R: [R] How to plot this

2004-11-17 Thread Guazzetti Stefano
Hi,
looking at ?plot.density you will find a zero.line argument: 
set it to FALSE and no gray lines will appear in the plot.

plot(density(y), zero.line = F,  main= , ann = F,
  xlim = c(0, 4), ylim = c(0, 1), lty = 2, col = 4, axes = F)
#and the add
 mtext(side = 1, line = 0, text = Environmental gradient )
 mtext(side = 2, line = 0, text = Abundance of species  )
 arrows(0, 0, 4, 0,  angle = 15, length = 0.1, lwd=2)
 arrows(0, 0, 0, 1,  angle = 15, length = 0.1, lwd=2)


Hope this helps
Stefano

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 Hi there,
 
  
 
 I produced a plot using the following codes:
 
  
 
 y-rnorm(1000, 2, 0)
 
 x0-c(0, 0)
 
 y0-c(0, 0)
 
 y1-c(0, 1)
 
 x1-c(0, 4)
 
 plot(density(y), ylab=Abundance of species, xlab=Environmental
 gradient, main= , 
 
xlim=c(0, 4), ylim=c(0, 1), lty=2, col=4, xaxt=n, yaxt=n,
 frame.plot=F)
 
 lines(x0, y1) # add an axis
 
 lines(x1, y0) # add an axis
 
 arrows(3.95, 0, 4, 0,  angle = 15, length = 0.1)
 
 arrows(0, 0.98, 0, 1,  angle = 15, length = 0.1)
 
  
 
 Please help me to remove the grey horizontal line and put the axis
 labels closer to the axes. And also appreciate any 
 suggestions on how to
 make those arrows look nicer, e.g. a filled small arrow for each axis,
 like what from points(0, 1,   pch=17), but a slightly narrowed one.
 Thanks.
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
  
 
 Jin Li
 
 
 
 Jin Li, PhD
 
 Climate Impacts Modeller
 
 CSIRO Sustainable Ecosystems
 
 Atherton, QLD 4883, Australia
 
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [R] R 2.0.0 Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread Uwe Ligges
David Rocke wrote:
I and my students have been having an odd problem with this release,
which is that packages are disappearing. After installation the
package is found with the library command, but later in the same
session or in a later session, the library command returns a not found
error. Then later it is back. Happening on both Windows and OS X,
mostly but not entirely with Bioconductor packages.
Please tell us more details. It never happened to anybody else that 
packages dissapear. Are the files still at the correct location? Have 
you instaled into another library tree?

Uwe Ligges

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Re: [R] CDs for R?

2004-11-17 Thread Stuart Leask
I note similar discussions re. 'linux live' distributions, and another key
point made there is that, with a moving target (ie. several significant
upgrades a year), one shouldn't contribute to the vast mountain of landfill
CDRs already represent.

Which makes me wonder about changing the model a bit ie. folks who want it
on CD send a CDRW or USB key with a stamped, self-addressed enveloped to
somewhere (central, or the 'buddy list' already suggested) where the
requested files will be burnt on. The 'cost' of burning these could be seen
as one consequence of the GPL!

That way, most of the 'manufacture  distribution' costs stay where they
should ie. with the person who wants the CD, and we aren't generating more
rapidly-useless CDs...

Stuart


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 On 16 Nov 2004, at 23:39, (Ted Harding) wrote:
 
  Some of us are on narrow bandwidth dialup connections,
  so downloading large quantities of stuff is out of the
  question (e.g. at approx. 5min/MB, it would take over
  2 days to download a single CD). The meat of CRAN
  (including contributed packages and documentation)
  is enough to fill 5 CDs, though one individual probably
  wouldn't be interested in all of that.

 5 CDs sounds 4 too many. I once burnt CDs for my students, and they
 fitted nicely in one CD (Windows binaries, all packages as Windows
 binaries and sources, contributed documents).  I guess you can fit
 Windows, Mac and some Linux binaries all in one CD.

 Now comes my suggestion to CRAN maintainer: this all would be easier,
 if you would produce a CD image file ('iso') that would contain a
 snapshot of the latest version: main binaries, all contributed
 packages, and docs. Getting somebody to help downloading this iso would
 be much easier than trying to collect all first and then make up your
 own cd image.

 Actually, only Windows and Mac users need binary versions of packages.
 The former because they don't have tools to install from source, the
 latter because they don't know that they have the tools (being command
 line challenged).

 To Dirk Eddelbuettel: Yes indeed, Ubuntu gives human face to Debian and
 is a much more pleasant experience. However, changing OS for R may be
 asking too much. Further, Ubuntu/Debian comes with a tiny and biased
 selection of packages, and if that's not your kind of bias, you have
 got to go to the Internet again. Further, Ubuntu (and other Linuxes)
 lag behind R. The current Ubuntu release comes with R 1.9.1, and it
 won't be upgraded but in the next release scheduled for April 2005 (and
 just in the same time as the next R, so that Ubuntu will be one R
 version off again). I guess the lag is even worse in packages.

 cheers, jari oksanen
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RE: [R] how to estimate conditional density

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Harding
On 17-Nov-04 Yulei He wrote:
 Hi, there.
 
 Suppose I have a bivariate data set y1 and y2. Can anybody
 tell me how to estimate the conditional density of f(y1|y2)
 and vice versa? Thanks.
 
 Yulei

In the absence of a parametric model for the distribution,
a simple-minded approach could be the following:

1. Use 'f-kde2d(...)' from the MASS library to generate a
   kernel density estimate of the bivariate distribution,
   ensuring that your (y1,y2) grid includes the value of y2
   at which you want to get f(y1|y2). Suppose that different
   values of y2 correspond to different rows of the matrix
   f$z in the returned result (see ?kde2d).

2. For the row [i] corresponding to the conditioning value
   of y2, normalise the values so that sum(f$z[i,]*dy1)=1,
   where dy1 is the step between different values of y1 in
   the grid used in (1).

The resulting normalised row of values is then an estimate
of f(y1|y2), for each such value of y2.

Similarly, applying (2) to the columns of f$z, you can get
an estimate of f(y2|y1).

[Note: for each single value of y2, you don't need to estimate
 the density of y2, i.e. for this purpose you can forget about
 the definition f(y1,y2)/f(y2) of f(y1|y2).]

Hoping this helps,
Ted.



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[R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Hello,

In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine (issue 78, p. 22), there
is a review on free statistical software by Felix Grant (doesn't have to
pay good money to obtain good statistics software). As far as I know, this
is the first time that R is even mentioned in this magazine, given that it
usually discuss commercial products.

In this article, the analysis of R is interesting. It is admitted that R is
a great software with lots of potentials, but: All in all, R was a good
lesson in the price that may have to be paid for free software: I spent many
hours relearning some quite basic things taken for granted in the commercial
package. Those basic things are releated with data import, obtention of
basic plots, etc... with a claim for a missing more intuitive GUI in order
to smooth a little bit the learning curve.

There are several R GUI projects ongoing, but these are progressing very
slowly. The main reason is, I believe, that a relatively low number of
programmers working on R are interested by this field. Most people wanting
such a GUI are basic user that do not (cannot) contribute... And if they
eventually become more knowledgeable, they tend to have other interests.

So, is this analysis correct: are there hidden costs for free software like
R in the time required to learn it? At least currently, for the people I
know (biologists, ecologists, oceanographers, ...), this is perfectly true.
This is even an insurmountable barrier for many of them I know, and they
have given up (they come back to Statistica, Systat, or S-PLUS using
exclusively functions they can reach through menus/dialog boxes).

Of course, the solution is to have a decent GUI for R, but this is a lot of
work, and I wonder if the intrinsic mechanism of GPL is not working against
such a development (leading to a very low pool of programmers actively
involved in the elaboration of such a GUI, in comparison to the very large
pool of competent developers working on R itself).

Do not misunderstand me: I don't give up with my GUI project, I am just
wondering if there is a general, ineluctable mechanism that leads to the
current R / R GUI situation as it stands,... and consequently to a general
rule that there are indeed most of the time hidden costs in free
software, due to the larger time required to learn it. I am sure there are
counter-examples, however, my feeling is that, for Linux, Apache, etc... the
GUI (if there is one) is often a way back in comparison to the potentials in
the software, leading to a steep learning curve in order to use all these
features.

I would be interested by your impressions and ideas on this topic.

Best regards,

Philippe Grosjean  

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Re: [R] violinplot options

2004-11-17 Thread Uwe Ligges
Tanja Zseby wrote:
Hi,
I am using the function  vioplot() to generate violin plots. Now I would 
like to add a label to the y axix and a title to the diagram.
Just setting ylab didnt work. Is it possible to set such options for the 
function ?
I tried also with the function simple.violinplot, but also with this I 
couldnt set the options.

Kind Regards
Tanja
Looks like nobody else has responded so far.
If you are talking about the function in the package also called 
vioplot: The function is not very well designed. But since there is 
not much code in it, it is quite easy to add additional functionality 
yourself by adapting the whole function.

Uwe Ligges


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[R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization

2004-11-17 Thread Witold Eryk Wolski
Hi R-Users and Developers,
Several months ago I made a request on Sourceforge to add the R/S - 
programming language to the _Trove_ categorization. (The Trove is a 
means to convey basic metainformation about your project.)

Today I got the following response of one of the sourceforge admins.
SNIP
SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
SNIP
If anyone of you knew about R-packages, or projects using the R/S 
programming language, which are hosted on sourceforge, please reply to this 
thread. I hope that your answers will enable me to give more then 5 examples of 
R projects hosted on Sourceforge.
Yours Eryk
Ps.
The ID of my original feature request  on Sourceforge is 967697.
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=350001aid=967697group_id=1
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Re: [R] persp grid

2004-11-17 Thread Uwe Ligges
Joel Bremson wrote:
I've got a 4x4 matrix of points from a 2-way ANOVA I'd like to plot.
The x,y correspond to the treatment groups and look like this
((1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(2,1),...).
The z is the 4x4 matrix.
How can I get persp to grid the x,y axis with only the numbers 1-4 on both?
The first question is whether it will be nice to have a surface by just 
4x4 points (of probably non-continous variables), the second point is 
that it is very hard to have a fixed number of tick marks in persp().
I think it is almost impossible without changing internal code.
As an ugly workaround, you can add text add the corresponding positions 
along the axes using the transformation matrix given in the examples of 
?persp.

Uwe Ligges

Regards,
Joel Bremson
UC Davis Statistics Dept.
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Re: [R] changing character to a vector name

2004-11-17 Thread Uwe Ligges
Laura Holt wrote:
Dear R People:
I would like to generate a vector/variable name from within a loop to be 
passed to a table
function.

This is what I have so far:
assign(p1,paste(raw3.df$,rw2$V1[3],sep=))
p1

[1] raw3.df$CITIZEN
Life is much easier: Consider to use raw3.df[[rw2$V1[3]]] instead.
Uwe Ligges


Essentially, I want to use the raw3.df$CITIZEN along with another value 
to generate a table.

However, I'm stuck here.  I know this is incredibly stupid.
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely
Laura Holt
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Re: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization

2004-11-17 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi,

I have 2 _small_ projects hosted in sf.net that use R 

FLR :: R for fisheries science (http://flr.sf.net)
fsap: fish stock assessment for R (http://sf.net/projects/fsap)

The first one is getting some hip and the second is dying ...

Hope it helps.

Regards

EJ

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:09, Witold Eryk Wolski wrote:
 Hi R-Users and Developers,
 
 Several months ago I made a request on Sourceforge to add the R/S - 
 programming language to the _Trove_ categorization. (The Trove is a 
 means to convey basic metainformation about your project.)
 
 Today I got the following response of one of the sourceforge admins.
 
 SNIP
 
 SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
 language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
 projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
 of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
 SNIP
 
 
 If anyone of you knew about R-packages, or projects using the R/S programming 
 language, which are hosted on sourceforge, please reply to this thread. I 
 hope that your answers will enable me to give more then 5 examples of R 
 projects hosted on Sourceforge.
 
 Yours Eryk
 
 
 Ps.
 
 The ID of my original feature request  on Sourceforge is 967697.
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=350001aid=967697group_id=1

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RE: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Lorenz . Gygax
 So, is this analysis correct: are there hidden costs for free 
 software like R in the time required to learn it? At least
 currently, for the people I know (biologists, ecologists,
 oceanographers, ...), this is perfectly true. This is even an
 insurmountable barrier for many of them I know, and they
 have given up (they come back to Statistica, Systat, or S-PLUS
 using exclusively functions they can reach through menus/dialog
 boxes).

I guess you are right, in that the steep initial learning curve could be
smoothed for beginners. On the other hand I do not see how a GUI for R could
cover more than the bare essentials because the available functionality is
so vast. We also have S-Plus at our research institution and even there, I
see, that people who do not know about the underlying code have difficulties
in using the GUI.

I personally believe that it is more a question how one is used to do
statistics. Click and drag is the norm. (And I guess it is usually also the
norm of how people/scientists use other Software.) In my eyes, using code
instead, means that one is able to repeat the steps of an evaluation easily
and to document at the same time what has been done. Very soon evaluations
(and data handling) can be done far more efficiently than with click and
drag. All these advantages outweigh the initial costs by several orders of
magnitude. Thus, in my opinion it is more a question of education such that
people might realize how they can work efficiently and cleanly. Perhaps one
could even say that such an approach is more scientific because, in
principal, it can be easily communicated and reproduced.

It is, of course, easy for me to make these statements, as in the meantime I
have been using S (S-Plus and R) for - gosh - over 10 years. But I see in
some projects that I supervise that people get started easily with a snippet
of code that I provide and the insight of the usefulness of such a work
approach is usually easily within reach.

Lorenz
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Re: [R] beginner's problem in displaying large data

2004-11-17 Thread Romain François
You can also try :
ab - matrix(rnorm(1),nc=5)
edit(ab)
Hope this helps.
Spencer Graves a écrit :
 1.  Did you try dim(sample.data)?  Is it actually 2200 by 15?  
Or are you reading in just some subset of the data?  If it is 2200 by 
15, could you also please do class(sample.data)?
 2.  I just got a full listing from the following:
 (tst - data.frame(array(rnorm(2200), dim=c(2200, 15

 You might try this.  With R 2.0.0patched under Windows 2000, I 
got rows 1:2200 flying by 3 times, each with 5 columns.
 3.  Have you considered doing plots (including qqnorm) of numeric 
variables and tables of character variables?  These can often reveal 
problems I might never see in a simple scan of numbers.
 4.  PLEASE do read the posting guide! 
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html;.  At minimum, please tell 
us which version of R under which operating system, and specifically 
what you did to get it into R and how you know it's 2200 by 15.
 hope this helps.  spencer graves

Terry Mu wrote:
I got a sample data (let's call it sample.data), which is about 2200 
by 15.

I tried to take a look of all data
 

sample.data
  

It shows only a part of data that I thought was a corner. It does not
really affect my job, but I thought it is nice to have a look of all
data. I can see individual records and they are fine.
Is this normal because of buffer size or some reasons? Can I use other
commands or change some settings to display all data?
Thanks,
Terry
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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Jan P. Smit
Dear Phillippe,
Very interesting. The URL of the article is 
http://www.scientific-computing.com/scwsepoct04free_statistics.html.

