RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-22 Thread Mike McCauley


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You can terminate 2000-8000 PPPoE connections into a suitably
configured Cisco 7200 with the PPPoE-server supporting IOS that was
released recently.

Or use a Cisco 6400 for higher load situations.

Simon

At 1:22 PM +0100 21/3/01, Andy De Petter wrote:
DANA, from Alcatel (http://www.alcatel.com), or REDBACK 1
(http://www.redback.com)?

-a

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   Sent: woensdag 21 maart 2001 11:58
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   Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting
  
  
   Hugh,
  
   Is a NAS-like device required for PPPoE?  If so, can you (or
   anyone) suggest
   one?
  
   Regards,  Brian Morris
  
  
  
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   From: Hugh Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Brian Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:48 PM
   Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting
  
  
   
Hello Brian -
   
Whatever NAS-like device you use to terminate your PPPoE
   sessions looks to
Radiator like any other NAS. If the device reports packets in/out and
   bytes
in/out in accounting records you will record them just the same as with
   any
other NAS.
   
hth
   
Hugh
   
On Wednesday 21 March 2001 15:33, Brian Morris wrote:
 Hi All,

 We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE  as well as
 account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
 customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we
   are new to
 PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.

 Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
 (Time/Mb) using PPPoE.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Regards,  Brian Morris



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Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-21 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Brian -

Whatever NAS-like device you use to terminate your PPPoE sessions looks to 
Radiator like any other NAS. If the device reports packets in/out and bytes 
in/out in accounting records you will record them just the same as with any 
other NAS.

hth

Hugh

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 15:33, Brian Morris wrote:
 Hi All,

 We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE  as well as
 account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
 customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we are new to
 PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.

 Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
 (Time/Mb) using PPPoE.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Regards,  Brian Morris



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Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-21 Thread Brian Morris

Hugh,

Is a NAS-like device required for PPPoE?  If so, can you (or anyone) suggest
one?

Regards,  Brian Morris



- Original Message -
From: Hugh Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brian Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting



 Hello Brian -

 Whatever NAS-like device you use to terminate your PPPoE sessions looks to
 Radiator like any other NAS. If the device reports packets in/out and
bytes
 in/out in accounting records you will record them just the same as with
any
 other NAS.

 hth

 Hugh

 On Wednesday 21 March 2001 15:33, Brian Morris wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE  as well as
  account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
  customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we are new to
  PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.
 
  Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
  (Time/Mb) using PPPoE.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
 
  Regards,  Brian Morris
 
 
 
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RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-21 Thread Andy De Petter


That's to be discussed, depending on the amount of concurrent users you're
expecting :)

Of course RedBack is better, but for low-profile ISP, DANA will do aswell.

-Andy

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 From: Karl, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: woensdag 21 maart 2001 17:20
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 Subject: RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting


 Redback

 Matthew C. Karl
 Florida State University
 Office of Telecommunications, MIS

  -Original Message-
 From: Andy De Petter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:23 AM
 To:   Brian Morris
 Cc:   Radiator Mailing
 Subject:  RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting


 DANA, from Alcatel (http://www.alcatel.com), or REDBACK 1
 (http://www.redback.com)?

 -a

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Brian Morris
  Sent: woensdag 21 maart 2001 11:58
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting
 
 
  Hugh,
 
  Is a NAS-like device required for PPPoE?  If so, can you (or
  anyone) suggest
  one?
 
  Regards,  Brian Morris
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hugh Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Brian Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:48 PM
  Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting
 
 
  
   Hello Brian -
  
   Whatever NAS-like device you use to terminate your PPPoE
  sessions looks to
   Radiator like any other NAS. If the device reports packets in/out and
  bytes
   in/out in accounting records you will record them just the
 same as with
  any
   other NAS.
  
   hth
  
   Hugh
  
   On Wednesday 21 March 2001 15:33, Brian Morris wrote:
Hi All,
   
We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE
 as well as
account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we
  are new to
PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.
   
Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
(Time/Mb) using PPPoE.
   
Any help would be appreciated.
   
Regards,  Brian Morris
   
   
   
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RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-21 Thread Karl, Matthew

Redback

Matthew C. Karl
Florida State University
Office of Telecommunications, MIS

 -Original Message-
From:   Andy De Petter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:23 AM
To: Brian Morris
Cc: Radiator Mailing
Subject:RE: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting


DANA, from Alcatel (http://www.alcatel.com), or REDBACK 1
(http://www.redback.com)?

-a

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Brian Morris
 Sent: woensdag 21 maart 2001 11:58
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting


 Hugh,

 Is a NAS-like device required for PPPoE?  If so, can you (or
 anyone) suggest
 one?

 Regards,  Brian Morris



 - Original Message -
 From: Hugh Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Brian Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:48 PM
 Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting


 
  Hello Brian -
 
  Whatever NAS-like device you use to terminate your PPPoE
 sessions looks to
  Radiator like any other NAS. If the device reports packets in/out and
 bytes
  in/out in accounting records you will record them just the same as with
 any
  other NAS.
 
  hth
 
  Hugh
 
  On Wednesday 21 March 2001 15:33, Brian Morris wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE  as well as
   account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
   customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we
 are new to
   PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.
  
   Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
   (Time/Mb) using PPPoE.
  
   Any help would be appreciated.
  
   Regards,  Brian Morris
  
  
  
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Re: (RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-21 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Brian -

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 21:57, Brian Morris wrote:
 Hugh,

 Is a NAS-like device required for PPPoE?  If so, can you (or anyone)
 suggest one?


PPPoE translates to "Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet", and just like 
using PPP over modems, you need two ends to make a connection. Most ISP 
operators who are doing broadband over cable, or xDSL, use some sort of mass 
termination device to terminate the head-end of their subscribers' sessions.

The question for you is "how many sessions are you looking to terminate?".

If it is just one you could probably use a Linux box (or similar), but for 
larger numbers you will probably want a higher density solution.

Others on the list have made a couple of suggestions regarding PPPoE devices, 
and as I have no experience in that area I have nothing to add.

regards

Hugh

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(RADIATOR) PPPOE Authentication / Accounting

2001-03-20 Thread Brian Morris

Hi All,

We require the ability to authenticate clients using PPPoE  as well as
account for their traffic.  Our regular dial-in NAS (PM3 for modem
customers) does both auth and accounting just fine however we are new to
PPPoE and I am not sure how to monitor traffic.

Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the best way to do accounting
(Time/Mb) using PPPoE.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,  Brian Morris



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