Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Hugh Irvine
Hello Brian -

This is a quickly moving target, so it is probably best to ask your 
favourite vendors and/or do a Google search.

Any published list is going to be out of date within days.

You should also be a bit careful with vendor spec sheets, as they often 
don't reflect reality particularily well. And although many wireless 
access points claim to implement radius, it is our experience that this 
is oftentimes limited to authentication only.

As is usually the case, you should test everything yourself to verify 
vendor claims.

YMMV

regards

Hugh



On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 10:22 Australia/Melbourne, Brian Morris 
wrote:

Hi All,

Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
authentication?
If so, would they like to share it??

If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
Radiator.
Thanks in advance,

Brian.

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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Bon sy
Brian and Mike,

I will add Linksys WRT51AB with official spec at
(http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=476grid= )

I have not tried this but it claims to support 802.1x and it is
the least inexpensive one in the U.S. (retail less than $200).

I will also suggest to check against the Wi-Fi certified product
list at http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/certified_products.asp?TID=2
to avoid compatibility issues with cross vendor products. For example, I
did not find Lancom 3050 that Mike mentioned in the list. 

As new standards like 802.11g and WPA that are emerging
frequently, I will suggest the listing, either here or elsewhere, to get
into more specifics and user experience. For example, what client
supplicants works with what AP through (radiator or other) radius under
what version of driver/firmware, and any problems when using it as we have
encountered. In either case, I will repost this to
http://www.qcwireless.net/ 

I will also try to update when warranted via the site that we
maintain at http://www.qcwireless.net/ where it devoted itself to only
wireless related discussion. I hope this coould help to complement this
site that devotes specifically only to radiator issues.

Bon


On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Mike McCauley wrote:

 Hello Brian,
 
 You will find a list of the ones we know about at 
 http://www.open.com.au/radiator/technical.html, see also below.
 
 If anyone can list others that are known to work with Radiator, we will update 
 the list:
 
 Cisco Aironet AP340, 350, 1200
 3Com SR AP 8000
 LanCom 3050
 D-Link DWL-900AP+
 Orinoco/Proxim AP-2000, 2500
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:22 am, Brian Morris wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
  authentication?
 
  If so, would they like to share it??
 
  If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
  Radiator.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Brian.
 
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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Bon sy
Hugh, Brian, and who else is interested,

The whole point of going to a centralized site like wi-fi.org is
to have trustworthy/(semi)credible entities to conduct the test and to
post the results. First off, I have no relationship with wi-fi.org if
anyone wonders, and I do not embrace just one entity. Rather, it makes
sense for me to embrace whatever entity providing good and useful
services.

We all know the problems of subjective tests and biased
statements. As Hugh has pointed out, radius support is _not_ the same as
radius full support on AAA or 802.1x. So, approaching vendor or googling,
in my opinion, bears more or less the same risk if one is not applying own
judgement and/or if there is a lack of trustworthy/(semi)credible entity
doing so.

I still feel some sort of (semi)official entities that can provide
some sort of a validation lab service could be a great service to the
technology users, wireless or not. If nothing else, one can have a
shortlist to start, and perhaps if nothing works, resort it back to
googling or staying on a phone for 45 mins to wait for tech support to
answer a simple question. 

About the time lag issue, it is unavoidable. The question really
is the response time issue. For myself, if I never commit myself within a
month of a new product release, and if whatever (semi)official entity can
have the valuable validation infor/testing/results available within a
month of a new product release, I can live perfectly happy with it. 

In addition, it also has to do with time-to-market strategy and
balance between potential liability on a company's reputation (if a
product has a problem) vs the level of completeness in the
testing/validation phase of a new product. For example, if a company is
reputable and conservative on conducting thorough test before releasing
a product, or if I know the company/organization is not just speculative
on gaining market share, I may be willing to jump into it sooner. 

Hugh, Brian, and perhaps whoever is interested, I wonder anyone
cares to offer your viewpoint on the acceptable lag time for a product
review/test/validation, and what's your viewpoint on having such 
(semi)official entities? 

Either case, I think this could be a great discussion and I am
going to re-post this for our students and colleagues here (at Queens
College). Your inputs will certainly help folks in this community as well
as those in the Queens College community to understand this issue better.

Thanks in advance!

Bon



On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Hugh Irvine wrote:

 
 Hello Brian -
 
 This is a quickly moving target, so it is probably best to ask your 
 favourite vendors and/or do a Google search.
 
 Any published list is going to be out of date within days.
 