Best regards,
Jan Smit
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
Hello,
In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine (issue 78, p. 22), there
is a review on free statistical software by Felix Grant (doesn't have to
pay good money to obtain good statistics software). As far as I know, this
is the first time that R is even mentioned in this magazine, given that it
usually discuss commercial products.
In this article, the analysis of R is interesting. It is admitted that R is
a great software with lots of potentials, but: All in all, R was a good
lesson in the price that may have to be paid for free software: I spent many
hours relearning some quite basic things taken for granted in the commercial
package. Those basic things are releated with data import, obtention of
basic plots, etc... with a claim for a missing more intuitive GUI in order
to smooth a little bit the learning curve.
There are several R GUI projects ongoing, but these are progressing very
slowly. The main reason is, I believe, that a relatively low number of
programmers working on R are interested by this field. Most people wanting
such a GUI are basic user that do not (cannot) contribute... And if they
eventually become more knowledgeable, they tend to have other interests.
So, is this analysis correct: are there hidden costs for free software like
R in the time required to learn it? At least currently, for the people I
know (biologists, ecologists, oceanographers, ...), this is perfectly true.
This is even an insurmountable barrier for many of them I know, and they
have given up (they come back to Statistica, Systat, or S-PLUS using
exclusively functions they can reach through menus/dialog boxes).
Of course, the solution is to have a decent GUI for R, but this is a lot of
work, and I wonder if the intrinsic mechanism of GPL is not working against
such a development (leading to a very low pool of programmers actively
involved in the elaboration of such a GUI, in comparison to the very large
pool of competent developers working on R itself).
Do not misunderstand me: I don't give up with my GUI project, I am just
wondering if there is a general, ineluctable mechanism that leads to the
current R / R GUI situation as it stands,... and consequently to a general
rule that there are indeed most of the time hidden costs in free
software, due to the larger time required to learn it. I am sure there are
counter-examples, however, my feeling is that, for Linux, Apache, etc... the
GUI (if there is one) is often a way back in comparison to the potentials in
the software, leading to a steep learning curve in order to use all these
features.
I would be interested by your impressions and ideas on this topic.
Best regards,
Philippe Grosjean  

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[R] RPMS for Fedora/RedHat

2004-11-17 Thread Martyn Plummer
An RPM for R 2.0.1 on Fedora Core 3/i386 should now be available on a
CRAN mirror near you.  

Unfortunately, I am temporarily unable to build RPMS for previous
versions of Fedora and Red Hat Linux due to problems with the mach
chroot system on FC3.  I expect this situation will be resolved soon and
I will let you know. Thank you for your patience. 

(NB This is not a call for volunteers to contribute RPMS).

Prof. Brian Ripley has contributed RPMS for Fedora Core 3/x86_64 and
these will soon be available on CRAN.

Martyn

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Re: [R] violinplot options

2004-11-17 Thread Henric Nilsson
At 10:55 2004-11-17 +0100, Uwe Ligges wrote:
Looks like nobody else has responded so far.
I actually wrote something, but forgot to send it...
If you are talking about the function in the package also called 
vioplot: The function is not very well designed. But since there is not 
much code in it, it is quite easy to add additional functionality yourself 
by adapting the whole function.
That's the ambitious approach!
Tanja: If you just want to add the title and y axis label, the title 
function suffices. E.g.

 library(vioplot)
 vioplot(runif(10))
 title(main = A title, ylab = The y label)
HTH,
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[R] log-normal distribution and shapiro test

2004-11-17 Thread Siegfried Gonzi
Hello:
Yes I know that sort of questions comes up quite often. But with all due 
respect I din't find how to perform what I want. I am searching archives 
and bowsing manuals but it isn't there, though, it is a ridiculous 
simple task for the experienced R user.

I have data and can do the following with them:
==
hist(y, prob=TRUE)
lines(density(y,bw=0.03)
==
The result actually is a nice histogram superimposed by a line plot.
The histogram is a bit skewed to the left. My assumption actually is 
that a log-normal transformation would cure the problem. But how the 
hell can one plot such a density function or Gaussian function which has 
logarithmic scales on x axis.

For example I tried:
==
plot(hist(y),log=x)
or
plot(hist(log10(y)),log=x)
==
But with no avail. I want  my axis like: 1,10,100

What would be other methods to test whether the data are logaritmically 
distributed.

A last question to the Shapiro-Wilk test. Were can I get critical 
parameters? I mean I get for my distribution: W=0.9686, p-value=6.887e-07.
What does that mean? Yes I have got some books about statics, but none 
of them says what one should do with the values then. The logaritmic 
transformation shapiro.test(log10(y)) says: W=0.9773, p-value= 2.512e-05.

Sorry for disturbing you. Although, it is really no homework. I need it 
for my Phd in physics; after a lengthy computation on the computer I 
would like to go to see whether the outputs are log-normal or normal 
distributed.

Regards,
Siegfried Gonzi
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Institute for Physics
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RE: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Harding
On 17-Nov-04 Philippe Grosjean wrote:
 Hello,
 
 In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine
 (issue 78, p. 22), there is a review on free statistical
 software by Felix Grant (doesn't have to pay good money
 to obtain good statistics software). As far as I know,
 this is the first time that R is even mentioned in this
 magazine, given that it usually discuss commercial products.

Hi Philippe,
Thanks for a most interesting post on this question. Further
comments below. Felix Grant's article is excellent, and well
balanced.

 In this article, the analysis of R is interesting. It is
 admitted that R is a great software with lots of potentials,
 but: All in all, R was a good lesson in the price that may
 have to be paid for free software: I spent many hours
 relearning some quite basic things taken for granted in the
 commercial package. Those basic things are releated with
 data import, obtention of basic plots, etc... with a claim
 for a missing more intuitive GUI in order to smooth a little
 bit the learning curve.

It would better represent the balanced view of the article
to further quote:

  In fact, the whole file menu in R looks either elegantly
   uncluttered of frightenly obscure, depending on your point
   of view.

  It [the effort of learning] is the price paid, just as the
   dollars or euros for a commercial package would be. For
   that price, I've learned a great deal -- and nor only
   about R. And I shall remember it when I next have to find
   a heavyweight solution for a big problem presented by a
   small charitable client with an invisible budget. It's a
   huge, awe-inspiring package -- easier to perceive as such
   because the power is not hidden beneath a cosmetic veneer.

This last remark is, in my view, particularly significant.
See below.

 There are several R GUI projects ongoing, but these are
 progressing very slowly. The main reason is, I believe,
 that a relatively low number of programmers working on R
 are interested by this field. Most people wanting such a
 GUI are basic user that do not (cannot) contribute... 
 And if they eventually become more knowledgeable, they
 tend to have other interests.
 
 So, is this analysis correct: are there hidden costs for
 free software like R in the time required to learn it?
 At least currently, for the people I know (biologists,
 ecologists, oceanographers, ...), this is perfectly true.
 This is even an insurmountable barrier for many of them
 I know, and they have given up (they come back to Statistica,
 Systat, or S-PLUS using exclusively functions they can
 reach through menus/dialog boxes).

Non-GUI vs GUI is not intrinsically linked to Free Software
as such. There are well-known FS programs which are essentially
GUI-based -- as an easy example, consider all the FS Web
Browsers such as Netscape, Mozilla, ... . If you want the
graphics experiences offered by the Web, you're in a graphics
screen anyway, and so it may as well be programmed around
a GUI. Others, such as OpenOffice, have deliberately built
on a GUI approach in order to emulate The Other Thing.

There are a lot of FS programs which offer a GUI, usually
somewhat on the basic side, which nonetheless encapsulates
the entire functionality of the program and saves the user
the task of composing a possibly complex command-line or
even a script.

The comment hidden beneath a cosmetic veneer is, in my
view, somewhat directly linked to commercial software.
If you sell software, you want a big market. So you want
to include the people who will never learn how to work
software from a command line; and the sweeter the taste of
the eye candy, the more such people will feel enjoyment
in using the software. The fact that their usage is limited
to what has been pre-programmed into the menus is not going
to affect many such people, since typically their useage
is limited to a very small subset of what is in fact possible.
This in turn leads, of course, to the phenomenon of
software-driven analysis, where people only do what the
GUI allows (or, more precisely, easily allows); and this
leads on in turn to a culture in which people tend to believe
that Statistics is what they can do with a particular
software package.

S-Plus does its best to compromise: as well as GUI access
to a pretty wide range of functions, there is the Command
Line Window where the user can explicitly type in commands.
(I dare say many R users, in S-Plus, may tend to work in
the latter since they are already used to it.) But, as always
in a GUI, one can tend to get lost in the ramifications.
Also, things like the big arrays of tiny icons you get when
you click on the 2D Plots or 3D Plots buttons in the
S-Plus toolbar can be trying on the eyes and time-consuming
to pick through.

 Of course, the solution is to have a decent GUI for R,
 but this is a lot of work, and I wonder if the intrinsic
 mechanism of GPL is not working against such a development
 (leading to a very low pool of programmers actively 

Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Federico Calboli
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
 I would be interested by your impressions and ideas on this topic.

I have found that user friendly packages make a lot of assumptions and
take a lot of decisions for the user. This makes things easy, but you do
not really know what is going on, and I'd say this is a hidden cost of
commercial software. 

I wrote to the list in February asking how to reproduce some results
previously obtained with Statistica. It turned out that Statistica does
some data manipulation without telling the user, with poor documentation
and no options or choice. Do you trust results obtained this way? I
don't. 

So I'd argue that the lack of a GUI is a good thing, because it forces
the users to think a bit more about what they want to do, and gives more
control on what is going on.

Best,

Federico Calboli
-- 
Federico C. F. Calboli

Dipartimento di Biologia Evoluzionistica Sperimentale
Università di Bologna
Via Selmi, 3
40126 Bologna - ITALY

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Fax - +39 051 2094286
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Re: [R] R 2.0.0 Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread Tim Cutts
On 17 Nov 2004, at 9:00 am, Uwe Ligges wrote:
David Rocke wrote:
I and my students have been having an odd problem with this release,
which is that packages are disappearing. After installation the
package is found with the library command, but later in the same
session or in a later session, the library command returns a not found
error. Then later it is back. Happening on both Windows and OS X,
mostly but not entirely with Bioconductor packages.
Please tell us more details. It never happened to anybody else that 
packages dissapear. Are the files still at the correct location? Have 
you instaled into another library tree?
Have you installed them on a network volume?  I've seen this sort of 
behaviour with overloaded NFS servers in the past.

Tim
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[R] frailty and time-dependent covariate

2004-11-17 Thread Emanuela Rossi
Hello,

I'm trying to estimate a cox model with a frailty variable and time-dependent 
covariate (below there is the statement I use and the error message). It's 
seems to be impossible, because every time I add the time-dependent covariate 
the model doesn't converge. Instead, if I estimate the same model without the 
time-dependent covariate it's converge. I'd like knowing if it's a statistical 
problem due to the model formula or if it could be a problem related to my data.

Thanks a lot

Emanuela Rossi


 fit_19_1-coxph(Surv(DATA_INI1,DATA_FIN1,EVENT1)~ 
 V1+V2+alt1+alt2+strata(autocorr1)+cap1+SP+SP2+SP3+SP3:log(DATA_FIN1)+D1500+D3000+D4500+frailty.gaussian(ID),data=SURV1)

Warning messages: 
1: Inner loop failed to coverge for iterations 1 3 in: coxpenal.fit(X, Y, 
strats, offset, init = init, control, weights = weights,  
2: longer object length
is not a multiple of shorter object length in: offset + 
coxfit$fcoef[x[, fcol]] 
3: X matrix deemed to be singular; variable 8 in: coxph(Surv(DATA_INI1, 
DATA_FIN1, EVENT1) ~ V1 + V2 + alt1 + alt2 +  

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[R] R: log-normal distribution and shapiro test

2004-11-17 Thread Vito Ricci
Hi,

from what you're writing:
The logaritmic transformation
shapiro.test(log10(y)) says: W=0.9773, p-value=
2.512e-05. it seems the log-values are not
distributed normally and so original data are not
distributed like a log-normal: the p-value is
extremally small!

Other tests for normality are available in package:
nortest

compare the log-transformation of your ecdf with
normal cdf: see ? ecdf

use qqnorm and qqplot

did you calculate skewness and kurtosis? see in
package fBasics.

I remember to you that the log-normal distribution as
three parameters: shape parameter, location parameter
and scale parameter. Transfroming by the simple log,
you are missing the location parameter, or implicitely
 you assuming is =0.

See:
http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda3669.htm
for more news about log-normal distribution.

I hope I give you a little help.
Best
Vito


 

you wrote:

Hello:

Yes I know that sort of questions comes up quite
often. But with all due 
respect I din't find how to perform what I want. I am
searching archives 
and bowsing manuals but it isn't there, though, it is
a ridiculous 
simple task for the experienced R user.

I have data and can do the following with them:

==
hist(y, prob=TRUE)
lines(density(y,bw=0.03)
==

The result actually is a nice histogram superimposed
by a line plot.

The histogram is a bit skewed to the left. My
assumption actually is 
that a log-normal transformation would cure the
problem. But how the 
hell can one plot such a density function or Gaussian
function which has 
logarithmic scales on x axis.

For example I tried:

==
plot(hist(y),log=x)

or

plot(hist(log10(y)),log=x)
==

But with no avail. I want  my axis like: 1,10,100



What would be other methods to test whether the data
are logaritmically 
distributed.

A last question to the Shapiro-Wilk test. Were can I
get critical 
parameters? I mean I get for my distribution:
W=0.9686, p-value=6.887e-07.
What does that mean? Yes I have got some books about
statics, but none 
of them says what one should do with the values then.
The logaritmic 
transformation shapiro.test(log10(y)) says:
W=0.9773, p-value= 2.512e-05.

Sorry for disturbing you. Although, it is really no
homework. I need it 
for my Phd in physics; after a lengthy computation on
the computer I 
would like to go to see whether the outputs are
log-normal or normal 
distributed.

Regards,
Siegfried Gonzi
==
University of Graz
Institute for Physics
Tel.: ++43-316-380-8620

=
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[R] R package installation

2004-11-17 Thread Timothy D. Johnson
Dear Marco,
I was given an excerpt with your problem about installing package on
a MAC, such as Hmisc.
I had the same problems and found a work around.
I have not had any trouble loading in source packages since, include
Hmisc and Design, acepack and vgam.
First, I downloaded and installed the g77 compiler.
I use a progam named FINK to find, download and intall g77 (so first I 
installed FINK
then from within FINK I downloaded/installed the g77 compiler.) Do a 
Google search
for FINK, it is easy to find and install.

After g77 was installed I had to make a symbolic link so R could find 
it:

ln -s \sw\bin\g77 \usr\bin\g77  (I think I had to make a link to my gcc 
compiler also)
\n -s \sw\bin\gcc \usr\bin\g77

It looks like you already have the g77 compiler from the message.  the 
next mesage you can also remedy by symbolic links.  Try

ln -s /sw/lib/gcc   /usr/local/lib/gcc
ln -s /sw/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin7.5.0   
\usr\local\lib\gcc\powerpc-apple-darwin6.8
ln -s /sw/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin7.5.0/3.4.1   
\usr\local\lib\gcc\powerpc-apple-darwin6.8\3.4.2

The first directory path in each of the above may be specific to your 
configuration for gcc.

But this did work for me, and if you find the correct location for gcc/ 
powerpc-apple-darwinX.Y.Z/U.V.W, you should have no trouble either.

Good luck.
Sincerely
Tim Johnson
Adjunct Asst. Professor
University of Michigan
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Re: [R] Non-Linear Regression on a Matrix

2004-11-17 Thread Douglas Bates
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If your non-linear function (A, B) is parametric nls should do it for
you.  If you have R version 2 (perhaps even 1.9) do ?nls to see the help
page.  Older versions of R require library(nls) first.
Hope this helps,
Andy
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Hi, I'm terribly sorry for submitting my primitive question, I'm a
beginner in R and was hoping to get some help re: non-linear fit.
I have a 2D data with the following structure:
A BC
1  1  111
1  2  121
1  3  131
2  1  141
2  2  151
2  3  161
3  1  171
3  2  181
3  3  191
I'm trying to fit C = non-linear function (A,B). I was wondering if
there's a package that would save my time of doing direct least square
estimation.
Thank you,
Diana
By non-linear do you mean something like a response surface model that 
has quadratic terms in A and B and an interaction term?

