[R] Make sign test show test statistics

2007-05-14 Thread Johan A. Stenberg
When I perform a two-tailed sign test with the following simple syntax,

binom.test(59,100)

R returns a P-value (0.088) but nothing else. As I want the result for a 
one-tailed test I take P/2 = 0.044). However, the journal to which I've 
submitted my results requests the test statistics, not just the 
P-values. How can I make R return the test statistics?

Best regards,
Johan Stenberg, Umea University, Sweden

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Re: [R] Make sign test show test statistics

2007-05-14 Thread Ted Harding
On 14-May-07 10:07:53, Johan A. Stenberg wrote:
 When I perform a two-tailed sign test with the following simple syntax,
 
 binom.test(59,100)
 
 R returns a P-value (0.088) but nothing else. As I want the result for
 a 
 one-tailed test I take P/2 = 0.044).

1: If you want a 1-sided P-value, use the appropriate option
to binom.test(). For example (assuming your Null Hypothesis
is that p = 0.5, which is the default, and your Alternative
Hypothesis is that p  0.5):

  binom.test(x=59, n=100,alternative=greater)

Exact binomial test

  data:  59 and 100 
  number of successes = 59, number of trials = 100, p-value = 0.04431
  alternative hypothesis: true probability of success is greater
than 0.5 
  95 percent confidence interval:
0.5028918 1.000 
  sample estimates:
  probability of success 
0.59 

(which confirms that your divide by two strategy was about right
in this case, though that will not always be true; and certainly
will not be appropriate for the opposite Alternative Hypothesis
that p  0.5).

 However, the journal to which I've
 submitted my results requests the test statistics, not just the 
 P-values. How can I make R return the test statistics?

2: Have a word (et borgerlig ord, as the Danes say -- sorry
I do not have the same familiarity with Swedish, but maybe you
say the same) with the journal editor.

The plain and simple fact is that the data (x = 59 out of n = 100)
constitue the test statistic. In the conditional context that
n=100, the test statistic is simply x = 59.

However, one should strictly speaking always include a statement
about n, no matter how one expresses the test statistic. For instance,
you might use t = x/n as test statistic (with expectation p=0.5
and SD sqrt( p*(1-p)/n ) in your case). While its expecation now
depends only on the NH (p = 0.5), it cannot be evaluated as a test
without knowldge of n since that is needed to get the SD.

So R (see above) has indeed returned the test statistic, and
the journal is not being reasonable!

Hoping this helps,
Ted.


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Re: [R] Make sign test show test statistics

2007-05-14 Thread S Ellison
Johan,

Tests return objects of class htest; see ?t.test for a description. 
binom.test(59,100)$statistic confirms that Ted harding is right about the test 
statistic; it's just the number of successes.

Steve Ellison

 Johan A. Stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/05/2007 11:07:53 
When I perform a two-tailed sign test with the following simple syntax,

binom.test(59,100)

R returns a P-value (0.088) but nothing else. As I want the result for a 
one-tailed test I take P/2 = 0.044). However, the journal to which I've 
submitted my results requests the test statistics, not just the 
P-values. How can I make R return the test statistics?

Best regards,
Johan Stenberg, Umea University, Sweden

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