Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
2. Increase the efficiency of expert R users when performing common tasks by replacing hundreds of keystrokes with a few mouse clicks. Nice idea indeed. Akin to Rcmder. But as Rcmder Deducer uses obscure editor as platform. It's highly improbable that an expert user of R would use JGR for their work. I wonder, why not to direct this valuable effort towards extending fully customizable editors like ESS or SciViews-K (http://www.sciviews.org/SciViews-K/index.html )? This would nicely facilitate beginner's start with advanced editors as well. Vitalie. ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Just a correction. The version of JGR I was using is 1.7.0. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Gabor Grothendieckggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: What version of Windows and JGR did you try? I haven't been able to get JGR to work on Windows Vista with R 2.9 and JGR 1.6.7 or JGR 1.6.6 (the prior version of JGR). When I run jgr.exe it seems to install something the first time and on subsequent calls to jgr.exe without arguments it tries to install it again but fails. Since calling it without args fails, I tried this as well as numerous variations of arguments as well as using or not using R_LIBS, R_LIBS_USER, etc. e.g. setlocal set R_LIBS_USER=%USERPROFILE%\Documents\R\win-library\2.9 set R_HOME=C:\PROGRA~1\R\R-29~1.X jgr.exe --libpath=%R_LIBS_USER% --rhome=%R_HOME% endlocal but in all cases JGR opens and then immediately closes. With the prior version of JGR, 1.6.6, the above hung and I had to kill it with task manager. Also with the prior version of task manager if I removed the R_LIBS_USER line then it would open but give a huge number of errors and the user library would not be on .libPaths(). On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Ian Fellowsifell...@ucsd.edu wrote: I haven't tested with Linux, only windows and os x. Swing is supposed to be cross platform, but some times these things don't work quite as planned. I just installed fresh on a windows machine from CRAN which worked okay but I did notice one potential problem. The JGR launcher will download the newest dev version of JGR (1.7) if no version is currently present. So, there is an additional step of opening the native R console and entering install.packages(JGR). This is not the problem on your system, as you are running 1.6-7. I'll have to find a linux machine and do some testing to figure out what is going on. As I said, this is very much in the pre-alpha stage, so this is useful information for me. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, ian -Original Message- From: Tom Hodder [mailto:t...@limepepper.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:30 PM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa | grep R-core R-core-2.9.0-2.fc10.x86_64 [r...@localhost ~]# java -version java version 1.6.0_0 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-18.b16.fc10-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode) [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) JGR is 1.6-7 I am running the following in the JGR console; library(Deducer) Loading required package: ggplot2 Loading required package: proto Loading required package: grid Loading required package: reshape Loading required package: plyr Attaching package: 'ggplot2' The following object(s) are masked from package:grid : nullGrob There are no errors to either the JGR or R console Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Hi, Same problem with a fedora 10/R-devel/JGR 1.6-7. I see this after loading the package within JGR which does not look good: .deducer [1] Java-Objectnull Not easy to help more as you don't include the java code within the source package. I don't know what a org/rosuda/deducer/Deducer object is supposed to be. If you wanted to include java code in the R package, you could follow these: http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr/index.php?post/2009/03/26/Hello-Java-World http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr/index.php?post/2009/03/27/Document-java-software-with-%22R-CMD-build%22%2C-ant%2C-and-javadoc Apparently, the problem is in the .First.lib function, and something happens if I replace this line: .jpackage(pkgname,Deducer.jar) by this line: .jpackage(pkgname) The deducer.jar file does not have a capital D when it is on my machine, so case sensitive operating systems have a problem with it. Cheers, Romain Tom Hodder wrote: Ian Fellows wrote: 1. Download and install JGR from: http://jgr.markushelbig.org/Download.html 2. Open JGR and at the prompt enter: install.packages(Deducer) 3. Enter: library(Deducer) ##you should now see Data and Analysis menus Hi, I am not seeing any additional menus appear after completing those steps...? Tom -- Romain Francois Independent R Consultant +33(0) 6 28 91 30 30 http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Dear Ian, On 6/15/09, Ian Fellows ifell...@ucsd.edu wrote: I have just released the first per-alpha version of a new GUI project to CRAN, and am seeking some feedback from the community. First, thank you for your effort. I installed Deducer using install.packages(Deducer,,http://rforge.net/,type=source;) and I get similar issues as reported previously: nothing happens in JGR when loading Deducer. I'm on Gentoo Linux. Please let me know if further information could be of help. Liviu ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
