Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-12 Thread radish

fully;470996 Wrote: 
 
 Now why would it be so hard to support that kind of line, if you forget
 for a second how cumbersome it will be to enter it into the radio?

Because that's exactly the problem. WPA key is defined as a limited
subset of 7-bit ASCII, so that's already covered. Any valid WPA key can
be entered on the Radio. The character set for SSID is however not
defined, it's actually just spec'ced as bytes, so the text
representation is up to the implementation. Adding the entire 8-bit
ASCII set to the text entry control would slow down everyone else's
entry speed significantly just to cater to an edge case. 

I'll ask again - why would you want to set your SSID to something that
looks like a CRC error? It doesn't provide any additional security so I
just don't see the point. Having said that, it would probably work if
you stopped hiding the SSID as wellwhich is another pointless non
security-enhancing measure that people seem to think is a good idea.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-12 Thread radish

MelonMonkey;470869 Wrote: 
 
 XP doesn't (generally) support WPA nor WPA2.
Huh? I have a bunch of XP boxes that would like to disagree with you.
I'm using WPA2/AES with a 16-char key.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-12 Thread vw195

radish;471032 Wrote: 
 Huh? I have a bunch of XP boxes that would like to disagree with you.
 I'm using WPA2/AES with a 16-char key.

I don't understand this comment either.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-12 Thread vw195

I was a little unclear but I was agreeing with Radish as I have WPA2-AES
using XP as well.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-11 Thread radish

fully;470070 Wrote: 
 Here is an example of how the SSID would look:
 µ¡QZW`T!+ZZdQÊøÈuaâ$s°¿(îyãHÕ
 

Why on EARTH would you set your SSID to that?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-11 Thread MelonMonkey

If you want to secure your network you should learn a bit about wireless
security. Crazy SSID or non-broadcast ID do absolutely nothing to secure
your network.  Nothing.  Any idiot with a a tool to break your
encryption will also be able to find your network whether or not it has
an SSID.

Also, the characters valid for your passphrase has nothing to do with
the characters allowed for an SSID.

A number of products don't properly support WPA nor WPA2. The most
popular product I can think of is called Windows.  XP doesn't
(generally) support WPA nor WPA2.  Well, if you call a pass phrase of
*exactly* 13 characters support - that's not to spec.

WPA2 with AES is the only thing you need to set up and then pick
yourself a decent pass phrase.  WEP can be broken faster than you can
type a new pass phrase and WPA with TKIP can be figured out pretty
quickly according to reports (never done that one myself).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-10 Thread toby10

I'm not tech savvy enough to understand exactly what you are asking.
But I can tell you that my network is WPA2 with a 63 character key
generated from one of those web sites that randomly selects a
combination of numbers, letters, symbols.. and all of my SB players
including Radio connect fine.

All players will ask for you to enter your SSID if your SSID is hidden.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-10 Thread Phil Leigh

toby10;470068 Wrote: 
 I'm not tech savvy enough to understand exactly what you are asking.
 But I can tell you that my network is WPA2 with a 63 character key
 generated from one of those web sites that randomly selects a
 combination of numbers, letters, symbols.. and all of my SB players
 including Radio connect fine.
 
 All players will ask for you to enter your SSID if your SSID is hidden.

...and hiding your SSID is just pointless and makes life hard for you.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wi-Fi connection details

2009-10-09 Thread radish

WPA uses a key made up not of the full 255 character ASCII set but the
so-called printable ASCII set (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII#ASCII_printable_characters). As far
as I know, Radio will let you enter any of those.


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