Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
And it seems that this vicious circle continues forever. Before
posting these kind of messages can you please read the INSTRUCTIONS.
fBasics_190.10051.zip is a COMPILED version of the package, not
a source as you claim to be!
It works with no problems; well, at least under Linux.
Janusz.
Richard A. O'Keefe wrote:
Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
and that took me about 3 minutes.
Now me, I just did
unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
R CMD INSTALL fBasics
rm -rf fBasics
in a naive and trusting manner. It took me considerably longer than 3
minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
I wondered if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do it?
Now I discover that it isn't that simple. The installation apparently
went smoothly. This is R, right? Never occurred to me that there might
be problems.
Now, B-G--R! It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.
The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL c).
In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
Windows, that's perfectly OK.
**BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that really
should be highlighted in big bold letters: this is a WINDOWS BINARY
version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a day
of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.
There is *NOTHING* on http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
that says Windows only. Click on I acceptand the page you arrive at has
nothing in the text anywhere that says Windows only or what to do if not
Windows. (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the page
was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)
It would of course be nice if the developers had done
R CMD check fBasics
But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.
and sorted out the errors, then
R CMD build fBasics
Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).
Will it work if I download the Sources packages?
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Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Hello all:
On my linux platform, I ran the commands,
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
That was 3 minutes. Next, I copied the files contained in
fBasics.Rcheck/fBasics to the R library.
library(fBasics)
fBasics:Markets, Basic Statistics, Date and TimeError in
try(winMenuAdd(Rmetrics)) : couldn't find function winMenuAdd
So, how do I get it to work with no problems in Linux??
Thanks,
Andrew
Janusz Kawczak wrote:
And it seems that this vicious circle continues forever. Before
posting these kind of messages can you please read the INSTRUCTIONS.
fBasics_190.10051.zip is a COMPILED version of the package, not
a source as you claim to be!
It works with no problems; well, at least under Linux.
Janusz.
Richard A. O'Keefe wrote:
Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
and that took me about 3 minutes.
Now me, I just did
unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
R CMD INSTALL fBasics
rm -rf fBasics
in a naive and trusting manner. It took me considerably longer than 3
minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
I wondered if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do it?
Now I discover that it isn't that simple. The installation apparently
went smoothly. This is R, right? Never occurred to me that there might
be problems.
Now, B-G--R! It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.
The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL c).
In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
Windows, that's perfectly OK.
**BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that really
should be highlighted in big bold letters: this is a WINDOWS BINARY
version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a day
of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.
There is *NOTHING* on http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
that says Windows only. Click on I acceptand the page you arrive at has
nothing in the text anywhere that says Windows only or what to do if not
Windows. (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the page
was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)
It would of course be nice if the developers had done
R CMD check fBasics
But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.
and sorted out the errors, then
R CMD build fBasics
Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).
Will it work if I download the Sources packages?
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Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Here is what I get:
R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
Version 1.9.0 (2004-04-12), ISBN 3-900051-00-3
.
[Previously saved workspace restored]
library(fBasics)
---
fLibraries: A SOFTWARE COLLECTION FOR FINANCIAL ENGINEERS
fBasics:Markets, Basic Statistics, Date and Time
---
(there were no alterations done to the above output except where
occurs!)
You simply need to remove the stuff related to MS Win from zzz.R;
in partricular the lines after if( ) to clear your message.
As you can see, the info relates to the WinMenu under MS Win.
Hope this helps.
Janusz.
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Andrew Criswell wrote:
Hello all:
On my linux platform, I ran the commands,
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
That was 3 minutes. Next, I copied the files contained in
fBasics.Rcheck/fBasics to the R library.
library(fBasics)
fBasics:Markets, Basic Statistics, Date and TimeError in
try(winMenuAdd(Rmetrics)) : couldn't find function winMenuAdd
So, how do I get it to work with no problems in Linux??
Thanks,
Andrew
Janusz Kawczak wrote:
And it seems that this vicious circle continues forever. Before
posting these kind of messages can you please read the INSTRUCTIONS.
fBasics_190.10051.zip is a COMPILED version of the package, not
a source as you claim to be!
It works with no problems; well, at least under Linux.
Janusz.
Richard A. O'Keefe wrote:
Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
and that took me about 3 minutes.
Now me, I just did
unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
R CMD INSTALL fBasics
rm -rf fBasics
in a naive and trusting manner. It took me considerably longer than 3
minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
I wondered if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do it?
Now I discover that it isn't that simple. The installation apparently
went smoothly. This is R, right? Never occurred to me that there might
be problems.
Now, B-G--R! It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.
The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL c).
In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
Windows, that's perfectly OK.
**BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that really
should be highlighted in big bold letters: this is a WINDOWS BINARY
version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a day
of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.
There is *NOTHING* on http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
that says Windows only. Click on I acceptand the page you arrive at has
nothing in the text anywhere that says Windows only or what to do if not
Windows. (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the page
was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)
It would of course be nice if the developers had done
R CMD check fBasics
But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.
and sorted out the errors, then
R CMD build fBasics
Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).
Will it work if I download the Sources packages?
