[R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Barbara Baraibar Padro
Hello list, 
I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments and a 
fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no problems with 
it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of biomass values 
sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my species are contributing 
with more biomass to the community in each treatment, that is, I'd like to 
create a graph such as the one that you get from the option plot (nmds_model,  
type=t, display=c(species)) but instead of getting just the names of the 
species, I'd like to see dots of different sizes that would refer to the 
abundance of each of the species, is that possible at all? I know you can do it 
with CANOCO but wanted to ask if there is a way to do it in R.

I have searched the internet and found something that looks like what I want to 
do (enclosed to the mail) but haven't found the way to do it. 

I have already done an Indicator Species Analysis with the multipatt function. 
That gives me information about the species that are related to some treatments 
but here I'm just looking for the species with more and less biomass in each 
treatment.

Thank you very much!!
Barbara



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Plant Sciences Department
Penn State University
University Park, Pennsylvania 16802

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Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Barbara Baraibar Padro
Dear Roman, Sara and Phil, 
Thanks so much for your help!! After some playing around with your different 
options, I got the graph I was looking for (attached). 
I wasn't using the right words to look for help. 
Thanks a lot!! 
Barbara 


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From: Roman Luštrik roman.lust...@gmail.com 
To: Barbara Baraibar Padro bu...@psu.edu 
Cc: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:42:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance 

After clicking send I remembered that you might want to scale circle sizes 
according to their area, not radius (which is the default to draw). Then I went 
to see the link Sarah posted and it deals with this, too (great minds think 
alike? :) ). 

Cheers, 
Roman 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Roman Luštrik  roman.lust...@gmail.com  
wrote: 



Assuming you're working with metaMDS from vegan, it's trivial to extract NMDS 
scores, add some variable and plot the data. The following code would be easy 
to translate into a generic function. 

library(vegan) 

data(dune) 
sol - metaMDS(dune) 

# add some variable that will correspond to size of points 
spc - as.data.frame(cbind(sol$species, mysize = runif(nrow(sol$species 
pts - as.data.frame(sol$points) 

library(ggplot2) 

ggplot(spc, aes(x = MDS1, y = MDS2)) + 
theme_bw() + 
geom_point(aes(size = mysize), pch = 1) + 
geom_point(data = pts, color = red) 


Cheers, 
Roman 


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Barbara Baraibar Padro  bu...@psu.edu  
wrote: 

blockquote
Hello list, 
I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments and a 
fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no problems with 
it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of biomass values 
sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my species are contributing 
with more biomass to the community in each treatment, that is, I'd like to 
create a graph such as the one that you get from the option plot (nmds_model, 
type=t, display=c(species)) but instead of getting just the names of the 
species, I'd like to see dots of different sizes that would refer to the 
abundance of each of the species, is that possible at all? I know you can do it 
with CANOCO but wanted to ask if there is a way to do it in R. 

I have searched the internet and found something that looks like what I want to 
do (enclosed to the mail) but haven't found the way to do it. 

I have already done an Indicator Species Analysis with the multipatt function. 
That gives me information about the species that are related to some treatments 
but here I'm just looking for the species with more and less biomass in each 
treatment. 

Thank you very much!! 
Barbara 



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Post-doctoral scholar - Weed and Applied Plant Ecology 
Plant Sciences Department 
Penn State University 
University Park, Pennsylvania 16802 

web-site: http://www.weedecologypsu.com 

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Plant Sciences Department 
Penn State University 
University Park, Pennsylvania 16802 

web-site:http://www.weedecologypsu.com 

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Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Sarah Goslee
Hi Barbara,

You don't provide a reproducible example or even tell us what
package/function you used to create your NMDS ordination, but you can
extract the coordinates, and use them plus your cover values to create
a bubble plot in several different ways, including symbols(), the pch
argument to base plotting functions, and ggplot().

There's a nice tutorial for one method here:
http://flowingdata.com/2010/11/23/how-to-make-bubble-charts/
but searching for bubble plot in R will get you many more options.

Sarah

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Barbara Baraibar Padro bu...@psu.edu wrote:
 Hello list,
 I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments and a 
 fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no problems with 
 it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of biomass values 
 sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my species are contributing 
 with more biomass to the community in each treatment, that is, I'd like to 
 create a graph such as the one that you get from the option plot 
 (nmds_model,  type=t, display=c(species)) but instead of getting just the 
 names of the species, I'd like to see dots of different sizes that would 
 refer to the abundance of each of the species, is that possible at all? I 
 know you can do it with CANOCO but wanted to ask if there is a way to do it 
 in R.

