[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis
We are a couple years early, but I remember reading about plans for a fairly comprehensive bike and pedestrian path underway in Indianapolis and being fairly impressed all things considered: http://www.indyculturaltrail.org/timeline.html Especially downstate Indiana has some nice bike country. A lot of uncrowded country roads going over moderately rolling terrain. Nice place to visit late Fall when Wisconsin and Iowa are starting to get nippy. I probably will bring one of my bikes with me. Too bad Amtrak no longer goes to Indy from Chicago. On Dec 22, 10:07 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering whether to attend NAHBS 2009 in Indianapolis. Rumor has it that Indy isn't much of a cycling town. Anybody have experience cycling there? Any recommended rides? Obviously, it's not an optimal time of the year, but I can enjoy cycling in fairly inclement weather. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis
Too bad Amtrak no longer goes to Indy from Chicago. Sorry. Meant to say too bad the schedule is so abbreviated. On Dec 22, 11:16 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: We are a couple years early, but I remember reading about plans for a fairly comprehensive bike and pedestrian path underway in Indianapolis and being fairly impressed all things considered: http://www.indyculturaltrail.org/timeline.html Especially downstate Indiana has some nice bike country. A lot of uncrowded country roads going over moderately rolling terrain. Nice place to visit late Fall when Wisconsin and Iowa are starting to get nippy. I probably will bring one of my bikes with me. Too bad Amtrak no longer goes to Indy from Chicago. On Dec 22, 10:07 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering whether to attend NAHBS 2009 in Indianapolis. Rumor has it that Indy isn't much of a cycling town. Anybody have experience cycling there? Any recommended rides? Obviously, it's not an optimal time of the year, but I can enjoy cycling in fairly inclement weather.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: AHH rear eyelets
Do you mean one per side on the rear, or do you mean just one on one rear dropout and not one on the other rear dropout? On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Greenwayrider sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone know why my AHH only has one rear dropout eyelet? Just curious. Thanks for any replies. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] looking for.....
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[RBW] Re: AHH rear eyelets
sorry, one per side. On Dec 22, 12:25 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mean one per side on the rear, or do you mean just one on one rear dropout and not one on the other rear dropout? On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Greenwayrider sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone know why my AHH only has one rear dropout eyelet? Just curious. Thanks for any replies. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: AHH rear eyelets
Weight savings. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Greenwayrider sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone know why my AHH only has one rear dropout eyelet? Just curious. Thanks for any replies. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis
My daughter lives in Indy reports it's not too bike friendly. The people are great but the roads are narrow, shoulderless no bike lanes. Hodson's Bay Company in West Lafayette http://www.hodsonsbay.com/links.html has links to local organizations. They also stock a great book entitled Back Roads of Indiana by Charlie Myer. It's got highly detailed maps by county with routes listed a key map of the state so you can stitch together routes that cover more than one county. The more interesting cycling is in the southern part of the state. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:08 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] NAHBS Indianapolis I'm considering whether to attend NAHBS 2009 in Indianapolis. Rumor has it that Indy isn't much of a cycling town. Anybody have experience cycling there? Any recommended rides? Obviously, it's not an optimal time of the year, but I can enjoy cycling in fairly inclement weather. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: AHH rear eyelets
On Dec 22, 12:07 pm, Greenwayrider sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone know why my AHH only has one rear dropout eyelet? Just curious. Thanks for any replies. Most that I've seen have two (per side), like my AHH, and I guess some have only one. It isn't a big deal though. You can easily mount both fenders and rack on just one set of eyelets. A run of different dropouts perhaps? John McMurry Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
