Re: [R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Schulz
...many thanks  for all the answers  and clarity!!!
regards, christian

 Hi,

 Chance is not .5 in your data, it's a function of the expected values 
 for presence and absence:

   
 (((7792*10855)/11974) + ((4182*1119)/11974))/11974
 
 [1] 0.6225686

   
 (.6862368-.6225686)/(1-.6225686)
 
 [1] 0.1686881

 Scot


 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Christian Schulz wrote:

   
 Hi,

 im little bit confused about Cohen's Kappa and i should  be look into the
 Kappa function code. Is the easy formula really wrong?

 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance)

 many thanks
 christian

 ###
 true-negativ:7445
 false-positive:3410
 false-negativ:347
 true-positiv:772

 classification-aggrement:68,6%
 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance) = (0.686-0.5)/0.5=0.372

 .with function from library(vcd)
 Kappa(matrix(c(7445,3410,347,772),nrow=2))
   value ASE
 Unweighted 0.1686882 0.011235188
 Weighted   0.1686882 0.007979293

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Re: [R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-23 Thread Jonathan Baron
See also section 6.4 of
http://www.psych.upenn.edu/~baron/rpsych/rpsych.html

which also points to a few packages that have kappa code in them.
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[R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-22 Thread Christian Schulz
Hi,

im little bit confused about Cohen's Kappa and i should  be look into the
Kappa function code. Is the easy formula really wrong?

kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance)

many thanks
christian

###
true-negativ:7445
false-positive:3410
false-negativ:347
true-positiv:772

classification-aggrement:68,6%
kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance) = (0.686-0.5)/0.5=0.372

.with function from library(vcd)
Kappa(matrix(c(7445,3410,347,772),nrow=2))
   value ASE
Unweighted 0.1686882 0.011235188
Weighted   0.1686882 0.007979293

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Re: [R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-22 Thread Andrew Perrin
Shouldn't that be

kappa = rater1 - rater2 / (1-chance)

?

Andy

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Christian Schulz wrote:

 Hi,

 im little bit confused about Cohen's Kappa and i should  be look into the
 Kappa function code. Is the easy formula really wrong?

 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance)

 many thanks
 christian

 ###
 true-negativ:7445
 false-positive:3410
 false-negativ:347
 true-positiv:772

 classification-aggrement:68,6%
 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance) = (0.686-0.5)/0.5=0.372

 .with function from library(vcd)
 Kappa(matrix(c(7445,3410,347,772),nrow=2))
   value ASE
 Unweighted 0.1686882 0.011235188
 Weighted   0.1686882 0.007979293

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Re: [R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-22 Thread Scot W McNary

Hi,

Chance is not .5 in your data, it's a function of the expected values 
for presence and absence:

 (((7792*10855)/11974) + ((4182*1119)/11974))/11974
[1] 0.6225686

 (.6862368-.6225686)/(1-.6225686)
[1] 0.1686881

Scot


On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Christian Schulz wrote:

 Hi,

 im little bit confused about Cohen's Kappa and i should  be look into the
 Kappa function code. Is the easy formula really wrong?

 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance)

 many thanks
 christian

 ###
 true-negativ:7445
 false-positive:3410
 false-negativ:347
 true-positiv:772

 classification-aggrement:68,6%
 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance) = (0.686-0.5)/0.5=0.372

 .with function from library(vcd)
 Kappa(matrix(c(7445,3410,347,772),nrow=2))
   value ASE
 Unweighted 0.1686882 0.011235188
 Weighted   0.1686882 0.007979293

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Re: [R] Cohen's Kappa

2007-03-22 Thread Francisco J. Zagmutt

Cohen, J. (1960). A coefficient of agreement for nominal scales. 
Educational and Psychological Measurement, 20, 37-46.

Cohen, J. (1968). Weighted kappa: Nominal scale agreement with provision 
for scaled disagreement or partial credit. Psychological Bulletin, 70, 
213-220.


Francisco

Dr. Francisco J. Zagmutt
College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences
Colorado State University


Christian Schulz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 im little bit confused about Cohen's Kappa and i should  be look into the
 Kappa function code. Is the easy formula really wrong?
 
 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance)
 
 many thanks
 christian
 
 ###
 true-negativ:7445
 false-positive:3410
 false-negativ:347
 true-positiv:772
 
 classification-aggrement:68,6%
 kappa=agreement-chance/(1-chance) = (0.686-0.5)/0.5=0.372
 
 ..with function from library(vcd)
 Kappa(matrix(c(7445,3410,347,772),nrow=2))
value ASE
 Unweighted 0.1686882 0.011235188
 Weighted   0.1686882 0.007979293
 
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