Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Spencer Graves]

On 2017-06-28 11:36 AM, Suzen, Mehmet wrote:

Hello Chris,

I was implying you are capable enough to implement it, while you have
already identify a research paper. If there is no package out there,
uploading to CRAN would help future user too. I am more than happy to
help if you want to implement from scratch.



  sos::findFn("nash equilibrium") identified 4 packages: antitrust, 
GNE, GPGame, and nopp.  I found GNE mentioned earlier in this thread but 
not the other three.  Similar searches for "nash equilibrium networ" and 
"nash equilibrium networks" returned no matches.



  By the way, one of the sessions at useR!2017 in Brussels next 
week will discuss "Navigating the R package universe".  This will 
provide a brief overview of tools currently available, followed by a 
general discussion of what people would want in tools to make it easier 
to find and use what you want in contributed packages, now well over 
10,000.  The planned discussion will briefly cover the "sos" package, 
"RDocumentation.org", METACRAN (www.r-pkg.org), "Task views", and other 
tools.



  We're hoping that this session will facilitate the development of 
one or more teams to collaborate on the following:



* Creating common interfaces for different approaches to 
essentially the same problem, like "optimx".



* Improving "Task views".


* Improving search capabilities.


  If you can make it to useR!2017, we hope to see you in this 
session, Wed. July 5, from 17:00 - 18:30 in the main meeting room. If 
you might like to help with this but can't make Brussels, please stay 
tuned for further announcements or contact me after the conference for 
further information.



  Spencer Graves


p.s.  Please excuse if I highjacked this thread to promote this session, 
but I didn't see any mention of the sos package or RDocumentation.org, 
so it seemed appropriate.



Best,
Mehmet

On 27 June 2017 at 17:45, Chris Buddenhagen  wrote:

Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game theory/Nash
equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like igraph/statnet
or similar?

Perhaps along the lines of this article:

Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local Nash
Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.

Best,
Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Suzen, Mehmet]

Hello Chris,

I was implying you are capable enough to implement it, while you have
already identify a research paper. If there is no package out there,
uploading to CRAN would help future user too. I am more than happy to
help if you want to implement from scratch.

Best,
Mehmet

On 27 June 2017 at 17:45, Chris Buddenhagen  wrote:
> Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game theory/Nash
> equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like igraph/statnet
> or similar?
>
> Perhaps along the lines of this article:
>
> Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local Nash
> Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
>
> Best,
> Chris Buddenhagen
> cbuddenha...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Rui Barradas]

Hello,

So you misunderstood me. I didn't suggest that you should google it, 
what I did was to say that it's what I've done. And found a package. Bad 
luck if that package doesn't do what you want. Hope you find one.


Rui Barradas

Em 28-06-2017 10:53, Chris Buddenhagen escreveu:

Thanks I too wondered about the tone. The first suggestion was that I
should "google it" and the second, write my own code. I think if I did I'd
be reinventing the wheel, (and it'd be a big challenge for me). Also, I
have been searching and not found such code, despite evidence that it has
been coded (just not sure if it was in R). BTW I did write to authors of
the article I cited, but no reply.

Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Boris Steipe 
wrote:


I responded to the unhelpful suggestion "Why don't you implement and uplad
the package to CRAN?" No  mention of a search engine. Is this what you are
commenting on Jeff?






On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Jeff Newmiller 

wrote:


In what way does reminding people that packages exist because others

just like them contributed something count as being uncivil? Terse,
perhaps, since it bypassed the obvious suggestion to use a search engine,
but not rude.

--
Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.

On June 28, 2017 5:08:16 AM EDT, Boris Steipe 

wrote:

I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.

Civility!





On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet 

wrote:


Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?

On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen" 

wrote:


Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game

theory/Nash

equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like

igraph/statnet

or similar?

Perhaps along the lines of this article:

Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local

Nash

Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.

Best,
Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Spencer Graves]

On 2017-06-28 5:40 AM, Jeff Newmiller wrote:

Showing your work so that someone else can either see something you missed or 
share in the joy when a rare answer comes through is what elevates such a 
posting from spam to shared research.


A "fortune"?


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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Jeff Newmiller]

There are many possible responses to the question "Is there a package to do X." 
Some that I can imagine are:

* Yes, see package Y...
* No, I am familiar with all 1 packages and there isn't...
* Silence (because no one who is paying attention is familiar with the one that 
exists)
* Use a search engine...
* You are a jerk because you did not use a search engine
* Packages exist because people like you did not find what they were looking for

My point was that response 5 would have been uncivil, but 6 was a valid 
reminder and Mehmet was just being brief, not rude.

The first does happen, but it is more common that if the question sounds 
interesting that this question triggers list members to search for themselves. 
If the OP tells us that they did this already and package Y (that appears as 
soon as we do this) is unsuitable for some specific reason, then we all nod and 
agree that the search engine wasn't up to the task and watch with the OP in 
case someone does respond with an answer. But when the OP does not do that we 
get frustrated that yet again we are being treated like a search engine by 
someone who does not do their homework, since we don't know why they regarded 
the first search result as unsuitable. 

Keep in mind that broadcasting to many uninterested parties when the pool of 
targeted individuals (in this case,  people who have the answer readily 
available) is very very small is an activity most people call "spam". Showing 
your work so that someone else can either see something you missed or share in 
the joy when a rare answer comes through is what elevates such a posting from 
spam to shared research. 
-- 
Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.

