(RADIATOR) Auth by NAS-Identifier
Hi All I'm an old radiator user :) using ver 2.17.1 with (AuthBy SQL) And Nas: cisco 2511 and PM3 All work great but now I want to enable filters so customer will have PPP accounts that are restricted to emails only. This can be achieved with PM3 easily by using Attribute: Filter-Id. My Q is how can I tell my radius to log only the users that come form the PM3. I thought of adding a column to my db like: NAS-Identifier=some_ip and then add a AuthColumnDef n, GENERIC, check - to see if the ip is correct. Is this the right way ? if so how can I tell the radius that some of the users can log from any NAS while some can log from only one NAS ? Will I have to upgrade to the latest version ? Thanks in advance === Archive at http://www.open.com.au/archives/radiator/ Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Auth by NAS-Identifier
Hi Again What will the ( AuthColumnDef n, GENERIC, check ) is going to check ? That the Ip in the db is equal to the one from the NAS ? If so how can i specify an ALL IP ? can I use netmask like 10.0.0.1/0 ? or maybe 'ALL' ? And last Q, will i have to upgrade from ver 2.17.1 to enable such check ? Have a nice travelling ;) Hello - Yes you can do what you describe, with a check and reply column. You will need to redefine your AuthSelect query and add the corresponding AuthColumnDef's as you show below. BTW - the latest version is Radiator 3.3.1. regards Hugh On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 02:56 AM, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi All I'm an old radiator user :) using ver 2.17.1 with (AuthBy SQL) And Nas: cisco 2511 and PM3 All work great but now I want to enable filters so customer will have PPP accounts that are restricted to emails only. This can be achieved with PM3 easily by using Attribute: Filter-Id. My Q is how can I tell my radius to log only the users that come form the PM3. I thought of adding a column to my db like: NAS-Identifier=some_ip and then add a AuthColumnDef n, GENERIC, check - to see if the ip is correct. Is this the right way ? if so how can I tell the radius that some of the users can log from any NAS while some can log from only one NAS ? Will I have to upgrade to the latest version ? Thanks in advance === Archive at http://www.open.com.au/archives/radiator/ Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. NB: I am travelling this week, so there may be delays in our correspondence. -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. Available on *NIX, *BSD, Windows 95/98/2000, NT, MacOS X. - Nets: internetwork inventory and management - graphical, extensible, flexible with hardware, software, platform and database independence. === Archive at http://www.open.com.au/archives/radiator/ Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) multiply field for check
Can I do in the configuration multiply field (sql) for check or i must put all the check attr in one field field2 = Expiration = "Dec 10 2001" field3 = Simultaneous-Use = 1 AuthColumnDef 1, GENERIC, check AuthColumnDef 2, GENERIC, check -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6925757 Fax: 972-4-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/ Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Re: (PM) Firewall problem with radius
dont forget that 1645,1646 are udp Michael Baumann wrote: Hi all, i'm running my pm3 some time working fine with controlling the user-logins via the pm's userlist. Now i'm trying to change to a radius-server with the little problem that he's behind a firewall. So, my situation: When a user connect to the pm: he got's the login-prompt. when i type a username which is not in the portmasters list he requests the radius-server (i suggest) and than closes the connection without the password prompt!!!... Otherwise with a pm-user it works all fine. I think there are some ports needed to be opened on the firewall. I already set the ports (514,1023,1025, 1645,1646). Which ports i forgot? grts Michael Baumann - To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe portmaster-users' in the body of the message. Searchable list archive: URL:http://www.livingston.com/Tech/archive/ -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/ Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Y2K: %y results in single '0'
Hi All its probobly timelocal() try: ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$month,$year) = localtime(time); print $year."\n"; you get: 100! Mike McCauley wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for reporting that. We have fixed it and posted a fixed version of radiusd to the patches area. It also affected %e. Thanks again, and apologies for the inconvenience. Cheers. On Jan 3, 8:26am, Thomas Voss wrote: Subject: (RADIATOR) Y2K: %y results in single '0' Hello Mike, there is a problem with the '%y'-parameter: Instead of "Last 2 digits of the current year (2 digits)" the %y now results in a single '0' (one digit)!. We got a lot of trouble because we use the parameter to construct tablenames (although there's nothing that we aren't able to repair). Happy new year to australia, Thomas. === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. -- End of excerpt from Thomas Voss -- Mike McCauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open System Consultants Pty. LtdUnix, Perl, Motif, C++, WWW 24 Bateman St Hampton, VIC 3188 Australia http://www.open.com.au Phone +61 3 9598-0985 Fax +61 3 9598-0955 Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) what dictionary should i use ?