If so, you can fit the model using the lm function, as in
 rs - read.table(/tmp/rs.dat, header = TRUE)
 rs
  A B   C
1 1 1 111
2 1 2 121
3 1 3 131
4 2 1 141
5 2 2 151
6 2 3 161
7 3 1 171
8 3 2 181
9 3 3 191
 fm - lm(C ~ A * B + I(A^2) + I(B^2), rs)
 fm
Call:
lm(formula = C ~ A * B + I(A^2) + I(B^2), data = rs)
Coefficients:
(Intercept)AB   I(A^2)   I(B^2) 
 A:B
  7.100e+013.000e+011.000e+01   -1.174e-157.217e-16 
-4.008e-15

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[R] Impossible to run error message when using Sweave

2004-11-17 Thread Doran, Harold
Dear List:

I have a large dataset of multiple schools. My goal is to produce a
separate tex file for each school that plots some of the student
achievement scores. Essentially, the aim is to develop a custom report
for each school. To accomplish this, I have code for a loop that gets
sourced into R and then Sweaves the multiple files to create the
individual school reports.

Here is the code for the loop

schnum.list - as.vector(unique(cmu$schid))

for(current.school in schnum.list) {
school.df - subset(cmu, cmu$schid==current.school)
school.grades - as.vector(unique(school.df$grade))

sname - paste(paste(read, current.school,
sep=),Rnw,sep=.)
system(paste(schoolread.Rnw, paste(Reading/, sname, sep=),
sep= ))
Sweave(file= paste(Reading/, sname, sep=))
}


However, this begins to work and then produces the following errors

Writing to file read151-496-2982.tex
Processing code chunks ...
Error in file(con, r) : unable to open connection
In addition: Warning messages: 
1: Impossible to run 'G:\SWEAVE~1\SCHOOL~2.RNW
Reading/read151-496-2982.Rnw 
2: cannot open file `Reading/read151-496-2982.Rnw' 

I'm not sure exactly what the impossible to run error is. I think this
is on the verge of running correctly, but could use a little help.

Thanks,

Harold

Ver 1.9.0, Windows XP

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Jonathan Baron
On 11/17/04 12:34, Ted Harding wrote:
This, though, still fails for information in packages which
you have not installed. Perhaps I'm about to reveal my own
culpable ignorance here, but I'm not aware of a full R info
package which would be installed as part of R-base, being
a database of info about R-base itself and also every current
additional package, such that a help.search would show
all resources -- including those not installed -- which
match a query (and flag the non-installed ones as such so
that the user knows what to install for a particular purpose).

This is one of the purpose of my R search page.  I have all
packages installed.  You can also search the help list, etc., in
the same search.  Some people have bookmarks for it.  Of course
you need to be connected to the internet.

I think that any attempt to replicate this for a single user, or
even the packages, would be difficult.

BUT, it might help to install just the help pages for all
packages, without the packages themselves.  Then help.search()
would find things.  (I have no interest in figuring out how to do
this, but maybe someone else does.)

Jon
-- 
Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania
Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron
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RE: [R] R 2.0.0 Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread White, Charles E WRAIR-Wash DC
Long time no see

 

I'm not sure I can help but I will make a couple of suggestions:

 

(1) Start R clean, install the new package, exit R normally, restart R
and then try to find the package. I am adding a couple of extra,
undocumented, and generally unnecessary steps in case the programs you
are running change the R environment in an unexpected fashion.

 

(2) Document specific code that reliably reproduces the error condition.
I understand this may be difficult but I think you will attract interest
from more capable programmers if you can do it.

 

Chuck

 

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I and my students have been having an odd problem with this release,

which is that packages are disappearing. After installation the

package is found with the library command, but later in the same

session or in a later session, the library command returns a not found

error. Then later it is back. Happening on both Windows and OS X,

mostly but not entirely with Bioconductor packages.

 

David

 

 

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[R] Re: R: log-normal distribution and shapiro test

2004-11-17 Thread Siegfried Gonzi
Hi:
Thanks for your answer.
Do you know how to test whether the data would fit to a gamma-distribution?
How can I call fBasics?
Note: I installed R-language on my Macintosh today; I have used the 
binary -- pre compiled -- package.

Some of the R-help facilties do not function on my Mac.
Again to my data: How can I compute the skew? I think I lack some basic 
packages - right?

The curious things actually is that the median and the mean are quite 
similar, e.g. 0.19 and 0.2 respectively; the skew is about 1.0 (I 
calculated the skew by my own computer code in Bigloo).

The problem actually is: my boss expects from me that I make some tests; 
personally I am a bit generous and everything is a Gaussian or 
log-Gaussian distribution, because how can I be sure that the underlying 
data to not have any serious flaws? Statistics is black art - right?

Regards,
S. Gonzi

Vito Ricci wrote:
Hi,
from what you're writing:
The logaritmic transformation
shapiro.test(log10(y)) says: W=0.9773, p-value=
2.512e-05. it seems the log-values are not
distributed normally and so original data are not
distributed like a log-normal: the p-value is
extremally small!
Other tests for normality are available in package:
nortest
compare the log-transformation of your ecdf with
normal cdf: see ? ecdf
use qqnorm and qqplot
did you calculate skewness and kurtosis? see in
package fBasics.
I remember to you that the log-normal distribution as
three parameters: shape parameter, location parameter
and scale parameter. Transfroming by the simple log,
you are missing the location parameter, or implicitely
you assuming is =0.
See:
http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda3669.htm
for more news about log-normal distribution.
I hope I give you a little help.
Best
Vito

you wrote:
Hello:
Yes I know that sort of questions comes up quite
often. But with all due 
respect I din't find how to perform what I want. I am
searching archives 
and bowsing manuals but it isn't there, though, it is
a ridiculous 
simple task for the experienced R user.

I have data and can do the following with them:
==
hist(y, prob=TRUE)
lines(density(y,bw=0.03)
==
The result actually is a nice histogram superimposed
by a line plot.
The histogram is a bit skewed to the left. My
assumption actually is 
that a log-normal transformation would cure the
problem. But how the 
hell can one plot such a density function or Gaussian
function which has 
logarithmic scales on x axis.

For example I tried:
==
plot(hist(y),log=x)
or
plot(hist(log10(y)),log=x)
==
But with no avail. I want  my axis like: 1,10,100

What would be other methods to test whether the data
are logaritmically 
distributed.

A last question to the Shapiro-Wilk test. Were can I
get critical 
parameters? I mean I get for my distribution:
W=0.9686, p-value=6.887e-07.
What does that mean? Yes I have got some books about
statics, but none 
of them says what one should do with the values then.
The logaritmic 
transformation shapiro.test(log10(y)) says:
W=0.9773, p-value= 2.512e-05.

Sorry for disturbing you. Although, it is really no
homework. I need it 
for my Phd in physics; after a lengthy computation on
the computer I 
would like to go to see whether the outputs are
log-normal or normal 
distributed.

Regards,
Siegfried Gonzi
==
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[R] Re: R: log-normal distribution and shapiro test

2004-11-17 Thread Vito Ricci
Dear Siegfried,

you could find fBasics at this web address:

http://cran.at.r-project.org/src/contrib/Descriptions/fBasics.html

it includes skewness() and kurtosis() function.

I usually run R on WIN 2000 and I don't know MAC!

I can suggest to use Kolgomorov-Smirnov test to test
whether the data would fit to a gamma-distribution
 
? ks.test 

and this web page for theory about ks test:

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda35g.htm

Having mean and median quite similar don't mean it's a
normal distribution, but, maybe, could be only a
simmetric distribution!

Best
Vito

 --- Siegfried Gonzi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 
 Hi:
 
 Thanks for your answer.
 
 Do you know how to test whether the data would fit
 to a gamma-distribution?
 
 How can I call fBasics?
 
 Note: I installed R-language on my Macintosh today;
 I have used the 
 binary -- pre compiled -- package.
 
 Some of the R-help facilties do not function on my
 Mac.
 
 Again to my data: How can I compute the skew? I
 think I lack some basic 
 packages - right?
 
 The curious things actually is that the median and
 the mean are quite 
 similar, e.g. 0.19 and 0.2 respectively; the skew is
 about 1.0 (I 
 calculated the skew by my own computer code in
 Bigloo).
 
 The problem actually is: my boss expects from me
 that I make some tests; 
 personally I am a bit generous and everything is a
 Gaussian or 
 log-Gaussian distribution, because how can I be sure
 that the underlying 
 data to not have any serious flaws? Statistics is
 black art - right?
 
 Regards,
 S. Gonzi
 
 
 
 Vito Ricci wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 from what you're writing:
 The logaritmic transformation
 shapiro.test(log10(y)) says: W=0.9773, p-value=
 2.512e-05. it seems the log-values are not
 distributed normally and so original data are not
 distributed like a log-normal: the p-value is
 extremally small!
 
 Other tests for normality are available in package:
 nortest
 
 compare the log-transformation of your ecdf with
 normal cdf: see ? ecdf
 
 use qqnorm and qqplot
 
 did you calculate skewness and kurtosis? see in
 package fBasics.
 
 I remember to you that the log-normal distribution
 as
 three parameters: shape parameter, location
 parameter
 and scale parameter. Transfroming by the simple
 log,
 you are missing the location parameter, or
 implicitely
  you assuming is =0.
 
 See:

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda3669.htm
 for more news about log-normal distribution.
 
 I hope I give you a little help.
 Best
 Vito
 
 
  
 
 you wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 Yes I know that sort of questions comes up quite
 often. But with all due 
 respect I din't find how to perform what I want. I
 am
 searching archives 
 and bowsing manuals but it isn't there, though, it
 is
 a ridiculous 
 simple task for the experienced R user.
 
 I have data and can do the following with them:
 
 ==
 hist(y, prob=TRUE)
 lines(density(y,bw=0.03)
 ==
 
 The result actually is a nice histogram
 superimposed
 by a line plot.
 
 The histogram is a bit skewed to the left. My
 assumption actually is 
 that a log-normal transformation would cure the
 problem. But how the 
 hell can one plot such a density function or
 Gaussian
 function which has 
 logarithmic scales on x axis.
 
 For example I tried:
 
 ==
 plot(hist(y),log=x)
 
 or
 
 plot(hist(log10(y)),log=x)
 ==
 
 But with no avail. I want  my axis like: 1,10,100
 
 
 
 What would be other methods to test whether the
 data
 are logaritmically 
 distributed.
 
 A last question to the Shapiro-Wilk test. Were can
 I
 get critical 
 parameters? I mean I get for my distribution:
 W=0.9686, p-value=6.887e-07.
 What does that mean? Yes I have got some books
 about
 statics, but none 
 of them says what one should do with the values
 then.
 The logaritmic 
 transformation shapiro.test(log10(y)) says:
 W=0.9773, p-value= 2.512e-05.
 
 Sorry for disturbing you. Although, it is really no
 homework. I need it 
 for my Phd in physics; after a lengthy computation
 on
 the computer I 
 would like to go to see whether the outputs are
 log-normal or normal 
 distributed.
 
 Regards,
 Siegfried Gonzi
 ==
 University of Graz
 Institute for Physics
 Tel.: ++43-316-380-8620
 
 =
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 Became solutions' constructors
 
 The business of the statistician is to catalyze 
 the scientific learning process.  
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 e in particolare la sezione su Palese
 http://www.modugno.it/archivio/cat_palese.shtml
 
 
  
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Re: [R] R package installation

2004-11-17 Thread Paul Roebuck
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Timothy D. Johnson wrote:

 I was given an excerpt with your problem about installing package on
 a MAC, such as Hmisc.

 I had the same problems and found a work around.

 I have not had any trouble loading in source packages since, include
 Hmisc and Design, acepack and vgam.

 First, I downloaded and installed the g77 compiler.

 I use a progam named FINK to find, download and intall g77 (so first I
 installed FINK then from within FINK I downloaded/installed the
 g77 compiler.)
 [SNIP details]

Still seems like simply installing this from this link would be simpler;
FINK is unnecessary. Of course, this is already covered in the OS X FAQ
http://cran.r-project.org/bin/macosx/RAqua-FAQ.html although some
explanation could be added that a Fortran77 compiler might also be needed
for linking other packages.

http://hpc.sf.net/g77v3.4-bin.tar.gz

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Patrick Burns
I'm a big advocate -- perhaps even fanatic -- of  making R easier for
novices in order to spread its use, but I'm not convinced that  a GUI
(at least in the traditional form) is the most valuable approach.
Perhaps an overly harsh summary of some of Ted Harding's statements
is: You can make a truck easier to get into by taking off the wheels, but
that doesn't make it more useful.
In terms of GUIs, I think what R should focus on is the ability for  user's
to make their own specialized GUI.  So that a knowledgeable programmer
at an installation can create a system that is easy for unsophisticated
users for the limited number of tasks that are to be done.  The ultimate
users may not even need to know that R exists.
I think Ted Harding was on  the mark when he said that it is the help
system that needs enhancement.  I can imagine a system that gets the
user to the right function and then helps fill in the arguments; all of the
time pointing them towards the command line rather than away from
it.
The author of the referenced article highlighted some hidden costs of R,
but did not highlight the hidden benefits (because they were hidden from
him).  A big benefit of R is all of the bugs that aren't in it (which may or
may not be due to its free status).
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Burns Statistics
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Jan P. Smit wrote:
Dear Phillippe,
Very interesting. The URL of the article is 
http://www.scientific-computing.com/scwsepoct04free_statistics.html.

Best regards,
Jan Smit
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
Hello,
In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine (issue 78, p. 
22), there
is a review on free statistical software by Felix Grant (doesn't 
have to
pay good money to obtain good statistics software). As far as I 
know, this
is the first time that R is even mentioned in this magazine, given 
that it
usually discuss commercial products.

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[R] summary.lme() vs. anova.lme()

2004-11-17 Thread Dan Bebber
Dear R list:

I modelled changes in a variable (mconc) over time (d) for individuals
(replicate) given one of three treatments (treatment) using:
mconc.lme - lme(mconc~treatment*poly(d,2), random=~poly(d,2)|replicate,
data=my.data)

summary(mconc.lme) shows that the linear coefficient of one of the
treatments is significantly different to zero, viz.
Value Std.Error  DF   t-value p-value
...  ... ...  ...
...
treatmentf:poly(d, 2)1  1.3058562 0.5072409 315  2.574430  0.0105

But anova(mconc.lme) gives a non-significant result for the treatment*time
interaction, viz.
 numDF denDF   F-value p-value
(Intercept)  1   315 159.17267  .0001
treatment239   0.51364  0.6023
poly(d, 2)   2   315  17.43810  .0001
treatment:poly(d, 2) 4   315   2.01592  0.0920

Pinheiro  Bates (2000) only discusses anova() for single arguments briefly
on p.90.
I would like to know whether these results indicate that the significant
effect found in summary(mconc.lme) is spurious (perhaps due to
multiplicity).

Many thanks,
Dan Bebber

Department of Plant Sciences
University of Oxford
South Parks Road
Oxford OX1 3RB
UK
Tel. 01865 275000

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Re: [R] CDs for R?

2004-11-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 08:25:54AM +0200, Jari Oksanen wrote:
 
 On 16 Nov 2004, at 23:39, (Ted Harding) wrote:
 Now comes my suggestion to CRAN maintainer: this all would be easier, 
 if you would produce a CD image file ('iso') that would contain a 
 snapshot of the latest version: main binaries, all contributed 
 packages, and docs. Getting somebody to help downloading this iso would 
 be much easier than trying to collect all first and then make up your 
 own cd image.

It's volunteer effort, so someone actually has to do this. Can you help?

 Actually, only Windows and Mac users need binary versions of packages. 
 The former because they don't have tools to install from source, the 
 latter because they don't know that they have the tools (being command 
 line challenged).
 
 To Dirk Eddelbuettel: Yes indeed, Ubuntu gives human face to Debian and 
 is a much more pleasant experience. However, changing OS for R may be 
 asking too much. Further, Ubuntu/Debian comes with a tiny and biased 
 selection of packages, and if that's not your kind of bias, you have 
 got to go to the Internet again. Further, Ubuntu (and other Linuxes) 

Again, it reflects the interests of the volunteers involved. If you want to
see other things done, come join in and do them.

 lag behind R. The current Ubuntu release comes with R 1.9.1, and it 
 won't be upgraded but in the next release scheduled for April 2005 (and 
 just in the same time as the next R, so that Ubuntu will be one R 
 version off again). I guess the lag is even worse in packages.

