Re: [R] simple linear regression with proportion data

2012-11-19 Thread S Ellison
 

 -Original Message-
  Can I use simple linear regression when I have proportion data for 
  both dependent and independent variables?  Or, should I use beta 
  regression analysis?  Or any suggestion?
  
 
   The distribution of the independent variable is irrelevant 
 (in some circumstances it matters whether it is measured 
 without error or not).

Agreed that if you just want a line that goes somewhere near the data you can 
do pretty much anything.
But don't those circumstances you referred to include 'any time you want an 
unbiased estimate of the slope or a reliable standard error on coefficients'?

S

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Re: [R] simple linear regression with proportion data

2012-11-19 Thread Ben Bolker
On 12-11-19 10:18 AM, S Ellison wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 Can I use simple linear regression when I have proportion data
 for both dependent and independent variables?  Or, should I use
 beta regression analysis?  Or any suggestion?
 
 
 The distribution of the independent variable is irrelevant (in some
 circumstances it matters whether it is measured without error or
 not).

 Agreed that if you just want a line that goes somewhere near the data
 you can do pretty much anything. But don't those circumstances you
 referred to include 'any time you want an unbiased estimate of the
 slope or a reliable standard error on coefficients'?

  Did you see that I wrote distribution of the **independent**
variable above?

  Ben

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[R] simple linear regression with proportion data

2012-11-16 Thread SH
Dear list:

Can I use simple linear regression when I have proportion data for
both dependent and independent variables?  Or, should I use beta
regression analysis?  Or any suggestion?

Thanks!

SH

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Re: [R] simple linear regression with proportion data

2012-11-16 Thread Ben Bolker
SH emptican at gmail.com writes:

 
 Dear list:
 
 Can I use simple linear regression when I have proportion data for
 both dependent and independent variables?  Or, should I use beta
 regression analysis?  Or any suggestion?
 

  The distribution of the independent variable is irrelevant (in
some circumstances it matters whether it is measured without error or not).

  Depending on what you want to do, and how close the proportion data
come to 0 or 1, you might choose to use linear regression, or linear regression
on arcsine-square-root transformed data, or beta regression.  It really
depends what you want to do with the answers and what your audience expects. 
You might try this on http://stats.stackexchange.com with a bit more context.

   Ben Bolker

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Re: [R] simple linear regression with proportion data

2012-11-16 Thread SH
Very useful comment and helpful website!  Many thanks to you!!!

SH

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Ben Bolker bbol...@gmail.com wrote:
 SH emptican at gmail.com writes:


 Dear list:

 Can I use simple linear regression when I have proportion data for
 both dependent and independent variables?  Or, should I use beta
 regression analysis?  Or any suggestion?


   The distribution of the independent variable is irrelevant (in
 some circumstances it matters whether it is measured without error or not).

   Depending on what you want to do, and how close the proportion data
 come to 0 or 1, you might choose to use linear regression, or linear 
 regression
 on arcsine-square-root transformed data, or beta regression.  It really
 depends what you want to do with the answers and what your audience expects.
 You might try this on http://stats.stackexchange.com with a bit more context.

Ben Bolker

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