[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
what? this is threadsh**ing. I read this thread because it was about pumps. I am well aware of Velo Orange, thanks. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:05 PM, bpus...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but we've had a power outage here in Kentucky for a one to two weeks (ice storm). Maybe this has been discussed before but has anyone else noticed that more and more Velo Orange bikes are appearing on this site? I own a Rambouillet, Quickbeam, and Hilsen and, while I love all three, I love them in the order I listed them (although I am torn which I love more - the Rambouillet or the Quickbeam). The Rambouillet is my go fast bike and I'm thinking of replacing it and having to seriously look at the Velo Orange bikes since the Rambouillet is asleep for awhile or possibly forever. I know Grant knows more about the business then I do but he's loosing me and others more and more to Velo Orange bikes and other stuff. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 2/7/2009 5:04:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, palin...@his.com writes: For those who don't like the black color, how about polished aluminum instead? Here's mine, as shown on my Velo Orange Randonneur: Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam tires / Handmade bicycle show
I was successfully running 700x42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes under 50mm Berthoud fenders on my Quickbeam. I am headed to Indy for the Handmade Bicycle Show where dreams are free. It will be a whirlwind trip sqeezed into too-busy life. Wish that I could bring a bike and the luxury of time to ride while there. On Feb 7, 8:47 am, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering what are the largest tires that you can fit on a quickbeam. The schwalbe marathon and big apple look great but I'm not sure which (or any) will fit. What have you tried? I have an inexpensive 29er mountain bike with the 60mm big apples and I love it. I've always like bigger tires and have a set of 38s on the quickbeam right now, but given I live in a city with really bad roads (Indianapolis) it would be nice to go one size larger. That said, I live in Indy and if anyone is going to the handmade bicycle show at the end of the month I could give out some info on riding, best bars, etc. (Maybe even set up a happy hour for Riv floks??) thanks, swen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Old Tour de France Photos - a set on Flickr
I know derailleurs were not allowed until 1937, but didn't they use freewheel clusters of 2 or 3 gears a side, at least in the early '30s? I recall seeing photos (the nice Centennial History of the TdF) of riders with what certainly look like clusters and no derailleur. Can anyone confirm or deny again, (1) freewheels and (2) clusters in the pre-derailleur age, at least in the early 1930s? Perhaps fixed on one side, selection of fw cogs on the other? The book in question, which used to be available at Borders, gave a year by year photographic account from contemporary sources of each Tour. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
I like full frame pumps, but have always had a problem keeping them on the bike, without some extra velcro. Also, on a commuter the're just another item to get stolen. I use a mini, which works pretty well, although I find it almost impossible to get over 70 lbs into a tire. I've considered carrying a cartridge to top tires up with, since half my flats seem to happen at a very inconvenient time, like in the rain, or after dark, and I'm not thrilled about the extra time trying to force a few extra lbs. into the tire.. Has anyone tried the combo of a mini and a cartridge. Michael On Feb 7, 5:19 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 06:02 -0800, Jack wrote: My Atlantis and Bleriot both have Topeak Master Blasters. I also have an older Zefal HPx that fits and works fine, but an all black pump doesn't look right on those bikes http://flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668208273/sizes/l/in/set-72157...http://flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668211917/sizes/l/in/set-72157...http://flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668202107/sizes/l/in/set-72157... That's a Zefal HPX, with the black sanded off polished --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Derailleurs in the Tour
Well, The Dancing Chain doesn't help much: Henri Desgrange, who had long opposed variable gears, eventually relented and permitted derailleurs in the 1937 Tour de France. Given the enormous popularity of the Tour, this was hailed as the ultimate victory for the rear derailleur. I do recall reading somewhere that the riders in the TdF were either all fixed or all on freewheels due to the advantage in downhills and cornering offered by a freewheel. Fixed riders would have been at a disadvantage, so all the bikes were kept the same. Perhaps multi- speed freewheels made their appearance before the derailleur needed to shift on them in 1937. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I agree with the tan aesthetics. Planning on using the NS Big Box on a front loader. I've had a Carradice Camper longflap for some time on the back of my Rambouillet with a big Nitto rear rack supporting it, and have used it along with grocery panniers to go to the market. Of course I need to watch how much wieght I put in there- a lot of canned goods makes for an interesting experience in concentrated cycling on the way home. But all said, it's great having a really big bag to throw stuff in. On Feb 6, 4:36 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag. The brown leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me. In general, I prefer my canvas in khaki or forest green. I do love my Riv NS country bag. It's probably the proximate size of the new medium Sackville model. Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the rain. Here's a photo: http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/ Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is the last one I will probably ever need. Lesli Larson On Feb 6, 4:27 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? I've never seen on in person but they look good in the photos seem to be out of the way as far as your hands go. I use my front bag for food, maps, a handy stash spot for clothes. As neat as it looks, the Lil Loafer looked a bit small for the price. But what's your real world experience with it? I have a black nylon ugly trunk bag that's roughly the size of the big loafer. Hate the look but it works that nylon stuff won't die so I have an excuse to replace it. For supported tours it goes on the rear rack the ancient Hobo as a h'bar bag. Between food, clothes, odds'n'ends, I've still managed to max that combo out. The Hobo is actually a bit in the way as a h'bar bag, even with 42 cm. Junk expands to fill the available space. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? I'm torn with them. On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy loking. On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags. Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated. Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to match my lil' loaf. Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack, and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't involve shopping. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Feb 6, 1:56 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C or Camper but the Sackville costs twice as much. The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the boxy shape. Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside the bag. Maybe you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags as I see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the saddlebag tight up against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the bag. I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Floor pump poll
http://www.sks-germany.com/sks.php?l=ena=producti=2191753745 I tried many pumps and this was by fare the best. Easy and sturdy. The new silcas seem junky to me in comparison. On Feb 6, 9:46 pm, Dave in Redding dfal...@charter.net wrote: This is only Riv related because Rivs have tires, but... I've had the same Silca track pump with a Presta head on it since the 70's, and it's been a dependable marvel. However, we have a fleet of bikes now and half of them have Schraeder valves. I have a compressor, but it's a bother running it for a single top off for one bike; I'd rather just grab a floor pump for quick jobs. Is there a hands down favorite floor pump out there? They all do the same thing, of course, but a lot of them are junk. I want an accurate gauge and a dual head. Suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I like full frame pumps, but have always had a problem keeping them on the bike, without some extra velcro. Also, on a commuter the're just another item to get stolen. I use a mini, which works pretty well, although I find it almost impossible to get over 70 lbs into a tire. I've considered carrying a cartridge to top tires up with, since half my flats seem to happen at a very inconvenient time, like in the rain, or after dark, and I'm not thrilled about the extra time trying to force a few extra lbs. into the tire.. Has anyone tried the combo of a mini and a cartridge. No, but the Velo Orange Quicker minipump can actually get a narrow tire to 100 psi without too much cursing and anguish. It is also sub 9 and fits in an Adam or Nelson pocket. It's principal defect is that the grip for the stationary hand is too short, meaning that your left hand (if you are right handed) tends to get pinched lightly as each stroke bottoms out. The Quicker is said to have a variable volume stroke, so it ought to work well, too, with fatter, lower pressure tires. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Today's Film Feature
For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQnQii6Po0 Riv content: Riding a lugged steel bike (Pashley Guv'nor), wearing wool, sitting on a Brooks saddle. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
Dave: Here's a site with a lot of variety: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/ If you happen to find an Atlantis build that was done with component weight in mind, please post as it would be an interesting variation. The Atlantis has always been marketed as a highly versatile, go anywhere, do anything bike, suitable for touring, off roading, you name it. That's why you're not seeing any built up as a go-fast. Big wide tire clearances, cantilever brakes, dripping with rack eyelets even a kick stand plate now, doesn't appeal to someone wanting a light, skinny tired bike. Rivendell certainly always has something available that is more suitable for a go fast but Rivs not going after any the weight conscious crowd. FWIW, my 58 cm Atlantis (standard Riv build components) with no racks, packs, bottles but with Schwalbe Marathon 35 mm tires is around 26 lbs IIRC. But the normal setup includes a Nitto Big rear rack, saddle bag, Marks mini front rack bar tube. That lot tips the scales around 30 lbs without food water. I'd guess my setup is middling to light compared to some of the ones you see with larger tires, baskets, bigger bags, etc. Us Atlanteans just aren't into weight worries - until we've got get the bike on an airplane! dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave C Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:26 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike? Anyone have pictures of Atlantis frames built up as road bikes with skinny tires, lightweight components, etc.? The only ones I see on the web are generally built up for touring use or roads and fire trails. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bleriot sighting in March Bicycling
