Re: [R] problem with weights on lmer function

2007-02-24 Thread Douglas Bates
On 2/23/07, Ronaldo Reis Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Em Quinta 22 Fevereiro 2007 20:36, Andrew Robinson escreveu:
  Hi Ronaldo,
 
  I suggest that you send us a small, well-documented, code example that
  we can reproduce.  It certainly looks as though there is a problem,
  but given this information it's hard to know what it is!
 
  Cheers
 
  Andrew

 Andrew and all R users.

 Look this example:

 test-structure(list(subject = structure(c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2), .Label = c(S1, S2), class = factor),
 time = c(0, 7, 15, 22, 32, 39, 46, 53, 0, 7, 14, 24, 28,
 34, 41, 48), noccup = c(0, 1, 2, 1, 6, 4, 3, 3, 0, 18,
 21, 14, 7, 14, 12, 8), ntotal = c(100, 100, 100, 100, 100,
 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100)), .Names =
 c(subject,
 time, noccup, ntotal), class = data.frame, row.names = c(1,
 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
 14, 15, 16))

 I have 2 subject over 8 times. Each subject is compound by 100 pieces. I
 measure the number of piece occuped in any time.

 I try this:

 m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~time+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
 Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  :
 object `weights' of incorrect type

 I dont understand why this error.

 m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~1+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
 Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  :
 object `weights' of incorrect type

 Why weights is of incorrect type? In glm this is correct type.

I don't get such an error using lme4 0.9975-10 under R-2.4.1 on
i386-apple-darwin8.8.1

Of course the model fit is singular because you are attempting to
estimate 3 variance-covariance components from 2 groups.

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Re: [R] problem with weights on lmer function

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi Ronaldo,

Thanks, that's helpful!  I also don't get an error.  Mind you, I added

data=test

to the model call.  This is my system:

 sessionInfo()
R version 2.4.1 Patched (2006-12-30 r40330) 
i386-unknown-freebsd6.1 

locale:
C

attached base packages:
[1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets
methods  
[7] base 

other attached packages:
   lme4  Matrix lattice 
0.9975-13 0.9975-11   0.14-16 


Cheers,

Andrew

On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 07:46:09AM -0600, Douglas Bates wrote:
 On 2/23/07, Ronaldo Reis Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Em Quinta 22 Fevereiro 2007 20:36, Andrew Robinson escreveu:
   Hi Ronaldo,
  
   I suggest that you send us a small, well-documented, code example that
   we can reproduce.  It certainly looks as though there is a problem,
   but given this information it's hard to know what it is!
  
   Cheers
  
   Andrew
 
  Andrew and all R users.
 
  Look this example:
 
  test-structure(list(subject = structure(c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
  2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2), .Label = c(S1, S2), class = factor),
  time = c(0, 7, 15, 22, 32, 39, 46, 53, 0, 7, 14, 24, 28,
  34, 41, 48), noccup = c(0, 1, 2, 1, 6, 4, 3, 3, 0, 18,
  21, 14, 7, 14, 12, 8), ntotal = c(100, 100, 100, 100, 100,
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100)), .Names =
  c(subject,
  time, noccup, ntotal), class = data.frame, row.names = c(1,
  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
  14, 15, 16))
 
  I have 2 subject over 8 times. Each subject is compound by 100 pieces. I
  measure the number of piece occuped in any time.
 
  I try this:
 
  m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~time+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
  Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  :
  object `weights' of incorrect type
 
  I dont understand why this error.
 
  m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~1+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
  Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  :
  object `weights' of incorrect type
 
  Why weights is of incorrect type? In glm this is correct type.
 
 I don't get such an error using lme4 0.9975-10 under R-2.4.1 on
 i386-apple-darwin8.8.1
 
 Of course the model fit is singular because you are attempting to
 estimate 3 variance-covariance components from 2 groups.
 
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Re: [R] problem with weights on lmer function

2007-02-23 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Em Quinta 22 Fevereiro 2007 20:36, Andrew Robinson escreveu:
 Hi Ronaldo,

 I suggest that you send us a small, well-documented, code example that
 we can reproduce.  It certainly looks as though there is a problem,
 but given this information it's hard to know what it is!

 Cheers

 Andrew

Andrew and all R users.

Look this example:

test-structure(list(subject = structure(c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 
2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2), .Label = c(S1, S2), class = factor), 
time = c(0, 7, 15, 22, 32, 39, 46, 53, 0, 7, 14, 24, 28, 
34, 41, 48), noccup = c(0, 1, 2, 1, 6, 4, 3, 3, 0, 18, 
21, 14, 7, 14, 12, 8), ntotal = c(100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100)), .Names = 
c(subject, 
time, noccup, ntotal), class = data.frame, row.names = c(1, 
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 
14, 15, 16))

I have 2 subject over 8 times. Each subject is compound by 100 pieces. I 
measure the number of piece occuped in any time.

I try this:

m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~time+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  : 
object `weights' of incorrect type

I dont understand why this error.

m1-lmer(noccup/ntotal~1+(time|subject),family=binomial,weights=ntotal)
Error in lmer(noccup/ntotal ~ time + (time | subject), family = binomial,  : 
object `weights' of incorrect type

Why weights is of incorrect type? In glm this is correct type.

Thanks
Ronaldo

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[R] problem with weights on lmer function

2007-02-22 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Hi,

I try to make a model using lmer, but the weigths is not accept.

m1-lmer(ocup/total~tempo+(tempo|estacao),family=binomial,weights=total)

Erro em lmer(ocup/total ~ tempo + (tempo | estacao), family = binomial,  : 
object `weights' of incorrect type

I dont understand why this error, with glm this work. the total object is a 
vector.

Any idea?

Thanks
Ronaldo
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God is subtle, but he is not malicious.
-- Albert Einstein
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Re: [R] problem with weights on lmer function

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi Ronaldo,

I suggest that you send us a small, well-documented, code example that
we can reproduce.  It certainly looks as though there is a problem,
but given this information it's hard to know what it is!

Cheers

Andrew

On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:22:03PM -0200, Ronaldo Reis Junior wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I try to make a model using lmer, but the weigths is not accept.
 
 m1-lmer(ocup/total~tempo+(tempo|estacao),family=binomial,weights=total)
 
 Erro em lmer(ocup/total ~ tempo + (tempo | estacao), family = binomial,  : 
   object `weights' of incorrect type
 
 I dont understand why this error, with glm this work. the total object is a 
 vector.
 
 Any idea?
 
 Thanks
 Ronaldo
 -- 
 God is subtle, but he is not malicious.
   -- Albert Einstein
 --
  Prof. Ronaldo Reis J?nior
 |  .''`. UNIMONTES/Depto. Biologia Geral/Lab. Ecologia Evolutiva
 | : :'  : Campus Universit?rio Prof. Darcy Ribeiro, Vila Mauric?ia
 | `. `'` CP: 126, CEP: 39401-089, Montes Claros - MG - Brasil
 |   `- Fone: (38) 3229-8190 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | ICQ#: 5692561 | LinuxUser#: 205366
 
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