This actually requires a response. Here is a quick log (from my mail folder)
about what new packages (of mine, can't speak for others) got uploaded
recently -- in most cases, this is on the day of the source release, so the
lag would be close to zero.

 575 Nov 08 Debian Installe (  20) rpy_0.4.0-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 576 Nov 09 Debian Installe (  14) strucchange_1.2.7-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 577 Nov 11 Debian Installe (  12) cluster_1.9.6-3_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 578 Nov 11 Debian Installe (  12) survival_2.15-2_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 579 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  26) octave2.1_2.1.62-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 580 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  12) cluster_1.9.6-4_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 581 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  14) mgcv_1.1.8-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 582 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  14) tseries_0.9.24-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 583 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  14) lattice_0.10.14-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 584 Nov 12 Debian Installe (  12) mgcv_1.1.8-2_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 585 Nov 13 Debian Installe (  14) dbd-odbc_1.13-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 586 Nov 13 Debian Installe (  14) ole-storage-lite_0.14-1_i386.changes 
ACCEPTED
 587 Nov 13 Debian Installe (  12) semidef-oct_2.2-21_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 588 Nov 14 Debian Installe (  15) wajig_2.0.13-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 589 Nov 14 Debian Installe (  14) sm_2.0.13-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 590 Nov 14 Debian Installe (  12) vr_7.2.10-2_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 591 Nov 15 Debian Installe (  34) r-base_2.0.1-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 592 Nov 15 Debian Installe (  24) gretl_1.3.0-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 593 Nov 16 Debian Installe (  14) survival_2.16-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 594 Nov 17 Debian Installe (  14) wajig_2.0.14-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED
 
I could go back further if you want. 
 
Now, if and when these get pressed into a release by Debian or Ubuntu I do
not control. Which is, I guess, why we're discussing archive snapshots in
this thread. 

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Re: [R] summary.lme() vs. anova.lme()

2004-11-17 Thread Dimitris Rizopoulos
Hi Dan,
check the `type' argument of `anova.lme()' which defaults to 
sequential. This is also discussed in Pinheiro and Bates but I don't 
have the book with me now to trace the page.

I hope it helps.
Best,
Dimitris

Dimitris Rizopoulos
Ph.D. Student
Biostatistical Centre
School of Public Health
Catholic University of Leuven
Address: Kapucijnenvoer 35, Leuven, Belgium
Tel: +32/16/396887
Fax: +32/16/337015
Web: http://www.med.kuleuven.ac.be/biostat
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m0390867/dimitris.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Bebber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: [R] summary.lme() vs. anova.lme()


Dear R list:
I modelled changes in a variable (mconc) over time (d) for 
individuals
(replicate) given one of three treatments (treatment) using:
mconc.lme - lme(mconc~treatment*poly(d,2), 
random=~poly(d,2)|replicate,
data=my.data)

summary(mconc.lme) shows that the linear coefficient of one of the
treatments is significantly different to zero, viz.
   Value Std.Error  DF   t-value p-value
...  ... ...  ...
...
treatmentf:poly(d, 2)1  1.3058562 0.5072409 315  2.574430  0.0105
But anova(mconc.lme) gives a non-significant result for the 
treatment*time
interaction, viz.
numDF denDF   F-value p-value
(Intercept)  1   315 159.17267  .0001
treatment239   0.51364  0.6023
poly(d, 2)   2   315  17.43810  .0001
treatment:poly(d, 2) 4   315   2.01592  0.0920

Pinheiro  Bates (2000) only discusses anova() for single arguments 
briefly
on p.90.
I would like to know whether these results indicate that the 
significant
effect found in summary(mconc.lme) is spurious (perhaps due to
multiplicity).

Many thanks,
Dan Bebber
Department of Plant Sciences
University of Oxford
South Parks Road
Oxford OX1 3RB
UK
Tel. 01865 275000
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[R] Multi-way tables

2004-11-17 Thread assuncao . senra

Hello,
can someone tell me how to extract a partial table from a multiway table?
Something else: I tried to do basic operations on cross-tables, like 
subtracting two cross tables with same dimensions and i was unable to do so. 
Is there another way?

thanks!

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Re: [R] Impossible to run error message when using Sweave

2004-11-17 Thread Douglas Bates
Doran, Harold wrote:
Dear List:
I have a large dataset of multiple schools. My goal is to produce a
separate tex file for each school that plots some of the student
achievement scores. Essentially, the aim is to develop a custom report
for each school. To accomplish this, I have code for a loop that gets
sourced into R and then Sweaves the multiple files to create the
individual school reports.
Here is the code for the loop
schnum.list - as.vector(unique(cmu$schid))
for(current.school in schnum.list) {
school.df - subset(cmu, cmu$schid==current.school)
school.grades - as.vector(unique(school.df$grade))
sname - paste(paste(read, current.school,
sep=),Rnw,sep=.)
system(paste(schoolread.Rnw, paste(Reading/, sname, sep=),
sep= ))
Sweave(file= paste(Reading/, sname, sep=))
}
However, this begins to work and then produces the following errors
Writing to file read151-496-2982.tex
Processing code chunks ...
Error in file(con, r) : unable to open connection
In addition: Warning messages: 
1: Impossible to run 'G:\SWEAVE~1\SCHOOL~2.RNW
Reading/read151-496-2982.Rnw 
2: cannot open file `Reading/read151-496-2982.Rnw' 

I'm not sure exactly what the impossible to run error is. I think this
is on the verge of running correctly, but could use a little help.
Thanks,
Harold
Ver 1.9.0, Windows XP
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[R] Time difference in months? (difftime, units)

2004-11-17 Thread Andy Bunn
Is there a way to calculate the number of months between dates?

StartDate - strptime(01 March 1950, %d %B %Y)
EventDates - strptime(c(01 April 1955, 01 July 1980), %d %B %Y)
difftime(EventDates, StartDate)

So, there are 61 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 April 1955. There are
364 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 July 1980. What I want is for there
to be a months argument to units in difftime. Anybody have a bright idea?
Is there a better way to approach this than difftime?

Thanks in advance, Andy


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Re: [R] CDs for R?

2004-11-17 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 16:54, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 08:25:54AM +0200, Jari Oksanen wrote:
  
  On 16 Nov 2004, at 23:39, (Ted Harding) wrote:
  Now comes my suggestion to CRAN maintainer: this all would be easier, 
  if you would produce a CD image file ('iso') that would contain a 
  snapshot of the latest version: main binaries, all contributed 
  packages, and docs. Getting somebody to help downloading this iso would 
  be much easier than trying to collect all first and then make up your 
  own cd image.
 
 It's volunteer effort, so someone actually has to do this. Can you help?
 
Probably not. Not because I wouldn't be willing, but I may not be
able... 

I have done this a couple of time using wget to build a local subtree
of selected parts of CRAN. Then running mkisofs was pretty simple. I
guess this could be automated pretty easily if you have the repository
already at hand: all you need is mkisofs + info of its targets. However,
I am not that kind of guru.

All this would require that people think this is worthwhile. I think
that the general feeling has been that there is no need for a
R-current.iso snapshot (or the same as a valid Windows name). So this
is an academic issue (suits me).

  
  To Dirk Eddelbuettel: Yes indeed, Ubuntu gives human face to Debian and 
  is a much more pleasant experience. However, changing OS for R may be 
  asking too much. Further, Ubuntu/Debian comes with a tiny and biased 
  selection of packages, and if that's not your kind of bias, you have 
  got to go to the Internet again. Further, Ubuntu (and other Linuxes) 
 
 Again, it reflects the interests of the volunteers involved. If you want to
 see other things done, come join in and do them.
 
I know this is volunteer work, and I do appreciate this volunteer work.
It is all biased -- hence the formulation of your kind of bias. At the
moment I have no idea how to build a deb package of R packages, so I
don't know what to say. 

  lag behind R. The current Ubuntu release comes with R 1.9.1, and it 
  won't be upgraded but in the next release scheduled for April 2005 (and 
  just in the same time as the next R, so that Ubuntu will be one R 
  version off again). I guess the lag is even worse in packages.
 
 This actually requires a response. Here is a quick log (from my mail folder)
 about what new packages (of mine, can't speak for others) got uploaded
 recently -- in most cases, this is on the day of the source release, so the
 lag would be close to zero.
  
 Now, if and when these get pressed into a release by Debian or Ubuntu I do
 not control. Which is, I guess, why we're discussing archive snapshots in
 this thread. 
 
They go, I guess, through a testing period in Debian, and if they don't
wait for anybody else, they may appear in some version of Debian after
that. In Debian repository you typically see much older versions. As to
Ubuntu (that I know a bit better), they will go into next release which
is nearly six months ahead (they are not upgraded in between). 

Actually, Ubuntu is a bad choice if you just want to have R, since R is
not among the core packages, but it is unsupported. Moreover, Ubuntu is
a bad choice for the original problem of slow wires: Even for an
ordinary install you need internet connection, if you want to get beyond
a very rudimentary system. I just forgot this in my previous message:
when you're wired, you think it's natural to be wired. So forget Ubuntu
if you want to have R without fast internet connection. 

I have Ubuntu since it was about the only easily managed powerpc system
I found. At the moment, I have R 2.0.0 built from source distribution
there. Packages are from source files, too. 

Thanks for the good work with Debian!

cheers, jari oksanen
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Re: [R] summary.lme() vs. anova.lme()

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Dan Bebber wrote:
I modelled changes in a variable (mconc) over time (d) for individuals
(replicate) given one of three treatments (treatment) using:
mconc.lme - lme(mconc~treatment*poly(d,2), random=~poly(d,2)|replicate,
data=my.data)
summary(mconc.lme) shows that the linear coefficient of one of the
treatments is significantly different to zero, viz.
   Value Std.Error  DF   t-value p-value
...  ... ...  ...
...
treatmentf:poly(d, 2)1  1.3058562 0.5072409 315  2.574430  0.0105
But anova(mconc.lme) gives a non-significant result for the treatment*time
interaction, viz.
numDF denDF   F-value p-value
(Intercept)  1   315 159.17267  .0001
treatment239   0.51364  0.6023
poly(d, 2)   2   315  17.43810  .0001
treatment:poly(d, 2) 4   315   2.01592  0.0920
Pinheiro  Bates (2000) only discusses anova() for single arguments briefly
on p.90.
I would like to know whether these results indicate that the significant
effect found in summary(mconc.lme) is spurious (perhaps due to
multiplicity).
Probably yes (but p values of 9% and 1% are not that different, and in 
both cases you are looking at a few p values).

But since both summary.lme and anova.lme use Wald tests, I would use a 
LRT, using anova on two fits (and I would use ML fits to get a genuine 
LRT but that is perhaps being cautious).

To  Dimitris Rizopoulos: as this is the last term in the sequential anova, 
it is the correct Wald test.

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RE: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization

2004-11-17 Thread James . Callahan
 SNIP
 SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
 language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
 projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
 of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
 SNIP

Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five.

Gretl   Allin Cottrell, USA
Gnu Regression, Econometrics and Time-series Library
Gretl is hosted on SourceForge.
http://gretl.sourceforge.net/

Gretl is not written in R, but interfaces to  R.
http://gretl.sourceforge.net/gretl_and_R.html
gretl ... is designed as a very user-friendly econometrics package. While 
it is also reasonably sophisticated, it lacks some of the specialized 
statistical methods that a working econometrician might desire.As a way 
around this limitation, gretl offers an interface to the comprehensive 
free-software statistical package, GNU R.

Both RPAd and RMetrics are open-source projects using (and acknowledging 
using) R.
As far as I know, neither is listed on SourceForge.

RPadEPRI (Electric Power Research Institute), USA
http://www.Rpad.org/Rpad/ 
Rpad is an interactive, web-based analysis program. Rpad pages are 
interactive workbook-type sheets based on R, an open-source implementation 
of the S language. Rpad is an analysis package, a web-page designer, and a 
gui designer all wrapped in one. Rpad makes it easy to develop powerful 
data analysis applications that can be shared with others (most likely on 
an intranet). The user doesn't have to install anything--everything's done 
through a browser.

RMetricsDiethelm Wuertz, ETH Zurich, Switzerland
http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/
Rmetrics is the premier open source solution for financial market 
analysis and valuation of financial instruments. With hundreds of 
functions build on modern and powerful methods Rmetrics combines 
explorative data analysis and statistical modeling with object oriented 
rapid prototyping. Rmetrics is embedded in R,
My impression is that many projects on SourceForge have links to home 
pages hosted on other sites -- so I suppose
if the project authors are willing -- they could be cross listed on 
SourceForge.

Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five.

On the other hand, SourceForge's criteria for inclusion appears to be very 
arbitrary.

Objective criteria that would be more relevant to R include:
- R has several active mailing lists (archived for verification)
- The R Project is archived on CRAN (Comprehensive R Archive Network) 
which has more than 20 mirrors on 6 continents:
Africa
Asia
Australia
Europe
North America
South America
- More than a dozen books have been published with either R or S 
mentioned in the title (R is an open-source  implementation of S). For 
example, Introductory Statistics with R is available from major 
booksellers including Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com and even 
Wal-mart.com!

Subjective criteria for inclusion on SourceForge
- R is an implementation of S a language developed at Bell Labs -- the 
organization that developed the C programming language and the Unix 
operating system. Open source implementations of C include the GNU 
Complier Collection (GCC) and open source implementations of Unix include 
GNU Linux. So why not include, the open source implementation of S, GNU R?

- R is respected in the statistical community. There are awards and 
articles that could be cited. A personal story -- in the early 1990s I 
attended an American Statistical Association meeting in San Francisco. I 
saw then that the topnotch statisticians, people like Frank Harrell -- 
whose short course on Regression I attended, were maxing out SAS and 
switching to S. I heard about StatLib at Carnegie Mellon and contributed 
code. At the time, the institution I was working for was committed to SAS 
and SPSS and would not have been open to spending more on S. But, years 
latter I was delighted to learn that there was an open source 
implementation S, R and that it was available at StatLib, which now is a 
mirror for the worldwide CRAN mirror sites.

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:09, Witold Eryk Wolski wrote:
 Hi R-Users and Developers,
 
 Several months ago I made a request on Sourceforge to add the R/S - 
 programming language to the _Trove_ categorization. (The Trove is a 
 means to convey basic metainformation about your project.)
 
 Today I got the following response of one of the sourceforge admins.
 