That screen shot looks right. If you load a data frame into your workspace, you'll be able to see and edit it in the viewer. The data and analysis menus Contain the dialogs used for analysis. Interesting. Can you elaborate on that ? JGR is moving from accessing JRI directly to using REngine, which is a bit safer. Ian -Original Message- From: Romain Francois [mailto:romain.franc...@dbmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: That was a stupid typo... fixed in dev You said the something happens when you use .jpackage(pkgname). Does that mean that you see the menu items and data viewer? It brings another JFrame (see the screenshot) As for sources, I should have mentioned where to get them in the first place. The package sources are available on rforge.net. Would still be a good move to ship java source together with R source in the **source** package that goes on CRAN Package: http://www.rforge.net/Deducer/svn.html java sources: http://www.rforge.net/org/svn.html You can install the latest dev version with: install.packages(Deducer,,http://rforge.net/,type=source;) It should be noted that JGR is transitioning to a new backend (starting with 1.7), so Deducer in its works with the current CRAN version (1.6-7). Interesting. Can you elaborate on that ? Ian -Original Message- From: Romain Francois [mailto:romain.franc...@dbmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:27 AM To: Tom Hodder Cc: Fellows, Ian; r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Hi, Same problem with a fedora 10/R-devel/JGR 1.6-7. I see this after loading the package within JGR which does not look good: .deducer [1] Java-Objectnull Not easy to help more as you don't include the java code within the source package. I don't know what a org/rosuda/deducer/Deducer object is supposed to be. If you wanted to include java code in the R package, you could follow these: http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr/index.php?post/2009/03/26/Hello-Java-Worl d http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr/index.php?post/2009/03/27/Document-java-s oftware-with-%22R-CMD-build%22%2C-ant%2C-and-javadoc Apparently, the problem is in the .First.lib function, and something happens if I replace this line: .jpackage(pkgname,Deducer.jar) by this line: .jpackage(pkgname) The deducer.jar file does not have a capital D when it is on my machine, so case sensitive operating systems have a problem with it. Cheers, Romain Tom Hodder wrote: Ian Fellows wrote: 1. Download and install JGR from: http://jgr.markushelbig.org/Download.html 2. Open JGR and at the prompt enter: install.packages(Deducer) 3. Enter: library(Deducer) ##you should now see Data and Analysis menus Hi, I am not seeing any additional menus appear after completing those steps...? Tom -- Romain Francois Independent R Consultant +33(0) 6 28 91 30 30 http://romainfrancois.blog.free.fr ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
I'm using XP, but I tested an earlier version on Vista. It looks like the launcher is having some trouble finding your installation. I don't have much to do with the launcher, so I've forwarded your message to an appropriate list. I'll see if I can test on a vista machine some time today. Ian -Original Message- From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:ggrothendi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:42 AM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Just a correction. The version of JGR I was using is 1.7.0. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Gabor Grothendieckggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: What version of Windows and JGR did you try? I haven't been able to get JGR to work on Windows Vista with R 2.9 and JGR 1.6.7 or JGR 1.6.6 (the prior version of JGR). When I run jgr.exe it seems to install something the first time and on subsequent calls to jgr.exe without arguments it tries to install it again but fails. Since calling it without args fails, I tried this as well as numerous variations of arguments as well as using or not using R_LIBS, R_LIBS_USER, etc. e.g. setlocal set R_LIBS_USER=%USERPROFILE%\Documents\R\win-library\2.9 set R_HOME=C:\PROGRA~1\R\R-29~1.X jgr.exe --libpath=%R_LIBS_USER% --rhome=%R_HOME% endlocal but in all cases JGR opens and then immediately closes. With the prior version of JGR, 1.6.6, the above hung and I had to kill it with task manager. Also with the prior version of task manager if I removed the R_LIBS_USER line then it would open but give a huge number of errors and the user library would not be on .libPaths(). On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Ian Fellowsifell...@ucsd.edu wrote: I haven't tested with Linux, only windows and os x. Swing is supposed to be cross platform, but some times these things don't work quite as planned. I just installed fresh on a windows machine from CRAN which worked okay but I did notice one potential problem. The JGR launcher will download the newest dev version of JGR (1.7) if no version is currently present. So, there is an additional step of opening the native R console and entering install.packages(JGR). This is not the problem on your system, as you are running 1.6-7. I'll have to find a linux machine and do some testing to figure out what is going on. As I said, this is very much in the pre-alpha stage, so this is useful information for me. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, ian -Original Message- From: Tom Hodder [mailto:t...@limepepper.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:30 PM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa | grep R-core R-core-2.9.0-2.fc10.x86_64 [r...@localhost ~]# java -version java version 1.6.0_0 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-18.b16.fc10-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode) [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) JGR is 1.6-7 I am running the following in the JGR console; library(Deducer) Loading required package: ggplot2 Loading required package: proto Loading required package: grid Loading required package: reshape Loading required package: plyr Attaching package: 'ggplot2' The following object(s) are masked from package:grid : nullGrob There are no errors to either the JGR or R console Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Note from my prior message that I did explicitly use --rhome= just in case to be sure the launcher could find my installation. Also from the output of rversions.bat we see that R is listed in the registry. Is there anything else it needs? C:\tmp2R --version R version 2.9.0 Patched (2009-06-04 r48708) Copyright (C) 2009 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 ...snip... C:\tmp2 rem rversions.bat shows R versions found in registry C:\tmp2 rem http://batchfiles.googlecode.com C:\tmp2rversions.bat R-2.10.x R-2.5.1 R-2.6.0 R-2.6.0alpha R-2.6.2 R-2.7.x R-2.8.0pat R-2.8.x R-2.9.0dev R-2.9.x On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Ian Fellowsifell...@ucsd.edu wrote: I'm using XP, but I tested an earlier version on Vista. It looks like the launcher is having some trouble finding your installation. I don't have much to do with the launcher, so I've forwarded your message to an appropriate list. I'll see if I can test on a vista machine some time today. Ian -Original Message- From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:ggrothendi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:42 AM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Just a correction. The version of JGR I was using is 1.7.0. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Gabor Grothendieckggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: What version of Windows and JGR did you try? I haven't been able to get JGR to work on Windows Vista with R 2.9 and JGR 1.6.7 or JGR 1.6.6 (the prior version of JGR). When I run jgr.exe it seems to install something the first time and on subsequent calls to jgr.exe without arguments it tries to install it again but fails. Since calling it without args fails, I tried this as well as numerous variations of arguments as well as using or not using R_LIBS, R_LIBS_USER, etc. e.g. setlocal set R_LIBS_USER=%USERPROFILE%\Documents\R\win-library\2.9 set R_HOME=C:\PROGRA~1\R\R-29~1.X jgr.exe --libpath=%R_LIBS_USER% --rhome=%R_HOME% endlocal but in all cases JGR opens and then immediately closes. With the prior version of JGR, 1.6.6, the above hung and I had to kill it with task manager. Also with the prior version of task manager if I removed the R_LIBS_USER line then it would open but give a huge number of errors and the user library would not be on .libPaths(). On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Ian Fellowsifell...@ucsd.edu wrote: I haven't tested with Linux, only windows and os x. Swing is supposed to be cross platform, but some times these things don't work quite as planned. I just installed fresh on a windows machine from CRAN which worked okay but I did notice one potential problem. The JGR launcher will download the newest dev version of JGR (1.7) if no version is currently present. So, there is an additional step of opening the native R console and entering install.packages(JGR). This is not the problem on your system, as you are running 1.6-7. I'll have to find a linux machine and do some testing to figure out what is going on. As I said, this is very much in the pre-alpha stage, so this is useful information for me. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, ian -Original Message- From: Tom Hodder [mailto:t...@limepepper.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:30 PM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa | grep R-core R-core-2.9.0-2.fc10.x86_64 [r...@localhost ~]# java -version java version 1.6.0_0 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-18.b16.fc10-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode) [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) JGR is 1.6-7 I am running the following in the JGR console; library(Deducer) Loading required package: ggplot2 Loading required package: proto Loading required package: grid Loading required package: reshape Loading required package: plyr Attaching package: 'ggplot2' The following object(s) are masked from package:grid : nullGrob There are no errors to either the JGR or R console Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? Ian -Original Message- From: Tom Hodder [mailto:t...@limepepper.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:14 PM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: 1. Download and install JGR from: http://jgr.markushelbig.org/Download.html 2. Open JGR and at the prompt enter: install.packages(Deducer) 3. Enter: library(Deducer) ##you should now see Data and Analysis menus Hi, I am not seeing any additional menus appear after completing those steps...? Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
Ian Fellows wrote: Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa | grep R-core R-core-2.9.0-2.fc10.x86_64 [r...@localhost ~]# java -version java version 1.6.0_0 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-18.b16.fc10-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode) [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) JGR is 1.6-7 I am running the following in the JGR console; library(Deducer) Loading required package: ggplot2 Loading required package: proto Loading required package: grid Loading required package: reshape Loading required package: plyr Attaching package: 'ggplot2' The following object(s) are masked from package:grid : nullGrob There are no errors to either the JGR or R console Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI
I haven't tested with Linux, only windows and os x. Swing is supposed to be cross platform, but some times these things don't work quite as planned. I just installed fresh on a windows machine from CRAN which worked okay but I did notice one potential problem. The JGR launcher will download the newest dev version of JGR (1.7) if no version is currently present. So, there is an additional step of opening the native R console and entering install.packages(JGR). This is not the problem on your system, as you are running 1.6-7. I'll have to find a linux machine and do some testing to figure out what is going on. As I said, this is very much in the pre-alpha stage, so this is useful information for me. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, ian -Original Message- From: Tom Hodder [mailto:t...@limepepper.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:30 PM To: Fellows, Ian Cc: r-sig-gui@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-gui] Seeking comments/testers for a new GUI Ian Fellows wrote: Thanks for looking Tom. Are you entering library(Deducer) from within the JGR console? What version of JGR are you using? The version number is displayed on the splash screen at start up, and should be 1.6-7. What operating system are you using? Is your R up to date? i.e. Version 2.9.0 Are there any warnings/errors? [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa | grep R-core R-core-2.9.0-2.fc10.x86_64 [r...@localhost ~]# java -version java version 1.6.0_0 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-18.b16.fc10-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode) [r...@localhost ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) JGR is 1.6-7 I am running the following in the JGR console; library(Deducer) Loading required package: ggplot2 Loading required package: proto Loading required package: grid Loading required package: reshape Loading required package: plyr Attaching package: 'ggplot2' The following object(s) are masked from package:grid : nullGrob There are no errors to either the JGR or R console Tom ___ R-SIG-GUI mailing list R-SIG-GUI@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-gui
