Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-24 Thread Ritwik Sinha
How about this book by Julian Faraway.

http://www.stat.lsa.umich.edu/~faraway/book/

It covers only regression and anova, but I really like the book. It
gives a good overview of the important topics in linear regression and
anova. Also it is on the web and hence free.

Ritwik

On 9/22/06, Wolfgang Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Iuri Gavronski schrieb:
  Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
  cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.

 Hi Iuri,

 for your second answer I would recommend
 B. Everitt: An R and S-PLUS Companion to Multivariate Analysis. Springer 2005.
 isbn 1-85233-882-2.

 Best
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-22 Thread Wolfgang Lindner
Iuri Gavronski schrieb:
 Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,  
 cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.

Hi Iuri,

for your second answer I would recommend 
B. Everitt: An R and S-PLUS Companion to Multivariate Analysis. Springer 2005.
isbn 1-85233-882-2.

Best
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-21 Thread Martin Maechler
 GS == Gavin Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:08:17 +0100 writes:

GS On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 18:56 -0400, Charles Annis, P.E. wrote:
 Recommending a good book on statistics is like recommending a good book 
on
 sports:  Which sports?
 
 A good book for learning statistical concepts (and learning R at the same
 time), one that assumes you understand algebra but are new to 
statistics, is
 Peter Dalgaard's _Introductory Statistics with R_ (Springer 2002).  The
 writing is relaxed and succinct, not condescending as some texts might
 appear to a newcomer.  It's just a good book.

GS I couldn't agree more. A number of my colleagues have bought Peter
GS Dalgaard's book to a) learn some R and b) learn some statistics. They
GS have found it very useful indeed.

Yes!
I'm pretty sure it has been the first book of its kind (Intro Stats + R), 
and in my view is still the best.

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich


 
 Charles Annis, P.E.
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:36 PM
 To: Berton Gunter
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
 
 Excellent characterization.
 
 MASS is a very good book, but I'm not sure I would describe it as a
 statistics textbook, much less one of the basic variety.  While I
 certainly wouldn't presume to speak for Prof. Ripley and Dr. Venables,
 it seems unlikely their intent in writing MASS was to teach
 statistics, but rather, as the name of the book might suggest, to
 explain how S+ (and R) can be applied to modern statistical
 techniques.  My experience with this book is that it assumes
 considerable background knowledge.
 
 By all means, buy MASS, but if you need guidance on the how and why of
 statistical techniques, you may wish to shop Amazon to find a
 supplement.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 9/20/06, Berton Gunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
  canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
  Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
  background, you may find it too telegraphic.
 
  -- Bert Gunter
  Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
  South San Francisco, CA
 
  The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific 
learning
  process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 
 
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   Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
   To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
   Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
  
   I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
   sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
   download it
   in PDF or html format.
   I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
   textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
   statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
   Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
   cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
   Any recommendation?
  
   Thank you in advance,
  
   Iuri.
  
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-21 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 GS I couldn't agree more. A number of my colleagues have bought Peter
 GS Dalgaard's book to a) learn some R and b) learn some statistics. They
 GS have found it very useful indeed.
 
 Yes!
 I'm pretty sure it has been the first book of its kind (Intro Stats + R), 
 and in my view is still the best.

Thanks for the kind words, but...

I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there
were only R textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the
focus, not the statistics. And I would like to find the
opposite.

and that does to some extent apply to my book too. Perhaps have a look
at Maindonald  Braun as well.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-21 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 22:21, Iuri Gavronski wrote:
 I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
 sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or download it
 in PDF or html format.
 I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
 textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
 statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
 Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
 cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
 Any recommendation?


I'd say the situation is actually the opposite.  Anyway, the recent book by 
Brian Everitt and Torsten Hothorn (A handbook of statistical analyses using 
R. Chapman  Hall) is an excellent (and affordable) place to start. (I think 
that this book's context emphasizes that it is stats with R as the language: 
Everitt has (co)authored a bunch of others in other languages ---SAS, Stata, 
SPSS, etc).


Of course, there are many others that probably deserver a place on your (or 
your library's) shelves:

P. Dalgaard's
MASS
Maindonald  Braun
Heiberger  Holland
etc



HTH,


R.

 Thank you in advance,

 Iuri.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-21 Thread Dietrich Trenkler
Hi all,

I am very fond of Using R for Introductory Statistics
by John Verzani, 2005, Chapman  Hall.

Regards

D. Trenkler

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-21 Thread Dan Bebber
MJ Crawley Statistics: An Introduction Using R, received a good review in 
Journal of the Royal Statistical Society, Vol 169.


Dan Bebber

Dr. Daniel P. Bebber
Department of Plant Sciences
University of Oxford
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Oxford OX1 3RB
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[R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Iuri Gavronski
I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,  
sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or download it  
in PDF or html format.
I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R  
textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the  
statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,  
cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
Any recommendation?

Thank you in advance,

Iuri.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Richard M. Heiberger
I recommend mine, which is listed in CRAN,

Statistical Analysis and Data Display
Richard M. Heiberger and Burt Holland

   http://springeronline.com/0-387-40270-5

All examples and figures in the book are included in the online files that
may be downloaded from the book's website.  The R package HH containing
the R functions from the online files is now on CRAN.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Venables and Ripley's Modern Applied Statistics with S was recommended
on the CRAN site, and I like it myself.


On 9/20/06, Iuri Gavronski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
 sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or download it
 in PDF or html format.
 I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
 textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
 statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
 Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
 cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
 Any recommendation?