 SNIP
 
 SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
 language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
 projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
 of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
 SNIP
 
 
 If anyone of you knew about R-packages, or projects using the R/S 
programming language, which are hosted on sourceforge, please reply to 
this thread. I hope that your answers will enable me to give more then 5 
examples of R projects hosted on 

Re: [R] Time difference in months? (difftime, units)

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Andy Bunn wrote:
Is there a way to calculate the number of months between dates?
StartDate - strptime(01 March 1950, %d %B %Y)
EventDates - strptime(c(01 April 1955, 01 July 1980), %d %B %Y)
difftime(EventDates, StartDate)
So, there are 61 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 April 1955. There are
364 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 July 1980. What I want is for there
to be a months argument to units in difftime. Anybody have a bright idea?
Ah, but months are of variable length.
Is there a better way to approach this than difftime?
Pretty easy: convert to POSIXlt, then use something like
12*x$year + x$month
and subtract those.  You could set up a class for months and have 
as.months and a `-' method 

Thanks in advance, Andy

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Re: [R] Re: variations on the theme of survSplit

2004-11-17 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, David Duffy wrote:
Danardono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While waiting for 2.1, for those who need function[s] for this
survival-splitting business, as I do,   this 'survcut' function below
might be helpful.
You don't need to wait for 2.1.  survival_2.16 is available on CRAN.
-thomas

It is not an elegant nor efficient function but it works, at least for
some examples below.
Ditto the following, for the case where there are multiple time-varying
(irreversible) binary covariates, here slicing as coarsely as possible.
#
# Create dataset for survival analysis with time-dependent covariate
# Gill-Anderson model
#
x - data.frame(onset=c(46, 32, 53, 76, 64, 43),
   case=c(1,1,1,0,0,0),
   ooph=c(NA, 30, 38, 50, NA, NA),
   ocp=c(1,1,0,0,1,0),
   parity=c(2,0,1,3,3,2),
   age.preg=c(28,NA,27,20,22,23))
make.dep - function(onset, case, time.dep, covs=NULL) {
 if (is.null(n.time.dep - ncol(time.dep))) {
   if (!is.null(time.dep)) {
 n.time.dep - 1
 time.dep - as.matrix(time.dep)
   }else{
 n.time.dep - 0
 warning(No time dependent covariates)
   }
 }
 if (is.null(n.covs - ncol(covs))) {
   if (!is.null(covs)) {
 n.covs - 1
 covs - as.matrix(covs)
   }else{
 n.covs - 0
   }
 }
 ordered.t - t(apply(cbind(onset,time.dep),1,sort,na.last=TRUE))
 tot.time.dep - apply(ordered.t,1,function(x) sum(!is.na(x)))
 ordered.t - cbind(rep(0, nrow(ordered.t)), ordered.t)
 npars - 4+n.time.dep+n.covs
 nrecs - sum(tot.time.dep)
 new.x - as.data.frame(matrix(nr=nrecs, nc=npars))
 names(new.x) - c(start, stop, event, 
names(time.dep),names(covs),episode)
 this.rec-0
 for(i in 1:length(onset)) {
   for(j in 1:tot.time.dep[i]) {
 this.rec - this.rec+1
 new.x[this.rec,1] - ordered.t[i, j]
 new.x[this.rec,2] - ordered.t[i, j+1]
 new.x[this.rec,3] - 0
 new.x[this.rec,4:(3+n.time.dep)] - (ordered.t[i,j]=time.dep[i,])
 missing - is.na(new.x[this.rec,])
 new.x[this.rec,missing] - 0
 if (n.covs0) {
   new.x[this.rec, (4+n.time.dep):(4+n.time.dep+n.covs)] - covs[i,]
 }
 new.x[this.rec, npars]-paste(i,j,sep=.)
   }
   new.x[this.rec,3]-case[i]
 }
 new.x
}
David Duffy.
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[R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Apoian, Zack
Say you have a vector named x and a function which returns the character
string x .  How would I take x as an input and return the vector x?


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Re: [R] violinplot options

2004-11-17 Thread Tim F Liao
Uwe is right.  You can add titles quite easily.  
Specifically, you can use title(main=...,ylab=...) and 
that will do the trick after you have used vioplot to do the 
plot.

Tim Liao

 Original message 
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:55:33 +0100
From: Uwe Ligges [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: [R] violinplot options  
To: Tanja Zseby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tanja Zseby wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am using the function  vioplot() to generate violin 
plots. Now I would 
 like to add a label to the y axix and a title to the 
diagram.
 Just setting ylab didnt work. Is it possible to set such 
options for the 
 function ?
 I tried also with the function simple.violinplot, but 
also with this I 
 couldnt set the options.
 
 Kind Regards
 Tanja

Looks like nobody else has responded so far.
If you are talking about the function in the package also 
called 
vioplot: The function is not very well designed. But 
since there is 
not much code in it, it is quite easy to add additional 
functionality 
yourself by adapting the whole function.

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Re: [R] Time difference in months? (difftime, units)

2004-11-17 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Andy Bunn abunn at whrc.org writes:

: 
: Is there a way to calculate the number of months between dates?
: 
: StartDate - strptime(01 March 1950, %d %B %Y)
: EventDates - strptime(c(01 April 1955, 01 July 1980), %d %B %Y)
: difftime(EventDates, StartDate)
: 
: So, there are 61 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 April 1955. There are
: 364 months between 01 March 1950 and 01 July 1980. What I want is for there
: to be a months argument to units in difftime. Anybody have a bright idea?
: Is there a better way to approach this than difftime?

1. There are an average of 365.25/12 days per month so the following
expression gives the number of months between d1 and d2:

   # test data
   d1 - as.Date(01 March 1950, %d %B %Y)
   d2 - as.Date(c(01 April 1955, 01 July 1980), %d %B %Y)

   # calculation
   round((d2 - d1)/(365.25/12))

2. Another possibility is to get the length of seq.Dates like this:

   as.Date.numeric - function(x) structure(floor(x+.001), class = Date)
   sapply(d2, function(d2) length(seq(d1, as.Date(d2), by = month)))-1

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RE: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Berton Gunter
All:

I have much enjoyed the discussion. Thanks to all who have contibuted.

Two quick comments:

1. The problem of designing a GUI to make R's functionality more accessible
is, I believe just one component of the larger issue of making
statistical/data analysis functionality available to those who need to use
it but do not have sufficient understanding and background to do so
properly. I certainly include myself in this category in many circumstances.
A willingness and commitment to learning ( = hard work!) is the only
rational solution here, and saying that one doesn't have the time really
doesn't cut it for me. Ditto for R language functionality?

2. However, R has many attractive features for data manipulation and
graphics that make it attractive for common tasks that are now done most
frequently with (ugh!) Excel (NOT Statistica, Systat, et. al.). For this
subset of R's functionality a GUI would be attractive. However, writing a
good GUI for graphing that even begins to take advantage of R's flexibility
and power in this arena is an enormous -- perhaps an impossible -- task.
Witness the S-Plus graphics GUI, which I think is truly awful (and appears
to thwart more than it helps, at least from many of the queries one sees on
that news list). So I'm not sanguine.

Again, thanks to all for a thoughful and enjoyable discussion.

-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
 
The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Burns
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:28 AM
 To: Jan P. Smit
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Philippe Grosjean; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?
 
 I'm a big advocate -- perhaps even fanatic -- of  making R easier for
 novices in order to spread its use, but I'm not convinced that  a GUI
 (at least in the traditional form) is the most valuable approach.
 
 Perhaps an overly harsh summary of some of Ted Harding's statements
 is: You can make a truck easier to get into by taking off the 
 wheels, but
 that doesn't make it more useful.
 
 In terms of GUIs, I think what R should focus on is the 
 ability for  user's
 to make their own specialized GUI.  So that a knowledgeable programmer
 at an installation can create a system that is easy for 
 unsophisticated
 users for the limited number of tasks that are to be done.  
 The ultimate
 users may not even need to know that R exists.
 
 I think Ted Harding was on  the mark when he said that it is the help
 system that needs enhancement.  I can imagine a system that gets the
 user to the right function and then helps fill in the 
 arguments; all of the
 time pointing them towards the command line rather than away from
 it.
 
 The author of the referenced article highlighted some hidden 
 costs of R,
 but did not highlight the hidden benefits (because they were 
 hidden from
 him).  A big benefit of R is all of the bugs that aren't in 
 it (which may or
 may not be due to its free status).
 
 Patrick Burns
 
 Burns Statistics
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 +44 (0)20 8525 0696
 http://www.burns-stat.com
 (home of S Poetry and A Guide for the Unwilling S User)
 
 Jan P. Smit wrote:
 
  Dear Phillippe,
 
  Very interesting. The URL of the article is 
  http://www.scientific-computing.com/scwsepoct04free_statistics.html.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Jan Smit
 
 
  Philippe Grosjean wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine (issue 78, p. 
  22), there
  is a review on free statistical software by Felix Grant (doesn't 
  have to
  pay good money to obtain good statistics software). As far as I 
  know, this
  is the first time that R is even mentioned in this magazine, given 
  that it
  usually discuss commercial products.
 
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Re: [R] frailty and time-dependent covariate

2004-11-17 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Emanuela Rossi wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to estimate a cox model with a frailty variable and 
time-dependent covariate (below there is the statement I use and the 
error message). It's seems to be impossible, because every time I add 
the time-dependent covariate the model doesn't converge. Instead, if I 
estimate the same model without the time-dependent covariate it's 
converge. I'd like knowing if it's a statistical problem due to the 
model formula or if it could be a problem related to my data.
The message you quote probably does not indicate a convergence problem, 
since it is only in iterations 1 3.

Howver, there does seem to be a bug with interactions of any sort in 
frailty models, something connected with reordering terms.  You could try 
defining a variable by hand for your interaction term and fitting the 
model that way.

Incidentally, I am not nearly as enthusiastic about the frailty models as 
many users seem to be.  For most multivariate survival problems I 
wouldn't want to fit a frailty model, and I'm not sure that I would trust 
the penalised likelihood approximation if I did.   The exception would be 
situations where I was actually interested in the variance components, as 
in Dr Therneau's new kinship package for linkage analysis with survival 
data.

-thomas

Thanks a lot
Emanuela Rossi

fit_19_1-coxph(Surv(DATA_INI1,DATA_FIN1,EVENT1)~ 
V1+V2+alt1+alt2+strata(autocorr1)+cap1+SP+SP2+SP3+SP3:log(DATA_FIN1)+D1500+D3000+D4500+frailty.gaussian(ID),data=SURV1)
Warning messages:
1: Inner loop failed to coverge for iterations 1 3 in: coxpenal.fit(X, Y, 
strats, offset, init = init, control, weights = weights,
2: longer object length
   is not a multiple of shorter object length in: offset + coxfit$fcoef[x[, 
fcol]]
3: X matrix deemed to be singular; variable 8 in: coxph(Surv(DATA_INI1, 
DATA_FIN1, EVENT1) ~ V1 + V2 + alt1 + alt2 +
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[R] Re: referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Vito Ricci
Hi,

see ? as.numeric

as.numeric(c(-.1, 2.7 ,-1.5))
[1] -0.1  2.7 -1.5

you wrote:

Say you have a vector named x and a function which
returns the character
string x .  How would I take x as an input and
return the vector x?

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[R] Importing data from SPSS

2004-11-17 Thread Arin Basu
  

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:49:45 -0800 (PST)
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Hi,
I was wondering as to how I could convert SPSS data imported to R into tabular 
form. In the sense, direct usage of read.table( ) doesnt help.

Thanks

Hi Gauri:

There are several ways of doing that. Easiest in my opinion is to save the SPSS 
data into txt, or csv file and read it directly into R using read.table() 
function to read the txt or csv data. See ?read.table for more information, or 
read the data input output section of the user manual. The second way is to use 
library(foreign) and then read the data directly using read.spss. For more 
information, do library(foreign) and then ?read.spss

Hope this helps,
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Re: [R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Dimitris Rizopoulos
get(x) see also r-FAQ 7.21
Best,
Dimitris

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Re: [R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Arne Henningsen
get is your friend:

R x - c( 1, 2, 3 )
R get( x )
[1] 1 2 3

All the best,
Arne

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RE: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization - GDAL

2004-11-17 Thread James . Callahan
GDAL Package for R
http://sourceforge.net/projects/rgdal
The R GDAL package is an interface for accessing Frank Warmerdam's 
Geographic Data Abstraction Library
 from within R. 
GDAL is capable of reading and writing a wide range of geographic data 
formats including ESRI grid format and geotiff.

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:09, Witold Eryk Wolski wrote:
 SNIP
 SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
 language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
 projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
 of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
 SNIP 

Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five. 
GDAL Package for R, makes six.


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Re: [R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Seth Falcon
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 10:48:46AM -0500, Apoian, Zack wrote:
 Say you have a vector named x and a function which returns the character
 string x .  How would I take x as an input and return the vector x?

get(x)

See ?get.  You may also be interested in ?assign.

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RE: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization - GDAL

2004-11-17 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Just a small correction. FLR and FSAp are not _my_ packages :-) 

For FLR there's a team working on its development.

Regards

EJ

ps: my fault anyway, the first message was not clear.

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 http://sourceforge.net/projects/rgdal
 The R GDAL package is an interface for accessing Frank Warmerdam's
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  from within R. 
 GDAL is capable of reading and writing a wide range of geographic data
 formats including ESRI grid format and geotiff.
 
 On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:09, Witold Eryk Wolski wrote:
  SNIP
  SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
  language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
  projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
  of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
  SNIP
 
 Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five.
 GDAL Package for R, makes six.
 
 
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Re: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization

2004-11-17 Thread Kjetil Brinchmann Halvorsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
SNIP
   

Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five. 
 

Then you can also add nlmeODE:
http://nlmeode.sourceforge.net/
Gretl   Allin Cottrell, USA
Gnu Regression, Econometrics and Time-series Library
Gretl is hosted on SourceForge.
http://gretl.sourceforge.net/
Gretl is not written in R, but interfaces to  R.
http://gretl.sourceforge.net/gretl_and_R.html
gretl ... is designed as a very user-friendly econometrics package. While 
it is also reasonably sophisticated, it lacks some of the specialized 
statistical methods that a working econometrician might desire.As a way 
around this limitation, gretl offers an interface to the comprehensive 
free-software statistical package, GNU R.

Both RPAd and RMetrics are open-source projects using (and acknowledging 
using) R.
As far as I know, neither is listed on SourceForge.

RPadEPRI (Electric Power Research Institute), USA
http://www.Rpad.org/Rpad/ 
Rpad is an interactive, web-based analysis program. Rpad pages are 
interactive workbook-type sheets based on R, an open-source implementation 
of the S language. Rpad is an analysis package, a web-page designer, and a 
gui designer all wrapped in one. Rpad makes it easy to develop powerful 
data analysis applications that can be shared with others (most likely on 
an intranet). The user doesn't have to install anything--everything's done 
through a browser.

RMetricsDiethelm Wuertz, ETH Zurich, Switzerland
http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/
Rmetrics is the premier open source solution for financial market 
analysis and valuation of financial instruments. With hundreds of 
functions build on modern and powerful methods Rmetrics combines 
explorative data analysis and statistical modeling with object oriented 
rapid prototyping. Rmetrics is embedded in R,
My impression is that many projects on SourceForge have links to home 
pages hosted on other sites -- so I suppose
if the project authors are willing -- they could be cross listed on 
SourceForge.

Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five.
On the other hand, SourceForge's criteria for inclusion appears to be very 
arbitrary.

Objective criteria that would be more relevant to R include:
- R has several active mailing lists (archived for verification)
- The R Project is archived on CRAN (Comprehensive R Archive Network) 
which has more than 20 mirrors on 6 continents:
Africa
Asia
Australia
Europe
North America
South America
- More than a dozen books have been published with either R or S 
mentioned in the title (R is an open-source  implementation of S). For 
example, Introductory Statistics with R is available from major 
booksellers including Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com and even 
Wal-mart.com!

Subjective criteria for inclusion on SourceForge
- R is an implementation of S a language developed at Bell Labs -- the 
organization that developed the C programming language and the Unix 
operating system. Open source implementations of C include the GNU 
Complier Collection (GCC) and open source implementations of Unix include 
GNU Linux. So why not include, the open source implementation of S, GNU R?

- R is respected in the statistical community. There are awards and 
articles that could be cited. A personal story -- in the early 1990s I 
attended an American Statistical Association meeting in San Francisco. I 
saw then that the topnotch statisticians, people like Frank Harrell -- 
whose short course on Regression I attended, were maxing out SAS and 
switching to S. I heard about StatLib at Carnegie Mellon and contributed 
code. At the time, the institution I was working for was committed to SAS 
and SPSS and would not have been open to spending more on S. But, years 
latter I was delighted to learn that there was an open source 
implementation S, R and that it was available at StatLib, which now is a 
mirror for the worldwide CRAN mirror sites.

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:09, Witold Eryk Wolski wrote:
 

Hi R-Users and Developers,
Several months ago I made a request on Sourceforge to add the R/S - 
programming language to the _Trove_ categorization. (The Trove is a 
means to convey basic metainformation about your project.)

Today I got the following response of one of the sourceforge admins.
SNIP
SourceForge.net will consider the inclusion of a programming
language within the Trove system when we host at least 5
projects based on that language.  Please advise: Do you know
of 5 projects hosted on SourceForge.net based on this language?
SNIP
If anyone of you knew about R-packages, or projects using the R/S 
   

programming language, which are hosted on sourceforge, please reply to 
this thread. I hope that your answers 

RE: [R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Liaw, Andy
Can you give some hypothetical code on what you want to do?  Does get() do
what you want:

 dog - Spot
 f - function(x) get(x)
 f(dog)
[1] Spot

?