 I have searched the internet and found something that looks like what I want 
 to do (enclosed to the mail) but haven't found the way to do it.

 I have already done an Indicator Species Analysis with the multipatt 
 function. That gives me information about the species that are related to 
 some treatments but here I'm just looking for the species with more and less 
 biomass in each treatment.

 Thank you very much!!
 Barbara




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Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Luštrik
Assuming you're working with metaMDS from vegan, it's trivial to extract
NMDS scores, add some variable and plot the data. The following code would
be easy to translate into a generic function.

library(vegan)

data(dune)
sol - metaMDS(dune)

# add some variable that will correspond to size of points
spc - as.data.frame(cbind(sol$species, mysize = runif(nrow(sol$species
pts - as.data.frame(sol$points)

library(ggplot2)

ggplot(spc, aes(x = MDS1, y = MDS2)) +
  theme_bw() +
  geom_point(aes(size = mysize), pch = 1) +
  geom_point(data = pts, color = red)


Cheers,
Roman


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Barbara Baraibar Padro bu...@psu.edu
wrote:

 Hello list,
 I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments
 and a fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no
 problems with it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of
 biomass values sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my species
 are contributing with more biomass to the community in each treatment, that
 is, I'd like to create a graph such as the one that you get from the option
 plot (nmds_model,  type=t, display=c(species)) but instead of getting
 just the names of the species, I'd like to see dots of different sizes that
 would refer to the abundance of each of the species, is that possible at
 all? I know you can do it with CANOCO but wanted to ask if there is a way
 to do it in R.

 I have searched the internet and found something that looks like what I
 want to do (enclosed to the mail) but haven't found the way to do it.

 I have already done an Indicator Species Analysis with the multipatt
 function. That gives me information about the species that are related to
 some treatments but here I'm just looking for the species with more and
 less biomass in each treatment.

 Thank you very much!!
 Barbara



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 Barbara Baraibar
 Post-doctoral scholar - Weed and Applied Plant Ecology
 Plant Sciences Department
 Penn State University
 University Park, Pennsylvania 16802

 web-site:http://www.weedecologypsu.com

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Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Luštrik
After clicking send I remembered that you might want to scale circle sizes
according to their area, not radius (which is the default to draw). Then I
went to see the link Sarah posted and it deals with this, too (great minds
think alike? :) ).

Cheers,
Roman

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Roman Luštrik roman.lust...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Assuming you're working with metaMDS from vegan, it's trivial to extract
 NMDS scores, add some variable and plot the data. The following code would
 be easy to translate into a generic function.

 library(vegan)

 data(dune)
 sol - metaMDS(dune)

 # add some variable that will correspond to size of points
 spc - as.data.frame(cbind(sol$species, mysize = runif(nrow(sol$species
 pts - as.data.frame(sol$points)

 library(ggplot2)

 ggplot(spc, aes(x = MDS1, y = MDS2)) +
   theme_bw() +
   geom_point(aes(size = mysize), pch = 1) +
   geom_point(data = pts, color = red)


 Cheers,
 Roman


 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Barbara Baraibar Padro bu...@psu.edu
 wrote:

 Hello list,
 I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments
 and a fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no
 problems with it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of
 biomass values sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my species
 are contributing with more biomass to the community in each treatment, that
 is, I'd like to create a graph such as the one that you get from the option
 plot (nmds_model,  type=t, display=c(species)) but instead of getting
 just the names of the species, I'd like to see dots of different sizes that
 would refer to the abundance of each of the species, is that possible at
 all? I know you can do it with CANOCO but wanted to ask if there is a way
 to do it in R.

 I have searched the internet and found something that looks like what I
 want to do (enclosed to the mail) but haven't found the way to do it.

 I have already done an Indicator Species Analysis with the multipatt
 function. That gives me information about the species that are related to
 some treatments but here I'm just looking for the species with more and
 less biomass in each treatment.

 Thank you very much!!
 Barbara



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 Post-doctoral scholar - Weed and Applied Plant Ecology
 Plant Sciences Department
 Penn State University
 University Park, Pennsylvania 16802

 web-site:http://www.weedecologypsu.com

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