Re: [R] tcltk error on Linux

2007-08-09 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Mark W Kimpel wrote:

 I am having trouble getting tcltk package to load on openSuse 10.2
 running R-devel. I have specifically put my /usr/share/tcl directory in
 my PATH, but R doesn't seem to see it. I also have installed tk on my
 system. Any ideas on what the problem is?

Whether Tcl/Tk would available was determined when you installed R.  The 
relevant information was in the configure output and log, which we don't 
have.

You are not running a released version of R: please don't use the 
development version unless you are familiar with the build process and 
know how to debug such things yourself.  The rule is that questions about 
development versions of R should not be asked here but on R-devel (and not 
to R-core which I have deleted from the recipients).

I suggest reinstalling R (preferably R-patched) and if tcltk still is not 
available sending the relevant configure information to the R-devel list.

 Also, note that I have some warning messages on starting up R, not sure
 what they mean or if they are pertinent.

Those are coming from a Bioconductor package: again you must be using 
development versions with R-devel and those are not stable (last time I 
looked even Biobase would not install, and the packages change daily).

If you have all those packages in your startup, please don't -- there will 
be a considerable performance hit so only load them when you need them.


 Thanks, Mark

 Warning messages:
 1: In .updateMethodsInTable(fdef, where, attach) :
   Couldn't find methods table for conditional, package Category may
 be out of date
 2: In .updateMethodsInTable(fdef, where, attach) :
   Methods list for generic conditional not found
  require(tcltk)
 Loading required package: tcltk
 Error in firstlib(which.lib.loc, package) :
   Tcl/Tk support is not available on this system
  sessionInfo()
 R version 2.6.0 Under development (unstable) (2007-08-01 r42387)
 i686-pc-linux-gnu

 locale:
 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8;LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8;LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8;LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NAME=C;LC_ADDRESS=C;LC_TELEPHONE=C;LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8;LC_IDENTIFICATION=C

 attached base packages:
 [1] splines   tools stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets
 [8] methods   base

 other attached packages:
  [1] affycoretools_1.9.3annaffy_1.9.1  xtable_1.5-0
  [4] gcrma_2.9.1matchprobes_1.9.10 biomaRt_1.11.4
  [7] RCurl_0.8-1XML_1.9-0  GOstats_2.3.8
 [10] Category_2.3.19genefilter_1.15.9  survival_2.32
 [13] KEGG_1.17.0RBGL_1.13.3annotate_1.15.3
 [16] AnnotationDbi_0.0.88   RSQLite_0.6-0  DBI_0.2-3
 [19] GO_1.17.0  limma_2.11.9   affy_1.15.7
 [22] preprocessCore_0.99.12 affyio_1.5.6   Biobase_1.15.23
 [25] graph_1.15.10

 loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
 [1] cluster_1.11.7  rcompgen_0.1-15
 



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Re: [R] tcltk error on Linux

2007-08-09 Thread Seth Falcon
Hi Mark,

Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Mark W Kimpel wrote:

 I am having trouble getting tcltk package to load on openSuse 10.2
 running R-devel. I have specifically put my /usr/share/tcl directory in
 my PATH, but R doesn't seem to see it. I also have installed tk on my
 system. Any ideas on what the problem is?

Any chance you are running R on a remote server using an ssh session?
If that is the case, you may have an ssh/X11 config issue that
prevents using tcl/tk from such a session.

Rerun the configure script for R and verify that tcl/tk support is
listed in the summary.

 Also, note that I have some warning messages on starting up R, not sure
 what they mean or if they are pertinent.

 Those are coming from a Bioconductor package: again you must be using 
 development versions with R-devel and those are not stable (last time I 
 looked even Biobase would not install, and the packages change
 daily).

BioC devel tracks R-devel, but not on a daily basis -- because R
changes daily.  The recent issues with Biobase are a result of changes
to R and have already been fixed.

 If you have all those packages in your startup, please don't -- there will 
 be a considerable performance hit so only load them when you need
 them.

Presumably, that's why they are there in the first place.  The warning
messages are a problem and suggest some needed improvements to the
methods packages.  These are being worked on.

+ seth

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BioC: http://bioconductor.org/
Blog: http://userprimary.net/user/

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Re: [R] tcltk error on Linux

2007-08-09 Thread Mark W Kimpel
Seth and Brian,

Today and downloaded and installed the latest R-devel and tcltk now 
works. My suspicion is that Tcl was not on my path when R-devel was 
installed previously.

