[RBW] WTB: 9 speed Campagnolo downtube shifters
Howdy folks Long shot, I'm sure, but I would like to find a nice set of Campy 9S downtube shifters. Anybody have some to spare? Thanks, Doug --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My Atlantis headbadge is glued on. Had the bike 6 years never noticed. Uh, oh, shows how thoroughly I clean! In the past, I've had other bikes with glued headbadges, back when bikes had headbadges. Don't forget, lots of parts of an airplane are glued together. It's not necessarily a skimp. Enjoy the ride don't sweat the small stuff. Parts of my (dear) old van are held on by Shoe Goo and the like. Good stuff. Now y'all have got me thinking I ought to glue a Riv headbadge onto it, using Goop, of course. (In front; the rear is covered with stickers as well as with 3 of my daughter's magnetic Little Women paperdolls.) *Are* there Riv stickers, bumperstickers, or badges that are flat or can be flattened without breaking them? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!
Of course, if a Riv were in a crash hard enough to splinter a Madone, it would get pretty beat up itself, no? Possibly get bent, dented or scratched. I do not think a human riding a steel bike could accelerate it to a point where a crash would splinter the steel. Cars can hit another car or fixed object with enough speed to splinter steel. I expect if they hit a bike that hard, the bike would more likely be thrown a great distance before splintering (agree it would make little difference to the rider on said bike) I am serious about wanting to see photos of broken carbon, btw. And this raises a question about carbon fiber: I suppose that part of the problem is stupid light cf, not cf per se, right? So, if you made a bike of cf that isn't stupidly light, would it have any advantage over steel? I do not know the answer to that question. It could be carbon, like glass, also needs to be more thick before it stops being so brittle. As such, you would have to have components designed for the wider tubing. Price of the thicker carbon would be another possibly disadvantageous factor. On Feb 2, 9:22 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:21 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Watching carbon bikes explode has me sworn off ever riding one. Can anyone post links to footage or photos? I'd love to see such a crash in slow motion, splinters lazily turning through the air. Of course, if a Riv were in a crash hard enough to splinter a Madone, it would get pretty beat up itself, no? I've had two accidents on my 2 remaining custom Rivs: one, '99 Joe gofast, I hit a curb (slowly) in twilight and had to get a new fork. No damage to frame. In fact, I rode the bike home that evening; high trail! T'other: a right turning car knocked me down as we were both starting up as the light turned green. Some damage to me but none to the bike. I am serious about wanting to see photos of broken carbon, btw. And this raises a question about carbon fiber: I suppose that part of the problem is stupid light cf, not cf per se, right? So, if you made a bike of cf that isn't stupidly light, would it have any advantage over steel? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!
I am serious about wanting to see photos of broken carbon, btw. And this raises a question about carbon fiber: I suppose that part of the problem is stupid light cf, not cf per se, right? So, if you made a bike of cf that isn't stupidly light, would it have any advantage over steel? Here are some photo links to busted carbon, they aren't too hard to find: http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F6P/YA7O/3RIEWZM4PAV/F6PYA7O3RIEWZM4PAV.MEDIUM.jpg http://www.rideyourbike.com/images/brokencarbonfiber.jpg Here's a whole blog devoted to the topic: http://bustedcarbon.blogspot.com/2008/10/road-kill-2.html At Riv HQ, they did some fencing with a steel fork and carbon fork. Carbon fork broke, steel fork paint was scratched. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
on 2/2/09 10:15 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be using it as a daily-use bike for transportation/errands and on the weekends for longer journeys. I tend to carry stuff with me as I go - even if it is just little stuff. Not likely much off-road, though. Some good setups shown in the Atlantis Flyer, towards the latter pages: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/atlflyer/index.html And of course, some beautiful setups here: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
A normal build per Riv will get you great versatility. Pick whatever bars you're comfortable with (drops, M'stashe, flat), your favorite saddle pedals go from there. The Sugino triple is a great value with a wide range 8 speed cassette you'll have as wide a range of gearing as you'll need. The Nitto big rear rack is solid gives you a lot of space to lash down awkward things. I use a Hobo bag as a saddlebag, then just move it up front when I need more space on the Nitto. I bought the Atlantis for touring but it's so versatile comfortable it's my daily ride. One thing I would change in retrospect: I got 175 cranks, not understanding the low BB height. I'd go 170s if I did it again. No biggie, not worth worrying about now. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:16 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What's your intended use? i.e., touring, day trips, off-road? I'll be using it as a daily-use bike for transportation/errands and on the weekends for longer journeys. I tend to carry stuff with me as I go - even if it is just little stuff. Not likely much off-road, though. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