Keep us posted if this idea gains traction. My brother lives in O'side and I've ridden there with him a few times. Some very nice rides in the area. To the north there's the Pendleton ride through the Marine base and up the coast to Trestles and San Onofre. Southward there's Swami's and La Jolla. Best burritos are in Carlsbad. I haven't traveled with my Ram before, but there's always a first time. If we wanted to get ambitious (in terms of organization) it's worth thinking about the Tour de (duh?) California's schedule. I believe the ninth and final stage will start in the Escondido area. Brian On Dec 21, 11:20 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, great idea! L.A./O.C./I.E. folks could Metrolink down to Oceanside, S.D. people could Metrolink or ride up. Everyone rolls south and then can Metrolink home! Oceanside could be the meet-up, or maybe even San Clemente if we're really motivated (not sure what shape I'm in for that, but an option...) DE On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Although I'm up on Orange County, I'd be interested. So far, I've only run into one other Riv rider in my area, another guy with an Atlantis, he lives about 5 miles away. One of the things my touring buds I do is take Metrolink down to Oceanside either ride from there south or a couple of times we've taken the Sprinter out to Escondido ridden from there. Downtown for an overnight or loops back to Oceanside. Basically north county for you guys. Might be fun to explore further south. Keep me in the loop. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:36 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today! Esteban, That sounds good to me, I'll be back after the new year as well. I know I met a guy in Encinitas one that said he rode an Atlantis I think... Chris On Dec 20, 8:58 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats on the mileage. We need to get a little San Diego ride together - maybe up to one of our stellar breweries. I'm back in town from SF after the new year. There's quite a few of us, I think. On Dec 20, 4:21 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:35 -0800, Chris wrote: Thanks Patrick! BTW- To all the Saluki owners...I really wasn't saying the Bleriot is comperable the Saluki, I'm sure there are tons of differences...it was just striking to see the similarities. Of course, the description of what the intent of the bike is is pretty much the same on the Riv site. Actually, the similarities are intentional. The Bleriot was intended to be a less expensive version of the Saluki. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Bronx cheer for the postal service
My copies of BQ and the Rivendell Holiday Catalog arrived today! peace, shalom, salaam, Michael Westford, Vt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
It starts in Ranch Bernardo (Poway area) and finishes in downtoen Escondido...sounds good to me Chris On Dec 22, 12:44 pm, rinjin feltov...@gmail.com wrote: Keep us posted if this idea gains traction. My brother lives in O'side and I've ridden there with him a few times. Some very nice rides in the area. To the north there's the Pendleton ride through the Marine base and up the coast to Trestles and San Onofre. Southward there's Swami's and La Jolla. Best burritos are in Carlsbad. I haven't traveled with my Ram before, but there's always a first time. If we wanted to get ambitious (in terms of organization) it's worth thinking about the Tour de (duh?) California's schedule. I believe the ninth and final stage will start in the Escondido area. Brian On Dec 21, 11:20 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, great idea! L.A./O.C./I.E. folks could Metrolink down to Oceanside, S.D. people could Metrolink or ride up. Everyone rolls south and then can Metrolink home! Oceanside could be the meet-up, or maybe even San Clemente if we're really motivated (not sure what shape I'm in for that, but an option...) DE On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Although I'm up on Orange County, I'd be interested. So far, I've only run into one other Riv rider in my area, another guy with an Atlantis, he lives about 5 miles away. One of the things my touring buds I do is take Metrolink down to Oceanside either ride from there south or a couple of times we've taken the Sprinter out to Escondido ridden from there. Downtown for an overnight or loops back to Oceanside. Basically north county for you guys. Might be fun to explore further south. Keep me in the loop. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:36 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today! Esteban, That sounds good to me, I'll be back after the new year as well. I know I met a guy in Encinitas one that said he rode an Atlantis I think... Chris On Dec 20, 8:58 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats on the mileage. We need to get a little San Diego ride together - maybe up to one of our stellar breweries. I'm back in town from SF after the new year. There's quite a few of us, I think. On Dec 20, 4:21 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:35 -0800, Chris wrote: Thanks Patrick! BTW- To all the Saluki owners...I really wasn't saying the Bleriot is comperable the Saluki, I'm sure there are tons of differences...it was just striking to see the similarities. Of course, the description of what the intent of the bike is is pretty much the same on the Riv site. Actually, the similarities are intentional. The Bleriot was intended to be a less expensive version of the Saluki. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] rusty seat tube
