[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread Angus

I'm basically with Tim on this one.


More information would help but...If you can't feel it and it the
sidewalls are still straight (probably meaning you can't feel it
when braking either) then I would let it be.  My Rambouillet has a
rear rim ding (or two) that I don't worry about.

I've have straightened bent rims before, but a vertical rim bend can
be a pain to fix.

Angus

On Oct 8, 8:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
 bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
 and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
 it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
 the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
 anything, but the hop is visible.

 I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
 the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
 this have over time?

 Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Strapping a Sackville SaddleSack Med or Large to a rack

2009-10-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean

One REI 18 sport wrap does the job very well. Using two achieves that
ultimate stability goal: the nearly buried boulder (do I have to
footnote a snippet from the RBW site? pay royalties? hope not, but
that phrase is too good not to use... thanks, GP).

This sport wrap is a style of hook-and-loop cinch strap that tightens
down easily. Run the wrap through an *inner* set of slots on the
SaddleSack's bottom leather panel unless your rack is super/abnormally
wide. This has the added benefit of producing very little wear on the
bag, as the relatively weak leather isthmus one might use for zip-
tying is not stressed. Not saying that that little leather bridge is
insufficiently strong; I've used it for months and it seems I could
for years. Just saying that the larger span is stronger.

I expect that each sport wrap will last months but not years. They're
not too expensive.

If only RBW would cause to exist and then sell a leather or cotton-web
version (with hook-loop wold be fine) that would last as long as the
bag. ;)
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread Bruce
Then there is the Scottish technique, as demonstrated by Danny MacAskill at 
the 42 second mark of this viral Youtube video.  I guess He saw Grant's bar 
tape shellac demo and tried to go one better


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o




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Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 4:44:55 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel


I'm basically with Tim on this one.


More information would help but...If you can't feel it and it the
sidewalls are still straight (probably meaning you can't feel it
when braking either) then I would let it be.  My Rambouillet has a
rear rim ding (or two) that I don't worry about.

I've have straightened bent rims before, but a vertical rim bend can
be a pain to fix.

Angus


  
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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

You've never seen a lugged crown fork?Are you new to bicycling?

On Sep 30, 9:17 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rene

 I'm not sure what you are asking.
 I have never seen a fork with a lug.

 I am referring to the head lugs.
 The top one has points that curve around to the front
 and a window in the point.
 The bottom lug has neither.

 Jay

 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

   Hi Jay,

  Are you referring to the lugs used on the fork or on the head tube?

  Rene

  *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
  rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Hartman
  *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:24 PM
  *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  *Subject:* [RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

  I never really gave these frames a close look before.
  The colors are fine, but why the different lugs?
  If you are going to go through all the trouble involved
  with having a lugged frame made in Taiwan, the least
  you could do is specify lugs that match.

  Jay Hartman

  On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles 
  renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:

  We thought it might be fun to fan the flames a little bit, so we took
  some side-by-side photos:

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7gallery=21

  Obviously the Green is a popular, judging by how quickly Rivendell
  sold out of a few sizes.  But lately, our customers are after the
  Orange.

  My vote is for the Green, but then again it is much closer to my
  personal color palette my wife calls Earth Monotone.

  Cheers,

  Bryan

  [Disclaimer:  As always, we try to be true to the actual color of the
  frame, but between studio lighting, digital camera, iPhotoshop-ing,
  and monitor calibration, your mileage may vary.]
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread JGS

There is a slight up and down movement in the rim, but not so much
that it ever interferes with braking.  There is a ding in the rim at
one point which is where the hop occurs.  The rim is fairly true side
to side, but maybe not perfect.  I don't see any cracking, but I
haven't removed the rim tape.  I feel like there is some intermittent
grabbing when I brake hard but other than that, I don't feel the hop
when I'm riding.  I'm pretty light, like under 150, though I'm usually
carrying 15 lbs of stuff with me, so I'm well well under the Atlantis'
carrying abilities.  I ride the bike mostly as a commuter in NYC so
other that the wheel totally collapsing on me and causing me to slide
under a truck, I'm not that worried about a failure.  I won't be in
the middle of a middle of a mountain pass on a tour.  Also,  I get
pretty extreme hits to my bike all the time.  I think NYC riding is
one of the harshest on a bike.  There are a constantly serious
obstacles that sometimes can't be avoided.  Sooner or later you are
bound to see that metal grating too late and hit its 4 inch lip at
full speed or barely hop your front wheel over some caved in asphalt
and take a major hit on your back wheel.  That means though i take
extremely good care of it, I really can't be precious about the bike.
Thanks for the advice!

On Oct 8, 10:15 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote:
 Hmm . . . one of those things that's really easier to diagnose in
 person . . .

 How 'bout a little more info? Is there an up and down movement at the
 rim, or is it just the tire? How much movement are we talking about?
 Can you feel it when you ride? Is the rim true side to side? Check out
 the areas around the spoke holes. Are there any cracks? Take the tire
 off and remove the rim strip. Is there any obvious cracking inside?

 Ordinarily, serious damage to a rim is caused by a solid hit - usually
 not I got a ding in the rear wheel somehow kind of stuff. Did you
 hit something hard? I have seen rims fail due to worn sidewalls and
 even defects - with these the braking often gets funky as a first
 sign. Do you get any intermittent regular grabbing when you apply the
 brakes?

 In addition to the above info, I'd need to know a little more about
 you and how you ride before I could give you any advice. Are you
 heavy? Is this a touring bike headed for Mongolia or do you just ride
 around town?, etc.

 Standing by . . .

 DC

 On Oct 8, 6:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:



  Hi all,

  My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
  bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
  and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
  it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
  the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
  anything, but the hop is visible.

  I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
  the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
  this have over time?

  Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

A buddy of mine owns a BMX shop in Cambridge, MA.By the time a
customer's BMX rim is at the end of it's rope, it usually looks like
it's been through a war on account of all the dents.But they can
still be trued.   Maybe not trued perfectly, but enough to make any
hops almost imperceptible.   The technique is basically this:  where
there is a hop (outward protrusion on the rim), the spokes need to be
tightened slightly.To compensate for the added tension in that
area, the spokes on the opposite side of the rim may need to be
loosened (relaxed) slightly.It's an iterative adjustment-   so you
start with say, one quarter of a turn with the spoke wrench, and re-
check, and repeat  It's a little bit more complicated than that,
but not much.