Oh yeah! Sorry; it must be middle age... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: But I followed him online for awhile; no examples of the Rivendell bikes were available to me until I saw one at a Seattle Bike Show in 1987? 1988? 1989? I think you must mean 1997, or 1998. -sv -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Again, I run a 108mm phil on my atlantis. no problems with a crown logo xd2. maybe a change occured with the introduction of the kickstand plate? not enough clearance any longer? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Something's still not quite right. Just copied from Riv's website a minute ago: Rivendell models except the Atlantis: 113mm. The Atlantis: 107mm. dougP I wasn't sure if I actually posted this link, but the RBW-rec for the Atlantis was changed to 110-113 in 11/07 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/bb-spindle-lengths - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Erik: I assume your Phil BB is offset to the right a few mm. That would make the right side equivalent to a symmetrical 113-ish BB. Unfortunately, most BBs can't be offset like Phil BBs can be. Jim On Feb 2, 3:32 pm, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I run a 108mm phil on my atlantis. no problems with a crown logo xd2. maybe a change occured with the introduction of the kickstand plate? not enough clearance any longer? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Something's still not quite right. Just copied from Riv's website a minute ago: Rivendell models except the Atlantis: 113mm. The Atlantis: 107mm. dougP I wasn't sure if I actually posted this link, but the RBW-rec for the Atlantis was changed to 110-113 in 11/07 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/bb-spindle-lengths - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
No, I have the phil BB centered. I am running the xd2 as a double, but I have plenty of room to add a granny if I desired. I don't know, but I'm staking my money on a difference between the new models and the old. I can't say anything more, as I haven't compared them closely. erik On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Erik: I assume your Phil BB is offset to the right a few mm. That would make the right side equivalent to a symmetrical 113-ish BB. Unfortunately, most BBs can't be offset like Phil BBs can be. Jim On Feb 2, 3:32 pm, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I run a 108mm phil on my atlantis. no problems with a crown logo xd2. maybe a change occured with the introduction of the kickstand plate? not enough clearance any longer? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Something's still not quite right. Just copied from Riv's website a minute ago: Rivendell models except the Atlantis: 113mm. The Atlantis: 107mm. dougP I wasn't sure if I actually posted this link, but the RBW-rec for the Atlantis was changed to 110-113 in 11/07 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/bb-spindle-lengths - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Something's still not quite right. Just copied from Riv's website a minute ago: Rivendell models except the Atlantis: 113mm. The Atlantis: 107mm. dougP I started with a 107mm on my Atlantis and had to have it swapped for a 113mm on account of the fact that there was zero chainring clearance. Mine's a ~2005-ish model with the inornate rounded lugs. Shaun Meehan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Something's still not quite right. Just copied from Riv's website a minute ago: Rivendell models except the Atlantis: 113mm. The Atlantis: 107mm. dougP I started with a 107mm on my Atlantis and had to have it swapped for a 113mm on account of the fact that there was zero chainring clearance. Mine's a ~2005-ish model with the inornate rounded lugs. Shaun Meehan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: strap on down tube shifters/ bosses and silver shifters
And I would like to know if there's a clamp for oversize tubes. On Feb 2, 2:39 pm, TJ Sutton tjs...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old road frame without downtube shifter braze ons but a strap on down shifters. I will try but would like to know if anyone has retro fitted silver shifters to strap on bosses. Hope that makes sense. TJ BreViVelo (because life is a short ride) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
oh and 113mm used with sugino triple. 170mm cranks brooks saddle nitto techtonic stem 112 ritchey ocr wheelset respaced to 135mm( it was there) pasaela tourguard tires 32c ( except when in mtb mode when I fitted some maxxis crossmarks) The above has worked as a good canvas for all the incarnations - still want a rambouillet though On Feb 3, 9:46 am, TJ Ramb tjs...@gmail.com wrote: I'd recommend DOWN TUBE shifters Especially on a first build. - Allows easy transofrmation of the bike from drops to moutached to flat, etc and is encourages you to ride through an unnecessary gear change. in 12 months I have fitted my Atlantis as a virtual 29er mtb, a road bike with 25c tyres and drops, tourer with trekking bars, and flar bar commuter. The Atlantis is a swiss army knife without all the blades you don't use. On Feb 3, 9:29 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
