Re: [R] Embedding Audio Files in Interactive Graphs

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Murrell
Hi


Michael Lawrence wrote:
 On 9/4/07, Sam Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Thanks for your reply Bruno.

 No - as I said, I know how to do that - the movie15 and the
 multimedia package are basically the same, and it is relatively
 straightforward to get an audio file into a pdf with them. However,
 real interactivity is not easily achieved in latex IMO (as it's not
 its purpose). At least I'm hoping for a bit more flexibility.

 R seems like a better place to do interactivity, and with the field
 of information visualisation pointing out that interactivity is a
 very useful element for investigation of data it seems that clicking
 around graphical displays may become more and more popular in time.
 In my field I'm interested in audio data, and so simple interactive
 visual and auditory displays would be great. A (very useful) start
 would be 5 separate waveform plots that would play their appropriate
 sounds when clicked. More complex figures could plot in a 2d space
 and allow selection of data points or ranges perhaps.

 I love R for graphics and for Sweave though, and would like to use it
 if possible - ideally it would be to produce a figure that included
 the appropriate audiofiles and interactive scripts, which could then
 be incorporated into a latex document \includegraphics. However, from
 the deafening silence on this list it seems like I may be attempting
 to push a square block through a round hole unfortunately. Seems I am
 back to Matlab and handle graphics - but it won't do this properly
 either.
 
 
 Lots of things can be embedded into PDF documents, like javascript, flash
 and svg. Maybe it would be feasible to use the gridSVG package to output
 some graphics as svg with javascript to play the sounds and embed that into
 a pdf?


The short answer is that R cannot do this sort of thing and is unlikely 
to be able to do it anytime soon.

The basic problem is that core R graphics has no concept of animation, 
audio, hyperlinks, etc AND there is no way to access these features on 
devices that do have these concepts (e.g., PDF).  It would be nice to 
change that, but it is a large redesign problem that is not anywhere 
near the top of anyone's todo list (to my knowledge).

As Michael mentioned, the gridSVG package allows you to draw using the 
grid package and access some of the fancier SVG features (including 
embedding scripts).  It has its own problems of course, but may be worth 
trying.

Paul


 Cheers
 Sam


 On 03/09/2007, at 5:39 PM, Bruno C.. wrote:

 Are you asking on how to include an  audio file into a pdf?
 This is already feasible via latex and the movie 15 package ;)

 Ciao

 Hi R-ers,

 I'm wondering if anyone has investigated a method for embedding audio
 files in R graphs (pdf format), and allowing their playback to be
 triggered interactively (by clicking on a graph element for
 instance).

 I know how to do this in latex pdfs with the multimedia package, but
 it seems that R would provide a more appropriate platform for many
 reasons.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.
 Sam Ferguson
 Faculty of Architecture, Design and Planning
 The University of Sydney

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Re: [R] Embedding Audio Files in Interactive Graphs

2007-09-04 Thread Michael Lawrence
On 9/4/07, Sam Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Thanks for your reply Bruno.

 No - as I said, I know how to do that - the movie15 and the
 multimedia package are basically the same, and it is relatively
 straightforward to get an audio file into a pdf with them. However,
 real interactivity is not easily achieved in latex IMO (as it's not
 its purpose). At least I'm hoping for a bit more flexibility.

 R seems like a better place to do interactivity, and with the field
 of information visualisation pointing out that interactivity is a
 very useful element for investigation of data it seems that clicking
 around graphical displays may become more and more popular in time.
 In my field I'm interested in audio data, and so simple interactive
 visual and auditory displays would be great. A (very useful) start
 would be 5 separate waveform plots that would play their appropriate
 sounds when clicked. More complex figures could plot in a 2d space
 and allow selection of data points or ranges perhaps.

 I love R for graphics and for Sweave though, and would like to use it
 if possible - ideally it would be to produce a figure that included
 the appropriate audiofiles and interactive scripts, which could then
 be incorporated into a latex document \includegraphics. However, from
 the deafening silence on this list it seems like I may be attempting
 to push a square block through a round hole unfortunately. Seems I am
 back to Matlab and handle graphics - but it won't do this properly
 either.


Lots of things can be embedded into PDF documents, like javascript, flash
and svg. Maybe it would be feasible to use the gridSVG package to output
some graphics as svg with javascript to play the sounds and embed that into
a pdf?

Cheers
 Sam


 On 03/09/2007, at 5:39 PM, Bruno C.. wrote:

  Are you asking on how to include an  audio file into a pdf?
  This is already feasible via latex and the movie 15 package ;)
 
  Ciao
 
  Hi R-ers,
 
  I'm wondering if anyone has investigated a method for embedding audio
  files in R graphs (pdf format), and allowing their playback to be
  triggered interactively (by clicking on a graph element for
  instance).
 
  I know how to do this in latex pdfs with the multimedia package, but
  it seems that R would provide a more appropriate platform for many
  reasons.
 
  Thanks for any help you can provide.
  Sam Ferguson
  Faculty of Architecture, Design and Planning
  The University of Sydney
 
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Re: [R] Embedding Audio Files in Interactive Graphs

2007-09-03 Thread Sam Ferguson
Thanks for your reply Bruno.

No - as I said, I know how to do that - the movie15 and the  
multimedia package are basically the same, and it is relatively  
straightforward to get an audio file into a pdf with them. However,  
real interactivity is not easily achieved in latex IMO (as it's not  
its purpose). At least I'm hoping for a bit more flexibility.

R seems like a better place to do interactivity, and with the field  
of information visualisation pointing out that interactivity is a  
very useful element for investigation of data it seems that clicking  
around graphical displays may become more and more popular in time.  
In my field I'm interested in audio data, and so simple interactive  
visual and auditory displays would be great. A (very useful) start  
would be 5 separate waveform plots that would play their appropriate  
sounds when clicked. More complex figures could plot in a 2d space  
and allow selection of data points or ranges perhaps.

I love R for graphics and for Sweave though, and would like to use it  
if possible - ideally it would be to produce a figure that included  
the appropriate audiofiles and interactive scripts, which could then  
be incorporated into a latex document \includegraphics. However, from  
the deafening silence on this list it seems like I may be attempting  
to push a square block through a round hole unfortunately. Seems I am  
back to Matlab and handle graphics - but it won't do this properly  
either.

Cheers
Sam


On 03/09/2007, at 5:39 PM, Bruno C.. wrote:

 Are you asking on how to include an  audio file into a pdf?
 This is already feasible via latex and the movie 15 package ;)

 Ciao

 Hi R-ers,

 I'm wondering if anyone has investigated a method for embedding audio
 files in R graphs (pdf format), and allowing their playback to be
 triggered interactively (by clicking on a graph element for  
 instance).

 I know how to do this in latex pdfs with the multimedia package, but
 it seems that R would provide a more appropriate platform for many
 reasons.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.
 Sam Ferguson
 Faculty of Architecture, Design and Planning
 The University of Sydney

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[R] Embedding Audio Files in Interactive Graphs

2007-09-02 Thread Sam Ferguson
Hi R-ers,

I'm wondering if anyone has investigated a method for embedding audio  
files in R graphs (pdf format), and allowing their playback to be  
triggered interactively (by clicking on a graph element for instance).

I know how to do this in latex pdfs with the multimedia package, but  
it seems that R would provide a more appropriate platform for many  
reasons.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Sam Ferguson
Faculty of Architecture, Design and Planning
The University of Sydney

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