Re: [R] Re: [R-gui] Editor in R
On 07/04/04, Duncan Murdoch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: S?ren H?jsgaard wrote: I'm on a PC and have VIM, a VI clone that I love. Is it possible and relatively easy to replace the Emacs editor with one like that which you already have? Does VIM have a way to run a program that uses stdin, stdout and stderr, capturing the input and output? On my linux system, with my environmental variables pointing to vim, the command edit() puts me into a vim buffer. You may want to discover if you can get readline support for R too, as it is great being able to use vi keybindings to surf through the command history and do quick and easy cutting and pasting. eg: ESC2kgoes up two commands ESC/abs find the first line with 'abs' n find the next line with 'abs' W move to the second word on a line d$ delete from second word to end into buffer p paste Rory -- Rory Campbell-Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campbell-lange.net __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
[R] Re: [R-gui] Editor in R
Søren Højsgaard wrote: Dear all, I have used R (Windows) for teaching statistics to agronomists and biologists - and they love R!! Yet there is one immediate short coming of R: The lack of an integrated editor. A plain editor (e.g. similar to notepad in windows) in which people can write their code, highlight the piece of code they wish to submit and then press a single key to have it pasted into R. For the audience I have in mind, using emacs is way too complicated. WinEdt with the R-extension is probably also too difficult for them (though I have not tried), and at it certainly would move the focus away from statistics to get these technical things up-and-running. If I knew how to make such a simple editor within R (as an add-on package) then I would do it - but this goes way beyond my capabilities. I would therefore like to encourage anyone in the GUI group with such technical skills to make such an editor. It would be appreciated by many R-beginners... I'm on a PC and have VIM, a VI clone that I love. Is it possible and relatively easy to replace the Emacs editor with one like that which you already have? Thanks, Bob -- Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler. A. Einstein __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] Re: [R-gui] Editor in R
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:33:17 -0700, Bob Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Søren Højsgaard wrote: Dear all, I have used R (Windows) for teaching statistics to agronomists and biologists - and they love R!! Yet there is one immediate short coming of R: The lack of an integrated editor. A plain editor (e.g. similar to notepad in windows) in which people can write their code, highlight the piece of code they wish to submit and then press a single key to have it pasted into R. For the audience I have in mind, using emacs is way too complicated. WinEdt with the R-extension is probably also too difficult for them (though I have not tried), and at it certainly would move the focus away from statistics to get these technical things up-and-running. If I knew how to make such a simple editor within R (as an add-on package) then I would do it - but this goes way beyond my capabilities. I would therefore like to encourage anyone in the GUI group with such technical skills to make such an editor. It would be appreciated by many R-beginners... I'm on a PC and have VIM, a VI clone that I love. Is it possible and relatively easy to replace the Emacs editor with one like that which you already have? Does VIM have a way to run a program that uses stdin, stdout and stderr, capturing the input and output? That's how ESS does it in Emacs. If so, then it could run Rterm that way, and handle the console display itself. You might want to run using the --ess command line option (but you'll have to check the source code to see exactly what it does, I forget). Duncan Murdoch __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: [R] Re: [R-gui] Editor in R
Bob Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm on a PC and have VIM, a VI clone that I love. Is it possible and relatively easy to replace the Emacs editor with one like that which you already have? Depends on what for. There are R commands that involve calling up an editor on a file and getting a modified file back (fix(myfun) e.g.). That editor is completely customizable by options(editor=). On Unix-alikes the default is your $EDITOR setting and on Windows I believe it is Notepad. However, it is possible to wire up Emacs so that R runs in one of its text buffers and you can can easily send blocks of code to that process. This can be difficult to clone with other editors, but AFAIR WinEdt can do something similar. Wouldn't know about Vim. -- O__ Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~ - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FAX: (+45) 35327907 __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
[R] Re: [R-gui] Editor in R
Hello there, I have been using WinEdt as a text editor for a while. I use it in a simple general purpose way, and take advantage of just a few of the 100's (1000s?) of features. I would say that used this way it is certainly not more difficult than R. So it would seem that if you are successful teaching R to biologists, additionally learning WinEdt should not push anyone over the edge. Still, another alternative is Pico, which you can get for free for Windoze. By the way, although Notepad works for R scripts, when I tried Wordpad it did not. Probably puts whacko crapola at the end of each line. Cheers, =Randy= R. Zelick email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Biology voice: 503-725-3086 Portland State University fax: 503-725-3888 mailing: P.O. Box 751 Portland, OR 97207 shipping: 1719 SW 10th Ave, Room 246 Portland, OR 97201 __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