On Oct 9, 8:48 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 There is a slight up and down movement in the rim, but not so much
 that it ever interferes with braking.  There is a ding in the rim at
 one point which is where the hop occurs.  The rim is fairly true side
 to side, but maybe not perfect.  I don't see any cracking, but I
 haven't removed the rim tape.  I feel like there is some intermittent
 grabbing when I brake hard but other than that, I don't feel the hop
 when I'm riding.  I'm pretty light, like under 150, though I'm usually
 carrying 15 lbs of stuff with me, so I'm well well under the Atlantis'
 carrying abilities.  I ride the bike mostly as a commuter in NYC so
 other that the wheel totally collapsing on me and causing me to slide
 under a truck, I'm not that worried about a failure.  I won't be in
 the middle of a middle of a mountain pass on a tour.  Also,  I get
 pretty extreme hits to my bike all the time.  I think NYC riding is
 one of the harshest on a bike.  There are a constantly serious
 obstacles that sometimes can't be avoided.  Sooner or later you are
 bound to see that metal grating too late and hit its 4 inch lip at
 full speed or barely hop your front wheel over some caved in asphalt
 and take a major hit on your back wheel.  That means though i take
 extremely good care of it, I really can't be precious about the bike.
 Thanks for the advice!

 On Oct 8, 10:15 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote:

  Hmm . . . one of those things that's really easier to diagnose in
  person . . .

  How 'bout a little more info? Is there an up and down movement at the
  rim, or is it just the tire? How much movement are we talking about?
  Can you feel it when you ride? Is the rim true side to side? Check out
  the areas around the spoke holes. Are there any cracks? Take the tire
  off and remove the rim strip. Is there any obvious cracking inside?

  Ordinarily, serious damage to a rim is caused by a solid hit - usually
  not I got a ding in the rear wheel somehow kind of stuff. Did you
  hit something hard? I have seen rims fail due to worn sidewalls and
  even defects - with these the braking often gets funky as a first
  sign. Do you get any intermittent regular grabbing when you apply the
  brakes?

  In addition to the above info, I'd need to know a little more about
  you and how you ride before I could give you any advice. Are you
  heavy? Is this a touring bike headed for Mongolia or do you just ride
  around town?, etc.

  Standing by . . .

  DC

  On Oct 8, 6:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

   Hi all,

   My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
   bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
   and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
   it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
   the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
   anything, but the hop is visible.

   I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
   the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
   this have over time?

   Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Re: Albatross hunting!

2009-10-09 Thread Garth

Devin,

  Try emailing Spencer at Riv .. They may have a pair to spare.
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

A buddy of mine owns a BMX shop in Cambridge, MA.By the time a
customer's BMX rim is at the end of its rope, it usually looks like
it's been through a war on account of all the dents.But up to that
point ,
they can still be trued.   Maybe not trued perfectly, but enough to
make any
hops almost imperceptible.

The technique is basically this:  where there is a hop (outward
protrusion on the rim), the spokes need to be
tightened slightly.To compensate for the added tension in that
area, the spokes on the opposite side of the rim may need to be
loosened (relaxed) slightly.It's an iterative adjustment-   so you
start with say, one quarter of a turn with the spoke wrench, and re-
check, and repeat  It's a little bit more complicated than that,
but not much.

On Oct 9, 8:48 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 There is a slight up and down movement in the rim, but not so much
 that it ever interferes with braking.  There is a ding in the rim at
 one point which is where the hop occurs.  The rim is fairly true side
 to side, but maybe not perfect.  I don't see any cracking, but I
 haven't removed the rim tape.  I feel like there is some intermittent
 grabbing when I brake hard but other than that, I don't feel the hop
 when I'm riding.  I'm pretty light, like under 150, though I'm usually
 carrying 15 lbs of stuff with me, so I'm well well under the Atlantis'
 carrying abilities.  I ride the bike mostly as a commuter in NYC so
 other that the wheel totally collapsing on me and causing me to slide
 under a truck, I'm not that worried about a failure.  I won't be in
 the middle of a middle of a mountain pass on a tour.  Also,  I get
 pretty extreme hits to my bike all the time.  I think NYC riding is
 one of the harshest on a bike.  There are a constantly serious
 obstacles that sometimes can't be avoided.  Sooner or later you are
 bound to see that metal grating too late and hit its 4 inch lip at
 full speed or barely hop your front wheel over some caved in asphalt
 and take a major hit on your back wheel.  That means though i take
 extremely good care of it, I really can't be precious about the bike.
 Thanks for the advice!

 On Oct 8, 10:15 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote:

  Hmm . . . one of those things that's really easier to diagnose in
  person . . .

  How 'bout a little more info? Is there an up and down movement at the
  rim, or is it just the tire? How much movement are we talking about?
  Can you feel it when you ride? Is the rim true side to side? Check out
  the areas around the spoke holes. Are there any cracks? Take the tire
  off and remove the rim strip. Is there any obvious cracking inside?

  Ordinarily, serious damage to a rim is caused by a solid hit - usually
  not I got a ding in the rear wheel somehow kind of stuff. Did you
  hit something hard? I have seen rims fail due to worn sidewalls and
  even defects - with these the braking often gets funky as a first
  sign. Do you get any intermittent regular grabbing when you apply the
  brakes?

  In addition to the above info, I'd need to know a little more about
  you and how you ride before I could give you any advice. Are you
  heavy? Is this a touring bike headed for Mongolia or do you just ride
  around town?, etc.

  Standing by . . .

  DC

  On Oct 8, 6:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

   Hi all,

   My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
   bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
   and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
   it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
   the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
   anything, but the hop is visible.

   I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
   the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
   this have over time?

   Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

A buddy of mine owns a BMX shop in Cambridge, MA.By the time a
customer's BMX rim is at the end of its rope, it usually looks like
it's been through a war on account of all the dents.But until
then, they can still be trued.   Maybe not trued perfectly, but enough
to make any hops almost imperceptible.

The technique is basically this:  where there is a hop (outward
protrusion on the rim), the spokes need to be tightened slightly.
To compensate for the added tension in that area, the spokes on the
opposite side of the rim may need to be loosened (relaxed)
slightly.It's an iterative adjustment-   so you start with say,
one quarter of a turn with the spoke wrench, and re-check, and
repeat  It's a little bit more complicated than that, but not
much.