Lighten up. Chill. The rag only costs $12 per year and the articles are the perfect length for the bathroom. If you don't get enough fiber you might have to read two articles. On Feb 8, 1:39 am, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: you mean the articles on killer abs? Lynne somehow, we are getting it for free again F On Feb 7, 5:34 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Page 78, in full Rived out kit. Just a pic in an unrelated article, but cool seeing it! Flipping through the mag, it looked they had at least three actual articles that focused on something other than lateral stiffness and vertical compliance. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bleriot sighting in March Bicycling
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 17:45 -0800, R Gonet wrote: Lighten up. Chill. The rag only costs $12 per year and the articles are the perfect length for the bathroom. If you don't get enough fiber you might have to read two articles. The paper's too slick for the bathroom. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: secrets for mounting fenders and the nitto big rack
No, but I can take a couple tomorrow. But the bend is not much at all. I placed the loop into a vise and simply bent the wire about 5 degrees. It wasn't much at all. I placed the loop in the vise to keep it from distorting and to force both wires to bend equally. It took about 3 minutes total. I'll post the pix tomorrow afternoon. Ray --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: secrets for mounting fenders and the nitto big rack To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 6:37 PM On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just mounted a set of fenders and ran into the same problem. Yes, I bent the stay and all is well. It definetly required the off set of the loop that holds the screw. Do you have any pictures to go along with this? I'd love to see them to get a good idea how much I need to bend it. Thanks, -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
My Atlantis is built up in the standard component package, and I've added a generator light, Nitto rear rack and Mini front rack, and saddlebag. It weights 30+ pounds with my saddlebag, I'm sure. But I am interested in seeing them built up as road machines after putting some of the 31 mm Avocet Duro Plus skinwall tires on my rims after running the 35 mm Paselas. It felt so much zippier. I'm a light guy (155 #) and some of the component choices I made are a little beefier than I really needed, particularly since I have no time to take it loaded touring. Two little daughters and a high school teaching position has an effect on your time and what you can do, you know :) I was impressed with the low weights of some of the French constructeur bikes highlighted by Jan Heine, and it seems that there are smart ways to keep the functionality of my bike and reduce the weight. For instance, my SKS fenders are warped and the rear is broken, so the replacement fenders will be one of the lighter options out there. I have a heavy Mavic 719 rear rim that I spec'ed for my touring, but I intend on taking one of my lighter rims and using it with the Atlantis. Sometimes I consider removing the Nitto rear rack and replacing it with a mere saddlebag support. Generally when I need panniers, I'm taking one of my daughters in the trailer, which means I don't need the panniers anyway. thanks for the response. Dave On Feb 8, 4:56 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Dave: Here's a site with a lot of variety: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/ If you happen to find an Atlantis build that was done with component weight in mind, please post as it would be an interesting variation. The Atlantis has always been marketed as a highly versatile, go anywhere, do anything bike, suitable for touring, off roading, you name it. That's why you're not seeing any built up as a go-fast. Big wide tire clearances, cantilever brakes, dripping with rack eyelets even a kick stand plate now, doesn't appeal to someone wanting a light, skinny tired bike. Rivendell certainly always has something available that is more suitable for a go fast but Rivs not going after any the weight conscious crowd. FWIW, my 58 cm Atlantis (standard Riv build components) with no racks, packs, bottles but with Schwalbe Marathon 35 mm tires is around 26 lbs IIRC. But the normal setup includes a Nitto Big rear rack, saddle bag, Marks mini front rack bar tube. That lot tips the scales around 30 lbs without food water. I'd guess my setup is middling to light compared to some of the ones you see with larger tires, baskets, bigger bags, etc. Us Atlanteans just aren't into weight worries - until we've got get the bike on an airplane! dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave C Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:26 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike? Anyone have pictures of Atlantis frames built up as road bikes with skinny tires, lightweight components, etc.? The only ones I see on the web are generally built up for touring use or roads and fire trails. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Today's Film Feature
The sign at 0:58 said Davis, so I'm assuming Davis, CA. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQnQii6Po0 Riv content: Riding a lugged steel bike (Pashley Guv'nor), wearing wool, sitting on a Brooks saddle. --Eric Nice little clip. Where? Temperature? What is all that green stuff off to the side of the road? The field looks to be either a beginning graveyard or beginning vineyard. What camera? And finally, where did you get those very nice bar mount bottle holders? We started off with a very nice, warm morning -- 55F at about 10 am -- but it turned very windy, dusty (no green stuff to keep it down) and the temp dropped by 10 or 15 degrees by noon. -- having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glorius and drop bars