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Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Yes, I agree with Ajay Shah's comments. The Rmetrics website makes a virtue of open source yet the Rmetrics people do not make available their package for the open source platform, Linux. Ajay Shah wrote: Rmetrics - New Version is available for R 1.9 !! in R-binary and R-source form from the site http://www.rmetrics.org;, and install the binary zip files in the usual way via the menu I'm confused - does the fact that you are only distributing .zip files means that (shudder) I need Microsoft Windows in order to run this? (I hunted on the website but you seemed to only have .zip files. That's very odd; normally on Unix we don't ship .zip files). More generally: Do all R packages automatically run on Unix, or are we fragmenting the CRAN code base into Unix and non-Unix packages? One of my reasons for shifting to R was that it felt like a system that was built by Unix people (roots in Bell Labs etc.). So it will have a function like sink() as a nice counterpart to a function like source() :-) Ox, for example, has nice functionality but it felt like it was done by Windows guys, so it wasn't going to be useful to me, and I kept away. If R packages are actually in two (intersecting) sets : those that run on Unix and those that run on Windows, then do we need a CRAN/Unix and CRAN/M$ directories to distinguish them? It will avoid a lot of wasted time... e.g. I blew half an hour on investigating Rmetrics before deciding they're a Windows crowd. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
RE: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Hi Andrew, You mentioned: Yes, I agree with Ajay Shah's comments. The Rmetrics website makes a virtue of open source yet the Rmetrics people do not make available their package for the open source platform, Linux. Actually, I think they do. A quick perusal of the site indicated to me on page 2 of the Overview Flyer http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/pdf/DocRmetrics.pdf: Why using MS Windows? In the financial community Windows is the mostly used operating system. For a broad distribution and acceptance of Rmetrics, we decided to develop the software under Windows 2000/XP. But nevertheless, since all source code is available it may be straightforward to adapt and compile the software for other operating systems. And right on the home page, I see The growing Rmetrics collection is based on many statistical and financial functions which were contributed by myself, my students, or were ported from other sources during the last few years. The work is by far not complete and parts of the software are still untested, and may contain some bugs. It seems to me Dr Wuertz has done an awful lot already, and that out of the box availability for Linux or other platforms will likely come as the community of its users grows. I found a folder in the Downloads section called http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9/Sources/ and if I remember correctly, there are multiple Linux/Unix utilities out there to handle Windows .zip files. Finally I must say that this is the first time I can ever recall objections about R or any *open source* software that was available on Windows but not on Linux/Unix. Of course the opposite direction case still occurs often enough, I guess. Best Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Criswell Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics) Yes, I agree with Ajay Shah's comments. The Rmetrics website makes a virtue of open source yet the Rmetrics people do not make available their package for the open source platform, Linux. Ajay Shah wrote: Rmetrics - New Version is available for R 1.9 !! in R-binary and R-source form from the site http://www.rmetrics.org;, and install the binary zip files in the usual way via the menu I'm confused - does the fact that you are only distributing .zip files means that (shudder) I need Microsoft Windows in order to run this? (I hunted on the website but you seemed to only have .zip files. That's very odd; normally on Unix we don't ship .zip files). More generally: Do all R packages automatically run on Unix, or are we fragmenting the CRAN code base into Unix and non-Unix packages? One of my reasons for shifting to R was that it felt like a system that was built by Unix people (roots in Bell Labs etc.). So it will have a function like sink() as a nice counterpart to a function like source() :-) Ox, for example, has nice functionality but it felt like it was done by Windows guys, so it wasn't going to be useful to me, and I kept away. If R packages are actually in two (intersecting) sets : those that run on Unix and those that run on Windows, then do we need a CRAN/Unix and CRAN/M$ directories to distinguish them? It will avoid a lot of wasted time... e.g. I blew half an hour on investigating Rmetrics before deciding they're a Windows crowd. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Yes, I agree with Ajay Shah's comments. The Rmetrics website makes a virtue of open source yet the Rmetrics people do not make available their package for the open source platform, Linux. It wouldn't be difficult to create a source tarball and submit it to them __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Re: Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: [R] Rmetrics)
Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkdir fBasics
unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
rm fBasics/src/*.o
R CMD check fBasics
and that took me about 3 minutes.
Now me, I just did
unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
R CMD INSTALL fBasics
rm -rf fBasics
in a naive and trusting manner. It took me considerably longer than 3
minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
I wondered if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do it?
Now I discover that it isn't that simple. The installation apparently
went smoothly. This is R, right? Never occurred to me that there might
be problems.
Now, B-G--R! It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.
The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL c).
In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
Windows, that's perfectly OK.
**BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that really
should be highlighted in big bold letters: this is a WINDOWS BINARY
version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a day
of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.
There is *NOTHING* on http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
that says Windows only. Click on I acceptand the page you arrive at has
nothing in the text anywhere that says Windows only or what to do if not
Windows. (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the page
was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)
It would of course be nice if the developers had done
R CMD check fBasics
But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.
and sorted out the errors, then
R CMD build fBasics
Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).
Will it work if I download the Sources packages?
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