Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Using the Aqua Tcl/Tk theme by default on Mac OS

2011-09-23 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat 
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 10:55 +0100, Prof Brian Ripley a écrit :
 Why not?  It's easy on Mac OS X (as easy as on Linux).
As easy as on Linux means much too hard for my intended audience. :-)

I'm creating a Rcmdr plugin that I'd like people to install without
typing more than two lines of code, and if possible none at all. But I
don't care that much about the look of the GUI, that would only be a
nice improvement.

 You are welcome to contribute a fix.  Simon will no doubt chip in with 
 more details.
I'll see what I can do, being totally ignorant of Mac OS X programming.
A first step is identifying where the bug is, or where it's easier to
fix (R or Tk). But let's hear what Simon says.


Thanks!

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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Using the Aqua Tcl/Tk theme by default on Mac OS

2011-09-23 Thread John Fox 
Dear Simon,

As you know, I have an interest in Tcl/Tk as developer of the Rcmdr package.
It would be nice if use of R Tcl/Tk applications could be made as convenient
and aesthetically pleasing for Mac users as for Windows users.

Thanks,
 John

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 Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Using the Aqua Tcl/Tk theme by default on Mac OS
 
 
 On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:12 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote:
 
  Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 10:55 +0100, Prof Brian Ripley a écrit :
  Why not?  It's easy on Mac OS X (as easy as on Linux).
  As easy as on Linux means much too hard for my intended audience.
  :-)
 
  I'm creating a Rcmdr plugin that I'd like people to install without
  typing more than two lines of code, and if possible none at all. But I
  don't care that much about the look of the GUI, that would only be a
  nice improvement.
 
  You are welcome to contribute a fix.  Simon will no doubt chip in
  with more details.
  I'll see what I can do, being totally ignorant of Mac OS X programming.
  A first step is identifying where the bug is, or where it's easier to
  fix (R or Tk). But let's hear what Simon says.
 
 
 I didn't check the most recent version of native Tk, but the design of the
 native Tk was that it assumes that it will be the one driving the UI  - it
 didn't even check that it is being loaded into an existing application
that
 has already initialized Cocoa. There were additional issues with the event
 loop, but more recently I think Brian had some success on that front.
 In a spare minute (at the earliest next week) I'll see if I an get my
 knowledge on that issue up to date..
 
 Cheers,
 Simon
 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Using the Aqua Tcl/Tk theme by default on Mac OS

2011-09-23 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat 
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 10:09 -0400, Simon Urbanek a écrit :
 I didn't check the most recent version of native Tk, but the design of
 the native Tk was that it assumes that it will be the one driving the
 UI  - it didn't even check that it is being loaded into an existing
 application that has already initialized Cocoa. There were additional
 issues with the event loop, but more recently I think Brian had some
 success on that front.
So that would be Tk's fault. ;-)

 In a spare minute (at the earliest next week) I'll see if I an get my
 knowledge on that issue up to date..
That's great, thanks - and there's no real hurry!

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