 You should also be a bit careful with vendor spec sheets, as they often 
 don't reflect reality particularily well. And although many wireless 
 access points claim to implement radius, it is our experience that this 
 is oftentimes limited to authentication only.
 
 As is usually the case, you should test everything yourself to verify 
 vendor claims.
 
 YMMV
 
 regards
 
 Hugh
 
 
 
 On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 10:22 Australia/Melbourne, Brian Morris 
 wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
  authentication?
 
  If so, would they like to share it??
 
  If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
  Radiator.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Brian.
 
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 together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?
 
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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Ken Wolstencroft
I have tested the following access points with Radiator (802.1x, remote MAC
or both):

Proxim AP600
Proxim AP2500
Netgear ME103
Apple Airport Base station

All the best,
Ken

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 Hello Brian -

 This is a quickly moving target, so it is probably best to ask your
 favourite vendors and/or do a Google search.

 Any published list is going to be out of date within days.

 You should also be a bit careful with vendor spec sheets, as they often
 don't reflect reality particularily well. And although many wireless
 access points claim to implement radius, it is our experience that this
 is oftentimes limited to authentication only.

 As is usually the case, you should test everything yourself to verify
 vendor claims.

 YMMV

 regards

 Hugh



 On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 10:22 Australia/Melbourne, Brian Morris
 wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
  authentication?
 
  If so, would they like to share it??
 
  If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
  Radiator.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Brian.
 
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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Bon sy
Hi Ken,

When you use Proxim AP600 and Proxim AP2500, I wonder you can
share your experience on the acocunting, and specificially with
Radiator radius. Also, how much are these AP sold for in UK?

Thanks in advance!

Bon


On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Ken Wolstencroft wrote:

 I have tested the following access points with Radiator (802.1x, remote MAC
 or both):
 
 Proxim AP600
 Proxim AP2500
 Netgear ME103
 Apple Airport Base station
 
 All the best,
 Ken
 
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 From: Hugh Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Brian Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius
 Authentication
 
 
 
  Hello Brian -
 
  This is a quickly moving target, so it is probably best to ask your
  favourite vendors and/or do a Google search.
 
  Any published list is going to be out of date within days.
 
  You should also be a bit careful with vendor spec sheets, as they often
  don't reflect reality particularily well. And although many wireless
  access points claim to implement radius, it is our experience that this
  is oftentimes limited to authentication only.
 
  As is usually the case, you should test everything yourself to verify
  vendor claims.
 
  YMMV
 
  regards
 
  Hugh
 
 
 
  On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 10:22 Australia/Melbourne, Brian Morris
  wrote:
 
   Hi All,
  
   Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
   authentication?
  
   If so, would they like to share it??
  
   If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
   Radiator.
  
   Thanks in advance,
  
   Brian.
  
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  NB: have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets),
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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-19 Thread Bret Jordan
The ones we would suggest getting are the Proxim AP 2000..  Not only do 
they work will with an 802.1x deployment but they are willing to work 
with us to get Linux support.   They are trying to get us hardware docs 
right now so that we can write the linux drivers for 802.11a and thus 
release that driver to everyone..

All the tools that we are going to write (we have just started writing 
the tools and have not started the drivers) will be hosted at 
http://utahgeeks.sourceforge.net/

Bret

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Hi All,

Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
authentication?
If so, would they like to share it??

If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
Radiator.
Thanks in advance,

Brian.

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(RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-18 Thread Brian Morris
Hi All,

Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
authentication?

If so, would they like to share it??

If not, can anyone offer some advice as to those that do and work with
Radiator.

Thanks in advance,

Brian.

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Re: (RADIATOR) Wireless Access Points that can do Radius Authentication

2003-06-18 Thread Bon sy

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Brian Morris wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Has anyone compiled a list of wireless access points that do radius
 authentication?

Cisco 350/352 series: 
It works great in no auth, WEP only, MAC filtering and EAP auth. In MAC
filtering and EAP auth mode, it has radius support and works fine with
Radiator radius. It also supports accounting. This is the only low end
model that the accounting really works well in different
authentication modes. 

Orinoco AP-2000, AP-1000, and AP-500 also have radius support and all work
fine with radiator radius. I posted further details in a forum site we
just completed. Please check out the product review section at the URL:

http://www.qcwireless.net/


 
 If so, would they like to share it??

I would love to hear from you and others whether our forum could be a
useful vehicle for sharing the ever changing and growing area.

Bon

 
 Brian.
 
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