On Oct 8, 9:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
 bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
 and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
 it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
 the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
 anything, but the hop is visible.

 I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
 the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
 this have over time?

 Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Re: Strapping a Sackville SaddleSack Med or Large to a rack

2009-10-09 Thread Forrest

This is a solution I was looking for, so thanks very much!  -- Forrest
(Iowa City)

On Oct 9, 7:10 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
 One REI 18 sport wrap does the job very well. Using two achieves that
 ultimate stability goal: the nearly buried boulder (do I have to
 footnote a snippet from the RBW site? pay royalties? hope not, but
 that phrase is too good not to use... thanks, GP).

 This sport wrap is a style of hook-and-loop cinch strap that tightens
 down easily. Run the wrap through an *inner* set of slots on the
 SaddleSack's bottom leather panel unless your rack is super/abnormally
 wide. This has the added benefit of producing very little wear on the
 bag, as the relatively weak leather isthmus one might use for zip-
 tying is not stressed. Not saying that that little leather bridge is
 insufficiently strong; I've used it for months and it seems I could
 for years. Just saying that the larger span is stronger.

 I expect that each sport wrap will last months but not years. They're
 not too expensive.

 If only RBW would cause to exist and then sell a leather or cotton-web
 version (with hook-loop wold be fine) that would last as long as the
 bag. ;)
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[RBW] Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Mojo

Here is an update on this situation. For two weeks, this individual
did not respond when I sent him direct emails, but he did respond
yestereday when I wrote to him through his original message sent to
this group. Both correspondence show the same email-address for him,
but perhaps he can't receive my email responses...? Of course he could
and did respond to my direct emails prior to two weeks ago.

Anyway he said he has never lost anything in the mail, but apparently
he has this time. And how does he know I haven't received the item and
am just trying to scam him? Also he offered to return my item.

I have no way to verify any of this, as he has no way to verify my
statements. It is possible that he sent his item non-Priority and it
is still ambling its way to me. (I sent a crank to an RBW member in
neighboring state Nebraska that took nearly 3 weeks to arrive.) I
prefer to trust he has done as he says and that there is some problem
with the mail. If anything changes, I will post it here.

But also if this individual is selling something on this or other chat
groups I visit, I will explain my exchange experience with the rest of
the group.

Thank you and to our list administrator, Jim, for your support
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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

Hey, I didn't make up the term lugged crown fork or anything;   I've
just seen/heard it so many times, can't remember not knowing what it
was.   I can't imagine I'm the only one-   in fact I know I'm not,
considering the original poster toward whom your laconic reply was
directed.


On Oct 9, 10:17 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:05 -0400, Jason Hartman wrote:

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike
  matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

          You've never seen a lugged crown fork?    Are you new to
          bicycling?

  If you look here:

 http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html

 I looked there and round his Custom Series Fork 
 Crownhttp://www.henryjames.com/gifolder/crown.gif

 It's called a crown, not a lug.



  and here:

 http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns..htm

 Yes, there's an entire page of them.  

  you will not find a lugged crown or lugged fork or even a lugged fork
  crown.

 Semantic difficulties, I'm afraid.  Every single one of those fork
 crowns could be construed as a lugged fork.  The alternative to a
 crown is a unicrown design that is nothing more than two fork blades
 with bent ends that attach directly to the steerer, eliminating a
 separate crown.
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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread Bruce


Not sure if we're straining at gnats here, but the 1st link below (Henry James) 
does indeed have a picture of a lugged fork crown (as opposed to a welded or 
uni style crown) about 1/2 way down the page. I have a Richard Sachs lugged 
fork crown so I know he makes them too, and so on. 

Did you mean something else Jason? 



From: Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 9:05:42 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne




On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:


You've never seen a lugged crown fork?Are you new to bicycling?


If you look here:

http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html


  
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

I am very glad things seem to be working out now.   I think you've
handled the situation in a very sapient and admirable manner.

On Oct 9, 10:12 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Here is an update on this situation. For two weeks, this individual
 did not respond when I sent him direct emails, but he did respond
 yestereday when I wrote to him through his original message sent to
 this group. Both correspondence show the same email-address for him,
 but perhaps he can't receive my email responses...? Of course he could
 and did respond to my direct emails prior to two weeks ago.

 Anyway he said he has never lost anything in the mail, but apparently
 he has this time. And how does he know I haven't received the item and
 am just trying to scam him? Also he offered to return my item.

 I have no way to verify any of this, as he has no way to verify my
 statements. It is possible that he sent his item non-Priority and it
 is still ambling its way to me. (I sent a crank to an RBW member in
 neighboring state Nebraska that took nearly 3 weeks to arrive.) I
 prefer to trust he has done as he says and that there is some problem
 with the mail. If anything changes, I will post it here.

 But also if this individual is selling something on this or other chat
 groups I visit, I will explain my exchange experience with the rest of
 the group.

 Thank you and to our list administrator, Jim, for your support
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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread Jason Hartman
Like Steve Palincsar said, it comes down to semantics.
This whole thread has come across a lot snarkier than I have meant it to,
but certain things just make me cringe.
Like when people write breaks when they mean brakes.
Or peddle when they mean pedal.
Or Peterson when they mean Petersen.

This article made me laugh at myself

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/magazine/04FOB-onlanguage-t.html

Jay




On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hey, I didn't make up the term lugged crown fork or anything;   I've
 just seen/heard it so many times, can't remember not knowing what it
 was.


 On Oct 9, 10:17 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:05 -0400, Jason Hartman wrote:
 
   On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike
   matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   You've never seen a lugged crown fork?Are you new to
   bicycling?
 
   If you look here:
 
  http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html
 
  I looked there and round his Custom Series Fork Crown
 http://www.henryjames.com/gifolder/crown.gif
 
  It's called a crown, not a lug.
 
 
 
   and here:
 
  http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns..htm
 
  Yes, there's an entire page of them.
 
   you will not find a lugged crown or lugged fork or even a lugged fork
   crown.
 
  Semantic difficulties, I'm afraid.  Every single one of those fork
  crowns could be construed as a lugged fork.  The alternative to a
  crown is a unicrown design that is nothing more than two fork blades
  with bent ends that attach directly to the steerer, eliminating a
  separate crown.
 