I don't know if I was searching for LOTR related information way back in internet prehistory, on some message boards, or GE net or something like that, all text, I found Grant's early bellyaching and what amounted to blogging early Rivendell Bicycle struggles on line: waxing chains, getting real cloisonne headbadges made, cash flow, etc. I was especially intrigued when I learned he had designed the Bridgestone bikes I saw in a local (Yakima, WA) mountaineering/cycling/ski shop that seemed so smart and well done, even though I couldn't justify one on my teacher's salary, with a young family. But I followed him online for awhile; no examples of the Rivendell bikes were available to me until I saw one at a Seattle Bike Show in 1987? 1988? 1989? Only one bike, someone sitting in the booth, looking bored, with a little pile of brochures, that might have been an early Reader. That bike was a beauty and reminded me of Mercians I had drooled over in the Freewheeling Bike shop in Austin, TX, at least in looks. I never really lusted for the Italians; I'm a tourist, and there were no high-quality French bicycles being imported. And then, I found my Quickbeam through Ebay, after reading something Sheldon Brown wrote: http://sheldonbrown.org/journal/journal-0409.html I read once that Tolkien wrote his fantasies in an attempt to provide the English a mythology, something like the Kalavala for Finland, full of images from his childhood and old and middle English literature, myth, story. It seems to me that Grant has done something like that for American bicycles, grounded in Californian earth and sky, full of memories of English bicycles (via Japan and the rest of Asia), the smells of dust and rain, canvas, leather, wool. They work really well in the desert! I suggest a Hoom of Quickbeams; Hoom is what I say after a little sprint. I first read Tolkien when I was 12, and still enjoy him in a different way now, at 53 and 9/12th. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Paul Cooley pcoo...@cybermesa.com wrote: http://carfreefamily.blogspot.com Santa Fe, NM Are you new to the list? If so, welcome. If not, greeting anyway. I'm an Albuquerquian and I think the last time I rode in Santa Fe was circa 1993; I remember the long slog up the hill to a trailhead just out of town, north I think. It was your blog that caught my eye, and I read your post on the Railrunner with interest; one of these days, in warmer weather, I'll have to try riding one way and taking the RR back. I live about five or six miles along the RG and Paseo trails from the nearest stop. What sort of Rivendell do you have? Lastly, an almost-connection: I *almost* got a job teaching at St John's in SF back in the early '90s; rather glad I did not, after all, but I did follow a similar undergraduate curriculum way back when. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!
I'd love some ice, it's a heatwave here in Sydney, Australia. At 11:00pm it's still 75 degrees and 73% humidity, tomorrow it's going to make 90. The week after they finished the Tour Down Under in Adelaide they had six days over 104 and a peak of 115. Riv content: There was a mass crash on one stage of the Tour and many carbon bikes simply splintered into shards. My witness was a confirmed 'carbon is the greatest thing since peanut butter and banana sandwiches' but not any more. Keep up this idle nonsense, after a day wrestling with computer networks it's wonderful. regards George Millwood Atlantis No 93 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Assuming that you like bar-end shifters, it's not that hard to change bars when bar-end shifters are installed. Just make sure that you don't put the housing under the bar tape. Then the only thing more time-consuming about bar change with bar-ends is that you have to unhook the derailleurs. But that's easy. -Jim -Original Message- From: TJ Ramb tjs...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 5:46 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis I'd recommend DOWN TUBE shifters Especially on a first build. - Allows easy transofrmation of the bike from drops to moutached to flat, etc and is encourages you to ride through an unnecessary gear change. in 12 months I have fitted my Atlantis as a virtual 29er mtb, a road bike with 25c tyres and drops, tourer with trekking bars, and flar bar commuter. The Atlantis is a swiss army knife without all the blades you don't use. On Feb 3, 9:29 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
I dunno about the kickstand plate, mine's older. Do Phil's match up with Shimano / Tange? _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik jensen Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis Again, I run a 108mm phil on my atlantis. no problems with a crown logo xd2. maybe a change occured with the introduction of the kickstand plate? not enough clearance any longer? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
I don't know why a tange BB wouldn't be the same width as a phil, but I don't have vast mechanic knowledge or anything of the sort. also, dockers are 34x34. quickbeam is 49x19. atlantis chainrings are 46 34 too much fixed gear on the brain lately. erik On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I dunno about the kickstand plate, mine's older. Do Phil's match up with Shimano / Tange? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *erik jensen *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 1:32 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis Again, I run a 108mm phil on my atlantis. no problems with a crown logo xd2. maybe a change occured with the introduction of the kickstand plate? not enough clearance any longer? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
The Atlantis can handle both! At the same time! _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:30 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? _ From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Delivered!