Andy

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 the character
 string x .  How would I take x as an input and return the 
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Re: [R] referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 10:48 -0500, Apoian, Zack wrote:
 Say you have a vector named x and a function which returns the character
 string x .  How would I take x as an input and return the vector x?


If I am understanding you correctly:

x - 1:10

 x
 [1]  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10

x.char - x

 get(x.char)
 [1]  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10


See ?get for more information.

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

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Re: [R] Re: referencing values of strings

2004-11-17 Thread Douglas Bates
Vito Ricci wrote:
Hi,
see ? as.numeric
as.numeric(c(-.1, 2.7 ,-1.5))
[1] -0.1  2.7 -1.5
you wrote:
Say you have a vector named x and a function which
returns the character
string x .  How would I take x as an input and
return the vector x?
I think the question might have been about obtaining the value of the 
symbol x, in which case the answer is

get(x)
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[R] dotchart background color

2004-11-17 Thread Dean Sonneborn
I'm creating a dotchart but the background color is gray. In fact, when 
ever I use the Lattice package the background is gray, which prints as 
black on my non-color printer. How do I change the background color to 
white? I'm also plotting two groups and would like to use circles and 
triangles as the plot characters.

Thanks
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[R] (no subject)

2004-11-17 Thread Angela Re
Good evening,
I'm going to use R to calculate the P-value for Pearson coefficient. 
Does it exist an already defined function?How can I do?Thanks for 
helping me.
Angela

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Re: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization - GDAL

2004-11-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 11:52:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five. 

Isn't RMetrics at rmetrics.org at the ETH in Zuerich, CH?

 GDAL Package for R, makes six.

Add RPy (rpy.sf.net) to make seven (or six, if remove RMetrics). Gretl is a
tad marginal, though.

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Re: [R] Multi-way tables

2004-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
 ?apply
 hope this helps.  spencer graves
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can someone tell me how to extract a partial table from a multiway table?
Something else: I tried to do basic operations on cross-tables, like 
subtracting two cross tables with same dimensions and i was unable to do so. 
Is there another way?

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
 I agree with Bert.  Thanks to all who contributed.  I'd like to 
add one comment I didn't see in the thread so far: 

 The corporate legal where I work is deathly afraid of the GNU 
General Public License (GPL), because if we touch GPL software 
inappropriately with our commercial software, our copyrights are 
replaced by the GPL.  This in turn means we can't charge royalties, 
which means we can't repay the investors who covered our initial 
development costs, and we file for bankruptcy.  The rabid capitalists 
meet the rabid socialists and walk away, shaking their heads.  (Sec. 2.b 
of the GPL:  You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, 
that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any 
part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third 
parties under the terms of this License.  We can get around this by 
packaging accesses to GPL software as separately installed add-on(s), 
because then only the add-on(s) would be covered by the GPL.)  Our 
corporate legal is more concerned about a possible law suit from a 
possible competitor than from the R Foundation, but the threat is still 
real and still being adjudicated in other cases. 

 If the GPL were not so tight on this point, someone could 
commercialize a GUI for R without having to offer their source code 
under the GPL. 

 However, even without this change, R seems to be the platform of 
choice for new statistical algorithm development by a growing portion of 
the international scientific community.  Moreover, from my experience 
with this listserve, the technical support here is far superior to 
anything I've experienced with any other software in the 40+ years since 
I wrote my first Fortran code. 

 Best Wishes,
 spencer graves
Berton Gunter wrote:
All:
I have much enjoyed the discussion. Thanks to all who have contibuted.
Two quick comments:
1. The problem of designing a GUI to make R's functionality more accessible
is, I believe just one component of the larger issue of making
statistical/data analysis functionality available to those who need to use
it but do not have sufficient understanding and background to do so
properly. I certainly include myself in this category in many circumstances.
A willingness and commitment to learning ( = hard work!) is the only
rational solution here, and saying that one doesn't have the time really
doesn't cut it for me. Ditto for R language functionality?
2. However, R has many attractive features for data manipulation and
graphics that make it attractive for common tasks that are now done most
frequently with (ugh!) Excel (NOT Statistica, Systat, et. al.). For this
subset of R's functionality a GUI would be attractive. However, writing a
good GUI for graphing that even begins to take advantage of R's flexibility
and power in this arena is an enormous -- perhaps an impossible -- task.
Witness the S-Plus graphics GUI, which I think is truly awful (and appears
to thwart more than it helps, at least from many of the queries one sees on
that news list). So I'm not sanguine.
Again, thanks to all for a thoughful and enjoyable discussion.
-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
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process.  - George E. P. Box

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:28 AM
To: Jan P. Smit
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Subject: Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

I'm a big advocate -- perhaps even fanatic -- of  making R easier for
novices in order to spread its use, but I'm not convinced that  a GUI
(at least in the traditional form) is the most valuable approach.
Perhaps an overly harsh summary of some of Ted Harding's statements
is: You can make a truck easier to get into by taking off the 
wheels, but
that doesn't make it more useful.

In terms of GUIs, I think what R should focus on is the 
ability for  user's
to make their own specialized GUI.  So that a knowledgeable programmer
at an installation can create a system that is easy for 
unsophisticated
users for the limited number of tasks that are to be done.  
The ultimate
users may not even need to know that R exists.

I think Ted Harding was on  the mark when he said that it is the help
system that needs enhancement.  I can imagine a system that gets the
user to the right function and then helps fill in the 
arguments; all of the
time pointing them towards the command line rather than away from
it.

The author of the referenced article highlighted some hidden 
costs of R,
but did not highlight the hidden benefits (because they were 
hidden from
him).  A big benefit of R is all of the bugs that aren't in 
it (which may or
may not be due to its free status).

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Re: [R] beginner's problem in displaying large data

2004-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
	  Are you sure you are only getting the last 5 columns, rows 1723:2200? 
 There isn't a scroll bar some place?

  What do you get from the following?
 (tst - data.frame(array(rnorm(500), dim=c(500, 6
	  This should come in 2 sets of 500 rows, the first with 5 columns, the 
second with only 1.  If what you said earlier is accurate, I would guess 
that when this is done, the screen would display rows 23:500 of column 
6.  Is this what you get?

	  If you still have troubles, check ?sink, pipe the output to a text 
file file, and look at the file with some other application, e.g.:

  sink(huh.txt)
  (tst - data.frame(array(rnorm(500), dim=c(500, 6
  sink()
  hope this helps.
  spencer graves
Terry Mu wrote:
Dear Spencer,

Thank you for your comment.

 1.  Did you try dim(sample.data)?  Is it actually 2200 by 15?
Or are you reading in just some subset of the data?  If it is 2200 by
15, could you also please do class(sample.data)?


Yes, dim() gives the number.
class(sample.data) gives data.frame


 2.  I just got a full listing from the following:

 (tst - data.frame(array(rnorm(2200), dim=c(2200, 15

 You might try this.  With R 2.0.0patched under Windows 2000, I got
rows 1:2200 flying by 3 times, each with 5 columns.


I tried this, did not get full listing. What I got was last 5 columns
from 1723. I am using R 2.0.0 under Windows 2000.


 3.  Have you considered doing plots (including qqnorm) of numeric
variables and tables of character variables?  These can often reveal
problems I might never see in a simple scan of numbers.


They are all numbers.

 4.  PLEASE do read the posting guide!
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html;.  At minimum, please tell
us which version of R under which operating system, and specifically
what you did to get it into R and how you know it's 2200 by 15.


Sorry about that.

Thanks,
Terry Mu


Terry Mu wrote:

I got a sample data (let's call it sample.data), which is about 2200 
by 15.

I tried to take a look of all data



sample.data


It shows only a part of data that I thought was a corner. It does not
really affect my job, but I thought it is nice to have a look of all
data. I can see individual records and they are fine.

Is this normal because of buffer size or some reasons? Can I use other
commands or change some settings to display all data?

Thanks,
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Re: [R] (no subject)

2004-11-17 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 19:20 +0100, Angela Re wrote:
 Good evening,
 I'm going to use R to calculate the P-value for Pearson coefficient. 
 Does it exist an already defined function?How can I do?Thanks for 
 helping me.
 Angela


help.search(Pearson) shows you:

...
cor.test(stats)  Test for Association/Correlation Between
 Paired Samples
...


See ?cor.test

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

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Re: [R] dotchart background color

2004-11-17 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 12:09, Dean Sonneborn wrote:
 I'm creating a dotchart but the background color is gray. In fact,
 when ever I use the Lattice package the background is gray, which
 prints as black on my non-color printer. How do I change the
 background color to white? 

See ?trellis.device. Note that if you want to print stuff, you should 
use the postscript or pdf device, in which case you should 
automatically get what you want.

 I'm also plotting two groups and would 
 like to use circles and triangles as the plot characters.

If you are unhappy with what you get after reading ?trellis.device, you 
could supply the pch, e.g.

dotplot(..., pch = 1:2)

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Re: [R] Pearson coefficient p value (was: no subject)

2004-11-17 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 13:12 -0600, Marc Schwartz wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 19:20 +0100, Angela Re wrote:
  Good evening,
  I'm going to use R to calculate the P-value for Pearson coefficient. 
  Does it exist an already defined function?How can I do?Thanks for 
  helping me.
  Angela
 
 
 help.search(Pearson) shows you:
 
 ...
 cor.test(stats)  Test for Association/Correlation Between
  Paired Samples
 ...
 
 
 See ?cor.test
 
 HTH,
 
 Marc Schwartz


Ack.  Too quick on the send key.


Please also use a sensible Subject for your posts. It helps others when
searching the list archives, among other things.

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[R] Course R/S+ December 2004 in San Francisco

2004-11-17 Thread elvis
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[R] need help on R

2004-11-17 Thread Kamala Thomas
Hi,

I am working on a modeling project for PMI-Australia and interested in
using R, especially POLYMARS or PLYCLASS. I use SAS /PC on WINDOWS for
the statistical analyses including Modeling. I got R downloaded to the
system but can't figure out how to interface with SAS so that I could
use SAS datasets already in place. 
Also I could not find POLYMARS on the library packages. I need to know
which library has POLYMARS in it.

Could you please help me with these issues?.

I got your e-mail address from 'Other Resources' section and if I am not
addressing the correct person could you please forward this to the right
address and let me know?.

I appreciate your support in this regard.

Thanks

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[R] 3d scatter plot with drop line

2004-11-17 Thread Joel Bremson
This is a follow up to my question from yesterday. I want to do in R
what is called a 3d scatter plot with drop lines in S-PLUS.

Basically, it's a 3dscatterplot with lines connecting the x-y grid to
the z points.
The lines give a better perspective on the shape of the data surface.

How to?

Joel Bremson
UC Davis Statistics

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Re: [R] R/S-related projects on Sourceforge? Trove Categorization -GDAL

2004-11-17 Thread Roger Bivand
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 11:52:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gretl, RPad and RMetrics, plus Ernesto's FLR and  fsap make five. 
 
 Isn't RMetrics at rmetrics.org at the ETH in Zuerich, CH?
 
  GDAL Package for R, makes six.
 
 Add RPy (rpy.sf.net) to make seven (or six, if remove RMetrics). Gretl is a
 tad marginal, though.
 

I'm losing count, rgdal was already mentioned, but I haven't seen:

r-spatial: An R-package for dealing with spatial data in S (R or S-PLUS); 
this package should provide classes and methods for spatial data (points, 
lines, polygons, grids) that can be relied upon by other packages that use 
spatial data.

rarcinfo: RArcInfo is a package for R (http://www.r-project.org) to import 
data from binary Arc/Info V7.X coverages and E00 files . This will allow R 
users to used it as a primary GIS tool.

Roger


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Re: [R] need help on R

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Kamala Thomas wrote:
I am working on a modeling project for PMI-Australia and interested in
using R, especially POLYMARS or PLYCLASS. I use SAS /PC on WINDOWS for
the statistical analyses including Modeling. I got R downloaded to the
system but can't figure out how to interface with SAS so that I could
use SAS datasets already in place.
Please read the `R Data Import/Export' manual.
Also I could not find POLYMARS on the library packages. I need to know
which library has POLYMARS in it.
Unlike SAS, R does not SHOUT all the time.
Function polymars is in package 'polspline', as is polyclass, both thanks 
to Dr Kooperberg.

Could you please help me with these issues?.
I got your e-mail address from 'Other Resources' section and if I am not
addressing the correct person could you please forward this to the right
address and let me know?.
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[R] bioassay, excel

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas Betz

Dear all,

iis there literature about application of R in bioassay and HTS around or does 
anybody experience using R in these areas. Is there any documentation on Excel 
XP/R interface around, where the use of the com server is described. My Rserver 
can not be started.

Andreas

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Re: [R] CDs for R?

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Harding
Thanks to everyone who joined in the discussion about
this and made comments or suggestions.

Special thanks too to those who mailed me off-list
with further suggestions, and offers to help me privately.
I'm appreciative of the latter, and may take up some
offers, but I hope it was clear originally that I was
raising the issue as one which might affect several
people and perhaps justify making some special provision
which would ease the situation.


The most positive general suggestion, I thought, came from
Jari Oksanen:

On 17-Nov-04 Jari Oksanen wrote:
 [...]
 5 CDs sounds 4 too many. I once burnt CDs for my students,
 and they fitted nicely in one CD (Windows binaries, all
 packages as Windows binaries and sources, contributed
 documents).  I guess you can fit Windows, Mac and some
 Linux binaries all in one CD.
 
 Now comes my suggestion to CRAN maintainer: this all would
 be easier, if you would produce a CD image file ('iso') that
 would contain a snapshot of the latest version: main binaries,
 all contributed packages, and docs. Getting somebody to help
 downloading this iso would be much easier than trying to
 collect all first and then make up your own cd image.

This would provide a ready target for people who need to ask
someone else to do the job for them. It's much easier to
specify download the ISO image from the following URL and
burn me a CD then to hope that a possibly ill-specified
'wget' would produce the desired result (as happened when
Linux Emporium did me a CD: it was mostly there, but there
were gaps and some things I hadn't wanted).

So I'd like to back Jari's proposal for an ISO image to be
planted on CRAN as a separate file with its own unique URL.
Exactly what its content should be may still be discussable,
but I would be satisfied with full sources and documentation
for R base and all contributed packages (maybe the Newsletter
would also be handy).


I was also interested in Dirk Edelbuettel's suggestion related
to Quantian:

On 17-Nov-04 Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
 I'll cc this reply to Mark Walker. His shop, budgetlinuxcds.com /
 blcds.com, is one of the resellers of my Quantian 'scientific /
 cluster-computing workstation on a bootable dvd' Linux
 distribution / environment
 (see http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian for more on this).
 
 Mark has been consistently responsive while offering a low-cost
 cd/dvd service (of which I receive no cut, in case you're
 wondering about disclaimers).  I think he'd be happy to add
 regular snapshots of certain portions of
 http://cran.r-project.org/src/ , maybe for the sources and/or
 windows binaries, for his failry reasonable fees. 

Since Mark would need a specification of what to download
and burn, this could pehaps be a convenient primary source of
burned CDs derived from the proposed CRAN ISO.


I also liked David Whiting's suggestion of R buddies who
would be willing to provide CDs for cost + postage to people.
Though I am (for obvious reasons) not in a position to
download and burn the CD in the first place, I'd be happy
to join in, and help coordinate and distribute (once someone
has sent me a CD, it's then straightforward to produce more
copies and mail these on, though like David I don't have
industrial strength hardware and would only be able to
do it on a small scale -- but that reinforces the case for
a group of buddies who could share the load!):

On 16-Nov-04 David Whiting wrote:
 [...]
 I have been in a similar situation a fair bit in the past
 and understand your position. Now I'm back in the UK and
 have a reasonably fast broadband connection at home I'd be
 willing to help out now and then. I guess that to make this
 work more generally we would need to work out how to make
 sure that only the CDs get burned and not the prospective
 customer or supplier. 
 
