Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
Here, here. John Kane Kingston ON Canada -Original Message- From: 538...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:07:12 -0700 To: j...@mail.bitwrit.com.au, achim.zeil...@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales I nominate the following for the fortunes package. . I still don't think it would be fair to the data, and you don't want those data liberation people parading around your laboratory with pictures of helpless data being devoured by a Babbage Difference Engine. -- Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D. 538...@gmail.com __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
I nominate the following for the fortunes package. . I still don't think it would be fair to the data, and you don't want those data liberation people parading around your laboratory with pictures of helpless data being devoured by a Babbage Difference Engine. -- Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D. 538...@gmail.com __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
Imagine you were plotting two sets, (x1, y1) and (x2, y2) on the same
plot, where x1 and x2 have the same range, but y1 and y2 need different
axis scales.
Here's an example that I think illustrates the idea. It's a long way from
being general, and if I were making it into a function in a package, I
would certainly find ways to parameterize the various y ranges.
But I think it illustrates a way to accomplish what was requested.
## some fake data
x - 1:4
y - c(1,105, 2, 130)
is.lo - y 100
x1 - x[is.lo]
y1 - y[is.lo]
x2 - x[!is.lo]
y2 - y[!is.lo]
yl1 - c(0,10)
yl2 - c(50,140)
ya1 - c(0,5)
ya2 - c(100,140)
par(mar=c(5.1, 4.1, 4.1, 4.1))
plot(range(x), yl1, type='n', yaxt='n', ylab='', xlab='X')
mtext('Low range of Y', side=2, line=2.5, adj=0.25)
points(x1,y1)
axis(2, pretty(ya1))
par(new=TRUE)## this is the key trick
## I can now add data to the existing plot,
## using any data ranges I want
plot(range(x), yl2, type='n', yaxt='n', xaxt='n', ylab='', xlab='')
points(x2,y2, col='red')
axis(4, pretty(ya2))
mtext('High range of Y', side=4, line=2.5, adj=0.75)
One can build exactly what one wants using base R graphics tools.
(And I decline to address questions of whether such a plot is a good way
to present data)
--
Don MacQueen
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On 2/25/14 9:18 AM, David Parkhurst parkh...@imap.iu.edu wrote:
I have a Y variable with many values less than 50, and many fewer
between 50 and 250.I'd like to plot those Y's against an X, with two
scales on the Y axis---maybe 60% of the axis height for 0-50 and the top
40% for 50-250.(I can't use log(Y) because there are many zeroes, and
that is the most desirable value.)
I think I've seen plots done that way, but is there a way to create them
in R?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
One option is the gap.plot function in the plotrix package. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Parkhurst parkh...@imap.iu.edu wrote: I have a Y variable with many values less than 50, and many fewer between 50 and 250.I'd like to plot those Y's against an X, with two scales on the Y axis---maybe 60% of the axis height for 0-50 and the top 40% for 50-250.(I can't use log(Y) because there are many zeroes, and that is the most desirable value.) I think I've seen plots done that way, but is there a way to create them in R? Thanks for any help. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D. 538...@gmail.com __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
Please be a good netizen and post plain text on the list. Jim can probably point you to some plotrix function that will do what you ask, but I would encourage you to plot the data twice rather than confusing the audience with nonlinear (discontinuous) scales in a single plot. --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.usBasics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. On February 25, 2014 9:18:50 AM PST, David Parkhurst parkh...@imap.iu.edu wrote: I have a Y variable with many values less than 50, and many fewer between 50 and 250.I'd like to plot those Y's against an X, with two scales on the Y axis---maybe 60% of the axis height for 0-50 and the top 40% for 50-250.(I can't use log(Y) because there are many zeroes, and that is the most desirable value.) I think I've seen plots done that way, but is there a way to create them in R? Thanks for any help. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
I have a Y variable with many values less than 50, and many fewer between 50 and 250.I'd like to plot those Y's against an X, with two scales on the Y axis---maybe 60% of the axis height for 0-50 and the top 40% for 50-250.(I can't use log(Y) because there are many zeroes, and that is the most desirable value.) Hi David, You can't do this with gap.plot because the scale of the ordinate stays the same over its extent. You could do it with twoord.plot, but it is probably not a good idea. twoord.plot was written to allow the viewer to eyeball the relationship between two variables with different metrics on a common abcissa. What you describe above is two sections of the same plot of one variable with two different scales on the same axis. This kind of defeats the whole idea of representing a variable's values in some visual metric. Having been almost as negative as the logarithms you would need to represent your zeros, I will offer a few suggestions. If you are worried about crowding of large numbers of points in the lower portion of the plot, perhaps you could use smaller symbols (e.g. plot them with text using . with adj=c(0.5,0)) or look at the count.overplot function in plotrix. I suppose you could use twoord.plot by breaking up the the values into two sets and adjusting the ylim on each side so that the two sets of values had a gap between them and then sticking in a gap style axis.break. I still don't think it would be fair to the data, and you don't want those data liberation people parading around your laboratory with pictures of helpless data being devoured by a Babbage Difference Engine. Jim __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
Another suggestion - would a square-root scale work for you?
Peter Alspach
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Subject: Re: [R] Plots with Y axis split into two scales
I have a Y variable with many values less than 50, and many fewer
between 50 and 250.I'd like to plot those Y's against an X, with two
scales on the Y axis---maybe 60% of the axis height for 0-50 and the
top 40% for 50-250.(I can't use log(Y) because there are many zeroes,
and that is the most desirable value.)
Hi David,
You can't do this with gap.plot because the scale of the ordinate stays the
same over its extent. You could do it with twoord.plot, but it is probably not
a good idea. twoord.plot was written to allow the viewer to eyeball the
relationship between two variables with different metrics on a common abcissa.
What you describe above is two sections of the same plot of one variable with
two different scales on the same axis. This kind of defeats the whole idea of
representing a variable's values in some visual metric.
Having been almost as negative as the logarithms you would need to represent
your zeros, I will offer a few suggestions. If you are worried about crowding
of large numbers of points in the lower portion of the plot, perhaps you could
use smaller symbols (e.g. plot them with text using . with adj=c(0.5,0)) or
look at the count.overplot function in plotrix. I suppose you could use
twoord.plot by breaking up the the values into two sets and adjusting the ylim
on each side so that the two sets of values had a gap between them and then
sticking in a gap style axis.break. I still don't think it would be fair to
the data, and you don't want those data liberation people parading around your
laboratory with pictures of helpless data being devoured by a Babbage
Difference Engine.
Jim
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