Thanks, I think it was the Wild629 that I needed. I was looking for Marty. Michael On Feb 1, 6:25 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: You should be able to visit the Rivendell bikes pages on Flickr and search on Bombadil. The photos for mine are under the name wild629. I've received comments on one or two, so I think everyone can see them. I have not set anything to a more private mode. Let me know if you still can't see them and I'll look into it further. Try this link and see if it works better: http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=bombadilw=64927372%40N00m=pool --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Seth, Mine was very normal. It was clear powerder coated and I had to chase excess powdercoating from the threads and inside the seat tube. Angus On Feb 1, 10:47 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This will be my first time building up an atlantis and I was wondering if anyone had any special suggestions or hints on things I should do differently for this bike than any other. Thanks, -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
The poor bike doesn't know what it's going to do next! TJ, I'll see if there's a 12 step program for you. :-). -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TJ Ramb Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:46 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis I'd recommend DOWN TUBE shifters Especially on a first build. - Allows easy transofrmation of the bike from drops to moutached to flat, etc and is encourages you to ride through an unnecessary gear change. in 12 months I have fitted my Atlantis as a virtual 29er mtb, a road bike with 25c tyres and drops, tourer with trekking bars, and flar bar commuter. The Atlantis is a swiss army knife without all the blades you don't use. On Feb 3, 9:29 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: strap on down tube shifters/ bosses and silver shifters
TJ: IIRC this question came up a few days ago, either here or on the iBOB site. Take a look in the archives for say the last week. Wish I could recall the subject line but it wasn't far off yours. It seems there was some critical part that the silvers kit didn't have but memory is fuzzy on that. Hope all that doesn't sound too silly. dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TJ Sutton Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] strap on down tube shifters/ bosses and silver shifters I have an old road frame without downtube shifter braze ons but a strap on down shifters. I will try but would like to know if anyone has retro fitted silver shifters to strap on bosses. Hope that makes sense. TJ BreViVelo (because life is a short ride) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
By setting both derailers on the big-big combo before you start, there's just enough cable slack to slide the levers out of the housings, although it does take some gentle persuasion. This is with the old Suntour non-index ratcheting ones with the stubby black plastic covered levers. Of course, just loosening the cables does the same thing. Neither is much trouble. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Warren Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis Assuming that you like bar-end shifters, it's not that hard to change bars when bar-end shifters are installed. Just make sure that you don't put the housing under the bar tape. Then the only thing more time-consuming about bar change with bar-ends is that you have to unhook the derailleurs. But that's easy. -Jim -Original Message- From: TJ Ramb tjs...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 5:46 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis I'd recommend DOWN TUBE shifters Especially on a first build. - Allows easy transofrmation of the bike from drops to moutached to flat, etc and is encourages you to ride through an unnecessary gear change. in 12 months I have fitted my Atlantis as a virtual 29er mtb, a road bike with 25c tyres and drops, tourer with trekking bars, and flar bar commuter. The Atlantis is a swiss army knife without all the blades you don't use. On Feb 3, 9:29 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: We talking a pair of Dockers or chainrings here? From: erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com hmm... i'm a 46x34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Yea, you'd think Phil's Tange would be interchangeable. But I'm like you - I dunno. Only got one data point. If you added a granny, you've got enough clearance for the ring with the 108? With a 24 granny, I'd have 0-1 mm clearance with a 107. Kinda hard to measure this stuff with just a tape, though. Still sounds kinda close. We're in the how many angels can dance on a millimeter area now. _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik jensen Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis I don't know why a tange BB wouldn't be the same width as a phil, but I don't have vast mechanic knowledge or anything of the sort. atlantis chainrings are 46 34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Squealing Brakes, Redux
Could just be the Oryx brakes. I have one set that's gone on three different bikes. The front brake has squealed on each bike. Tried different pads/toe in, etc. Just figure it's one of those things. Not a fan of it, but learning to live with it. Will probably try some different pads this spring when the current set wears out from muddy riding. Strangely, my Shimano cantilevers don't have the tendency to squeal. Although they can if conditions are just right. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 30, 12:45�am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: In general I find kool stop pads, especially salmon, to be squeaky and not of any increased effectiveness to justify the persnickety squeakiness. My choice these days is actually an el cheapo Tektro V- brake pad that I buy in bulk (25 pairs in a bag) from QBP. I think you can get them in non-bulk quantites, too. Should be about $10-15 for a bikesworth at your LBS. On Jan 29, 10:02�pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 1/29/09 7:02 PM, Ray Shine at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: thanks, David, but the reason I posted is because last week I rolled all the way down from the top of Mt. Tam on the brakes, off, on, etc. for 10 miles or so, and it's just as loud and annoying as ever. Very frustrating. Does anyone out there think it's the Onyx brakes? I haven't used the Oryxes (Oryxi?) specificially, but the Avid 6's I had on the cross bike tended that way. Unless everything was pretty perfect, it would chirp pretty well. �The Oryx is a pretty close design. I might try different pads. It may be just the right combo of grip and dimensions. � Also, clean rims do tend to make more noise, IME. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now availablehttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