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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Although I am all for outing scoundrels, I know that things do very
occasionally get lost in the mail, AND that emails sometimes get dumped into
spam boxes. It is rare but still possible that this happened to your
respondent.
I personally try to keep my transaction wits about me, but I remember once
wholly and in all innocence forgetting a transaction where I had received
money but simply forgot to mail the purchased item. After an angry inquiry,
I made good by returning the money and shipping the item for free.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Here is an update on this situation. For two weeks, this individual
 did not respond when I sent him direct emails, but he did respond
 yestereday when I wrote to him through his original message sent to
 this group. Both correspondence show the same email-address for him,
 but perhaps he can't receive my email responses...? Of course he could
 and did respond to my direct emails prior to two weeks ago.

 Anyway he said he has never lost anything in the mail, but apparently
 he has this time. And how does he know I haven't received the item and
 am just trying to scam him? Also he offered to return my item.

 I have no way to verify any of this, as he has no way to verify my
 statements. It is possible that he sent his item non-Priority and it
 is still ambling its way to me. (I sent a crank to an RBW member in
 neighboring state Nebraska that took nearly 3 weeks to arrive.) I
 prefer to trust he has done as he says and that there is some problem
 with the mail. If anything changes, I will post it here.

 But also if this individual is selling something on this or other chat
 groups I visit, I will explain my exchange experience with the rest of
 the group.

 Thank you and to our list administrator, Jim, for your support
 



-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

Great article!

An interesting aside:   many modern 'misused' words are actually more
in-line with the 'correct' word's etymology/meaning than an irritated
grammar guardian would probably be willing to concede:

Regarding your example of 'break' for 'brake':

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=brake








On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Like Steve Palincsar said, it comes down to semantics.
 This whole thread has come across a lot snarkier than I have meant it to,
 but certain things just make me cringe.
 Like when people write breaks when they mean brakes.
 Or peddle when they mean pedal.
 Or Peterson when they mean Petersen.

 This article made me laugh at myself

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/magazine/04FOB-onlanguage-t.html

 Jay

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, newenglandbike 
 matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:



  Hey, I didn't make up the term lugged crown fork or anything;   I've
  just seen/heard it so many times, can't remember not knowing what it
  was.

  On Oct 9, 10:17 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
   On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:05 -0400, Jason Hartman wrote:

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike
matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

        You've never seen a lugged crown fork?    Are you new to
        bicycling?

If you look here:

   http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html

   I looked there and round his Custom Series Fork Crown
 http://www.henryjames.com/gifolder/crown.gif

   It's called a crown, not a lug.

and here:

   http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns..htm

   Yes, there's an entire page of them.

you will not find a lugged crown or lugged fork or even a lugged fork
crown.

   Semantic difficulties, I'm afraid.  Every single one of those fork
   crowns could be construed as a lugged fork.  The alternative to a
   crown is a unicrown design that is nothing more than two fork blades
   with bent ends that attach directly to the steerer, eliminating a
   separate crown.
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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread newenglandbike

Great article!

An interesting aside:   many modern 'misused' words are actually more
in-line with the 'correct' word's etymology/meaning than an irritated
grammar guardian would probably be willing to concede:

Regarding your example of 'break' for 'brake':

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=brake

On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Like Steve Palincsar said, it comes down to semantics.
 This whole thread has come across a lot snarkier than I have meant it to,
 but certain things just make me cringe.
 Like when people write breaks when they mean brakes.
 Or peddle when they mean pedal.
 Or Peterson when they mean Petersen.

 This article made me laugh at myself

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/magazine/04FOB-onlanguage-t.html

 Jay

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, newenglandbike 
 matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:



  Hey, I didn't make up the term lugged crown fork or anything;   I've
  just seen/heard it so many times, can't remember not knowing what it
  was.

  On Oct 9, 10:17 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
   On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:05 -0400, Jason Hartman wrote:

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike
matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

        You've never seen a lugged crown fork?    Are you new to
        bicycling?

If you look here:

   http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html

   I looked there and round his Custom Series Fork Crown
 http://www.henryjames.com/gifolder/crown.gif

   It's called a crown, not a lug.

and here:

   http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns..htm

   Yes, there's an entire page of them.

you will not find a lugged crown or lugged fork or even a lugged fork
crown.

   Semantic difficulties, I'm afraid.  Every single one of those fork
   crowns could be construed as a lugged fork.  The alternative to a
   crown is a unicrown design that is nothing more than two fork blades
   with bent ends that attach directly to the steerer, eliminating a
   separate crown.
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[RBW] Re: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread clevewheel

David-

I  purchased delivery confirmation with your priority package.  The
tag is at home and I can send you the number later today.  No worries
here! :-)

Kathryn Hall
Eugene, OR

On Oct 8, 3:11 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find it ironic that as I was reading and responding to this thread, I was
 in the process of purchasing a somewhat pricey item from a fellow list
 member.

 I think 90% of the people in the world are good folks.  10% aren't.  I would
 imagine on this list it's closer to 99% good.  Possibly 100% as I hope
 everything works out for Mojo (and now my new purchase!!).

 DE



 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Z xodus48...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I am very sorry for you.  To me, the Rivendell philosophy
  stresses trustworthiness and sincerity.  I can't think another forum though
  which I would send another individual, sight unseen, a large sum, and trust
  him or her send the promised item.  Yet RBW has not disappointed.  (Thanks,
  again, Frank.)  The individual you dealth with apparently disrespects
  himself and bicyclists everywhere, and apparently had no qualms about
  disrespecting this worthy community.

  I hope you get him!

   --
  *From:* William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
  *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Thu, October 8, 2009 2:31:16 PM
  *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

  Seriously, this is a problem.

  On Oct 8, 11:43 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
   Out him to save the rest of us your problem.

   On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

I like this group. I learn alot and like to know there is a community
out there that ride and understand functional bikes beyond the racing
scene. I also have an intentional naive trust of list members. I have
occasionally bought, sold, and traded items, often with items passing
in the mail.

Recently though a list member posted here asking for an exchange.
After some correspondence, he and I agreed. I mailed my item Priority
within a few days. This individual said he mailed his item a few days
later. Now it has been a month, nothing received here, and this
individual is not answering my emails for nearly 2 weeks.

I have his name and address that I would like to post to this group so
that you will know there has been issues before you do business with
him. Is this the proper thing to do?

And unfortunately I will have to modify my naivete here and do
business in a way that I cannot be taken advantage of. This makes me
sad and shrinks my world view just a little.