 As for charges, I think I'd only be interested in covering
 costs of the CDs and postage. I don't have industrial
 strength hardware so I could not get into mass production.
 
 Perhaps we could establish informal groups of R buddies
 where, for example, I help you and a small number of other
 people out each time there is an update and we establish
 some kind of trust between ourselves, rather than new people
 coming to me each time. People could sign up to be suppliers
 and be allocated or choose a group of people they provide the
 service to.
 
 I would feel comfortable with something like this working for
 people who have been on the R-help list for a while and have
 some recgonised identity, and something to lose in terms of
 reputation if they take advantage. But, it is possible that
 new users might need it the most and, by definition, we might
 not feel comfortable dealing with new people.

This suggestion could conveniently be linked with the suggestion
for ISO on CRAN.


On a final point:

On 16-Nov-04 Adaikalavan Ramasamy wrote:
 [...]
 But the real question is that if there are enough people on
 slow connection that are interested in obtaining R.

Well, 

RE: [R] (no subject)

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Harding
On 17-Nov-04 Angela Re wrote:
 Good evening,
 I'm going to use R to calculate the P-value for Pearson coefficient. 
 Does it exist an already defined function?How can I do?Thanks for 
 helping me.
 Angela

cor.test is what you need (according to your statement).
The Pearson correlation is the default coefficient.

Example:

  u-rnorm(10);v-rnorm(10);X-u+v;Y-v;
  cor.test(X,Y)

  Pearson's product-moment correlation

  data:  X and Y 
  t = 2.9483, df = 8, p-value = 0.01847
  alternative hypothesis: true correlation is not equal to 0 
  95 percent confidence interval:
   0.1686027 0.9291072 
  sample estimates:
cor 
  0.7216238 

enter

  ?cor.test

for details of the various different ways of using this function.

Hoping this helps,
Ted.



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[R] AYUDA

2004-11-17 Thread Brian pfeng
Hola, necesito informacion sobre como aplicar un
modelo espacio estado y filtro de kalman en R. Soy
nuevo en R.

Gracias

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Mike Prager
This has been an interesting discussion. I make the following comment with 
hesitation, since I have neither the time nor the ability to implement it 
myself.

Using CLI software, an infrequent user has trouble remembering the known 
functions needed and trouble finding new ones (especially as that user gets 
older).  What might help is an added help facility more oriented towards 
tasks, rather than structured around functions or packages.

Such a help facility might have a tree structure.
Want help?  Are you looking for information on (1) data manipulation or (2) 
analysis?  If (1), do you want to to (3) import or export data, (4) 
transform data, (5) reshape data, or (6) select data?  If (2), do you want 
to (7) fit a model or (8) make a graph?  And so on

Once appropriate function(s) are located, the user would be directed (by 
hyperlinks) to the existing help framework.

That could help the problem of knowing what you want to do, but not what it 
is called.  I think that Introductory Statistics with R is a step in that 
direction for the basics, as MASS is for more complex matters.  The 
question is whether such material can be incorporated into a help system 
that will allow users to find, more easily, what they need.  That largely 
depends, it seems to me, on a great deal of work by volunteers.

I agree also with the suggestion that a dedicated editor (or add-in) that 
could supply arguments for functions might be considerable help.

MHP
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RE: [R] bioassay, excel

2004-11-17 Thread Liaw, Andy
It's not in R, but the system described in the pair of papers our group
published in the Journal of Biomolecular Screening late last year:

http://jbx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/refs/8/6/624
http://jbx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/refs/8/6/634

is based on S-PLUS and StatServer.  It was also presented at the Insightful
Tech. Conf. back in 2000.

For Excel/R connection, look for the R-(D)COM server on CRAN, which has an
RExcel plug-in for Excel.

Andy

 From: Andreas Betz
 
 
 Dear all,
 
 iis there literature about application of R in bioassay and 
 HTS around or does anybody experience using R in these areas. 
 Is there any documentation on Excel XP/R interface around, 
 where the use of the com server is described. My Rserver can 
 not be started.
 
 Andreas
 
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[R] Power sampling

2004-11-17 Thread Thomas Schnhoff
Hello,
after a unsuccessful search in lists maliarchive I wonder how I could 
estimate the power of a sample size related to an unknown population.

Given the following (fake))situation:
I do have a database containing about 5 millions observations over 70 
variables.
I would like to compute (as epidemiologists are used to) the required 
 size of a sample to do some test on a test sample (test data), later 
doing some subsequent analysis of a new sample to build a prediction 
model.

Help facilities of R show some entries regarding power, but none of 
them seemed to be appropriate for my purpose (maybe I am wrong, but 
sometimes I have some difficulties to decipher the message of those 
tiny hints for available packages)

I would appreciate somebody effort to point me to the right 
package/function to archieve this task!

regards
Thomas
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[R] Power sampling(II)

2004-11-17 Thread Thomas Schönhoff
Hmm, sorry for hitting the send button to quick, here is
the version output:
platform i386-pc-linux-gnu
arch i386
os   linux-gnu
system   i386, linux-gnu
status
major2
minor0.0
year 2004
month10
day  04
language R
regards
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Re: [R] 3d scatter plot with drop line

2004-11-17 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:03:54 -0800, Joel Bremson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote :

This is a follow up to my question from yesterday. I want to do in R
what is called a 3d scatter plot with drop lines in S-PLUS.

Basically, it's a 3dscatterplot with lines connecting the x-y grid to
the z points.
The lines give a better perspective on the shape of the data surface.

How to?

The scatterplot3d package does this in one of its examples, using
type='h'.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [R] CDs for R?

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I'd like to back Jari's proposal for an ISO image to be
planted on CRAN as a separate file with its own unique URL.
Exactly what its content should be may still be discussable,
but I would be satisfied with full sources and documentation
for R base and all contributed packages (maybe the Newsletter
would also be handy).
You do realize that this would change at least daily?  So it really isn't 
something that one would want to be mirrored around the CRAN network.

Even for the sources it is tricky, as those of us who rsync part of CRAN 
know -- for example src/contrib does not contain all the current packages, 
the orphaned ones being links.  One would probably want recent R-patched 
and R-devel tarballs, and they are not actually on CRAN.

For binaries (and I suspect that most `customers' would want binaries)
it is trickier still, as to meet GPL some of the sources in the Archive 
area would need to be included (and we have not bothered to work out 
what).

I suggest a suitable first step is for some interested party to write a 
script to prepare such an ISO image and to put it (the image) up for 
comment (modern OSes can mount such an image, allowing browsing). I 
suspect it would be worth producing only say monthly.

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Re: [R] 3d scatter plot with drop line

2004-11-17 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 14:03, Joel Bremson wrote:
 This is a follow up to my question from yesterday. I want to do in R
 what is called a 3d scatter plot with drop lines in S-PLUS.

 Basically, it's a 3dscatterplot with lines connecting the x-y grid to
 the z points.
 The lines give a better perspective on the shape of the data surface.

 How to?

One possibility would be 

library(lattice)
cloud(y ~ x * z, type = 'h')

This actually tries to drop the lines to the X-Y plane (z = 0) (which is 
truncated on the 'x-y grid' if the z-limits don't include 0).

Deepayan

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Re: [R] State Space Modeling Kalman Filtering (was AYUDA)

2004-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
Estimado Brian: 

 1.  El ingles es la lengua oficial de esta lista.  Muchas personas 
quienes pudieron haber contestado a su pregunta y para quienes el ingles 
no es su lengua materna no entienen el castellano. 

 2.  Have you tried www.r-project.org - Search - R site 
search - Kalman?  I just got 97 hits there, several of which may 
interest you. 

 hope this helps. 
 spencer graves

Brian pfeng wrote:
Hola, necesito informacion sobre como aplicar un
modelo espacio estado y filtro de kalman en R. Soy
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RE: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Thank you all (+ a couple of offline comments) on this topic.
To summarize your comments:

- Hidden costs, may be better called indirect costs are not so easy to
calculate. In the cited paper
http://www.scientific-computing.com/scwsepoct04free_statistics.html, there
is an interesting advice from a people used to test and wrote about
commercial software. Indeed, the whole context around the use of a
(statistical) software should be taken into account, which would reveil also
indirect costs for commercial packages. Indeed, it is the Total Cost of
Ownership (TCO) that should be better considered in this context.

- This discussion is connected with the many discussions pro/cons for a R
GUI, or any other tool that will facilitate use of R, but loosing one big
advantage: currently, you have to know what you are doing to get a result
with R... What kind of nonsenses would we get from naive people if they can
obtain results with no, or little knowledge?

- R is viewed by some as a statistical development platform, mainly for the
scientific community. It excels there, but, is it even desirable to get it
also used by the mass?

- ***Many of you claim for a better help system to find a function more
easily, than for a GUI***. I think this point is very important and should
be placed somewhere high in the to do list in order to make R more
accessible to beginners/occasional users!

- There is no possibility to make a commercial GUI for R (thanks to the
GPL), and volunteer R developers tend to work on a problem until they get
the solution they need... And this rarely lead to the development of a GUI
on top of it, conserning statistical analyses. In this way, yes, there is an
intrinsic mechanism that makes R a program by experts, for experts.

- A GUI could cover only the bare essentials, is rather unflexible, etc...
For all these reasons, how would it help to learn such a feature-rich
environment as R? This is not the solution to the problem.

- It is more a question of education: it takes so much time to find a
function in a menu/dialog box, than to consult help pages to find the right
function. However, some categories of people are more accustomished to click
and drag that to read help pages!

- GUIs, by providing access to a limited amount of analyses in an inflexible
way, lead to the phenomenon of software-driven analysis where the way data
are analyzed is dependent on the software used.

- Only commercial software care about eye candy stuffs to get clients more
happy to use their software (and thus to sell more); hidden beneath a
cosmetic veneer in the original paper. R does not care, because there is
nothing to sell. So, as a consequence, you face the bare power, but sorry,
no eye candy!

- GUI work is slower and more error-prone... So, this should be considered
in the hidden costs AFTER the learning stage... in favor of R!

- User-friendly software tend to make a lot of assumptions (to present the
analysis in an easier way), and does not tell about it. These could lead to
nonsenses in some case, and the user even don't know, precisely because
these assumptions are not explained!

- The author of the paper talks about hidden costs, but he does not talk
about hidden benefits, because he does even not notice them: ***all the bugs
that aren't in it*** (I add: transparence in code + possibility for everyone
to propose a patch = a big part of the success of Open Source software,
especially for data analysis software)!

That's all, I think, for the summary!

Otherwise:
Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
[...]
I think Ted Harding was on  the mark when he said that it is the help 
system that needs enhancement.  I can imagine a system that gets the 
user to the right function and then helps fill in the arguments; all of 
the time pointing them towards the command line rather than away from 
it.

Duncan Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] answered:
That would be helpful, and the only really difficult part would be the
first part:  getting the user to the right function.  help.search()
sometimes works, but often people ask for the wrong thing.

After that, R knows a lot about the structure of its help files, so it
could display all of the arguments with their defaults and the help text
that corresponds to each argument, as well as the help text for the rest
of the help file.

Probably the main obstacle to getting this is finding someone with the
time and interest to do it.

Humm, excuse me, but I think that SciViews and JGR *already* do that,... So
it appears that at least two people already spend their time and got their
interest focused on this topic. Also, functions for such purposes will be
added to the R GUI API... Meaning they will be available for a wider use.
And I am close to a solution under Windows where hitting a combination of
keys in ANY program will display a function tip with arguments, or a
contextual completion list for R code.

Finally:

It seems that a GUI for R is not just lacking, it is purposedly 

Re: [R] Search engine for LINUX MOZILLA

2004-11-17 Thread Yuandan Zhang
Thanks for instructions, it works. here are a few simple steps which may be 
useful for others too.


1 GET SOURCE: Following the link http://www.MedAnalytics.com/INSTALL, go  and 
download 

http://www.MedAnalytics.com/j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin

2 INSTALL: 
chown 007 j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin
./j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin

you will get j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.rpm
have root  access 

rpm -Uh j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.rpm

3 create a symbolic link

eg

   cd /usr/local/mozilla/plugins
ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so .

4 configure broswer to java enabled
  Edit = Preferences = Advanced, tick 'Enable Java'

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread David Mitchell
Hopefully my experience with R may add something to this discussion.

I majored in computer science in 1983, with minors in mathematics and
statistics.  As this was in the days when computers were largely big
centralised boxes with remote terminals, I didn't get to use computers
for stats while I was at uni.

Fast forward to a couple of years ago, and I've got to start doing
statistics on the computer for the type of work I now do.  A friend
pointed me to R, so off I went.  Between 1983 and then, I did a lot of
development, testing, documentation, management, troubleshooting, etc
work, so I think it's fair to say that, while my statistics knowledge
needed a top up, my computing background was very strong.

As of today, after approx 2 years of using R for relatively ad-hoc
tasks every few weeks, here's my thoughts about it:
- it's extremely powerful and well-maintained; kudos to everyone involved
- it's extremely concise; you can do a huge amount of work in very few
lines of code
- provided a particular task is close to one I've already done before,
using R I can extract info from a set of data at an amazing rate. 
Tasks that would take me an hour or so with another programming
language or toolset, may take me under a minute using R (obviously
depending on the size of the dataset)

Problems arise whenever I need to step outside my existing R knowledge
base, and use a feature or function that I haven't used before:
- the help documentation in general desperately needs work,
particularly the examples.  My thinking is that examples should pretty
much lead you through a trivial exercise using the tool being
discussed.  This is very rarely the case with R, and the examples seem
to assume you fully understand how e.g. a library works and just need
a simple reminder of the syntax.  For the purposes of comparison,
compare the documentation that comes with the Perl language; even if
you don't know what a function or keyword does, you can pretty much
read through the given examples and work it out without difficulty
- the GUI is pretty much just a working area on the screen; it's just
not helpful.  It would probably be reasonably simple to add menu or
toolbar options to help a user identify how they can actually achieve
a particular task in R (e.g. select a function from a drop-down list,
and get one-liner documentation about what it does), but that hasn't
been done.  Many of the questions asked on this list (which are often
answered with RTFM) are of the nature I've got this conceptually
simple task to do, but I can't find out how to do it using R.  Please
help; this is gratifying to me personally, since I frequently
encounter the same problem.  These issues are extremely frustrating,
as you often know the answer will be a one-liner but you may struggle
for hours or days trying to find it

As I said above, once you understand how to do a particular task in R,
you can leverage that knowledge to do similar tasks amazingly quickly;
the productivity that comes with using R in this context is
incredible.  However, that productivity tends to disappear when you
need to take even a small step outside your existing R knowledge base.

Now maybe I'm the only occasional R user out here, and everyone else
is using it 8 hours a day and acquired my 2 years' worth of knowledge
in their first week of use.  I doubt that is actually the case, and
the rest of us could really do with some help from the GUI.

Finally, please don't think I don't appreciate the mass of effort
required to get R to its current state.  I do, and it's made my life a
lot easier than it would otherwise have been.

Regards

Dave Mitchell

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Re: [R-gui] Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Patrick Burns wrote:
I'm a big advocate -- perhaps even fanatic -- of  making R easier for
novices in order to spread its use, but I'm not convinced that  a GUI
(at least in the traditional form) is the most valuable approach.
Perhaps an overly harsh summary of some of Ted Harding's statements
is: You can make a truck easier to get into by taking off the wheels, but
that doesn't make it more useful.
In terms of GUIs, I think what R should focus on is the ability for  user's
to make their own specialized GUI.  So that a knowledgeable programmer
at an installation can create a system that is easy for unsophisticated
users for the limited number of tasks that are to be done.  The ultimate
users may not even need to know that R exists.
I think Ted Harding was on  the mark when he said that it is the help
system that needs enhancement.  I can imagine a system that gets the
user to the right function and then helps fill in the arguments; all of the
time pointing them towards the command line rather than away from
it.
The author of the referenced article highlighted some hidden costs of R,
but did not highlight the hidden benefits (because they were hidden from
him).  A big benefit of R is all of the bugs that aren't in it (which 
may or
may not be due to its free status).