Hello all: I bought a used Quickbeam a year ago; and though the outside is still a beautiful green, I'm afraid the inside may be closer to the newer orange color. When I took the seat post out to re-grease and stop the squeaking, it had a couple of rusty veins on it. A have a few questions: 1) If I am to spray some Boshield in there, do I need to remove the bottom bracket so everything runs out? 2) Should I ream and scrape? 3) Does it really matter, since I live in the dry Bay Area and I can just regrease the seat tube? 4) Any other advice? Thanks for your help in advance. --AC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: rusty seat tube
Andy: I would run a rag lightly moistened with oil inside the seat tube to get rid of any surface rust, then grease and insert the seat post. Maybe spray a little Boeshield or FrameSaver down the seat tube and into the top tube while the post is out--SF can get a little moist. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Andy C. wrote: Hello all: I bought a used Quickbeam a year ago; and though the outside is still a beautiful green, I'm afraid the inside may be closer to the newer orange color. When I took the seat post out to re-grease and stop the squeaking, it had a couple of rusty veins on it. A have a few questions: 1) If I am to spray some Boshield in there, do I need to remove the bottom bracket so everything runs out? 2) Should I ream and scrape? 3) Does it really matter, since I live in the dry Bay Area and I can just regrease the seat tube? 4) Any other advice? Thanks for your help in advance. --AC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bronx cheer for the postal service
Neither snow nor rain nor heat of day nor gloom of night shall stay these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: My copies of BQ and the Rivendell Holiday Catalog arrived today! peace, shalom, salaam, Michael Westford, Vt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: rusty seat tube
Andy, I have had a bit of rust form inside the tubes of my All-Rounder (I wasn't quick enough with the frame saver). I basically followed the method Eric Norris recommends and have not had a problem since...it's been 10 years. Based on my experience riding in rain/cyclocross, the seat tube/post is quite suseptable to moisture entry. Angus On Dec 22, 3:37 pm, Andy C. ancas...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all: I bought a used Quickbeam a year ago; and though the outside is still a beautiful green, I'm afraid the inside may be closer to the newer orange color. When I took the seat post out to re-grease and stop the squeaking, it had a couple of rusty veins on it. A have a few questions: 1) If I am to spray some Boshield in there, do I need to remove the bottom bracket so everything runs out? 2) Should I ream and scrape? 3) Does it really matter, since I live in the dry Bay Area and I can just regrease the seat tube? 4) Any other advice? Thanks for your help in advance. --AC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bronx cheer for the postal service
My copy arrived on the 19th, too bad as I would sure have qualified for the 30% off, I'm sure Riv did all possible to get them out on time, things always don't work out. On Dec 22, 2:05 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: My copies of BQ and the Rivendell Holiday Catalog arrived today! peace, shalom, salaam, Michael Westford, Vt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
What's the uncut steer-tube length on the Sam Hillborne fork? The frame is wonderful, but I'm leery of threaded headsets and would want to go threadless if I owned one. Follow-ups: are frames even available with uncut forks? What about the Atlantis and AHH? -Wesley --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:16 -0800, Invisible wrote: What's the uncut steer-tube length on the Sam Hillborne fork? The frame is wonderful, but I'm leery of threaded headsets and would want to go threadless if I owned one. Leery? What's there to be leery about? They're as reliable and dependable as bricks or cement blocks or two by fours. I mean, I can understand if you happen to really like threadless, think it looks good, etc., and would prefer it -- but both work fine and if taken care of both will last a long time. Follow-ups: are frames even available with uncut forks? What about the Atlantis and AHH? Uncut forks is a threadless thing. You typically don't cut threaded forks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bronx cheer for the postal service
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:13 -0800, dally wrote: My copy arrived on the 19th, too bad as I would sure have qualified for the 30% off, I'm sure Riv did all possible to get them out on time, things always don't work out. I thought for sure I'd qualify too: retired, and hell, whose investments didn't take a beating in the current financial mess? Only, they qualified the terms of the deal: retired, investments tanked and you're still trying to live off them and have no other income, and have no money to spend on bike parts. OK, I don't qualify there, and thank goodness. If I did, even with such a great discount, I doubt I'd be buying bike parts... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis
Thanks all for the input. I found a bike map online that indicates a number of greenways and other bike trails, in addition to bike-able city streets, etc. The NAHB show itself is good for about 4 hours of entertainment for me, but the real reason I want to go is to ride my bike (probably Atlantis) in an unfamiliar city. Indy isn't Portland, but it doesn't look that bad. Jim On Dec 22, 1:31 pm, Sarah Gibson sadieja...@hotmail.com wrote: never ridden bikes there myself but this was one listmember or was it ibob anyhoos this is what he had to say damn, flying there so i won't have wheels. kind of a shame, as the town empties at night with huge spread out roads- I was there for a conference and yearning for a bike. It will be a blast for you all. the one thing a bit troublesome with the town was the difficulty finding vegetarian, but i am not terribly picky (outside of that constraint) and can eat quite minimally.peace well behaved women rarely make history_ride yr friggin bicycle_ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
I know that threaded headsets are reliable, of course. But headsets use bearings and as such will occasionally require service. I'd prefer to have a part that I can disassemble (if necessary) on tour with just a 5mm Allen wrench, instead of a couple of tools (32/35mm cone wrenches) that have no other use on a bicycle. If nothing else, I can save $30 by not having to buy the wrenches. A lesser quibble is that a clamping stem (as in threadless-type stems) seems like a better design than the expanding wedge bolt on a threaded- type stem. And finally, I like stems where a cap pops off to release the handlebars over Nitto's design that requires sliding half the handlebar through the stem clamp. Changing handlebars is a lot faster/ easier without unwinding all that bar tape and taking off a brake lever. But I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. And I'd always thought that threaded steer tubes have to be cut to length just like threadless ones do - in fact, I thought it was more important to cut a threaded steerer to length. Otherwise how can a fork fit different-sized bikes with different-sized headtubes? -Wesley --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis
Jim, I wish I could bring my Bleriot, but I fear the airline prices might be a little high... We should try and have a RBW List get together... On Dec 22, 3:09 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the input. I found a bike map online that indicates a number of greenways and other bike trails, in addition to bike-able city streets, etc. The NAHB show itself is good for about 4 hours of entertainment for me, but the real reason I want to go is to ride my bike (probably Atlantis) in an unfamiliar city. Indy isn't Portland, but it doesn't look that bad. Jim On Dec 22, 1:31 pm, Sarah Gibson sadieja...@hotmail.com wrote: never ridden bikes there myself but this was one listmember or was it ibob anyhoos this is what he had to say damn, flying there so i won't have wheels. kind of a shame, as the town empties at night with huge spread out roads- I was there for a conference and yearning for a bike. It will be a blast for you all. the one thing a bit troublesome with the town was the difficulty finding vegetarian, but i am not terribly picky (outside of that constraint) and can eat quite minimally.peace well behaved women rarely make history_ride yr friggin bicycle_ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 16:06 -0800, Invisible wrote: I know that threaded headsets are reliable, of course. But headsets use bearings and as such will occasionally require service. I'd prefer to have a part that I can disassemble (if necessary) on tour with just a 5mm Allen wrench, instead of a couple of tools (32/35mm cone wrenches) that have no other use on a bicycle. If nothing else, I can save $30 by not having to buy the wrenches. A lesser quibble is that a clamping stem (as in threadless-type stems) seems like a better design than the expanding wedge bolt on a threaded- type stem. And finally, I like stems where a cap pops off to release the handlebars over Nitto's design that requires sliding half the handlebar through the stem clamp. Changing handlebars is a lot faster/ easier without unwinding all that bar tape and taking off a brake lever. But I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. For that, I think you'd best call them. As for the other, those may well be perfectly valid reasons to prefer a threadless setup, if that's the way your taste runs. It's certainly a royal pain to have a threaded headset loosen on tour with no hope of finding a proper tool to tighten it, as happened to a guy I was riding with on tour in the Black Hills of SD this summer. Of course, he brought it on himself: loosened the headset at home, forgot to tighten it, brought the tools with him to SD, fixing to do it before we set out, and he didn't remember it until we were 30 miles down the road. And I'd always thought that threaded steer tubes have to be cut to length just like threadless ones do - in fact, I thought it was more important to cut a threaded steerer to length. Otherwise how can a fork fit different-sized bikes with different-sized headtubes? I suppose somewhere in the manufacturing process steerer tubes have to be cut to length, but I've never seen a new bike with a threaded headset where it was an owner's responsibility to do that -- bikes come with forks installed, and part of that is to see to it that the steerer is the right length. Of course, when you can adjust handlebar height by simply moving the stem, the whole process becomes far less critical. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: AHH rear eyelets
