Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R vs. Microsoft R-Open updates?

[David Winsemius]

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Simon Urbanek  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Carl Witthoft  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I D/L'd the 3.3.1 version of R for MacOSX and ran the installer. After 
>> getting some "can't load" error messages, I discovered that the installer 
>> had updated the MicrosoftROpen.app, not the "vanilla"  R.app . Is this 
>> expected behavior, or am I making a hash of my apps and libraries by trying 
>> to keep both R and MRO available on my (Yosemite) machine?
>> 
> 
> I don't know about MRO (sounds somewhat paradoxical ;)), but Apple Installer 
> simply upgrades the application on your machine no matter where you moved it 
> (whether you like it or not). If it really did upgrade your MRO app then it 
> means Microsoft doesn't even bother changing the ID of the app which means 
> they still claim it's our CRAN R which sounds really wrong given the name...

My first reply got held up because the pdf file was too big (< 500 kB). I was 
showing the package contents of the MRO.app and the R.app in hte Applications 
directory to show that they were essentially the same except for some icons and 
the R file they point to:

$ ls -R "/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents"
Info.plist  MacOS   PkgInfo Resources

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/MacOS:
Microsoft R Open

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources:
COPYRIGHTS  NewDocumentItemImage.tiff   add_row.tiff
nl.lproj
English.lproj   Prefs.tiff  colors.tiff 
objEdit.tiff
Folding Bottom Hoover.png   RInput.png  colorsPP.tiff   
objRem.png
Folding Bottom Pressed.png  RLogo.png   de.lproj
quartz.tiff
Folding Bottom.png  RMacOSX-FAQ.htmldefault.css 
quartzPP.tiff
Folding Collapsed Hoover.pngRMacOSX-FAQ.texiemptyDoc.tiff   
quit.png
Folding Collapsed Pressed.png   ReadMe.txt  fr.lproj
refresh.png
Folding Collapsed.png   Revolution R OpenLogo.icns  history.png 
rem_col.tiff
Folding Top Hoover.png  Revolution R Opendata.icns  index.html  
rem_row.tiff
Folding Top Pressed.png Revolution R Opendoc.icns   it.lproj
sourceR.tiff
Folding Top.png Revolution R Openrun.icns   ja.lproj
stop.tiff
GUI-tools.R SaveDocumentItemImage.tiff  
lock-locked.tiffsush
INSTALL TODO-LIST   
lock-unlocked.tiff
LoadDocumentItemImage.tiff  X11.icnslogs.icns
NEWSadd_col.tiffmiscPP.png

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj:
ColorsPrefPane.nib  Localizable.strings R.scriptSuite   
RQuartz.nib
Credits.rtf MainMenu.nib
R.scriptTerminology SelectEncodingsPanel.nib
EditorPrefPane.nib  MiscPrefPane.nibRConsole.nib
SyntaxColorsPrefPane.nib
EncodingPopupView.nib   QuartzPrefPane.nib  RDocument.nib   
Vignettes.nib

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj:
ColorsPrefPane.nib  Localizable.strings 
QuartzPrefPane.nib  SyntaxColorsPrefPane.nib
Credits.rtf MainMenu.nibRDocument.nib   
Vignettes.nib
EditorPrefPane.nib  MiscPrefPane.nib
SelectEncodingsPanel.nib

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj:
Credits.rtf MainMenu.nibRDocument.nib   
Vignettes.nib
EditorPrefPane.nib  MiscPrefPane.nib
SelectEncodingsPanel.nib
Localizable.strings QuartzPrefPane.nib  
SyntaxColorsPrefPane.nib

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources/it.lproj:
ColorsPrefPane.nib  Localizable.strings 
QuartzPrefPane.nib  SyntaxColorsPrefPane.nib
Credits.rtf MainMenu.nibRDocument.nib   
Vignettes.nib
EditorPrefPane.nib  MiscPrefPane.nib
SelectEncodingsPanel.nib

/Applications/Microsoft R Open.app/Contents/Resources/ja.lproj:
ColorsPrefPane.nib  Localizable.strings 
QuartzPrefPane.nib  SelectEncodingsPanel.nib
Credits.rtf MainMenu.nibRConsole.nib
SyntaxColorsPrefPane.nib
EditorPrefPane.nib  

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R vs. Microsoft R-Open updates?

[Simon Urbanek]

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Carl Witthoft  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I D/L'd the 3.3.1 version of R for MacOSX and ran the installer. After 
> getting some "can't load" error messages, I discovered that the installer had 
> updated the MicrosoftROpen.app, not the "vanilla"  R.app . Is this expected 
> behavior, or am I making a hash of my apps and libraries by trying to keep 
> both R and MRO available on my (Yosemite) machine?
> 

I don't know about MRO (sounds somewhat paradoxical ;)), but Apple Installer 
simply upgrades the application on your machine no matter where you moved it 
(whether you like it or not). If it really did upgrade your MRO app then it 
means Microsoft doesn't even bother changing the ID of the app which means they 
still claim it's our CRAN R which sounds really wrong given the name...

Cheers,
Simon  


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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R vs. Microsoft R-Open updates?

[David Winsemius]

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:17 PM, David Winsemius  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Carl Witthoft  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I D/L'd the 3.3.1 version of R for MacOSX and ran the installer. After 
>> getting some "can't load" error messages, I discovered that the installer 
>> had updated the MicrosoftROpen.app, not the "vanilla"  R.app . Is this 
>> expected behavior, or am I making a hash of my apps and libraries by trying 
>> to keep both R and MRO available on my (Yosemite) machine?
> 
> The MRO website says it's not possible. I have managed to have an 
> R.app/CRAN_R version 3.3.x running alongside MRO version 3.2.x but I have 
> needed to use the R_Switch.app (spelling?) from the r.att.research.com website

... make that:

http://r.research.att.com/


> to go back an forth between them.
> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Carl Witthoft
>> c...@witthoft.com
>> resume: https://app.box.com/WitthoftResume
>> 
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