Your thoughts are appreciated

   --
   Patrick Moore
   Albuquerque, NM
   For professional resumes, contact
   Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

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 wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
 scientist guy
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[RBW] Bike Bell Concert In L.A.

2009-10-09 Thread Big Paulie

http://tinyurl.com/yl7q58c

Wagner's Ring cycle may be vying with Dudamania as the headline
maker of the musical season on Grand Avenue, but please take note that
downtown's main drag of the arts will also be playing host to a horde
of cyclists, ringing.

The musical piece in question is Eine Brise: Transient Action for 111
Cyclists, by the late Argentinian composer Mauricio Kagel, which will
have its L.A. premiere Feb. 22 outdoors on Grand Avenue's pavement.
Kagel's quickie composition, no more than two minutes long, calls for
111 bicycle riders to ring their bells, whistle and emit vocalized
effects in unison, on command.

The performance is part of the just-announced 2009-10 season from the
experimental and contemporary music series Monday Evening Concerts.
Along with the biker ensemble, its Celebrating Kagel concert will
offer two pieces played indoors in the series' regular quarters,
Zipper Concert Hall at the Colburn School.

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[RBW] Re: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
100% presuming we are both in the 99th percentile!!! :-)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:26 AM, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote:


 David-

 I  purchased delivery confirmation with your priority package.  The
 tag is at home and I can send you the number later today.  No worries
 here! :-)

 Kathryn Hall
 Eugene, OR

 On Oct 8, 3:11 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  I find it ironic that as I was reading and responding to this thread, I
 was
  in the process of purchasing a somewhat pricey item from a fellow list
  member.
 
  I think 90% of the people in the world are good folks.  10% aren't.  I
 would
  imagine on this list it's closer to 99% good.  Possibly 100% as I hope
  everything works out for Mojo (and now my new purchase!!).
 
  DE
 
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Z xodus48...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I am very sorry for you.  To me, the Rivendell philosophy
   stresses trustworthiness and sincerity.  I can't think another forum
 though
   which I would send another individual, sight unseen, a large sum, and
 trust
   him or her send the promised item.  Yet RBW has not disappointed.
  (Thanks,
   again, Frank.)  The individual you dealth with apparently disrespects
   himself and bicyclists everywhere, and apparently had no qualms about
   disrespecting this worthy community.
 
   I hope you get him!
 
--
   *From:* William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
   *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Thu, October 8, 2009 2:31:16 PM
   *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list
 member?
 
   Seriously, this is a problem.
 
   On Oct 8, 11:43 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Out him to save the rest of us your problem.
 
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I like this group. I learn alot and like to know there is a
 community
 out there that ride and understand functional bikes beyond the
 racing
 scene. I also have an intentional naive trust of list members. I
 have
 occasionally bought, sold, and traded items, often with items
 passing
 in the mail.
 
 Recently though a list member posted here asking for an exchange.
 After some correspondence, he and I agreed. I mailed my item
 Priority
 within a few days. This individual said he mailed his item a few
 days
 later. Now it has been a month, nothing received here, and this
 individual is not answering my emails for nearly 2 weeks.
 
 I have his name and address that I would like to post to this group
 so
 that you will know there has been issues before you do business
 with
 him. Is this the proper thing to do?
 
 And unfortunately I will have to modify my naivete here and do
 business in a way that I cannot be taken advantage of. This makes
 me
 sad and shrinks my world view just a little.
 
 Your thoughts are appreciated
 
--
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
 
  --
  Cheers,
  David
  Redlands, CA
 
  Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
  wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
  scientist guy
 



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Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
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[RBW] Re: Mechanic's Help Please: Hop in rear wheel

2009-10-09 Thread Dave Craig

Given the additional info, I'll agree with Tim and Angus. I've ridden
rims like this commuting for years. Functionally, there doesn't seem
to be a reason to change the rim and there's probably no reason to
deal with radially truing it, especially since you ride in NYC where I
know you'll inevitably hit something again. Keep it as true as
possible laterally and wait 'til the rim is toast, either through wear
or another big hit.

I'm a cautious cat when giving advice sight unseen - and I had a rim
fail this summer on tour. Because I didn't take the time to inspect it
more thoroughly when I first detected a problem, the rim suddenly
became unusable a long ways from a bike shop. If I had taken the time
to remove the tire and rim tape, I would have seen a crack developing
in the interior of the rim that eventually led to the rim failure. By
the way, I'm using failure in the materials sense. This was not a
catastrophic failure. I was able to slowly ride the bike to a shop,
but without the benefit of my rear brake.

Dave

On Oct 9, 5:48 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 There is a slight up and down movement in the rim, but not so much
 that it ever interferes with braking.  There is a ding in the rim at
 one point which is where the hop occurs.  The rim is fairly true side
 to side, but maybe not perfect.  I don't see any cracking, but I
 haven't removed the rim tape.  I feel like there is some intermittent
 grabbing when I brake hard but other than that, I don't feel the hop
 when I'm riding.  I'm pretty light, like under 150, though I'm usually
 carrying 15 lbs of stuff with me, so I'm well well under the Atlantis'
 carrying abilities.  I ride the bike mostly as a commuter in NYC so
 other that the wheel totally collapsing on me and causing me to slide
 under a truck, I'm not that worried about a failure.  I won't be in
 the middle of a middle of a mountain pass on a tour.  Also,  I get
 pretty extreme hits to my bike all the time.  I think NYC riding is
 one of the harshest on a bike.  There are a constantly serious
 obstacles that sometimes can't be avoided.  Sooner or later you are
 bound to see that metal grating too late and hit its 4 inch lip at
 full speed or barely hop your front wheel over some caved in asphalt
 and take a major hit on your back wheel.  That means though i take
 extremely good care of it, I really can't be precious about the bike.
 Thanks for the advice!

 On Oct 8, 10:15 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote:



  Hmm . . . one of those things that's really easier to diagnose in
  person . . .

  How 'bout a little more info? Is there an up and down movement at the
  rim, or is it just the tire? How much movement are we talking about?
  Can you feel it when you ride? Is the rim true side to side? Check out
  the areas around the spoke holes. Are there any cracks? Take the tire
  off and remove the rim strip. Is there any obvious cracking inside?

  Ordinarily, serious damage to a rim is caused by a solid hit - usually
  not I got a ding in the rear wheel somehow kind of stuff. Did you
  hit something hard? I have seen rims fail due to worn sidewalls and
  even defects - with these the braking often gets funky as a first
  sign. Do you get any intermittent regular grabbing when you apply the
  brakes?