on 12/22/08 9:07 AM, Greenwayrider at sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone know why my AHH only has one rear dropout eyelet? Just curious. Mine has one dropout eyelet. 1st run of the Toyo batch from 2007. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes You must be the change you want to see in the world. Mahatma Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
A lesser quibble is that a clamping stem (as in threadless-type stems) seems like a better design than the expanding wedge bolt on a threaded- type stem. Arguably threadless is somewhat stronger - though I have read convincing arguments against this. In any event, threaded is plenty strong for road bikes and mountain bikes your are not taking air borne. And finally, I like stems where a cap pops off to release the handlebars over Nitto's design that requires sliding half the handlebar through the stem clamp. I like that about threadless as well. On the other hand, it is much easier to adjust threaded stems up and down. lBut I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. Grant could probably have Noblilette make you a threadless fork custom. It would cost you no doubt - kind of defeating the purpose of getting a Hillborne. You would probably be better off asking if there is a Hillborne frame without a fork (I suppose one might break during the voyage from Taiwan) and just buy a steel threadless fork from Ben's Cycles or such outlet. On Dec 22, 6:06 pm, Invisible brooks.wes...@gmail.com wrote: I know that threaded headsets are reliable, of course. But headsets use bearings and as such will occasionally require service. I'd prefer to have a part that I can disassemble (if necessary) on tour with just a 5mm Allen wrench, instead of a couple of tools (32/35mm cone wrenches) that have no other use on a bicycle. If nothing else, I can save $30 by not having to buy the wrenches A lesser quibble is that a clamping stem (as in threadless-type stems) seems like a better design than the expanding wedge bolt on a threaded- type stem. And finally, I like stems where a cap pops off to release the handlebars over Nitto's design that requires sliding half the handlebar through the stem clamp. Changing handlebars is a lot faster/ easier without unwinding all that bar tape and taking off a brake lever. But I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. And I'd always thought that threaded steer tubes have to be cut to length just like threadless ones do - in fact, I thought it was more important to cut a threaded steerer to length. Otherwise how can a fork fit different-sized bikes with different-sized headtubes? -Wesley --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
on 12/22/08 6:49 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com replied to: lBut I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. with: Grant could probably have Noblilette make you a threadless fork custom. It would cost you no doubt - kind of defeating the purpose of getting a Hillborne. You would probably be better off asking if there is a Hillborne frame without a fork (I suppose one might break during the voyage from Taiwan) and just buy a steel threadless fork from Ben's Cycles or such outlet. Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for. ...and lemme tell you, I think GP is onto something here. Had a quick ride on Sam and Betty today and was pretty impressed. I'll start a separate thread later this pm. I think it's unlikely to find an aftermarket steel fork that will have the appropriate dimensions _and_ be 1 threadless. And it would be missing the braze-ons. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
on 12/22/08 7:19 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 12/22/08 6:49 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com replied to: lBut I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. with: Grant could probably have Noblilette make you a threadless fork custom. It would cost you no doubt - kind of defeating the purpose of getting a Hillborne. You would probably be better off asking if there is a Hillborne frame without a fork (I suppose one might break during the voyage from Taiwan) and just buy a steel threadless fork from Ben's Cycles or such outlet. Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for. sorry - wasn't quite clear in this post. I meant that if you knew that's what you wanted, it would make sense to try to see if you could order it now, while the frames are being built. If there's a possibility, it's best pursued now while orders are being put together and finalized. I'd give 'em a call over at RBWHQL. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