 Thank you in advance,

 Iuri.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Berton Gunter
Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
background, you may find it too telegraphic.

-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
 
The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iuri Gavronski
 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
 To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
 
 I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,  
 sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or 
 download it  
 in PDF or html format.
 I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R  
 textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the  
 statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
 Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,  
 cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
 Any recommendation?
 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 Iuri.
 
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Rob J Goedman
I would certainly consider the Michael Crawley's: Statistics, an  
introduction using R
(maybe before turning to MASS?).

Rob


On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Berton Gunter wrote:

 Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
 canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with  
 S) by
 Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
 background, you may find it too telegraphic.

 -- Bert Gunter
 Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
 South San Francisco, CA

 The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific  
 learning
 process.  - George E. P. Box



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
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 Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

 I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
 sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
 download it
 in PDF or html format.
 I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
 textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
 statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
 Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
 cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
 Any recommendation?

 Thank you in advance,

 Iuri.

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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Mike Nielsen
Excellent characterization.

MASS is a very good book, but I'm not sure I would describe it as a
statistics textbook, much less one of the basic variety.  While I
certainly wouldn't presume to speak for Prof. Ripley and Dr. Venables,
it seems unlikely their intent in writing MASS was to teach
statistics, but rather, as the name of the book might suggest, to
explain how S+ (and R) can be applied to modern statistical
techniques.  My experience with this book is that it assumes
considerable background knowledge.

By all means, buy MASS, but if you need guidance on the how and why of
statistical techniques, you may wish to shop Amazon to find a
supplement.

Regards,

Mike

On 9/20/06, Berton Gunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
 canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
 Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
 background, you may find it too telegraphic.

 -- Bert Gunter
 Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
 South San Francisco, CA

 The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
 process.  - George E. P. Box



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iuri Gavronski
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
  To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
  Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
 
  I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
  sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
  download it
  in PDF or html format.
  I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
  textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
  statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
  Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
  cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
  Any recommendation?
 
  Thank you in advance,
 
  Iuri.
 
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Charles Annis, P.E.
Recommending a good book on statistics is like recommending a good book on
sports:  Which sports?

A good book for learning statistical concepts (and learning R at the same
time), one that assumes you understand algebra but are new to statistics, is
Peter Dalgaard's _Introductory Statistics with R_ (Springer 2002).  The
writing is relaxed and succinct, not condescending as some texts might
appear to a newcomer.  It's just a good book.

Charles Annis, P.E.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 561-352-9699
eFax:  614-455-3265
http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Nielsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:36 PM
To: Berton Gunter
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

Excellent characterization.

MASS is a very good book, but I'm not sure I would describe it as a
statistics textbook, much less one of the basic variety.  While I
certainly wouldn't presume to speak for Prof. Ripley and Dr. Venables,
it seems unlikely their intent in writing MASS was to teach
statistics, but rather, as the name of the book might suggest, to
explain how S+ (and R) can be applied to modern statistical
techniques.  My experience with this book is that it assumes
considerable background knowledge.

By all means, buy MASS, but if you need guidance on the how and why of
statistical techniques, you may wish to shop Amazon to find a
supplement.

Regards,

Mike

On 9/20/06, Berton Gunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
 canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
 Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
 background, you may find it too telegraphic.

 -- Bert Gunter
 Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
 South San Francisco, CA

 The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
 process.  - George E. P. Box



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iuri Gavronski
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
  To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
  Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
 
  I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
  sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
  download it
  in PDF or html format.
  I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
  textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
  statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
  Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
  cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
  Any recommendation?
 
  Thank you in advance,
 
  Iuri.
 
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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

2006-09-20 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 18:56 -0400, Charles Annis, P.E. wrote:
 Recommending a good book on statistics is like recommending a good book on
 sports:  Which sports?
 
 A good book for learning statistical concepts (and learning R at the same
 time), one that assumes you understand algebra but are new to statistics, is
 Peter Dalgaard's _Introductory Statistics with R_ (Springer 2002).  The
 writing is relaxed and succinct, not condescending as some texts might
 appear to a newcomer.  It's just a good book.

I couldn't agree more. A number of my colleagues have bought Peter
Dalgaard's book to a) learn some R and b) learn some statistics. They
have found it very useful indeed.

G

 
 Charles Annis, P.E.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 phone: 561-352-9699
 eFax:  614-455-3265
 http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:36 PM
 To: Berton Gunter
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
 
 Excellent characterization.
 
 MASS is a very good book, but I'm not sure I would describe it as a
 statistics textbook, much less one of the basic variety.  While I
 certainly wouldn't presume to speak for Prof. Ripley and Dr. Venables,
 it seems unlikely their intent in writing MASS was to teach
 statistics, but rather, as the name of the book might suggest, to
 explain how S+ (and R) can be applied to modern statistical
 techniques.  My experience with this book is that it assumes
 considerable background knowledge.
 
 By all means, buy MASS, but if you need guidance on the how and why of
 statistical techniques, you may wish to shop Amazon to find a
 supplement.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 9/20/06, Berton Gunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
  canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
  Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
  background, you may find it too telegraphic.
 
  -- Bert Gunter
  Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
  South San Francisco, CA
 
  The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
  process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 
 
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iuri Gavronski
   Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
   To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
   Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
  
   I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
   sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
   download it
   in PDF or html format.
   I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
   textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
   statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
   Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
   cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
   Any recommendation?
  
   Thank you in advance,
  
   Iuri.
  
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