  In addition to the above info, I'd need to know a little more about
  you and how you ride before I could give you any advice. Are you
  heavy? Is this a touring bike headed for Mongolia or do you just ride
  around town?, etc.

  Standing by . . .

  DC

  On Oct 8, 6:34 pm, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

   Hi all,

   My Atlantis got a ding in the rear wheel somehow.  When I turn the
   bike upside down and look at the wheel spinning there is a slight up
   and down movement.  I took it to a local mechanic and they said that
   it couldn't be trued out and were sort of noncommittal about whether
   the wheel needs to be replaced.  The brakes don't rub the tire or
   anything, but the hop is visible.

   I'd love to hear the opinions of some of the experience mechanics on
   the list.  Do you think I need to replace the wheel?  What affect will
   this have over time?

   Thanks for the advice!
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[RBW] Re: Albatross hunting!

2009-10-09 Thread Tom Norwood
You could also try FreeRange Cycles or Aaron's Bicycle Repair in Seattle.
Both tend to stock Riv stuff.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 Devin,

  Try emailing Spencer at Riv .. They may have a pair to spare.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread Horace
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:


 Great article!

 An interesting aside:   many modern 'misused' words are actually more
 in-line with the 'correct' word's etymology/meaning than an irritated
 grammar guardian would probably be willing to concede:

 Regarding your example of 'break' for 'brake':

 http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=brake



I like that. But if you're in a peloton and you break, it has a vastly
different meaning than if you brake.

My favorite malapropisms are riding a rode bike and putting up items for
sell.

When I peddled my rode bike, it was for sell. :-)

Horace.

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[RBW] Re: mounting a bottle dynamo on a fork? (with cantilevers)

2009-10-09 Thread RoadieRyan

Eric I notice you are using Schwables with the nice sidewall ribbing
for a dynamo, I have one I am thinking of hooking up to my wife's bike
but her tires are smooth wall.  Anyone have any experience/opinions on
how well the bottle dynamo works with a smooth sidewall versus a
ribbed one?

Thanks

On Oct 8, 7:35 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hhm,

 I think I read it in a description of a dynamo bracket for sale on
 peterwhitecycles.com. Upon re-reading, it seems that it is just a
 statement that that particular mount shouldn't be used on a fork.

 Earl

 On Oct 8, 3:40 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:



  I don't know where you read that bottle dynamos shouldn't be mounted  
  on the fork blades.  That's where they go--my English-made Pashley  
  came with braze-on mounts for a bottle dynamo mount on the lefthand  
  fork leg.  When you mount them on the forks, it's easy to turn it on  
  and off without dismounting.

  --Eric
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  On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Earl Grey wrote:

   Hi,

   I am building up a Sam Hillborne with a sidewall dynamo that I have
   had lying around for years. Was tempted by a dynamo hub, but actually
   won't be using the light very much and wanted to keep the cost down. I
   am planning to use a battery taillight, so I'd like to mount the
   dynamo on the fork to minimize cables. The dynamo came with a two-
   piece metal clamp/mount that clamps around a seatstay or fork, but I
   have read that it shouldn't be used on a fork (even if the dynamo is
   mounted forward of the fork?).

   Do you know of other options? Is there a mount that works with the
   mini-rack brazeons on Rivendells?

   The Zinkens Dynashoe seemed like a good option, but apparently has
   been discontinued.
   Here is a photo:
  http://www.evanscycles.com/products/busch-muller/zinkens-dynashoe-lt-...

   and installed:
  http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/bike-accessories/busch--muller-b...

   Lastly, is it possible to have bottle dynamo on a fork AND a Nitto
   mini front rack at the same time? Looks like the rack stays occupy the
   space where the dynamo would go.

   Thanks much,

   Earl- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Frames with differnt forks

2009-10-09 Thread Phil Brown



On Oct 9, 10:51 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it's a 1 threaded and a 9/8ths threadless.

 I think the headtube is built for a 9/8th threadless and then shimmed
 for the 1threaded.
 I seem to remember reading that before.
 -sv

Nope, the frames are identical.
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[RBW] Re: Frames with differnt forks

2009-10-09 Thread CycloFiend

on 10/9/09 10:20 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:

 
 A quick question. Is the frame used for a threaded fork the same as
 for an unthreaded fork?

Yes.  In this instance, the fork determines what type of headset is needed.

The only difference would be the diameter of the headtube/steerer tube.

- J

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread David Hallerman
Your story is an argument for always shipping using a tracking number.

Offers security for both sender and receiver.

Heck, nowadays USPS Priority Mail is pretty inexpensive, and if you do 
it -- the postage -- online, the confirmation tracking is free (as is a 
discount).

Dave, who likes to send tracking numbers to buyers when he sells parts 
because that kind of communication reduces anxiety

==

Mojo wrote:
 Here is an update on this situation. For two weeks, this individual
 did not respond when I sent him direct emails, but he did respond
 yestereday when I wrote to him through his original message sent to
 this group. Both correspondence show the same email-address for him,
 but perhaps he can't receive my email responses...? Of course he could
 and did respond to my direct emails prior to two weeks ago.

 Anyway he said he has never lost anything in the mail, but apparently
 he has this time. And how does he know I haven't received the item and
 am just trying to scam him? Also he offered to return my item.

 I have no way to verify any of this, as he has no way to verify my
 statements. It is possible that he sent his item non-Priority and it
 is still ambling its way to me. (I sent a crank to an RBW member in
 neighboring state Nebraska that took nearly 3 weeks to arrive.) I
 prefer to trust he has done as he says and that there is some problem
 with the mail. If anything changes, I will post it here.

 But also if this individual is selling something on this or other chat
 groups I visit, I will explain my exchange experience with the rest of
 the group.

 Thank you and to our list administrator, Jim, for your support
 

   

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread CycloFiend

on 10/9/09 11:14 AM, David Hallerman at sunwarrio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your story is an argument for always shipping using a tracking number.
 
 Offers security for both sender and receiver.
 
 Heck, nowadays USPS Priority Mail is pretty inexpensive, and if you do it --
 the postage -- online, the confirmation tracking is free (as is a discount).


Not really to add to this post excessively, but the Priority Mail
Confirmation Number is exactly that - a confirmation that it is delivered.
No real time tracking, etc.

