Re: (RADIATOR) Oracle on Sun or Linux?

2001-03-07 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Sudjiwo -

On Wednesday 07 March 2001 21:09, Sudjiwo Husodo wrote:
> Hi all !!
>
> We are moving our Radiator on mysql/linux to Oracle due to our billing
> systems that
> is developed on Oracle. We are debating whether to use Oracle/Linux or
> Oracle/Sun.
> Can anybody comment as to which platform is better for Radiator?
>
> We currently have 27 pops (35,000 subscribers) and considering to have a
> copy of
> the local pops subscribers on each pop using Oracle replication (and of
> course a
> local pop radiator). The needs is due to bw savings more than
> infrastructure stability
> in Indonesia. Currently with mysql/linux a centralized radiator works just
> fine. Can
> anybody comment on this approach?

I strongly discourage you from running Oracle replication (or any other 
database replication out to POP locations). There are several reasons for 
this including: bandwidth - SQL takes far more bandwidth than Radius, 
security - keeping secure data at more than one site becomes a serious 
problem, and reliability and performance - database replication is a very 
hard thing to do.

You are *much* better off to put Radius servers at your POP locations, but 
configure them to run as Proxies back to your main site. Radiator allows you 
to both cache Proxy replies (for redundancy) and to write accounting data to 
a local file (for data coherency). This is a far easier approach to manage.

At your main location I would suggest a set up with two Radiator hosts 
outside your Firewall (one as primary and the other as secondary) each one 
running the new load balancing code in Radiator 2.18 (out very soon). Then 
you would have a minimum of two Radiator hosts inside the Firewall, each one 
talking to your main SQL host.

hth

Hugh

-- 
Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server 
anywhere. Available on *NIX, *BSD, Windows 95/98/2000, NT, MacOS X.
-
Nets: internetwork inventory and management - graphical, extensible,
flexible with hardware, software, platform and database independence.

===
Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.



RE: (RADIATOR) Oracle on Sun or Linux?

2001-03-07 Thread Chris Given

Our radius servers running Linux & MySQL / Linux & Connecting to MSSQL have
up to 300 days uptime, and would have more if it wasn't for a power outage
before we had a generator.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:00 AM
To: Sudjiwo Husodo
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Oracle on Sun or Linux?


Our situation is we are using Radiator running on a couple of Solaris/x86 
machines, with Oracle running on the others. When set up correctly, with 
enough hardware thrown at it, I much prefer the reliability of Solairs -
our db server has only crashed once in two years. It *averages* 120 days
uptime, with most reboots being due to scheduled maintainence 
(or power failure). Our best effort with a Linux box in terms of stability
on a loaded server before it started behaving badly was about an average
of 60 days. However this was with older kernels - YMMV...

Jeremy

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:09:46PM +0700, Sudjiwo Husodo wrote:
> Hi all !!
> 
> We are moving our Radiator on mysql/linux to Oracle due to our billing
> systems that
> is developed on Oracle. We are debating whether to use Oracle/Linux or
> Oracle/Sun.
> Can anybody comment as to which platform is better for Radiator?
> 
> We currently have 27 pops (35,000 subscribers) and considering to have a
> copy of
> the local pops subscribers on each pop using Oracle replication (and of
> course a
> local pop radiator). The needs is due to bw savings more than
infrastructure
> stability
> in Indonesia. Currently with mysql/linux a centralized radiator works just
> fine. Can
> anybody comment on this approach?
> 
> Regards,
> Sudjiwo
> 
> 
> ===
> Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
> Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
> 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.

-- 
Jeremy Burton
Database Administrator, Netspace Online Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

===
Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.

===
Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.



Re: (RADIATOR) Oracle on Sun or Linux?

2001-03-07 Thread Mariano Absatz

We are running a smaller setup, about 10,000 subscriber in only one POP 
for 99% on-line wireless connections (not dial-up), meaning, mostly long 
connections (but when the NAS falls for some reason and comes back alive 
again, we have hundreds of requests all at once).

We are using radiator on a netra t1, openldap 2.0.7 in another netra t1 
for most authentications (there is also ipass, but it's very seldom 
used), and mysql for accounting on yet another netra t1 (the session 
database is on the same radiator host, also with mysql).

The accounting database is not actually used for accounting (for now, 
they are selling flat fee connections), but only for debugging and 
incident tracking, and quering it sometimes bogged down the server.

Radiator has been running for 4 months wihtout a hitch. It NEVER went 
down, we upgraded from 2.16.3 to 2.17.1 and changed the configurations 
several times (from enabling/disabling a trace 4 to changing the logic of 
the config file), and it NEVER failed.

We do all the testing before going live on an intel box with RedHat 6.2 
on it and that never went down, either, anyway, that box never had real 
load.

Just my 2cents...

El 7 Mar 2001, a las 17:09, Sudjiwo Husodo escribió:

> Hi all !!
> 
> We are moving our Radiator on mysql/linux to Oracle due to our billing
> systems that
> is developed on Oracle. We are debating whether to use Oracle/Linux or
> Oracle/Sun.
> Can anybody comment as to which platform is better for Radiator?
> 
> We currently have 27 pops (35,000 subscribers) and considering to have a
> copy of
> the local pops subscribers on each pop using Oracle replication (and of
> course a
> local pop radiator). The needs is due to bw savings more than infrastructure
> stability
> in Indonesia. Currently with mysql/linux a centralized radiator works just
> fine. Can
> anybody comment on this approach?
> 
> Regards,
> Sudjiwo
> 
> 
> ===
> Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
> Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
> 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.



===
Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.



Re: (RADIATOR) Oracle on Sun or Linux?

2001-03-07 Thread Jeremy Burton

Our situation is we are using Radiator running on a couple of Solaris/x86 
machines, with Oracle running on the others. When set up correctly, with 
enough hardware thrown at it, I much prefer the reliability of Solairs -
our db server has only crashed once in two years. It *averages* 120 days
uptime, with most reboots being due to scheduled maintainence 
(or power failure). Our best effort with a Linux box in terms of stability
on a loaded server before it started behaving badly was about an average
of 60 days. However this was with older kernels - YMMV...

Jeremy

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:09:46PM +0700, Sudjiwo Husodo wrote:
> Hi all !!
> 
> We are moving our Radiator on mysql/linux to Oracle due to our billing
> systems that
> is developed on Oracle. We are debating whether to use Oracle/Linux or
> Oracle/Sun.
> Can anybody comment as to which platform is better for Radiator?
> 
> We currently have 27 pops (35,000 subscribers) and considering to have a
> copy of
> the local pops subscribers on each pop using Oracle replication (and of
> course a
> local pop radiator). The needs is due to bw savings more than infrastructure
> stability
> in Indonesia. Currently with mysql/linux a centralized radiator works just
> fine. Can
> anybody comment on this approach?
> 
> Regards,
> Sudjiwo
> 
> 
> ===
> Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
> Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
> 'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.

-- 
Jeremy Burton
Database Administrator, Netspace Online Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

===
Archive at http://www.starport.net/~radiator/
Announcements on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with
'unsubscribe radiator' in the body of the message.