Re: [RADIATOR] Performance logging

2016-04-04 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

> Somewhat yes, I get the idea of anonymizing user’s identity with PEAP, but 
> for example with demo test certificates bundled with Radiator, PEAP-TLS 
> takes 15 rounds for a single EAP authentication.

well, PEAP itself takes around 12-14 rounds - the EAP-TLS part is short. 
however,
unless the client is correctly configured it will do the PEAP part with any 
RADIUS server
that has a CA the client knows (hello any of those public CAs) - and thus will
provide that server with the clients public-component TLS cert

alan
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Re: [RADIATOR] Performance logging

2016-04-04 Thread Tuure Vartiainen
Hi,

> On 04 Apr 2016, at 11:24, Hartmaier Alexander 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2016-03-30 15:10, Tuure Vartiainen wrote:
>> 
>>> On 30 Mar 2016, at 14:55, Hartmaier Alexander 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> we use PEAP-TLS, EAP-PEAP as outer EAP type with EAP-TLS as inner.
>>> Not sure if the outher EAP-PEAP adds any real security as the Radiator
>>> cert is the same one for both types as it only hides the transmission of
>>> the user cert which can be classified like a public key imho.
>>> 
>> Ack.
> Would you say that using PEAP-TLS for both wired and wireless auth is
> overkill even when both are considered sniffable?
> 

Somewhat yes, I get the idea of anonymizing user’s identity with PEAP, but 
for example with demo test certificates bundled with Radiator, PEAP-TLS 
takes 15 rounds for a single EAP authentication.

>> 
>> We’ll add a feature, which will allow the total time along with an on-demand
>> timing to be used through %{...} special format in AuthLogs etc.
> Thanks! Please inform me when it has landed in the patches.
> 

Yes, I’ll reply here.


BR
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Re: [RADIATOR] Performance logging

2016-04-04 Thread Hartmaier Alexander
Hi,

On 2016-03-30 15:10, Tuure Vartiainen wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On 30 Mar 2016, at 14:55, Hartmaier Alexander 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> we use PEAP-TLS, EAP-PEAP as outer EAP type with EAP-TLS as inner.
>> Not sure if the outher EAP-PEAP adds any real security as the Radiator
>> cert is the same one for both types as it only hides the transmission of
>> the user cert which can be classified like a public key imho.
>>
> Ack.
Would you say that using PEAP-TLS for both wired and wireless auth is
overkill even when both are considered sniffable?

>
>> I've already tuned the EAPTLS_MaxFragmentSize to have as few roundtrips
>> as possible (1350 for the outer PEAP and 1300 for the inner EAP-TLS).
>>
> Yes, unfortunately beside that the only real option to minimize a delay of an 
> EAP authentication is to
> minimize the round-trips either by sending less certificate data or
> by using an EAP method with fewer rounds.
>
>> You see how I calculate the response_time in my email yesterday.
>>
> $p->{RecvTime} is set with a time of receive when an Access-Request is 
> received, so
>
> $message->{response_time} = Radius::Util::timeInterval(
> $p->{RecvTime},
> $p->{RecvTimeMicros}, Radius::Util::getTimeHires());
>
> will calculate a response time only for that Access-Request.
>
>
> When running Radiator with Trace 4 or 5, a total time for an EAP
> authentication can be seen in the log.
>
> E.g.
>
> Wed Mar 30 12:55:58 2016 816812: DEBUG: EAP Success, elapsed time 0.71221
>
> We’ll add a feature, which will allow the total time along with an on-demand
> timing to be used through %{...} special format in AuthLogs etc.
Thanks! Please inform me when it has landed in the patches.

>
>
> BR
BR


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