From what I have seen, one-inch threadless forks of any description are pretty scarce. I have one bike in particular that I'd like to switch to threadless, but I haven't run across anything suitable. New uncut one inch threadless steel forks tend to be generic and the tubing is usually not specified. I looked into having the steer tube replaced, and like a lot of things it is fairly easy to have done but not cheap. It's not that big a deal on this particular bike, a Merckx I've converted to fixed, but I would like a stiffer front end. Out of the saddle mashing up a hill makes the M bar pretty floppy, even on an 80mm Dirt Drop all the way down in the fork. The Dirt Drops are great stems; the stiffest aluminum quill stems I've found. I think it would be cool to have the option of threadless on a new Riv, kind of like the custom color option. Nickel plated fillet brazed or lugged stems would look really good on a Riv with a threadless setup. But then lots of things would be cool. On Dec 22, 9:39 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 12/22/08 7:19 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 12/22/08 6:49 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com replied to: lBut I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. with: Grant could probably have Noblilette make you a threadless fork custom. It would cost you no doubt - kind of defeating the purpose of getting a Hillborne. You would probably be better off asking if there is a Hillborne frame without a fork (I suppose one might break during the voyage from Taiwan) and just buy a steel threadless fork from Ben's Cycles or such outlet. Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for. sorry - wasn't quite clear in this post. I meant that if you knew that's what you wanted, it would make sense to try to see if you could order it now, while the frames are being built. If there's a possibility, it's best pursued now while orders are being put together and finalized. I'd give 'em a call over at RBWHQL. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
Rivendell approved: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/handlebars_stems_and_tape?page=all#product=16-148 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote: From what I have seen, one-inch threadless forks of any description are pretty scarce. I have one bike in particular that I'd like to switch to threadless, but I haven't run across anything suitable. New uncut one inch threadless steel forks tend to be generic and the tubing is usually not specified. I looked into having the steer tube replaced, and like a lot of things it is fairly easy to have done but not cheap. It's not that big a deal on this particular bike, a Merckx I've converted to fixed, but I would like a stiffer front end. Out of the saddle mashing up a hill makes the M bar pretty floppy, even on an 80mm Dirt Drop all the way down in the fork. The Dirt Drops are great stems; the stiffest aluminum quill stems I've found. I think it would be cool to have the option of threadless on a new Riv, kind of like the custom color option. Nickel plated fillet brazed or lugged stems would look really good on a Riv with a threadless setup. But then lots of things would be cool. On Dec 22, 9:39 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 12/22/08 7:19 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 12/22/08 6:49 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com replied to: lBut I don't want to start an argument over this, I just want to know whether I can get an Rivendell sells uncut forks for use with a 1 threadless headset - and if so, how long is the steerer. with: Grant could probably have Noblilette make you a threadless fork custom. It would cost you no doubt - kind of defeating the purpose of getting a Hillborne. You would probably be better off asking if there is a Hillborne frame without a fork (I suppose one might break during the voyage from Taiwan) and just buy a steel threadless fork from Ben's Cycles or such outlet. Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for. sorry - wasn't quite clear in this post. I meant that if you knew that's what you wanted, it would make sense to try to see if you could order it now, while the frames are being built. If there's a possibility, it's best pursued now while orders are being put together and finalized. I'd give 'em a call over at RBWHQL. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bronx cheer for the postal service
The whole discount thing was a little unclear. I read it several times and still kind of thought it was a discount for all members who had been affected by the poor economy. Too many ifs, ands, and ors... (apostrophe or not?). On Dec 22, 2:45 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:13 -0800, dally wrote: My copy arrived on the 19th, too bad as I would sure have qualified for the 30% off, I'm sure Riv did all possible to get them out on time, things always don't work out. I thought for sure I'd qualify too: retired, and hell, whose investments didn't take a beating in the current financial mess? Only, they qualified the terms of the deal: retired, investments tanked and you're still trying to live off them and have no other income, and have no money to spend on bike parts. OK, I don't qualify there, and thank goodness. If I did, even with such a great discount, I doubt I'd be buying bike parts... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