well, i'm of the mind that slightly more than 1 mm is all a person really needs--your chain doesn't come close there. Sheldon, iirc, informed that opinion of mine. I think i'd have more like 3-4mm with the granny, for what it's worth. Best, erik On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Yea, you'd think Phil's Tange would be interchangeable. But I'm like you – I dunno. Only got one data point. If you added a granny, you've got enough clearance for the ring with the 108? With a 24 granny, I'd have 0-1 mm clearance with a 107. Kinda hard to measure this stuff with just a tape, though. Still sounds kinda close. We're in the how many angels can dance on a millimeter area now. -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *erik jensen *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis I don't know why a tange BB wouldn't be the same width as a phil, but I don't have vast mechanic knowledge or anything of the sort. atlantis chainrings are 46 ** 34 erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
I was a hardcore Tolkein fan from an early age, read everything I could get my hands on, (Farmer Giles of Ham?) and I have to confess that when I first encountered RBW, I didn't make the connection. I was looking on the Waterford website (because a friend had a Gunnar in a nice color-of-the-month, and it was steel; but was looking for something with more than one purpose, and lacked the spandex). So on Waterford there was a link to RBW, one of only a few links, and when I clicked on it, there was the shot of a cyclist on a trail with a wee baggins on mark's rack on the front, approaching a small creek, and . . . it was as if somebody had made a parody of my ideal cycling shot. For a split second, I did feel as if someone was mocking me. It was just too accurate. The bike was spot on, but I think some percentage of it was also probably the bag. I have always had a fondness for the c.c. filson company and the canvas and the wool. When I finally noticed the Tolkein, I laughed out loud, partly at the confluence of interests, partly at my mental indolence. I like the previously suggested murder of but would assign it to bombadils. Collectively, I don't mind gaggle. (Not so) Specifically, it should be a rake of ... (romulus, redwood, road, rambouillet, even rivendells) something alliterative. Rick. On Feb 2, 1:53 pm, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah! Sorry; it must be middle age... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: But I followed him online for awhile; no examples of the Rivendell bikes were available to me until I saw one at a Seattle Bike Show in 1987? 1988? 1989? I think you must mean 1997, or 1998. -sv -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
How about these names taken from various critter (The reader can research them if interested) gatherings: A zeal of approval? A clat de rear? A descent of Diablo? A knob of shifters? A bale of wicking wool? Oh, the bikes, A route of Rivendells? From: Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com I like the previously suggested murder of but would assign it to bombadils. Collectively, I don't mind gaggle. (Not so) Specifically, it should be a rake of ... (romulus, redwood, road, rambouillet, even rivendells) something alliterative. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
just a few ideas. A Flight of Bleriot A Quiver of Legolas A Moot of Quickbeams (agreeing, not stealing) A Swell of Atlantises A Giggle of Betty Foys A Field of Bombadils A Stand of Redwoods A D'oh of Homer Hilsons (this is not right, but I can't find anything more appropriate) An Expletive of Sam Hillbornes (what the Sam Hill?) An Orbison of Wilburys A Hymn of Glorious' (Gloria?) A Kennel of Saluki A Flock of Rambouillet A Constellation of Romulus (Romuli) A Race of Roads The Hobbit was my bedtime story, aged 8. Then LOTR kept me company for many a school year after that and still is dusted off periodically. Tailwinds --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!
Indeed, I was trying to put a default route in a switch with IP routing and multiple routed VLANs connected and it wasn't working and I was about to pull my hair out. Then I realized that I had to put a COST to the route. Of course! One silly digit. so rather than #ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 168.xx.xx.xx I had to put #ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 168.xx.xx.xx 1 Riv content: I wish I had ridden my Riv to work today, it was a lovely day and warmer than I expected with a high in the lower 60s. The x's were placed to protect the innocent. No network hardware was harmed in the making of this post. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:14 AM, George Millwood millw...@bigpond.net.au wrote: I'd love some ice, it's a heatwave here in Sydney, Australia. At 11:00pm it's still 75 degrees and 73% humidity, tomorrow it's going to make 90. The week after they finished the Tour Down Under in Adelaide they had six days over 104 and a peak of 115. Riv content: There was a mass crash on one stage of the Tour and many carbon bikes simply splintered into shards. My witness was a confirmed 'carbon is the greatest thing since peanut butter and banana sandwiches' but not any more. Keep up this idle nonsense, after a day wrestling with computer networks it's wonderful. regards George Millwood Atlantis No 93 -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!