BTW, I had though that is was a courtesy to cc: the maintainers of a 
package when writing either R-devel or R-help about a specific package. 
For tcltk, I see:
Maintainer:R Core Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If it is not appropriate to write R-core regarding packages they 
maintain, would it perhaps not be better to remove them as maintainers 
or, not suggest that people cc: maintainers of packages? Just an idea.

As for the suggestion that I not use R-devel, I do that because I 
sometimes use BioC packages that have just been published and are only 
available in the devel versions of BioC. Are you suggesting that only 
people who can debug things themselves, and thus who do not need to 
write to R-devel, use R-devel? As an open-source user, I thought the 
philosophy was that it was useful to have users willing to test beta 
versions of software and have those users report problems to developers. 
If that is not the case, please put a stronger warning on R-devel and 
warn users not to use it unless they are willing to debug and take 
care of all problems themselves.

Thanks,

Mark

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Indiana University School of Medicine

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Seth Falcon wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 
 Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Mark W Kimpel wrote:

 I am having trouble getting tcltk package to load on openSuse 10.2
 running R-devel. I have specifically put my /usr/share/tcl directory in
 my PATH, but R doesn't seem to see it. I also have installed tk on my
 system. Any ideas on what the problem is?
 
 Any chance you are running R on a remote server using an ssh session?
 If that is the case, you may have an ssh/X11 config issue that
 prevents using tcl/tk from such a session.
 
 Rerun the configure script for R and verify that tcl/tk support is
 listed in the summary.
 
 Also, note that I have some warning messages on starting up R, not sure
 what they mean or if they are pertinent.
 Those are coming from a Bioconductor package: again you must be using 
 development versions with R-devel and those are not stable (last time I 
 looked even Biobase would not install, and the packages change
 daily).
 
 BioC devel tracks R-devel, but not on a daily basis -- because R
 changes daily.  The recent issues with Biobase are a result of changes
 to R and have already been fixed.
 
 If you have all those packages in your startup, please don't -- there will 
 be a considerable performance hit so only load them when you need
 them.
 
 Presumably, that's why they are there in the first place.  The warning
 messages are a problem and suggest some needed improvements to the
 methods packages.  These are being worked on.
 
 + seth


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[R] tcltk error on Linux

2007-08-08 Thread Mark W Kimpel
I am having trouble getting tcltk package to load on openSuse 10.2 
running R-devel. I have specifically put my /usr/share/tcl directory in 
my PATH, but R doesn't seem to see it. I also have installed tk on my 
system. Any ideas on what the problem is?

Also, note that I have some warning messages on starting up R, not sure 
what they mean or if they are pertinent.

Thanks, Mark

Warning messages:
1: In .updateMethodsInTable(fdef, where, attach) :
   Couldn't find methods table for conditional, package Category may 
be out of date
2: In .updateMethodsInTable(fdef, where, attach) :
   Methods list for generic conditional not found
  require(tcltk)
Loading required package: tcltk
Error in firstlib(which.lib.loc, package) :
   Tcl/Tk support is not available on this system
  sessionInfo()
R version 2.6.0 Under development (unstable) (2007-08-01 r42387)
i686-pc-linux-gnu

locale:
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8;LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8;LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8;LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NAME=C;LC_ADDRESS=C;LC_TELEPHONE=C;LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8;LC_IDENTIFICATION=C

attached base packages:
[1] splines   tools stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets
[8] methods   base

other attached packages:
  [1] affycoretools_1.9.3annaffy_1.9.1  xtable_1.5-0
  [4] gcrma_2.9.1matchprobes_1.9.10 biomaRt_1.11.4
  [7] RCurl_0.8-1XML_1.9-0  GOstats_2.3.8
[10] Category_2.3.19genefilter_1.15.9  survival_2.32
[13] KEGG_1.17.0RBGL_1.13.3annotate_1.15.3
[16] AnnotationDbi_0.0.88   RSQLite_0.6-0  DBI_0.2-3
[19] GO_1.17.0  limma_2.11.9   affy_1.15.7
[22] preprocessCore_0.99.12 affyio_1.5.6   Biobase_1.15.23
[25] graph_1.15.10

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] cluster_1.11.7  rcompgen_0.1-15
 

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Indiana University School of Medicine

15032 Hunter Court, Westfield, IN  46074

(317) 490-5129 Work,  Mobile  VoiceMail
(317) 663-0513 Home (no voice mail please)

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