It does not require a signature of the receiver - i.e. there is no condition
for release. 

Insurance on the shipment value is not covered by this service and must be
purchased separately.  If it goes missing with no insureance, there's no
recourse for reimbursal.

- Jim who uses USPS PM a lot and really thinks it's an incredible value

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[RBW] Re: Frames with differnt forks

2009-10-09 Thread tarik saleh

Seth,

The kogswell P/R do the 9/8 threadless or 1 threaded with reducer
cups. Riv is offering 1 threaded or 1 threadless on the rodeo.  The
Kogs P/Rhave headtubes that take 9/8 forks, the riv Rodeo have
headtubes that take 1 forks.

Go read down here on the rodeo page:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618
under read abouit it and comfort with your choice of stem styles

You can use shims to put a 9/8 threadless stem on a 1 threadless
fork. You use reducing headset cups to put 1 forks in 9/8 frames.

Tarik




On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 For a frame that takes a 1 threaded fork, yes the frame could take
 either.   For example, Rivendell's new Roadeo frame can take either a
 1 threaded or 1 unthreaded fork (and I think they'll offer both).


 I think it's a 1 threaded and a 9/8ths threadless.

 I think the headtube is built for a 9/8th threadless and then shimmed
 for the 1threaded.

 I seem to remember reading that before.

 -sv

 




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[RBW] highly customized Brookses

2009-10-09 Thread Bill Connell

Re-sharing a links from the Bicycle Lifestyle list - beautiful work!

http://www.tobeinspired.com/2009/10/interview-with-leather-artisan-kara-ginther/

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[RBW] Re: highly customized Brookses

2009-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
Beautiful!  Wonder if that voids the warranty.

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 Re-sharing a links from the Bicycle Lifestyle list - beautiful work!


 http://www.tobeinspired.com/2009/10/interview-with-leather-artisan-kara-ginther/

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread avillage

Phew...I'm glad you heard from him/her.

Sometimes, I chose to act in a way that encourages trust and confirms
good will. You'll never know if the other party did what they said,
etc. And, I find, in this kind of situation, when I get past my
getting screwed victimy place, that acting with good will works. It
might not get my item, I might still be out, but I have worked with a
good energy. If the other party did rob me, well, you know, I can't
fix it anyway and its on them. Even though they might think they win,
they don't.

Life. Its one big commute with a few potholes to miss.

On Oct 9, 10:12 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Here is an update on this situation. For two weeks, this individual
 did not respond when I sent him direct emails, but he did respond
 yestereday when I wrote to him through his original message sent to
 this group. Both correspondence show the same email-address for him,
 but perhaps he can't receive my email responses...? Of course he could
 and did respond to my direct emails prior to two weeks ago.

 Anyway he said he has never lost anything in the mail, but apparently
 he has this time. And how does he know I haven't received the item and
 am just trying to scam him? Also he offered to return my item.

 I have no way to verify any of this, as he has no way to verify my
 statements. It is possible that he sent his item non-Priority and it
 is still ambling its way to me. (I sent a crank to an RBW member in
 neighboring state Nebraska that took nearly 3 weeks to arrive.) I
 prefer to trust he has done as he says and that there is some problem
 with the mail. If anything changes, I will post it here.

 But also if this individual is selling something on this or other chat
 groups I visit, I will explain my exchange experience with the rest of
 the group.

 Thank you and to our list administrator, Jim, for your support
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[RBW] Soma Delancey

2009-10-09 Thread Richard Merkin

There is a Soma Delancey on ebay cheap, great alternative to the
absent Quickbeam except the fact you cant put fenders on it.  I have
one and actually like it more then my Rambo for everyday riding.

http://cgi.ebay.com/soma-delancey-58-frame-and-fork-fixed-single-speed-road_W0QQitemZ200388238497QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item2ea811dca1
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Johnny Alien

He does not need to out anyone as it is me that he is talking about.
I have done deals with other people on here and I think they will let
you know I have had no issues.  Also if anyone cares to know my ebay
ID is dahlia11 and I have close to 500 feedbacks and it is 100%
positive. I do not scam people and I most definitely would not do it
on a small pump exchange.

We agreed to an exchange, I sent out mine and he sent out his.  I got
his and after awhile he emailed and said he did not get mine.  I told
him at that time I would send his back as it didn't fit anyway.  he
expressed interest in trying to find a way to keep my pump so I
figured I would hold off on sending his back to see if it would
eventually arrive.

I never heard back so I figured he got it.  Then I got an email saying
he was going to call me out as a scammer.  I got this email AFTER he
apparently came here and started to make the situation sound bad.  He
told me that he sent emails inbetween but I never got them.  His
emails look like they come from two different email clients. I have
looked in my junk and trash folders and see no record of them.
Regardless I have answered every email I got from him.

My wife stuck his pump in the mail today and it was sent with a
signature required.  He can keep my pump if it ever shows up I don't
really care.

The bottom line is he is coming here making the transaction sound bad
on my end but in the end I am out double shipping and a pump.

I felt I did what I could in the situation and dealt with every email
that was sent to me. I feel bad that he feels scammed but I was honest
throughout.
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The lesson *I* learn from this episode is that, as others said,
contingencies can result in things appearing worse than they are. I for one
am glad that this was not, after all, a case of scamming or culpable
negligence and that the list remains unsullied.
Also, we ought to check our Spam boxes occasionally.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:


 He does not need to out anyone as it is me that he is talking about.
 I have done deals with other people on here and I think they will let
 you know I have had no issues.  Also if anyone cares to know my ebay
 ID is dahlia11 and I have close to 500 feedbacks and it is 100%
 positive. I do not scam people and I most definitely would not do it
 on a small pump exchange.

 We agreed to an exchange, I sent out mine and he sent out his.  I got
 his and after awhile he emailed and said he did not get mine.  I told
 him at that time I would send his back as it didn't fit anyway.  he
 expressed interest in trying to find a way to keep my pump so I
 figured I would hold off on sending his back to see if it would
 eventually arrive.

 I never heard back so I figured he got it.  Then I got an email saying
 he was going to call me out as a scammer.  I got this email AFTER he
 apparently came here and started to make the situation sound bad.  He
 told me that he sent emails inbetween but I never got them.  His
 emails look like they come from two different email clients. I have
 looked in my junk and trash folders and see no record of them.
 Regardless I have answered every email I got from him.

