Re: (RADIATOR) finger problem

1999-06-11 Thread Mike McCauley

Hello Ferhat.

What NasType are you using, and what does your finger say when it times out?
Try running it by hand, to see.

With that information, we might be able add a patch that will detect a timeout
and not delete the user.

Cheers.


On Jun 11, 10:30am, Ferhat Dilman wrote:
 Subject: (RADIATOR) finger problem
 Hi,

 We are using Radiator 2.13.1 on Solaris with Oracle v8.

 There are several POP's and we use finger for ghost sessions. We use Ascend
 TNTs.

 Radiator is in location Istanbul for example, and one of the POP's are in
 other city e.g. Ankara. When the line goes down between Istanbul-Ankara, and
 the user tries to logon in Istanbul, since the user information still on
 RADONLINE, it tries to check it thru finger and since the line is down,
 finger WAITS! a longtime thus Radiator does not respond other requests till
 the finger request is finished (single process that is).

 Then eventually finger timeouts and the session is deleted from RADONLINE
 and user is permitted. However this has two problems:
 1- User may be still online in Ankara (thus simultanous sessions)
 2- finger waits too long and no user auth is accepted till timeout of finger

 Any solutions to finger problem when the line is down? How can we
 automatically cancel finger requests if the line is down between POP and
 Radiator-Host location?

 Thanks very much,

 Ferhat


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RE: (RADIATOR) finger problem

1999-06-11 Thread Ferhat Dilman

Hi,

NasType Ascend

and the log:

Wed Jun  9 01:13:20 1999: ERR: The internal finger client failed with: Can't
con
nect to 195.x.x.x: Connection timed out
Wed Jun  9 01:13:20 1999: NOTICE:  Session for xx at 195.x.x.x:90 has
gone away

(I have deleted user information and NAS identifier IP address)

Thanks,

Ferhat

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 Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) finger problem


 Hello Ferhat.

 What NasType are you using, and what does your finger say
 when it times out?
 Try running it by hand, to see.

 With that information, we might be able add a patch that will
 detect a timeout
 and not delete the user.

 Cheers.


 On Jun 11, 10:30am, Ferhat Dilman wrote:
  Subject: (RADIATOR) finger problem
  Hi,
 
  We are using Radiator 2.13.1 on Solaris with Oracle v8.
 
  There are several POP's and we use finger for ghost
 sessions. We use Ascend
  TNTs.
 
  Radiator is in location Istanbul for example, and one of
 the POP's are in
  other city e.g. Ankara. When the line goes down between
 Istanbul-Ankara, and
  the user tries to logon in Istanbul, since the user
 information still on
  RADONLINE, it tries to check it thru finger and since the
 line is down,
  finger WAITS! a longtime thus Radiator does not respond
 other requests till
  the finger request is finished (single process that is).
 
  Then eventually finger timeouts and the session is deleted
 from RADONLINE
  and user is permitted. However this has two problems:
  1- User may be still online in Ankara (thus simultanous sessions)
  2- finger waits too long and no user auth is accepted till
 timeout of finger
 
  Any solutions to finger problem when the line is down? How can we
  automatically cancel finger requests if the line is down
 between POP and
  Radiator-Host location?
 
  Thanks very much,
 
  Ferhat
 
 
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Re: (RADIATOR) finger problem

1999-06-11 Thread Stephen Roderick

On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Mike McCauley wrote:

 Hello Ferhat.
 
 What NasType are you using, and what does your finger say when it times out?
 Try running it by hand, to see.
 
 With that information, we might be able add a patch that will detect a timeout
 and not delete the user.

The BIG problem isn't deleting the user, it is the HUGE delay that occurs
while Radiator is trying to verify the user. This stops all other
authentications, and when you are running a lot of ports it is disastrous.

Steve

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Re: (RADIATOR) finger problem

1999-06-11 Thread James H. Thompson

One quick solution would be to write your own finger client for 
Radiator to run.  It could do things like:
use a shorter timeout
remember the state of the line from previous calls
etc.

On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Stephen Roderick wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Mike McCauley wrote:
 
  Hello Ferhat.
  
  What NasType are you using, and what does your finger say when it times out?
  Try running it by hand, to see.
  
  With that information, we might be able add a patch that will detect a timeout
  and not delete the user.
 
 The BIG problem isn't deleting the user, it is the HUGE delay that occurs
 while Radiator is trying to verify the user. This stops all other
 authentications, and when you are running a lot of ports it is disastrous.
 
 Steve
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Internet Access Provider
 (541) 757-0248
 
 
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