Hi I have Cisco 25xx and livingston PM2,3 What dictionary should I use ? Can i use Cisco Livingston dictionary together ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) To many start records
The Default DupInterval is 2 if im not mistaken. What the list people think or found best to be ? tom minchin wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 09:50:26AM +0930, Paul Thornton wrote: Hi, We seem to be having a small problem with our radius records and was wandering what might be causing this. As the record shows below the user has sent a Start record followed by a Stop (User Request). Shortly thereafter another Start Record has appeared. This causes our accounting server to see them as being online. This inturn causes all of their credit to dissapear until there is none left. Could this have something to do with the DupInterval value. We have this set to "2". Should it be higher, or could there be something else? -- Snip - 8|username|seagull-1.mtx.net.au|203.15.27.59|dove|PPP|Start|936187714|2B000E98| 8|username|seagull-1.mtx.net.au|203.15.27.59|dove|PPP|Stop|936187728|2B000E98|User-Request 8|username|seagull-1.mtx.net.au|203.15.27.59|dove|PPP|Start|936187759|2B000E98| -- Snip - Looks like duplicate packets alright. Try setting the DupInterval to something higher (like 60 seconds). Also, try increasing the retransmit time on your NAS - if you're Cisco then it defaults to 5 seconds which is a bit fast in peak times. [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) correct spelling of Van-Jacobson-TCP-IP
I think the the Van-Jacobsen compression is the default. am i right ? Hugh Irvine wrote: Hello Anand - On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, Anand Buddhdev wrote: I've been testing Radiator 2.13.1. My platform is Solaris 7. I am using the following raddb/users file, with 2 entries: DEFAULT Auth-Type = "UNIX", Group = email Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254, Framed-IP-Netmask = 255.255.255.128, Framed-Routing = None, Filter-Id = emailonly, Framed-Compression = Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP, Framed-MTU = 1500 DEFAULT Auth-Type = "UNIX" Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254, Framed-IP-Netmask = 255.255.255.128, Framed-Routing = None, Framed-MTU = 1500, Framed-Compression = Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP, Your email has been troubling me for the last several days, and I have just realised why - its the spelling of Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP. The correct spelling as used in the Radiator dictionary is Van-Jabobson-TCP-IP. There have been a number of problems reported on this list regarding strange NAS behaviour when the incorrect spelling is used (due to the TCP compression being incorrectly set and only ICMP and UDP protocols operating correctly). You should change all instances of Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP to Van-Jacobson-TCP-IP. regards Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Do i need to empty the database ?
Hi All All the radius servers I used until the Radiator, where creating an accounting file on the Hard Disk and was reset on the first of each month. Now im working with MySQL. Do i need to empty the database every month, or the MYSQL can Handle it easily for a longer time ? (i have 750 Users). If i need to empty the MySQL what is the right way to backup the Information in the ACCOUNTING table ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
Hi I think that every Nas that can give multilink PPP is bind to Port-Limit. As for the Livingston(pm2-3) its does not care about Simultaneous Use at all, and just count the port. I wonder if livingston radius do it by SNMP or just remember the session in the memory Hugh Irvine wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, David Lloyd wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Arturo Pina wrote: Hi, Just to shed some light if I can... Michael is meaning that it's not the same to have a single user using 2 channels than two separate users using a channel each one. This way he would lose a customer for the price of a 128k dialup access might or might not be twice the price of a single access... If I recall every major NAS can handle this situation (known as Multilink PPP) and I always thought that Radiator did... I should go back over to read the Radius RFC but the Port-Limit attribute is thought exactly for this situation... I agree fully, we are facing the same thing here. We would like to have a global session limit of 1, and set each user's port-limit to the maximum number of channels they are alloted, becuase (for us) 128k ISDN (or 112k multilink analog) is cheaper than two 64k (or 56k) dialups. We have a one-login-per-computer policy, where a customer is not allowed to log in from more than one machine at a time. I am of the opinion that Radiator should if possible recognize a multilink connection as just one session! AAH Now I see what you are meaning - I'm not usually so thick. :~) I also see that it is going to get somewhat interesting, because this sort of behaviour will of course depend almost entirely on the NAS in question. If the NAS can indicate in the Radius Access-Request that the second channel request is in fact just that (multilink PPP) then we will be able to do something special. (Or indeed if the NAS is configured to accept additional channels depending on a returned Port-Limit - although accounting could get messy.) However, if the Access-Request from the NAS looks exactly like any other Access-Request, then we will have no way to determine whether the request is for the second channel of a multilink session, or for a completely different session using the same username and password. In which case a Simultaneous-Use for that user will be the only way to deal with it. If someone would like to do some testing, I'd be happy to assist. thanks to everyone who has commented Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