On June 28, 2017 5:44:31 AM EDT, Boris Steipe  wrote:
>I responded to the unhelpful suggestion "Why don't you implement and
>uplad the package to CRAN?" No  mention of a search engine. Is this
>what you are commenting on Jeff?
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Jeff Newmiller
> wrote:
>> 
>> In what way does reminding people that packages exist because others
>just like them contributed something count as being uncivil? Terse,
>perhaps, since it bypassed the obvious suggestion to use a search
>engine, but not rude.
>> -- 
>> Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.
>> 
>> On June 28, 2017 5:08:16 AM EDT, Boris Steipe
> wrote:
>>> I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.
>>> 
>>> Civility!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet 
>>> wrote:
 
 Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?
 
 On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen" 
>>> wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game
>>> theory/Nash
 equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like
>>> igraph/statnet
 or similar?
 
 Perhaps along the lines of this article:
 
 Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014).
>Local
>>> Nash
 Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
 
 Best,
 Chris Buddenhagen
 cbuddenha...@gmail.com
 
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Chris Buddenhagen]

Thanks I too wondered about the tone. The first suggestion was that I
should "google it" and the second, write my own code. I think if I did I'd
be reinventing the wheel, (and it'd be a big challenge for me). Also, I
have been searching and not found such code, despite evidence that it has
been coded (just not sure if it was in R). BTW I did write to authors of
the article I cited, but no reply.

Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Boris Steipe 
wrote:

> I responded to the unhelpful suggestion "Why don't you implement and uplad
> the package to CRAN?" No  mention of a search engine. Is this what you are
> commenting on Jeff?
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Jeff Newmiller 
> wrote:
> >
> > In what way does reminding people that packages exist because others
> just like them contributed something count as being uncivil? Terse,
> perhaps, since it bypassed the obvious suggestion to use a search engine,
> but not rude.
> > --
> > Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.
> >
> > On June 28, 2017 5:08:16 AM EDT, Boris Steipe 
> wrote:
> >> I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.
> >>
> >> Civility!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?
> >>>
> >>> On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen" 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game
> >> theory/Nash
> >>> equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like
> >> igraph/statnet
> >>> or similar?
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps along the lines of this article:
> >>>
> >>> Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local
> >> Nash
> >>> Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Chris Buddenhagen
> >>> cbuddenha...@gmail.com
> >>>
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Boris Steipe]

I responded to the unhelpful suggestion "Why don't you implement and uplad the 
package to CRAN?" No  mention of a search engine. Is this what you are 
commenting on Jeff?





> On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Jeff Newmiller  wrote:
> 
> In what way does reminding people that packages exist because others just 
> like them contributed something count as being uncivil? Terse, perhaps, since 
> it bypassed the obvious suggestion to use a search engine, but not rude.
> -- 
> Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.
> 
> On June 28, 2017 5:08:16 AM EDT, Boris Steipe  
> wrote:
>> I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.
>> 
>> Civility!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?
>>> 
>>> On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen" 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game
>> theory/Nash
>>> equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like
>> igraph/statnet
>>> or similar?
>>> 
>>> Perhaps along the lines of this article:
>>> 
>>> Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local
>> Nash
>>> Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Chris Buddenhagen
>>> cbuddenha...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Jeff Newmiller]

In what way does reminding people that packages exist because others just like 
them contributed something count as being uncivil? Terse, perhaps, since it 
bypassed the obvious suggestion to use a search engine, but not rude.
-- 
Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.

On June 28, 2017 5:08:16 AM EDT, Boris Steipe  wrote:
>I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.
>
>Civility!
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?
>> 
>> On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen" 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game
>theory/Nash
>> equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like
>igraph/statnet
>> or similar?
>> 
>> Perhaps along the lines of this article:
>> 
>> Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local
>Nash
>> Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Chris Buddenhagen
>> cbuddenha...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Boris Steipe]

I don't think OP asked an unreasonable question at all.

Civility!




> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Suzen, Mehmet  wrote:
> 
> Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?
> 
> On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen"  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game theory/Nash
> equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like igraph/statnet
> or similar?
> 
> Perhaps along the lines of this article:
> 
> Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local Nash
> Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.
> 
> Best,
> Chris Buddenhagen
> cbuddenha...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Suzen, Mehmet]

Why don't you implement and uplad the package to CRAN?

On 27 Jun 2017 17:45, "Chris Buddenhagen"  wrote:

Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game theory/Nash
equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like igraph/statnet
or similar?

Perhaps along the lines of this article:

Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local Nash
Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.

Best,
Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

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Re: [R] Nash equilibrium and other game theory tools implemented in networks using igraph or similar

[Rui Barradas]

Hello,

A Google search for "R package Local Nash Equilibrium"
got

https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/GNE/GNE.pdf

as the first hit.

Hope this helps,

Rui Barradas

Em 27-06-2017 16:45, Chris Buddenhagen escreveu:

Does anyone know of some code, and examples that implement game theory/Nash
equilibrium hypothesis testing using existing packages like igraph/statnet
or similar?

Perhaps along the lines of this article:

Zhang, Y., Aziz-Alaoui, M. A., Bertelle, C., & Guan, J. (2014). Local Nash
Equilibrium in Social Networks, *4*, 6224.

Best,
Chris Buddenhagen
cbuddenha...@gmail.com

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