Hey Dave, I've been wondering the same, and was glad to see this pic of the Betty Foy http://tinyurl.com/cxpuhx (last picture at the bottom shows drop bars mated with dirt drop stem) -Jay On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, Dave C david.charles.carr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife is strongly considering swapping the Albatross bars on the Glorius for some drop bars. She wants to have the lower drop position for fast descents and off-road control. Yet after scouring the web and the Flickr site, I have not seen one Glorius or Wilbury with drops. I know why -- part of the bike's appeal overlaps with the appeal of Albatross bars -- but my wife does not need the higher position they provide. She has been satisfied with her Noodle bars on her Romulus. Has anyone outfitted their Rivendell mixte with drops? Any suggestions for stem change? I know that she will either use another Noodle bar, or a flared drop in the randonneur style or Dirt Drop style. I'd love to see pictures if anyone has done this. Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hagiography
Saw the article. Loved it. Hope that god-given talent and lack of 'roids wins out and is the truth. The man beats to his own drum. Thanks for posting. Did my usual rec ride in KC today. 14 miles ... 48 degrees ... February ... doesn't get better! Luke McGlynn there's only two ways to do a thing... the right way and the hard way. john a. mcglynn 1919-1999 r.i.p. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hagiography
I enjoyed the article this morning. I thought, this guys a bob. On Feb 8, 9:48 pm, lukemcg luke...@gmail.com wrote: Saw the article. Loved it. Hope that god-given talent and lack of 'roids wins out and is the truth. The man beats to his own drum. Thanks for posting. Did my usual rec ride in KC today. 14 miles ... 48 degrees ... February ... doesn't get better! Luke McGlynn there's only two ways to do a thing... the right way and the hard way. john a. mcglynn 1919-1999 r.i.p. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
Dave: The link below will get you to photos of the same Atlantis set up for CX racing, touring a pretty wild set-up for winter in Alaska: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28720...@n02/sets/72157609908249398/ Certainly if you pull off racks'n'packs and go for a wheelset with weight in mind, maybe 28 mm tires, it'll definitely be zippier. For travel where I need to keep shipping weight down, I move the mini front rack to the rear as a saddlebag support. On supported tours I can get away without the large rear rack panniers. I don't know how light an Atlantis could be with careful component selection. Don't know but I'm guessing the frame fork are a bit heavier than the French bikes. A sub 25 lb Atlantis would take some thought careful component selection. Weight reduction gets pretty pricey. A decent sized saddlebag or handlebar bag is well over a pound empty. It adds up fast. As always, reducing rotating mass is the quickest way to make the bike feel more lively. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave C Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:36 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike? My Atlantis is built up in the standard component package, and I've added a generator light, Nitto rear rack and Mini front rack, and saddlebag. It weights 30+ pounds with my saddlebag, I'm sure. But I am interested in seeing them built up as road machines after putting some of the 31 mm Avocet Duro Plus skinwall tires on my rims after running the 35 mm Paselas. It felt so much zippier. I'm a light guy (155 #) and some of the component choices I made are a little beefier than I really needed, particularly since I have no time to take it loaded touring. Two little daughters and a high school teaching position has an effect on your time and what you can do, you know :) I was impressed with the low weights of some of the French constructeur bikes highlighted by Jan Heine, and it seems that there are smart ways to keep the functionality of my bike and reduce the weight. For instance, my SKS fenders are warped and the rear is broken, so the replacement fenders will be one of the lighter options out there. I have a heavy Mavic 719 rear rim that I spec'ed for my touring, but I intend on taking one of my lighter rims and using it with the Atlantis. Sometimes I consider removing the Nitto rear rack and replacing it with a mere saddlebag support. Generally when I need panniers, I'm taking one of my daughters in the trailer, which means I don't need the panniers anyway. thanks for the response. Dave On Feb 8, 4:56 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Dave: Here's a site with a lot of variety: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/ If you happen to find an Atlantis build that was done with component weight in mind, please post as it would be an interesting variation. The Atlantis has always been marketed as a highly versatile, go anywhere, do anything bike, suitable for touring, off roading, you name it. That's why you're not seeing any built up as a go-fast. Big wide tire clearances, cantilever brakes, dripping with rack eyelets even a kick stand plate now, doesn't appeal to someone wanting a light, skinny tired bike. Rivendell certainly always has something available that is more suitable for a go fast but Rivs not going after any the weight conscious crowd. FWIW, my 58 cm Atlantis (standard Riv build components) with no racks, packs, bottles but with Schwalbe Marathon 35 mm tires is around 26 lbs IIRC. But the normal setup includes a Nitto Big rear rack, saddle bag, Marks mini front rack bar tube. That lot tips the scales around 30 lbs without food water. I'd guess my setup is middling to light compared to some of the ones you see with larger tires, baskets, bigger bags, etc. Us Atlanteans just aren't into weight worries - until we've got get the bike on an airplane! dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave C Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:26 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike? Anyone have pictures of Atlantis frames built up as road bikes with skinny tires, lightweight components, etc.? The only ones I see on the web are generally built up for touring use or roads and fire trails. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