 My wife stuck his pump in the mail today and it was sent with a
 signature required.  He can keep my pump if it ever shows up I don't
 really care.

 The bottom line is he is coming here making the transaction sound bad
 on my end but in the end I am out double shipping and a pump.

 I felt I did what I could in the situation and dealt with every email
 that was sent to me. I feel bad that he feels scammed but I was honest
 throughout.
 



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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 The lesson *I* learn from this episode is that, as others said,
 contingencies can result in things appearing worse than they are. I for one
 am glad that this was not, after all, a case of scamming or culpable
 negligence and that the list remains unsullied.


My sister recently sent me a package-- a phone my son had left at her house.
She sent it priority mail, but it took almost *one month* to get from New
Jersey to California. We were about to claim the insurance when it finally
showed up. So lacking any other information, I'm inclined to blame the
Postal Service.

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Johnny Alien

If it never shows up then I either messed up the address and someone
else got it (which I don't think happened) OR the post office messed
up in some fashion.

In all my years of selling and trading I have yet to have the PO lose
something on me but I guess there is a first time for everything.

On Oct 9, 10:07 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  The lesson *I* learn from this episode is that, as others said,
  contingencies can result in things appearing worse than they are. I for one
  am glad that this was not, after all, a case of scamming or culpable
  negligence and that the list remains unsullied.

 My sister recently sent me a package-- a phone my son had left at her house.
 She sent it priority mail, but it took almost *one month* to get from New
 Jersey to California. We were about to claim the insurance when it finally
 showed up. So lacking any other information, I'm inclined to blame the
 Postal Service.

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Ryan Watson

 
On Friday, October 09, 2009, at 08:21PM, Johnny Alien 
johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

If it never shows up then I either messed up the address and someone
else got it (which I don't think happened) OR the post office messed
up in some fashion.

In all my years of selling and trading I have yet to have the PO lose
something on me but I guess there is a first time for everything.

It happens, but rarely. I have had a few things never show up, maybe 3 items in 
10 years?

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Ryan Watson

 
On Friday, October 09, 2009, at 08:21PM, Johnny Alien 
johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

If it never shows up then I either messed up the address and someone
else got it (which I don't think happened) OR the post office messed
up in some fashion.

In all my years of selling and trading I have yet to have the PO lose
something on me but I guess there is a first time for everything.

It happens, but rarely. I have had a few things never show up, maybe 3 items in 
10 years?

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Ryan Watson

 
On Friday, October 09, 2009, at 08:21PM, Johnny Alien 
johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

If it never shows up then I either messed up the address and someone
else got it (which I don't think happened) OR the post office messed
up in some fashion.

In all my years of selling and trading I have yet to have the PO lose
something on me but I guess there is a first time for everything.

It happens, but rarely. I have had a few things never show up, maybe 3 items in 
10 years?

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Ryan Watson

 
Sorry for the triple post! Apple's crappy webmail is wigging out again!

On Friday, October 09, 2009, at 08:31PM, Ryan Watson rswat...@me.com wrote:

 
On Friday, October 09, 2009, at 08:21PM, Johnny Alien 
johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

If it never shows up then I either messed up the address and someone
else got it (which I don't think happened) OR the post office messed
up in some fashion.

In all my years of selling and trading I have yet to have the PO lose
something on me but I guess there is a first time for everything.

It happens, but rarely. I have had a few things never show up, maybe 3 items 
in 10 years?

Ryan





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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread R Gonet

Well, good.  Apparently no scamming or dishonesty here. There are (at
least) two sides to every story and stuff happens.  It looks like the
forum can relax.  I'm OK, you're OK.
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread Esteban

Glad you weren't pinned under an Atlantis.

On Oct 9, 8:40 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Well, good.  Apparently no scamming or dishonesty here. There are (at
 least) two sides to every story and stuff happens.  It looks like the
 forum can relax.  I'm OK, you're OK.
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread R Gonet

Huh?  Addressed to me?

On Oct 9, 11:44 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Glad you weren't pinned under an Atlantis.

 On Oct 9, 8:40 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote:



  Well, good.  Apparently no scamming or dishonesty here. There are (at
  least) two sides to every story and stuff happens.  It looks like the
  forum can relax.  I'm OK, you're OK.
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[RBW] Re: Update: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

2009-10-09 Thread rob markwardt

Things do get lost. I once had a seller transpose 2 numbers of my zip
code on an item sent to me.  It took about a month and a half but it
finally arrived.  Your pump may still arrive.

Another time I had my brother mail some jewelry that I sold on ebay.
He happened to put the priority stick right on top of the address.
That one never made it.  I was out of luck and returned the money.

Both times updated honest communication made it work...even if the
news wasn't good.


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[RBW] Re: mounting a bottle dynamo on a fork? (with cantilevers)

2009-10-09 Thread Rick

Hi, Earl--it's good to know that I'm not the only person who
considered the bottle generator on the fork braze on approach!

Eventually, I went with the bracket that Peter White sells through his
site (the dynamohalter ... love that word!), and found it to be
perfect for the application--sturdy and unobtrusive, if a bit damaging
to the rear stay. Here's a picture of my set-up:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58462...@n00/3885380916/

Since I added the ABUS lock, I've redone the wiring a bit to make it
cleaner looking, but it's a good setup! (Oh, and the lights work
great, too!)

Rick


On Oct 8, 9:16 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am building up a Sam Hillborne with a sidewall dynamo that I have
 had lying around for years. Was tempted by a dynamo hub, but actually
 won't be using the light very much and wanted to keep the cost down. I
 am planning to use a battery taillight, so I'd like to mount the
 dynamo on the fork to minimize cables. The dynamo came with a two-
 piece metal clamp/mount that clamps around a seatstay or fork, but I
 have read that it shouldn't be used on a fork (even if the dynamo is
 mounted forward of the fork?).

 Do you know of other options? Is there a mount that works with the
 mini-rack brazeons on Rivendells?

 The Zinkens Dynashoe seemed like a good option, but apparently has
 been discontinued.
 Here is a 
 photo:http://www.evanscycles.com/products/busch-muller/zinkens-dynashoe-lt-...

 and 
 installed:http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/bike-accessories/busch--muller-b...

 Lastly, is it possible to have bottle dynamo on a fork AND a Nitto
 mini front rack at the same time? Looks like the rack stays occupy the
 space where the dynamo would go.

 Thanks much,

 Earl

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