Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Here's a function for searching the Rwiki from R: rwiki.search - function(string){ RwikiURL=http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl; RwikiSearchURL=paste(RwikiURL(),?search=,string,sep='') browseURL(RwikiSearchURL) return(invisible(0)) } Then you can do rwiki.search(gabor) and the results pop up in your browser. Perhaps we need some more documentation-getting functions in R, such as this, something to search the mailing list archives, and maybe a readPostingGuide() function... Or is this spoonfeeding too much, and people should be able to go to a web page and stick something in the search box? Baz __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Barry Rowlingson wrote: Here's a function for searching the Rwiki from R: rwiki.search - function(string){ RwikiURL=http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl; RwikiSearchURL=paste(RwikiURL(),?search=,string,sep='') browseURL(RwikiSearchURL) return(invisible(0)) } Hmm, that's nice. Then you can do rwiki.search(gabor) and the results pop up in your browser. Perhaps we need some more documentation-getting functions in R, such as this, something to search the mailing list archives, and maybe a readPostingGuide() function... Or is this spoonfeeding too much, and people should be able to go to a web page and stick something in the search box? Some people need spoonfeeding, and sometimes its nice to be able to do things more than one way. rwiki.search('SearchFunctions') help.search.archive-function(string){ RURL=http://www.google.com/u/newcastlemaths; RSearchURL=paste(RURL,?q=,string,sep='') browseURL(RSearchURL) return(invisible(0)) } help.search.archive('wiki') Dave -- Dave Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED](804)684-7900w [EMAIL PROTECTED] (804)642-0662h http://maplepark.com/~drf5n/ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : Is there an R wiki? : : Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be : an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. : : I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation : (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add : their own examples and comments. : : Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate : than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, : but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. : : The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online : resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant : FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. : : Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone : dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? : : Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be : really really great. : : Cheers, : Dan. There is one at http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome Unfortunately, no one seems to use it. I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? So often I read the docks and think, now if only this linked here, and if only this example were more clear etc... After I solve my problem I want to fix the docs. Wiki would let me do that. How about you host a 'best diff in 30 days' competition each month, and winning contributors could be announced on the list? Can we integrate R-embedded web pages into the wiki? __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: : : Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : : : : Is there an R wiki? : : : : Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be : : an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. : : : : I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation : : (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add : : their own examples and comments. : : : : Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate : : than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, : : but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. : : : : The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online : : resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant : : FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. : : : : Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone : : dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? : : : : Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be : : really really great. : : : : Cheers, : : Dan. : : There is one at : : http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome : : Unfortunately, no one seems to use it. : : I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get : motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of : just getting the ball rolling... : : Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a : framework to get things going? : : So often I read the docks and think, now if only this linked here, and if : only this example were more clear etc... : : After I solve my problem I want to fix the docs. Wiki would let me do : that. : : How about you host a 'best diff in 30 days' competition each month, and : winning contributors could be announced on the list? : : Can we integrate R-embedded web pages into the wiki? I certainly would be nice. It has been mentioned before on the list before but so far nothing has happened on that front. BTW, the PHP language documentation is good example of another language where this was done: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
At Thursday 11:29 AM 10/7/2004, Dan Bolser wrote: [snip] I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? If the existing R-docs are dumped into a wiki, won't the copy in the Wiki quickly get out of date? How does one get around this problem? -- Tony Plate __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
RE: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
When you think there should be new links, or can offer an example you think would be clearer, it might be worth submitting a documentation modification proposal (through the bug tracking link on the R home page, for example). That would improve the basic documentation, which is what most people will see first. Regards, Matt Wiener -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bolser Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:30 PM To: Gabor Grothendieck Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia? On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : Is there an R wiki? : : Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be : an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. : : I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation : (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add : their own examples and comments. : : Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate : than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, : but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. : : The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online : resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant : FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. : : Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone : dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? : : Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be : really really great. : : Cheers, : Dan. There is one at http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome Unfortunately, no one seems to use it. I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? So often I read the docks and think, now if only this linked here, and if only this example were more clear etc... After I solve my problem I want to fix the docs. Wiki would let me do that. How about you host a 'best diff in 30 days' competition each month, and winning contributors could be announced on the list? Can we integrate R-embedded web pages into the wiki? __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Tony Plate wrote: At Thursday 11:29 AM 10/7/2004, Dan Bolser wrote: [snip] I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? If the existing R-docs are dumped into a wiki, won't the copy in the Wiki quickly get out of date? How does one get around this problem? And another problem is, how to reverse from something like HTML or XML back to .Rd ? I think that a generic format is absolutely necessary. The generic format we have and not yet another source of confusion. If wiki means editing .Rd sources or better: inverse transformation in both sides (without to many loss), it would be nice. Is there really a chance? Thomas P. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Tony Plate tplate at blackmesacapital.com writes: : : At Thursday 11:29 AM 10/7/2004, Dan Bolser wrote: : [snip] : I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get : motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of : just getting the ball rolling... : : Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a : framework to get things going? : : If the existing R-docs are dumped into a wiki, won't the copy in the Wiki : quickly get out of date? How does one get around this problem? The way the PHP manual works is that all comments are placed at the end of each manual page, blog-style. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Thomas Petzoldt wrote: Tony Plate wrote: At Thursday 11:29 AM 10/7/2004, Dan Bolser wrote: [snip] I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? If the existing R-docs are dumped into a wiki, won't the copy in the Wiki quickly get out of date? How does one get around this problem? And another problem is, how to reverse from something like HTML or XML back to .Rd ? I think that a generic format is absolutely necessary. The generic format we have and not yet another source of confusion. If wiki means editing .Rd sources or better: inverse transformation in both sides (without to many loss), it would be nice. Is there really a chance? Shurely their is. Define an XML schema. Write functions Rd2XML, XML2Rd, twiki2XML, . I am looking since ages for something like R2XML and XML2Rd. If we can agree on an XML format for the documentation it will be something to start with. Yours Thomas P. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html -- Dipl. bio-chem. Witold Eryk Wolski MPI-Moleculare Genetic Ihnestrasse 63-73 14195 Berlin _ tel: 0049-30-83875219 __( 'v' http://www.molgen.mpg.de/~wolski \__/ / \ mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^^ w w [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Tony Plate tplate at blackmesacapital.com writes: : : At Thursday 11:29 AM 10/7/2004, Dan Bolser wrote: : [snip] : I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get : motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of : just getting the ball rolling... : : Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a : framework to get things going? : : If the existing R-docs are dumped into a wiki, won't the copy in the Wiki : quickly get out of date? How does one get around this problem? The way the PHP manual works is that all comments are placed at the end of each manual page, blog-style. I guess that is the best answer. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
RE: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Wiener, Matthew wrote: When you think there should be new links, or can offer an example you think would be clearer, it might be worth submitting a documentation modification proposal (through the bug tracking link on the R home page, for example). That would improve the basic documentation, which is what most people will see first. Yup, http://r-bugs.biostat.ku.dk/cgi-bin/R/Documentation?user=guest It would be good if each page (?function page) had a link to an 'update request' page. That was the idea of a wiki, to prevent overload of someone monitering the pages. Regards, Matt Wiener -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bolser Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:30 PM To: Gabor Grothendieck Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia? On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : Is there an R wiki? : : Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be : an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. : : I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation : (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add : their own examples and comments. : : Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate : than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, : but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. : : The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online : resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant : FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. : : Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone : dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? : : Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be : really really great. : : Cheers, : Dan. There is one at http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome Unfortunately, no one seems to use it. I just added some pages... I think it would be great if people could get motivated to contribute to something like this. Its one of those cases of just getting the ball rolling... Do you think you can dump the existing R-docs into this wiki as a framework to get things going? So often I read the docks and think, now if only this linked here, and if only this example were more clear etc... After I solve my problem I want to fix the docs. Wiki would let me do that. How about you host a 'best diff in 30 days' competition each month, and winning contributors could be announced on the list? Can we integrate R-embedded web pages into the wiki? __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
[R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Is there an R wiki? Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add their own examples and comments. Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be really really great. Cheers, Dan. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] R-(wiki)-pedia?
Dan Bolser dmb at mrc-dunn.cam.ac.uk writes: : : Is there an R wiki? : : Looking at the huge amount of traffic on this list, I think wiki could be : an exelet outlet for all the constructive enthusiasm here. : : I don't think it would be too hard to port the existing R documentation : (the stuff you get with the ?) onto a wiki system, then users could add : their own examples and comments. : : Having distinct web page style organization would be easier to navigate : than the mailing list archives. I like the online version of the R-docs, : but I miss 'user comments' and I miss being able to fix trivial things. : : The user contributed links could supply the best statistical online : resources to supplement the R-documentation, with links to the relevant : FAQ's and Tutorials supplementing the whole thing. : : Now I have said it this sounds too good to not exist already... Anyone : dumped the R-documentation onto a wiki system? : : Given the capability of R to be integrated into web pages, this could be : really really great. : : Cheers, : Dan. There is one at http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome Unfortunately, no one seems to use it. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html