That 2nd link, it looks like they sawed off that there carbon fiber on purpose ;-) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:44 AM, fiddlr40 mather...@gmail.com wrote: I am serious about wanting to see photos of broken carbon, btw. And this raises a question about carbon fiber: I suppose that part of the problem is stupid light cf, not cf per se, right? So, if you made a bike of cf that isn't stupidly light, would it have any advantage over steel? Here are some photo links to busted carbon, they aren't too hard to find: http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F6P/YA7O/3RIEWZM4PAV/F6PYA7O3RIEWZM4PAV.MEDIUM.jpg http://www.rideyourbike.com/images/brokencarbonfiber.jpg Here's a whole blog devoted to the topic: http://bustedcarbon.blogspot.com/2008/10/road-kill-2.html At Riv HQ, they did some fencing with a steel fork and carbon fork. Carbon fork broke, steel fork paint was scratched. -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges?
And only a dollar! Thanks. Now I need some flame decals for the sides and hood. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Here's what you're looking for: Bumper sticker: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-122 OR (all time worlds worst seller): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-214 dougP -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *PATRICK MOORE *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 7:08 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges? On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My Atlantis headbadge is glued on. Had the bike 6 years never noticed. Uh, oh, shows how thoroughly I clean! In the past, I've had other bikes with glued headbadges, back when bikes had headbadges. Don't forget, lots of parts of an airplane are glued together. It's not necessarily a skimp. Enjoy the ride don't sweat the small stuff. Parts of my (dear) old van are held on by Shoe Goo and the like. Good stuff. Now y'all have got me thinking I ought to glue a Riv headbadge onto it, using Goop, of course. (In front; the rear is covered with stickers as well as with 3 of my daughter's magnetic Little Women paperdolls.) *Are* there Riv stickers, bumperstickers, or badges that are flat or can be flattened without breaking them? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges?
Maybe Chrysler has a kit for the PT Cruiser that you could adapt? I think you need one of those Riv pennants in the back window of your van. _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:42 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges? And only a dollar! Thanks. Now I need some flame decals for the sides and hood. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Here's what you're looking for: Bumper sticker: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-122 OR (all time worlds worst seller): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-214 dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:08 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges? On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My Atlantis headbadge is glued on. Had the bike 6 years never noticed. Uh, oh, shows how thoroughly I clean! In the past, I've had other bikes with glued headbadges, back when bikes had headbadges. Don't forget, lots of parts of an airplane are glued together. It's not necessarily a skimp. Enjoy the ride don't sweat the small stuff. Parts of my (dear) old van are held on by Shoe Goo and the like. Good stuff. Now y'all have got me thinking I ought to glue a Riv headbadge onto it, using Goop, of course. (In front; the rear is covered with stickers as well as with 3 of my daughter's magnetic Little Women paperdolls.) *Are* there Riv stickers, bumperstickers, or badges that are flat or can be flattened without breaking them? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges?
Nah, the pennant is too classy looking. But perhaps a pair of those nekkid woman silhouette mudflaps On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Maybe Chrysler has a kit for the PT Cruiser that you could adapt? I think you need one of those Riv pennants in the back window of your van. -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *PATRICK MOORE *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 7:42 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges? And only a dollar! Thanks. Now I need some flame decals for the sides and hood. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Here's what you're looking for: Bumper sticker: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-122 OR (all time worlds worst seller): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/promotional#product=24-214 dougP -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *PATRICK MOORE *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 7:08 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges? On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My Atlantis headbadge is glued on. Had the bike 6 years never noticed. Uh, oh, shows how thoroughly I clean! In the past, I've had other bikes with glued headbadges, back when bikes had headbadges. Don't forget, lots of parts of an airplane are glued together. It's not necessarily a skimp. Enjoy the ride don't sweat the small stuff. Parts of my (dear) old van are held on by Shoe Goo and the like. Good stuff. Now y'all have got me thinking I ought to glue a Riv headbadge onto it, using Goop, of course. (In front; the rear is covered with stickers as well as with 3 of my daughter's magnetic Little Women paperdolls.) *Are* there Riv stickers, bumperstickers, or badges that are flat or can be flattened without breaking them? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glued Headbadges?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Nah, the pennant is too classy looking. But perhaps a pair of those nekkid woman silhouette mudflaps You know you can get those for bikes, too. Something called 'buddy flaps' I think. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Steel vs Carbon
Here's one for you http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/Toddb12345/?action=viewcurrent=StingrayClimb-1.jpg -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Steel vs Carbon
LOVE IT! The guy leading out looks kinda' pissed at the whole situation, but the two behind appreciate the situation. The Stingray guy himself looks like he's loving every minute of it! On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one for you http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/Toddb12345/?action=viewcurrent=StingrayClimb-1.jpg -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Steel vs Carbon
That's great! Thanks for posting. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Speaking of Schwinns ...
