[RBW] Re: No Boo Boo
Size and fit is the same as the butternut MUSAs. From: carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:17:42 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: No Boo Boo Since there was no mention of size/fit relative to the butternut MUSAs, I assume they are sized about the same. Any observations to the contrary before I order a pair? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
Those are great prices for any of those destinations, but EXTREMELY GOOD to NZ. What carrier were the Euro destinations on? DE On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks. I just booked a 22 day chunk of time for late November/December via Qantas Air. Round trip from SFO is $549. I'm not sure what the deal is with flights right now, but I saw roundtrip to Paris, Germany, Ireland, etc. from California for around $450, which seems mighty cheap, relatively speaking. Now, time to figure out what to do with that 22 days. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Also get hold of Antoine at: http://ibikenz.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.netwrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Check out the New Zealand section of http://www.crazyguyonabike.com -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
Try contacting Jude Kirstein here: http://tinyurl.com/lwx75y She went to NZ last year, but I think she took a trailer. Anyway, she could give you some current information about touring there. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jun 9, 6:17 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Thanks, Gino Chico, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
I've simply been using Kayak.com, which is sort of a meta-search for a lot of different discount travel services. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:27 AM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those are great prices for any of those destinations, but EXTREMELY GOOD to NZ. What carrier were the Euro destinations on? DE On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks. I just booked a 22 day chunk of time for late November/December via Qantas Air. Round trip from SFO is $549. I'm not sure what the deal is with flights right now, but I saw roundtrip to Paris, Germany, Ireland, etc. from California for around $450, which seems mighty cheap, relatively speaking. Now, time to figure out what to do with that 22 days. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Also get hold of Antoine at: http://ibikenz.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Check out the New Zealand section of http://www.crazyguyonabike.com -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
John Pamela Blayley, avid cyclist, lived in NZ for three years and have written about it extensively on their web site http://www.blayleys.com/diary/index.htm Their pretty friendly people and unless their off touring would probably respond to any questions you sent them. Michael On Jun 9, 9:17 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Thanks, Gino Chico, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27
Those Southern Californians are having all the fun. Anyone from the SF Peninsula area interested in a sub 24? The campground at the top of Page Mill Road would be one possible destination, or the open space up above Saratoga, or ?? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Doug Petersondougpn...@cox.net wrote: The southern California Rivendell group is planning a S24O on Saturday, June 27, at Crystal Cove SP, between Newport and Laguna, in Orange County. Park info here: -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27
The southern California Rivendell group is planning a S24O on Saturday, June 27, at Crystal Cove SP, between Newport and Laguna, in Orange County. Park info here: http://www.crystalcovestatepark.com/about.htm Camping reservations thru Reserve America: http://www.reserveamerica.com/campgroundSearch.do Pertinent info: We're planning on the Lower Moro Campground. This is located about 3-1/2 miles inland from PCH and several hundred feet of elevation gain. Access is via dirt road in fair condition. Campsite is primitive, i.e., no water pit toilet. Anything you want to eat, drink or use must be packed in out. Cost per campsite is $15 per night, up to 4 people per site. Reserve America has a $7.50 fee for reservations, which are not req'd. As of 6/8, all spots were open for 6/27. For discussion developments as they occur. http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/ dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
The deal is that both loads and yields are way down for all airlines, so they're just trying to get as many butts into the seats as they can. What is QF's bicycle policy like? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Gino Zahndginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks. I just booked a 22 day chunk of time for late November/December via Qantas Air. Round trip from SFO is $549. I'm not sure what the deal is with flights right now, but I saw roundtrip to Paris, Germany, Ireland, etc. from California for around $450, which seems mighty cheap, relatively speaking. Now, time to figure out what to do with that 22 days. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Also get hold of Antoine at: http://ibikenz.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Check out the New Zealand section of http://www.crazyguyonabike.com -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight?
hope you all get something together up there! On Jun 10, 11:13 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Those Southern Californians are having all the fun. Anyone from the SF Peninsula area interested in a sub 24? The campground at the top of Page Mill Road would be one possible destination, or the open space up above Saratoga, or ?? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Doug Petersondougpn...@cox.net wrote: The southern California Rivendell group is planning a S24O on Saturday, June 27, at Crystal Cove SP, between Newport and Laguna, in Orange County. Park info here: -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27
I'm looking forward to it! On Jun 10, 10:52 am, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: The southern California Rivendell group is planning a S24O on Saturday, June 27, at Crystal Cove SP, between Newport and Laguna, in Orange County. Park info here: http://www.crystalcovestatepark.com/about.htm Camping reservations thru Reserve America: http://www.reserveamerica.com/campgroundSearch.do Pertinent info: We're planning on the Lower Moro Campground. This is located about 3-1/2 miles inland from PCH and several hundred feet of elevation gain. Access is via dirt road in fair condition. Campsite is primitive, i.e., no water pit toilet. Anything you want to eat, drink or use must be packed in out. Cost per campsite is $15 per night, up to 4 people per site. Reserve America has a $7.50 fee for reservations, which are not req'd. As of 6/8, all spots were open for 6/27. For discussion developments as they occur. http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Funny question this morning?
