[R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
How do I cite a package (not R itself - I know how to do that)? Any 
thoughts or links?
Many thanks in advance?
Hank Stevens

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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:21, Martin Henry H. Stevens wrote:
 How do I cite a package (not R itself - I know how to do that)? Any 
 thoughts or links?
 Many thanks in advance?

I think it is the duty of a package author to write a citable paper, if
he thinks that such is needed. It could be useful to have this kind of
information easily available in the package, so that you do not have to
ask the authors how to cite their package. A natural looking place for
this kind of information is the package DESCRIPTION. However, there is
no standard entry for citation there. Now it seems that some packages
have a hint to citing (for instance, MASS: Functions and datasets to
support Venables and Ripley, 'Modern Applied Statistics with S' (4th
edition)), while some book-backed packages have no pointers to the book
(nlme, for instance). However, all CRAN packages have a pdf file of the
package documentation in CRAN. If citing URL is allowed in the journal,
this is a place to point.

cheers, jari oksanen 
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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Dear Martin,

I'd suggest you check the DESCRIPTION file and ask the author(s) of the 
package (e.g., a package might be related to a tech report which might, now, 
be in press, or whatever).

Best,

R.


On Monday 09 February 2004 15:21, Martin Henry H. Stevens wrote:
 How do I cite a package (not R itself - I know how to do that)? Any
 thoughts or links?
 Many thanks in advance?
 Hank Stevens

 Dr. Martin Henry H. Stevens, Assistant Professor
 338 Pearson Hall
 Botany Department
 Miami University
 Oxford, OH 45056

 Office: (513) 529-4206
 Lab: (513) 529-4262
 FAX: (513) 529-4243
 http://www.cas.muohio.edu/botany/bot/henry.html
 http://www.muohio.edu/ecology/
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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:

 Dear Martin,

 I'd suggest you check the DESCRIPTION file and ask the author(s) of the
 package (e.g., a package might be related to a tech report which might, now,
 be in press, or whatever).


The posted suggestions seem to be that you don't cite the package, you
cite something else vaguely related to it instead.  This violates both the
purpose of a citation (a link to the original source) and the principle
(which I hope R users support) that software is publishable in itself, not
just as an appendage to text.

Most citation styles give rules for citing software and rules for citing
URIs.  Even when the package author has been completely unhelpful in
constructing a package title you can still put together a perfectly
reasonable citation, eg,

Lumley T (2003) Rmeta version 2.10. R package. http://cran.r-project.org

Some publishers might want a download date, or an explicit statement that
it is software (eg to make searching easier).

-thomas

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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Spencer Graves
 While the idea of writing a citable paper is great and 
appropriate, I think the word duty is too strong.  Competent 
professionals can still make valuable contributions to the R Project 
without this kind of external publication. 

 In academia, at least in the US, professors are paid in part to 
publish. Outside of academia, anyone who wishes to publish has much less 
support for doing so, and is often actively discouraged by intellectual 
property clauses in employment contracts that require internal reviews 
by people with little understanding of how new knowledge is created. 

 We should all be thankful for the contributions made to R by those 
who can NOT even get credit for it in an annual performance review.  
Their contributions should be judged on utility to other R users, not on 
whether it is converted into a separate publication. 

 just my humble opinion. 
 spencer graves

Jari Oksanen wrote:

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:21, Martin Henry H. Stevens wrote:
 

How do I cite a package (not R itself - I know how to do that)? Any 
thoughts or links?
Many thanks in advance?
   

I think it is the duty of a package author to write a citable paper, if
he thinks that such is needed. It could be useful to have this kind of
information easily available in the package, so that you do not have to
ask the authors how to cite their package. A natural looking place for
this kind of information is the package DESCRIPTION. However, there is
no standard entry for citation there. Now it seems that some packages
have a hint to citing (for instance, MASS: Functions and datasets to
support Venables and Ripley, 'Modern Applied Statistics with S' (4th
edition)), while some book-backed packages have no pointers to the book
(nlme, for instance). However, all CRAN packages have a pdf file of the
package documentation in CRAN. If citing URL is allowed in the journal,
this is a place to point.
cheers, jari oksanen 
 

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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Bob Wheeler
I faced this problem recently when documenting the AlgDesign package. It 
contains some stuff the isn't in the literature, so I added a citation 
statement in the AUTHOR section of each function. Even after the 
material is published, I think a citation to a working model is quite 
appropriate.

Thomas Lumley wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:


Dear Martin,

I'd suggest you check the DESCRIPTION file and ask the author(s) of the
package (e.g., a package might be related to a tech report which might, now,
be in press, or whatever).


The posted suggestions seem to be that you don't cite the package, you
cite something else vaguely related to it instead.  This violates both the
purpose of a citation (a link to the original source) and the principle
(which I hope R users support) that software is publishable in itself, not
just as an appendage to text.
Most citation styles give rules for citing software and rules for citing
URIs.  Even when the package author has been completely unhelpful in
constructing a package title you can still put together a perfectly
reasonable citation, eg,
Lumley T (2003) Rmeta version 2.10. R package. http://cran.r-project.org

Some publishers might want a download date, or an explicit statement that
it is software (eg to make searching easier).
	-thomas

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Re: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
Thank you to all the contributors to my original post. It has been 
informative to me, and appears to have provoked a small but important 
discussion about how we perform our duties in our various capacities as 
creators, developers and users.
I like Thomas' suggestion,
eg,
Lumley T (2003) Rmeta version 2.10. R package. 
http://cran.r-project.org
in addition to citing papers or books that discuss details of use, 
e.g., citing Venalbles and Ripley (2002) Modern Applied Statistics with 
S, for the MASS package.

Thanks again,
Hank Stevens
On Feb 9, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Thomas Lumley wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:

Dear Martin,

I'd suggest you check the DESCRIPTION file and ask the author(s) of 
the
package (e.g., a package might be related to a tech report which 
might, now,
be in press, or whatever).

The posted suggestions seem to be that you don't cite the package, you
cite something else vaguely related to it instead.  This violates both 
the
purpose of a citation (a link to the original source) and the principle
(which I hope R users support) that software is publishable in itself, 
not
just as an appendage to text.

Most citation styles give rules for citing software and rules for 
citing
URIs.  Even when the package author has been completely unhelpful in
constructing a package title you can still put together a perfectly
reasonable citation, eg,

Lumley T (2003) Rmeta version 2.10. R package. 
http://cran.r-project.org

Some publishers might want a download date, or an explicit statement 
that
it is software (eg to make searching easier).

	-thomas


Dr. Martin Henry H. Stevens, Assistant Professor
338 Pearson Hall
Botany Department
Miami University
Oxford, OH 45056
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Lab: (513) 529-4262
FAX: (513) 529-4243
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RE: [R] citing a package?

2004-02-09 Thread Andy Bunn
I had a reviewer request a citation for a package that I had neglected to
cite. I followed a similar format to that suggested by Thomas Lumley and
also referenced a related book by the package's author. The editor thought
it was nifty.

My two cents.

-Andy

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