http://belligerante.com/default.aspx --Eric Norris Sent from my iPhone 3G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:13 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I came into this the opposite way. I was a BOB, Bridgestone Owner's Bunch member that ended up on the Rivendell mailing list when GP started the company. Although I read the Hobbit and LOTR in middle school, I didn't really make the connection right away. It had been fourteen years or so since I read the books, and Rivendell the place didn't really stand out for me. Plus I'm just slow that way. I'll probably start reading them to my oldest rather soon. Right now going through the L. Frank Baum Oz books which have a lot of the same elements in them. Bonus question: Anybody re-read the LOTR books after seeing the movies, and did that make the books better/worse for you when you read them again? My situation was similar, although I didn't read any Tolkien until I was in my 40s. LOTR and Hobbit were popular among some of my fellow 7th graders (1967-8; Frodo Lives! was a popular graffito) but I somehow never got around to reading them. However, I have read Hobbit and the Trilogy at least 20 times since my first reading; they sit on my shelf and I will often pick them up and skip and skim for a quick before-sleep read. It's funny, even now I don't think of LOTR, etc, when I seen things from Riv Bic Works; I think of Grant. And vice versa: Frodo doesn't make me think fondly of my bikes. I thought the movies were quite well done, as I had been dreading their Hollywood-ization (hobbit song and dance numbers, gratuitous sex and nudity among the elves, slow motion dismemberment, with closeups of severed limbs and spurting arterial blood, among the orcs, car chase scenes in the caverns of Mora, Gimli talking jive). The battle scenes in particular were interesting and, I think, well done, and Gandalf hit the right mix of avuncular crustiness and hieratic wizardly dignity. I found some of the elven folk a little too elevated, and I didn't like Legolas's hairstyle. But all in all, quite well done, from this Hollywood skeptic. But I find the books, still, better, and the movies didn't change my opinion of them. Favorite passages, for the language and the images and feelings they conjure: A strong place and wonderful was Isengard, and long it had been beautiful; and there great lords had dwelt, the wardens of Gondor upon the West, and wise men that watched the stars. But Saruman had slowly shaped it to his shifting purposes, and made it better, as he thought, being deceived -- for all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which donfly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress ... Barad-dur, the Dark Tower, which suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its prie and its immeasurable strength. (II, 8). And: Naked I was sent back -- for a brief time, until my taks was done. And naked I lay upon the mountain-top. The tower behind was crumbled into dust, the window gone; the ruined stair was choked with burned and broken s tone. I was alone, forgotten, without escape upon the hard horn of the world. There I lay staring upward, while the stars wheeled over, and each day was as long as a life-age of the earth. Faint to my ears came the gathered rumour of all lands: the springing and the dying, the song and the weeping, and the slow everlasting groan of overburdened stone. And so at the last Gwaithir the Windlord found me again, and he took me up and bore me away. (II, 5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Steel vs Carbon
Obviously a faked photo. I know this because Stingray guy isn't using clipless pedals. I did something similar a few years ago. I dropped some roadie on his sleek CF machine whilst riding my rusty Raleigh Sports 3-speed. Cranking along in high gear, I passed him easily...until 50 feet in front of him, the clutch slipped (a known flaw of old SA hubs) and I was assaulted painfully by the nose of my saddle and the top-tube, nearly resulting in a crash. He sailed past, and at that moment I swore off racing on my English Racer. On Feb 2, 10:20 pm, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one for you http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/Toddb12345/?action=viewcurre... -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Any inside information on the new Sackville Bags?
