Dear John,
The tcltk2 package on CRAN includes tablelist version 5.5. The latest
development version on https://github.com/SciViews/tcltk2 includes tablelist
version 6.9. The last version of tcltk2 was not pushed to CRAN yet because many
Tcl/Tk packages were updated to higher versions and not everything is
completely tested today (I just recently got a Mac M1 machine for testing on
this system).
In the meantime, since I know you really want version 6.9 of tablelist, you can
do remotes::install_github(“SciViews/tcltk2@25df401”), or inspect the code in
tcltk2 to see how to include a pure-Tcl package and place it in Rcmdr (it
weights roughly 1Mb).
Best,
Philippe
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On 9 Sep 2021, at 23:44, John Fox mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca>>
wrote:
Dear Brian,
Thank you for the additional explanation.
If I understand correctly, the X11 version of Tcl/Tk will continue to be
distributed with the R CRAN Intel and arm64 builds because it is compatible
with R.app. If so, the simplest solution is probably to distribute the patched
TkTable package with these builds, for backwards compatibility (perhaps not
just for the Rcmdr package).
Your instructions for including tktablelist with the Rcmdr package seem clear,
and I'll give that a try in case TkTable continues to be unavailable in the
arm64 build.
Best,
John
On 2021-09-09 4:57 p.m., Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On 09/09/2021 21:34, John Fox wrote:
Dear Brian,
Thank you for responding so quickly. Please see below:
On 2021-09-09 2:59 p.m., Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On 09/09/2021 19:03, John Fox wrote:
Dear Simon, Philippe, and list members,
I've encountered some Tcl/Tk-related issues with the Apple silicon arm64 build
of R 4.1.0 for macOS. These issues affect the Rcmdr package, although they
don't prevent it from working:
(1) Some fonts that are available for the Intel build appear to be missing from
the arm64 build. Compare the screen shots of the Rcmdr main window at
<https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/jfox/.Pickup/x86_64-apple-darwin17.0.png>
(Intel build) and
<https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/jfox/.Pickup/aarch64-apple-darwin20.png>
(arm64 build). This problem is purely aesthetic.
It would be helpful to know what those fonts are. This is likely to be a
fontconfig issue and needs to be debugged by name.
I query the Tk default and fixed-width fonts via
tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkDefaultFont -family")
tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkFixedFont -family"))
and use those -- in the past, that produced pleasing font choices on all
platforms. In the macOS Intel build, the resulting font families are "Verdana"
and "Andale Mono"; in the arm64 build, "helvetica" and "courier". Perhaps the
Intel and arm64 builds were just configured differently.
Yes, I think fontconfig was, and that may help Simon dig into this.
(2) The Tcl/Tk Tktable package is apparently absent from the arm64 build but
still present in the Intel build. The Rcmdr detects its absence and suppresses
some features (i.e., those requiring the Rcmdr data editor). I understand that
the Tktable package is problematic and it may have been removed intentionally.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tktable/files/tktable/2.10/Tktable2.10.tar.gz
(apparently the latest version from 2008)
does not compile against recent Tcl/Tk (8.6.11 seems to be used): it uses
'panic' which should be 'Tcl_Panic'.(The Intel build appears to be much
older, 8.6.6.)
I have a patched version: AFAICS it installs entirely into /opt/R/arm64/lib I
could tar it up and make it available.
I could also send the patch to Simon for future use, but note that
https://mac.r-project.org/libs-arm64/ contains an aqua build of Tcl/Tk (not the
X11 build in the CRAN build of R 4.1.[01]) and which does not support Tcl/Tk.
I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand that -- perhaps there's a typo here? Do
you mean to say that an aqua build of Tcl/Tk will replace the X11 build after R
4.1.1, and that Tktable will be incompatible with it?
There was, so let me expand.
There are two Tk implementations on macOS,
- using aqua, which is included in https://mac.r-project.org/libs-arm64/
- using X11, included in the CRAN distributions of R 4.1.[01] on amd64, and
always used for Intel. So I do not have access to the details of that build.
As I recall, TkTable does not install for the aqua implementation, but does
(when patched) for the X11 implementation. My recollection is that XQuartz
became available for amd64 not long before R 4.0.0 and Simon switched to X11
Tk, although pre-releases had aqua Tk.
If so, first, I think that an aqua Tcl/Tk would be preferable to the current