So how othe Radius server do this ? And what the livingston send that tell the Radius that its the second port of the current Session ? Hugh Irvine wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi I think that every Nas that can give multilink PPP is bind to Port-Limit. As for the Livingston(pm2-3) its does not care about Simultaneous Use at all, and just count the port. I wonder if livingston radius do it by SNMP or just remember the session in the memory Radiator can be configured to do either of the above, but again if the NAS sends an identical radius request, there is no good solution. cheers Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
But if ill put both set to 2 then i can easily have two users on 64k thats mean 1 less customer. I think the should be considered as bug. any one know the email of the developing team ? Hugh Irvine wrote: Hello Michael - On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: In the Livingston Radius Manual Port-Limit is the controller of how many B channel a user can use. so i put in the replay attribute: Port-Limit = 2 and in the check attribute: Simultaneous-Use = 1 and i get all the time when an ISDN user want to connect in 128k: INFO: Access rejected for : Simultaneous-Use of 1 exceeded Right, I see - Port-Limit as a Livingston Reply item. Well you will probably have to do both in that case, for those users who use 128k. You should have a Simultaneous-Use = 2 Check item, together with a Port-Limit = 2 Reply item for those users who have purchased that service. hth Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
Yes its the easy way but: i don't want 2 64k Users to connect. Im selling the 128k as one unit non breakable. Hugh Irvine wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi All If i put : Port-Limit = 2 and Simultaneous-Use = 1 can ISDN user connect in 128k ? Normally you would not use Port-Limit in this context, Port-Limit is for use in allocating total numbers of ports to particular groups of users. I would expect the correct approach to be to use Simultaneous-Use = 2, however this is dependent on the NAS behaviour. Most NAS's we've seen will do a Radius query for each individual channel open, together with individual Starts and Stops. hth Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
Re: (RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
In the Livingston Radius Manual Port-Limit is the controller of how many B channel a user can use. so i put in the replay attribute: Port-Limit = 2 and in the check attribute: Simultaneous-Use = 1 and i get all the time when an ISDN user want to connect in 128k: INFO: Access rejected for : Simultaneous-Use of 1 exceeded Hugh Irvine wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi All If i put : Port-Limit = 2 and Simultaneous-Use = 1 can ISDN user connect in 128k ? Normally you would not use Port-Limit in this context, Port-Limit is for use in allocating total numbers of ports to particular groups of users. I would expect the correct approach to be to use Simultaneous-Use = 2, however this is dependent on the NAS behaviour. Most NAS's we've seen will do a Radius query for each individual channel open, together with individual Starts and Stops. hth Hugh -- Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, NT, Rhapsody -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Simulatnius-usae and Port-limit
Hi All If i put : Port-Limit = 2 and Simultaneous-Use = 1 can ISDN user connect in 128k ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Name of LivingstonMIB ?
How do i know what is the LivingstonMIB name ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Users Usage
Hi All Any one have a script that can creat a User Usage out of ACCOUNTING Table ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Simultanius use / maybe bug ?
Hi All Im still under evaluation of the Radiator and i really want to solve this problem that i work on it for the last few day. One of my ISDN customer tried to connect at 128 but he was limited to 64 (Port-Limit = 1) then while connected at 64kb he tried again to add more 64kb and was successful. i got the next error NOTICE: Session for liorh at 194.90.152.130:34 has gone away INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored INFO: Duplicate request id 7 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored at this stage the customer was using 128kb and i sow on RADONLINE only 1 port while the first one was erased :-( user: xxx passwd: {crypt}x checkattr: Expiration = "Nov 10 1999", Simultaneous-Use = 1 replayattr: Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254, Framed-MTU = 1500, Idle-Timeout = 1200, Port-Limit = 1 LogDir . LogFile /var/log/radius/radius.log DbDir /usr/local/etc PidFile /var/run/radiusd.pid Trace 3 # the program is there ! SnmpgetProg /usr/bin/snmpget DictionaryFile /usr/local/etc/dictionary Client 194.95.157.130 Secret 123456 # the nas type is PM3 NasType Livingston # DupInterval 0 /Client -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.
(RADIATOR) Strange errors
Hi All Thanks in advance the next USER use ISDN and connect to pm3. What is this error and why he can loging twice ? NOTICE: Session for yair at 194.90.152.130:1 has gone away INFO: Duplicate request id 155 received from 194.90.152.130: ignored Client 194.90.152.130 Secret NasType Livingston # DupInterval 0 /Client AuthSelect select PASSWORD, CHECKATTR, REPLYATTR, STATUS \ from SUBSCRIBERS \ where USERNAME='%n' and STATUS!="Freeze" select * from SUBSCRIBERS where USERNAME="yair"; USERNAME = yair PASSWORD = {crypt}xx CHECKATTR = Expiration = "Dec 10 1999", Simultaneous-Use = 1 REPLYATTR = Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP,Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254, Framed-MTU = 1500, Idle-Timeout = 1200, Port-Limit = 1 STATUS = Subscribed -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- === Archive at http://www.thesite.com.au/~radiator/ To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.