And you made fun... Bag News February 2, 2009 Just a quick note-- We're introducing a new line of bags: Sackville (after the famous town in Canada). They should be called Blackville, because they're black. We'll have pixup on the site in a week or less, and if you've room for another bag in your life, they're worth a look or even a long, creepy stare. They're different from anything we've done before, and I think they'll be tough to equal. They're made by a small company comprised of former Coach and DooneyBourke workers who lost their jobs when those companies went to China. The first two bags will be the SaddleSack-Large and the SadleSack- Medium. The large is quite monstrous, but carries weight great. The Medium is more normal, about like a Carradice Nelson Longflap. There have never been better-made bags than these; and the design is good, too. Watch the site in the next week or so, and we'll have them up. Delivery, end of Feb/early March. The big one is $200; the medium, about $175. On Jan 27, 5:33 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: It's dark in there, especially with the flap closed! Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:08:38 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Any inside information on the new Sackville Bags? From: clankbonesh...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I recall reading in November that the Sackville Bags should be arriving anytime. Does anyone have any insider news on these bags? I know the norm is that things get delayed and patients is the best approach to fine things, but I was just wondering if anyone knew anything. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitwor... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tolkien Fans
I've re-read them once, maybe twice. I'm inspired to read them now... :-) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:13 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I guess I came into this the opposite way. I was a BOB, Bridgestone Owner's Bunch member that ended up on the Rivendell mailing list when GP started the company. Although I read the Hobbit and LOTR in middle school, I didn't really make the connection right away. It had been fourteen years or so since I read the books, and Rivendell the place didn't really stand out for me. Plus I'm just slow that way. I'll probably start reading them to my oldest rather soon. Right now going through the L. Frank Baum Oz books which have a lot of the same elements in them. Bonus question: Anybody re-read the LOTR books after seeing the movies, and did that make the books better/worse for you when you read them again? My situation was similar, although I didn't read any Tolkien until I was in my 40s. LOTR and Hobbit were popular among some of my fellow 7th graders (1967-8; Frodo Lives! was a popular graffito) but I somehow never got around to reading them. However, I have read Hobbit and the Trilogy at least 20 times since my first reading; they sit on my shelf and I will often pick them up and skip and skim for a quick before-sleep read. It's funny, even now I don't think of LOTR, etc, when I seen things from Riv Bic Works; I think of Grant. And vice versa: Frodo doesn't make me think fondly of my bikes. I thought the movies were quite well done, as I had been dreading their Hollywood-ization (hobbit song and dance numbers, gratuitous sex and nudity among the elves, slow motion dismemberment, with closeups of severed limbs and spurting arterial blood, among the orcs, car chase scenes in the caverns of Mora, Gimli talking jive). The battle scenes in particular were interesting and, I think, well done, and Gandalf hit the right mix of avuncular crustiness and hieratic wizardly dignity. I found some of the elven folk a little too elevated, and I didn't like Legolas's hairstyle. But all in all, quite well done, from this Hollywood skeptic. But I find the books, still, better, and the movies didn't change my opinion of them. Favorite passages, for the language and the images and feelings they conjure: A strong place and wonderful was Isengard, and long it had been beautiful; and there great lords had dwelt, the wardens of Gondor upon the West, and wise men that watched the stars. But Saruman had slowly shaped it to his shifting purposes, and made it better, as he thought, being deceived -- for all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which donfly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress ... Barad-dur, the Dark Tower, which suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its prie and its immeasurable strength. (II, 8). And: Naked I was sent back -- for a brief time, until my taks was done. And naked I lay upon the mountain-top. The tower behind was crumbled into dust, the window gone; the ruined stair was choked with burned and broken s tone. I was alone, forgotten, without escape upon the hard horn of the world. There I lay staring upward, while the stars wheeled over, and each day was as long as a life-age of the earth. Faint to my ears came the gathered rumour of all lands: the springing and the dying, the song and the weeping, and the slow everlasting groan of overburdened stone. And so at the last Gwaithir the Windlord found me again, and he took me up and bore me away. (II, 5) -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Steel vs Carbon
It's really not faked, I rode with the guy who took the picture on Saturday. We didn't know each other but we both posted pictures of the Bicycle Tour of Colorado to an Austin based email list. He recognized my Riv from the Saturday ride and emailed me. I think if I recall correctly there were 6 Rivendells on that tour in 2006 when I did it. 2 customs, 2 Roms, a Ram, and i don't remember what the red bike was. I took pictures of them all at one point or another. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Brons2/BTC2006/ On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Obviously a faked photo. I know this because Stingray guy isn't using clipless pedals. I did something similar a few years ago. I dropped some roadie on his sleek CF machine whilst riding my rusty Raleigh Sports 3-speed. Cranking along in high gear, I passed him easily...until 50 feet in front of him, the clutch slipped (a known flaw of old SA hubs) and I was assaulted painfully by the nose of my saddle and the top-tube, nearly resulting in a crash. He sailed past, and at that moment I swore off racing on my English Racer. On Feb 2, 10:20 pm, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one for you http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/Toddb12345/?action=viewcurre... -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
