Re: [R] Robust fitting

2005-11-28 Thread Kristel Joossens
http://www.maths.lth.se/help/R/.R/library/R.basic/html/robust.smooth.spline.html

Best regards,
Kristel

Marta Colombo wrote:
 Good evening,I am Marta Colombo, student of Politecnico di Milano. I'm 
 studying Local Regression Techniques such as loess, smoothing splines and 
 kernel smoothers. Choosing symmetric for the argument family in loess 
 function it is possible to produce a robust estimate , in function 
 smooth.spline and ksmooth I didn't find this possibility. Well, is there a 
 way to produce a robust estimate using smoothing splines or kernel smoothers? 
 And if the answer is no, why? I'm asking these questions because I need to 
 know loess' advantages and disadvantages compared to other techniques. Thank 
 you very much for attention,
 
 Marta Colombo
 
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Re: [R] Robust fitting

2005-11-28 Thread Berton Gunter
Note:

As I believe Brian Ripley pointed out in his MASS book, loess may not be as
resistant to outliers (which is one aspect of robustness; robustness of
efficiency is another) as you think. The problem is that it starts off with
LS estimates and these can be so distorted by unusual values that the
reweighting cannot properly recover; i.e. convergence is to a local minimum
far from the desired global one. You might wish to read the documentation
for rlm() (in MASS, the package) and the appropriate sections of MASS, the
book. 

Cheers,

-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
 
The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 

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 Good evening,I am Marta Colombo, student of Politecnico di 
 Milano. I'm studying Local Regression Techniques such as 
 loess, smoothing splines and kernel smoothers. Choosing 
 symmetric for the argument family in loess function it is 
 possible to produce a robust estimate , in function 
 smooth.spline and ksmooth I didn't find this possibility. 
 Well, is there a way to produce a robust estimate using 
 smoothing splines or kernel smoothers? And if the answer is 
 no, why? I'm asking these questions because I need to know 
 loess' advantages and disadvantages compared to other 
 techniques. Thank you very much for attention,
 
 Marta Colombo
 
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