Patrick Burns
Burns Statistics
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Jan P. Smit wrote:
Dear Phillippe,
Very interesting. The URL of the article is 
http://www.scientific-computing.com/scwsepoct04free_statistics.html.

Best regards,
Jan Smit
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
Hello,
In the latest 'Scientific Computing World' magazine (issue 78, p. 
22), there
is a review on free statistical software by Felix Grant (doesn't 
have to
pay good money to obtain good statistics software). As far as I 
know, this
is the first time that R is even mentioned in this magazine, given 
that it
usually discuss commercial products.

[ ...]

I really agree with you Patrick.  To me the keys are having better help 
search capabilities, linking help files to case studies or at least 
detailed examples, having a navigator by keywords (a rudimentary one is 
at http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/s/finder/finder.html), having a 
great library of examples keyed by statistical goals (a la BUGS examples 
guides), and having a menu-driven skeleton code generator that gives 
beginners a starting script to edit to use their variable names, etc. 
Also I think we need a discussion board that has a better memory for 
new users, like some of the user forums currently on the web, or using a 
wiki.

Frank
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[R] OOP pkg compilation failure

2004-11-17 Thread Gorden Jemwa
Hi all,
I'm trying to install the OOP package (http://www.omegahat.org/OOP) but 
having difficulty in resolving the errors generated during compilation. 
Googling doesn't seem to be giving much help.

Can anyone please help. Below is the transcript of what I get from my 
command prompt. (I'm running on rw_2.0.0 WIN XP SP2 platform).

Thanks in advance
---transcript
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\...\R CMD INSTALL OOP.tar.gz
-- Making package OOP 
  adding build stamp to DESCRIPTION
  making DLL ...
making treeApply.d from treeApply.c
gcc   -Ic:/R/rw2000/include -Wall -O2   -c treeApply.c -o treeApply.o
ar cr OOP.a treeApply.o
ranlib OOP.a
windres --include-dir c:/R/rw2000/include  -i OOP_res.rc -o OOP_res.o
gcc  --shared -s  -o OOP.dll OOP.def OOP.a OOP_res.o 
-Lc:/R/rw2000/src/gnuwin32  -lg2c -lR
  ... DLL made
  installing DLL
  installing R files
  save image
[1] TRUE
Initializing OOP objects in database 1
execution of package source for 'OOP' failed
make[2]: *** [c:/R/rw2000/library/OOP/R/OOP] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make: *** [pkg-OOP] Error 2*** Installation of OOP failed ***

Removing 'c:/R/rw2000/library/OOP'
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Re: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?

2004-11-17 Thread RenE J.V. Bertin
gt;From: Patrick Connolly lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
gt;To: quot;RenE J.V. Bertinquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
gt;Subject: Re: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?
gt;Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:10 +1300
gt;
gt;On Wed, 20-Oct-2004 at 07:48PM +0200, RenE J.V. Bertin wrote:
gt;
gt;|gt; Hello,
gt;|gt;
gt;
gt;|gt; Is it possible to change the defaults for the arguments to a
gt;|gt; function, without changing the function code itself?  I'm asking
gt;|gt; because I'd like to override the default dimensions and font 
family
gt;|gt; for a graphics device. Before 2.0.0, I'd just do that with a small
gt;|gt; edit in the appropriate .R file containing the device function
gt;|gt; definition. I appears to be possible no longer. So rather than
gt;|gt; copying the definition into my own .Rprofile, it would be nice if
gt;|gt; just the defaults could be modified...
gt;
gt;I didn't notice a response to this question.  I'd like to do something
gt;similar and haven't been able to work out how to do it.
gt;
gt;
gt;best
gt;
gt;--
gt;Patrick Connolly
gt;HortResearch
gt;Mt Albert
gt;Auckland
gt;New Zealand
gt;Ph: +64-9 815 4200 x 7188

No, I haven't noticed a reply to this question neither.
Best,
René Bertin
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Re: [R] Changing graphics defaults [was: changing (core) function argument defaults?]

2004-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
 Under the S3 standard, you could make a local copy of any function 
and change the defaults in that local copy.  That may not always work 
under the S4 standard methods dispatch going to code hidden in 
namespaces.  In any event, it should be easy (and safer) to write a 
function with a slightly different name, e.g., adding a dot . to the 
end of the name, that would have different defaults and would do nothing 
but call the function of interest.  This might be safer

 I don't have any suggestions about changing graphics defaults 
other than to ask for that specifically -- e.g., by changing the subject 
line to this email. 

 hope this helps.  spencer graves
RenE J.V. Bertin wrote:
gt;From: Patrick Connolly lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
gt;To: quot;RenE J.V. Bertinquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
gt;Subject: Re: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?
gt;Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:10 +1300
gt;
gt;On Wed, 20-Oct-2004 at 07:48PM +0200, RenE J.V. Bertin wrote:
gt;
gt;|gt; Hello,
gt;|gt;
gt;
gt;|gt; Is it possible to change the defaults for the arguments to a
gt;|gt; function, without changing the function code itself?  I'm 
asking
gt;|gt; because I'd like to override the default dimensions and font 
family
gt;|gt; for a graphics device. Before 2.0.0, I'd just do that with a 
small
gt;|gt; edit in the appropriate .R file containing the device function
gt;|gt; definition. I appears to be possible no longer. So rather than
gt;|gt; copying the definition into my own .Rprofile, it would be 
nice if
gt;|gt; just the defaults could be modified...
gt;
gt;I didn't notice a response to this question.  I'd like to do 
something
gt;similar and haven't been able to work out how to do it.
gt;
gt;
gt;best
gt;
gt;--
gt;Patrick Connolly
gt;HortResearch
gt;Mt Albert
gt;Auckland
gt;New Zealand
gt;Ph: +64-9 815 4200 x 7188

No, I haven't noticed a reply to this question neither.
Best,
René Bertin
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RE: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?

2004-11-17 Thread Berton Gunter

Yes, I think for all practical purposes it (usually?) is. Here's an example.
Suppose I wish to change the default constant argument of mad from 1.48 to
2. Then

 z-formals(mad)
 z$constant-2
 mad-as.function(c(z,body(mad)))
 mad
function (x, center = median(x), constant = 2, na.rm = FALSE, 
low = FALSE, high = FALSE) 
{
if (na.rm) 
x - x[!is.na(x)]
n - length(x)
constant * if ((low || high)  n%%2 == 0) {
if (low  high) 
stop(`low' and `high' can't be both TRUE)
n2 - n%/%2 + as.integer(high)
sort(abs(x - center), partial = n2)[n2]
}
else median(abs(x - center))
}

If you now attach the workspace/environment containing this newly defined
mad function to the search list before the stats package (which contains the
original mad()) you have effectively changed the default argument without
changing the function.

I hope experts will let us know when this can't be done (perhaps with
.internal functions or non-exported functions in namespaces, though it isn't
clear to me that one couldn't manually export them and do this here, too).

Of course, all the usual warnings about masking existing functions apply.

Cheers,

-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
 
The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RenE 
 J.V. Bertin
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?
 
 gt;From: Patrick Connolly lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 gt;To: quot;RenE J.V. Bertinquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 gt;Subject: Re: [R] changing (core) function argument defaults?
 gt;Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:10 +1300
 
 gt;
 gt;On Wed, 20-Oct-2004 at 07:48PM +0200, RenE J.V. Bertin wrote:
 gt;
 gt;|gt; Hello,
 gt;|gt;
 gt;
 gt;|gt; Is it possible to change the defaults for the arguments to a
 gt;|gt; function, without changing the function code 
 itself?  I'm asking
 gt;|gt; because I'd like to override the default dimensions 
 and font 
 family
 gt;|gt; for a graphics device. Before 2.0.0, I'd just do 
 that with a small
 gt;|gt; edit in the appropriate .R file containing the 
 device function
 gt;|gt; definition. I appears to be possible no longer. So 
 rather than
 gt;|gt; copying the definition into my own .Rprofile, it 
 would be nice if
 gt;|gt; just the defaults could be modified...
 gt;
 gt;I didn't notice a response to this question.  I'd like to 
 do something
 gt;similar and haven't been able to work out how to do it.
 gt;
 gt;
 gt;best
 gt;
 gt;--
 gt;Patrick Connolly
 gt;HortResearch
 gt;Mt Albert
 gt;Auckland
 gt;New Zealand
 gt;Ph: +64-9 815 4200 x 7188
 
 No, I haven't noticed a reply to this question neither.
 
 Best,
 René Bertin
 
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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Andrew Criswell
Hi All,
GRETL, a Gnu Regression, Econometrics and Time-series Library is 
open-source, cross-platform, multi-language and fully GUI based. The 
website is http://gretl.sourceforge.net/ This is NOT a personal plug, 
simply posted to show what can be done.

Andrew
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[R] R statistical Library download problem

2004-11-17 Thread Piin-cherng Hwang
Hello,

  I just download R 2.0.0 and R 2.0.1. After I tried to un-zip
them , I got error message Error reading header after processing 0
entries for both of them.

Could you help? Thanks!
 
Sincerely, 

 Piin-cherng Hwang

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[R] Redirect standard input and output of R

2004-11-17 Thread Victor Robles
Dear R-people!

I’m trying to write a C program that write to the standard input of R
and read the standard output.
I can perfectly read the R output, but I’m not able of writing anything
to R.

This program really works with the ‘cat’ UNIX command, but it does not
work with R. What I’m doing wrong??? It is possible to do it???

I want to start R once and use it thousands of times... that’s why I’m
trying to use this system.


  pipe(fdW);
  pipe(fdR);

pid = fork();
if (pid==-1)
perror(Error fork);

if (pid==0)
{
close(0);
dup(fdW[0]);
close(fdW[0]);
close(fdW[1]);

close(1);
dup(fdR[1]);
close(fdR[1]);
close(fdR[0]);

execlp(R,R,--slave,NULL);
perror(Error exec);
}
else
{
close(fdW[0]);
close(fdR[1]); 

write(fdW[1], 3+7, 3);

total = 0;
while (total3)
{
leidos = read(fdR[0], k, sizeof(k));
printf(leidos son %d \n,leidos);
k[leidos]='\0';
if (leidos  0){
total = total + leidos;
printf(%s\n,k);
}
}
}
exit(0);


Best regards,
Victor

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[R] Calling Rdqags doesn't produce correct result.

2004-11-17 Thread Paul August
Does anyone has a clue what went wrong in the
following attempt?

I am trying to call the R built-in function Rdqags()
from my C
program for numerical integration. Following are the C
program
and the corresponding R program:

C program
-
void test(double *a,
  double *b,
  double *epsabs,
  double *epsrel,
  double *result,
  double *abserr,
  int *neval,
  int *ier,
  int *limit,
  int *lenw,
  int *last,
  int *iwork,
  double *work,
  double *exx)
{
void *ex;

ex = exx;
Rdqags(tmpfun, ex, a, b, epsabs, epsrel,
result, abserr, neval, ier,
limit, lenw, last, iwork, work);
}

// User supplied function
void tmpfun(double *x, int n, void *ex)
{
int i;
double *tmp;

tmp = (double *)ex;

//for(i=1;i=n;i++) {x[i] = pow(x[i], *tmp);}
for(i=1;i=n;i++) {x[i] = 2.0*x[i];}
return;
}



R program
-
test - function(a, b, epsabs =
.Machine$double.eps^0.25, epsrel = epsabs,
limit = 100, lenw = 400, ex = -0.5)
{
val - .C(test,
as.double(a),
as.double(b),
as.double(epsabs),
as.double(epsrel),
result = double(1),
abserr = as.double(-1),
neval = as.integer(-1),
ier = as.integer(-1),
as.integer(limit),
as.integer(lenw),
last = as.integer(-1),
integer(limit+1),
double(lenw+1),
as.double(ex),
NAOK=T,
specialsok=T
)
val
}


I followed the instructions in Writing R Extensions -
The R API
- Integration, and the program was complied and
loaded into R
successfully. However, calling R function test(0,
20)$result
gives me 385.0554, not 400! The returned ier value of
test(0, 20)
is 0! But if I call integrate(function(x) 2 * x, lower
= 0, upper
= 20), I got the correct result of 400. Apparently,
there must be
something wrong in my programs. But I cannot see where
is the
mistake. Do I miss anything obvious here?

The programs above were tested in R-1.9.0 for
MS-Windows and the
compiler is MSC++ V6. I have used similar calls to the
built-in
random generators and never had any problems.

Paul.

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Re: [R] The hidden costs of GPL software?

2004-11-17 Thread Richard A. O'Keefe
Background:  I'm a Computer Science lecturer, and I read the blue book cover
to cover before ever setting finger to keyboard with R.

Observation:  I really only use R for very simple things, but there's
practically *nothing* I've done with R since installing it could have
been done via menus.  I seem to need lots of little R functions, lots
of little try this transformation plot that, fiddle with the other...
I've had a student use it, I've introduced it to colleauges, and they
would not have benefited one iota from a GUI interface.

I'm glad that the effort put into R has gone into the things it has.

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[R] gdata package for genetics

2004-11-17 Thread Yuandan Zhang
Hi,

I try to install genetics_1.1.1.tar.gz and get following errors. it looks for a 
package call 'gdata'. I looked and search r-project web, did not find any thing 

 R CMD INSTALL src/contrib/genetics_1.1.1.tar.gz
* Installing *source* package 'genetics' ...
** R
** data
** inst
** preparing package for lazy loading
Error in loadNamespace(i[[1]], c(lib.loc, .libPaths()), keep.source) :
There is no package called 'gdata'
Execution halted
ERROR: lazy loading failed for package 'genetics'
** Removing '/usr/local/lib/R/library/genetics'
** Restoring previous '/usr/local/lib/R/library/genetics'

Can you help me out this?

Yuandan

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Re: [R] R statistical Library download problem

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Piin-cherng Hwang wrote:
 I just download R 2.0.0 and R 2.0.1. After I tried to un-zip
them , I got error message Error reading header after processing 0
entries for both of them.
No distribution of R is a zip file.  The sources are .tar.gz files, 
gzipped tar archives.

   Could you help? Thanks!

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idea what you did, for you have not told us.

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[R] ROracle connection problem

2004-11-17 Thread Andi Felber
Hi,
I found the same question in the mailing list already a few months ago - 
but there was no answer to it - so I'll try it again

Could somebody help me to solve this following problem? I just begin to 
learn how to connect my Oracle database with R.

 library(DBI)
 library(ROracle)
Warning message:
DLL attempted to change FPU control word from 8001f to 9001f
 ora=dbDriver(Oracle)
Error in initialize(value, ...) : Invalid names for slots of class 
OraDriver: Id


My system is:
Windows 2000,
Oracle 9.2
R1.9.0
Thank you very much
andi
 

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Re: [R] gdata package for genetics

2004-11-17 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
From the description file
Depends:  combinat, gdata, MASS
Now, gdata is part of the gregmisc bundle.
 install.packages(genetics, depend=TRUE)
would have figured this out for you.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Yuandan Zhang wrote:
Hi,
I try to install genetics_1.1.1.tar.gz and get following errors. it 
looks for a package call 'gdata'. I looked and search r-project web, did 
not find any thing
Really?: please search the list of packages at
http://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/PACKAGES.html
again, for my browser finds `gdata' there.

R CMD INSTALL src/contrib/genetics_1.1.1.tar.gz
* Installing *source* package 'genetics' ...
** R
** data
** inst
** preparing package for lazy loading
Error in loadNamespace(i[[1]], c(lib.loc, .libPaths()), keep.source) :
   There is no package called 'gdata'
Execution halted
ERROR: lazy loading failed for package 'genetics'
** Removing '/usr/local/lib/R/library/genetics'
** Restoring previous '/usr/local/lib/R/library/genetics'
Can you help me out this?
Yuandan
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