it
was not easy to decide where to start.


Best Wishes,
Spencer Graves


On 2/22/2010 5:25 AM, Detlef Steuer wrote:
   

One vote goes to Dave's answer!

You made (saved) my day
detlef


On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:23 +
Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net   wrote:


 

chinna wrote:

   

hi everyone,
i am new to R project can anyone please help me by providing
 

documents
 

my goal is using R i have to connect to the database and i have to
 

generate
 

reports.

Thanks in advance
chinna.

 

R is a complex program. If you can't work out how to find the

[R] Fortune candidate! Re: new to R Project

2010-02-22 Thread Detlef Steuer 
One vote goes to Dave's answer!

You made (saved) my day
detlef


On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:23 +
Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:

 chinna wrote:
  hi everyone,
  i am new to R project can anyone please help me by providing documents
  
  my goal is using R i have to connect to the database and i have to generate
  reports.
  
  Thanks in advance
  chinna.
 
 R is a complex program. If you can't work out how to find the documentation, 
 I 
 doubt you will be able to use R.
 
 Dave
 
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Re: [R] Fortune candidate! Re: new to R Project

2010-02-22 Thread Achim Zeileis 

Thanks for the pointer, Detlef, added to the devel-version on R-Forge.
Z

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Detlef Steuer wrote:


One vote goes to Dave's answer!

You made (saved) my day
detlef


On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:23 +
Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:


chinna wrote:

hi everyone,
i am new to R project can anyone please help me by providing documents

my goal is using R i have to connect to the database and i have to generate
reports.

Thanks in advance
chinna.


R is a complex program. If you can't work out how to find the documentation, I
doubt you will be able to use R.

Dave

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Re: [R] Fortune candidate! Re: new to R Project

2010-02-22 Thread spencerg 
  I have a concern with the sentiment expressed:  When one is new 
to a language, it is often not easy to know where to start in the 
available documentation.  It's hard to RTFM when one does not know which 
FM2R.



  I currently subscribe to email help for three other open source 
collaborative projects.  This started with a problem I have not been 
able to solve.  I reviewed options I could find, including posting a 
question to R-help.  After careful study, I selected one alternative and 
tried it.  When I hit a roadblock with that, I tried another.  When that 
failed, I tried their help mailing lists.  So far, I have installed 
three different software packages and gotten them to do simple things.  
My current status reflects the famous line from Thomas Edison:  I know 
several things that don't work.  I've been forced to postpone further 
work on that project indefinitely.



  Was the question obvious?  The post included, my goal is using R 
i have to connect to the database and i have to generate reports.  We 
can quibble with the lack of clarity in the prose;  for many people in 
Germany (the poster had a German email address), English is a second 
language.  (Gott sei dank dass ich nicht so oft meine Fragen auf Deutsch 
stellen muss.)



  It looks to me like the questioner wants to access a standard 
database system like MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle.  As far as I know, 
that's not trivial.  Moreover, it's not easy even to find relevant 
documentation.  S-Plus and more recently R have been part of my life not 
quite every day for the past seventeen years.  For most of that period, 
I avoided databases, because I believed the learning curve would be 
steep, and it seemed like one more thing that could distract me from the 
most important things I had to do.  Not quite a year ago, I had to work 
with a database system.  I learned to use RBloomberg, RODBC, etc., 
enough to do what seemed to be required.  However, at least for me, it 
was not easy to decide where to start.



  Best Wishes,
  Spencer Graves


On 2/22/2010 5:25 AM, Detlef Steuer wrote:

One vote goes to Dave's answer!

You made (saved) my day
detlef


On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:23 +
Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net  wrote:

   

chinna wrote:
 

hi everyone,
i am new to R project can anyone please help me by providing documents

my goal is using R i have to connect to the database and i have to generate
reports.

Thanks in advance
chinna.
   

R is a complex program. If you can't work out how to find the documentation, I
doubt you will be able to use R.

Dave

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