Re: [R] Generalized Estimating Equations and log-likelihood calculation

2004-02-19 Thread Henric Nilsson
At 18:29 2004-02-18, you wrote:

Is anyone aware of a way to calculate log-likelihood for GEE models?
No. GEE fitting is based on quasi-likelihood.

However, it is possible to derive AIC-like measures based on the 
quasi-likelihood. Lebreton et al (1992) suggested a simple adjustment in 
the GLM case, i.e. when using family=quasibinomal or quasipoisson. For GEE 
models, Pan (2001) has introduced QIC. None of these measures are 
implemented in R or in any add-on package as far as I know.

Henric

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Re: [R] Generalized Estimating Equations and log-likelihood calculation

2004-02-19 Thread Henric Nilsson
At 09:17 2004-02-19, you wrote:

For GEE models, Pan (2001) has introduced QIC. None of these measures are 
implemented in R or in any add-on package as far as I know.
Actually, take a look at 
http://hisdu.sph.uq.edu.au/lsu/SSAI%20course/course_tools.htm

Henric

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Re: [R] Generalized Estimating Equations and log-likelihood calculation

2004-02-18 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm working with clustered data sets and trying to calculate log-likelihood 
 (and/or AIC, AICc) for my models.  In using the gee and geese packages one 
 gets Wald test output; but apparently there is no no applicable method 
 for logLik (log-likelihood)calculation.
 
 Is anyone aware of a way to calculate log-likelihood for GEE models?

No (as with GLM quasi- models, it is not defined in general).  Even if
there were, you would have find the maximized log-likelihood to find AIC,
and by definition GEE is not ML fitting except in a few special cases.

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