Re: [R] Two factor (or more) non-parametric comparison of means

2005-10-11 Thread Johan Sandblom
?kruskal.test

2005/10/11, John Sorkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Can anyone suggest a good non-parametric test, and an R implementation of the 
 test,  that allows for two or more factors? Wilcoxon signed rank allows for 
 only one.
 Thanks,
 John

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Re: [R] Two factor (or more) non-parametric comparison of means

2005-10-11 Thread Marc Schwartz (via MN)
I suspect that John may be looking for ?friedman.test, which I believe
will allow for a two-way non-parametric test.

kruskal.test() will perform a non-parametric test on two or more samples
(or factor levels) as a generalization of wilcox.test() for one or two
samples (or factor levels).

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 18:22 +0200, Johan Sandblom wrote:
 ?kruskal.test
 
 2005/10/11, John Sorkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Can anyone suggest a good non-parametric test, and an R
 implementation of the test,  that allows for two or more factors?
 Wilcoxon signed rank allows for only one.
  Thanks,
  John

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Re: [R] Two factor (or more) non-parametric comparison of means

2005-10-11 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Marc Schwartz (via MN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I suspect that John may be looking for ?friedman.test, which I believe
 will allow for a two-way non-parametric test.

You could be right, but you could also be wrong... It depends quite a
bit on what is meant by a two-factor  comparison of means. If he
literally means means (!), then a permutation test (permuting within
levels of the other factor) could be appropriate. It also makes a
difference whether there's a single replication or more per cell in
the cross-classification.

 kruskal.test() will perform a non-parametric test on two or more samples
 (or factor levels) as a generalization of wilcox.test() for one or two
 samples (or factor levels).
 
 HTH,
 
 Marc Schwartz
 
 On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 18:22 +0200, Johan Sandblom wrote:
  ?kruskal.test
  
  2005/10/11, John Sorkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Can anyone suggest a good non-parametric test, and an R
  implementation of the test,  that allows for two or more factors?
  Wilcoxon signed rank allows for only one.
   Thanks,
   John
 
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Re: [R] Two factor (or more) non-parametric comparison of means

2005-10-11 Thread Marc Schwartz (via MN)
Peter,

Good points all around.

Hopefully John will provide further clarification.

Best regards,

Marc

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 19:46 +0200, Peter Dalgaard wrote:
 Marc Schwartz (via MN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I suspect that John may be looking for ?friedman.test, which I believe
  will allow for a two-way non-parametric test.
 
 You could be right, but you could also be wrong... It depends quite a
 bit on what is meant by a two-factor  comparison of means. If he
 literally means means (!), then a permutation test (permuting within
 levels of the other factor) could be appropriate. It also makes a
 difference whether there's a single replication or more per cell in
 the cross-classification.
 
  kruskal.test() will perform a non-parametric test on two or more samples
  (or factor levels) as a generalization of wilcox.test() for one or two
  samples (or factor levels).
  
  HTH,
  
  Marc Schwartz
  
  On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 18:22 +0200, Johan Sandblom wrote:
   ?kruskal.test
   
   2005/10/11, John Sorkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can anyone suggest a good non-parametric test, and an R
   implementation of the test,  that allows for two or more factors?
   Wilcoxon signed rank allows for only one.
Thanks,
John
  
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