Unlurk. I still have three of those hoses in one of my parts drawers. I opened up an old toolkit (from UK days) and there they were! Relurk. On Jun 9, 8:09 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Those are the people who would be mystified by the third pedal on the floor of the car! I remember those pump hoses - lost one using the wrong end of the pump to swat a dog. Oh, and those frames needed 2 pump pegs. dougP -Original Message- From: internet-bob-boun...@bikelist.org [mailto:internet-bob-boun...@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of John Laidlaw Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:59 PM To: David Estes Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com; internet-...@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [BOB] [RBW] Funny question this morning? It all goes to show just how much the cutting edge of technology has changed since some of us started riding. In my youth (and I claim to be only just out of it) a frame-mounted pump was the height of fashion, just the coolest thing. As I recall the hoses those things were blest with had a distressing tendency to crack and leak, making them almost useless, in reality - at least for this normally careless youth! What would those guys do with a car that you could (or had to) crank by hand? John Laidlaw - who HAS cranked cars, and has the broken wrist to prove it - Victoria, BC On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Man, riding on a Bombadil would have really freaked him out! On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I thought I'd share a comical moment from my morning commute: I was riding alongside another commuter (he on a Specialized Roubaix Carbon bike, me on my Riv) when he looked my bike over and asked what that extra tube was for. What extra tube? I asked. The one under the top tube. he replied. It took me a few seconds to figure out that he was referrring to my frame pump. Wow! Have a great Monday, Joe -- Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that's right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ___ Internet-bob mailing list internet-...@bikelist.org search and browse the archives:http://search.bikelist.org unsubscribe: http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob ___ Internet-bob mailing list internet-...@bikelist.org search and browse the archives:http://search.bikelist.org unsubscribe:http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
Thanks! On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I've simply been using Kayak.com, which is sort of a meta-search for a lot of different discount travel services. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:27 AM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those are great prices for any of those destinations, but EXTREMELY GOOD to NZ. What carrier were the Euro destinations on? DE On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks. I just booked a 22 day chunk of time for late November/December via Qantas Air. Round trip from SFO is $549. I'm not sure what the deal is with flights right now, but I saw roundtrip to Paris, Germany, Ireland, etc. from California for around $450, which seems mighty cheap, relatively speaking. Now, time to figure out what to do with that 22 days. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Also get hold of Antoine at: http://ibikenz.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Check out the New Zealand section of http://www.crazyguyonabike.com -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Chainline Question
Garth I haven't measured the chainline, but I can give you some info on what has worked so far with my Bombadil. I used the XD with 46/36/26 with a 113 Phil centered. It worked flawlessly. I could have gone with a narrower bb, but I can't see why that would be an advantage. With the 113, there was good clearance and no shifting issues. I'm now using this set-up on my Atlantis and it works great with a 12-27 rear cassette for unloaded mountain rides. In an effort to get some lower gearing on the Bombadil, I took a TA Carmina triple that had originally been on my Atlantis (worked great) and put it on the Bomb. This crank was set up with 46/34/22 and TA rings. This arrangement also shifted wonderfully. In the process, however, I noticed that the 34 ring was well worn, so I got a replacement (Raceface). This 34t ring had slightly longer teeth and it rubbed on the chainstay!! I stuck a 119 Phil BB (centered) and it works great with good clearance and problem free shifting. I'll be riding this arrangement on a 1800 mile tour of the Pacific coast this summer. In my opinion, the Bombadil would be just fine with the XD crank, a 113 bb and a 46/36 or 34/ and 24 XD - cheap and effective. It is a MTB though and, unfortunately, there seems to be too much BB drop to run a 44 or 42/32/22 for standard mtb gearing. The front derailleur won't clear the chainstays. I find this to be an irritating aspect of Riv bikes and especially so with the Bombadil. With big tires, it would be nice to run the smaller rings for offroad riding and touring with a standard MTB derailleur instead of the Campy Mirage that RBW now uses to address the issues caused by the BB drop and bowed stays. I can live with the gearing as is, but it would be nice not to have to run an expensive crank on the bike just to get the 22t small ring. DC On Jun 9, 3:15 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it doesn't need to be an XD crank, as what I'd like to know is what people are using for a chainline on their Bombadil, Atlantis or even Sam frames. I asked about the XD because it's popular, and being a wider crank it may need to use the wider chainline.. I'm trying to get an idea of what I'm going to need,as I have no experience in triples for a frame with such bowed stays. My '83 Stumpjumper used a road chainline of 45mm, and the stays were parallel out of the BB, so ring clearance was never a problem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---