[RBW] Re: Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth (seeking Imron chart in San Diego area)
I am pleased to have a Roadeo on order and need to let the Rivendell folks know the Imron color. I am in the San Diego area. Can anyone suggest somewhere I can walk into to see an Imron color book or chart? The color I want is a very old school celeste, like Bianchis were 50 years ago, sort of a pale blue. The Bianchis of recent decades are much darker and often much greener, I believe. They are obviously Bianchis to riders of the past decade because of that color. I want the old style pale blue, because I like it better and also because I don't want it to say Bianchi! to riders of the current era. Can anyone advise? Thanks! Chris Kostman http://www.XO-1.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS Quickbeam Wheels
Im selling my quickbeam wheels for $225 plus shipping, with the quick release skewers. They have a few hundred miles on them but still work great. Let me know if you are interested --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 03:42 -0700, ToddBS wrote: On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. If you like step-on pedals, that's fine. There are several very nice ones on the market. They don't work for me, other than for an errand bike, but if they work for you that's great. However, you shouldn't exaggerate the defects of the alternative as a way of advocating for them. Clipless pedals have come a long way since the mid 1980s, and fixed-position pedals are a distant memory. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:42 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: I think all the Salukis were painted here in the States? That's why they were offered with three colors Initially, two colors: silver and what's-inside-the-baby's-diaper olive. Neither appealed to me. I'm not sure if some arrived painted and some were unpainted. But mine definitely was. So, no charge for stripping, etc. to choose from and a minimal up-charge for custom. Yes, I even forgot to mention, included in that price was the relocation of the fork rack mounts from standard (proper for Mark's Rack) to the location Gilles Berthoud preferred for his front rack, which is what I used. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Free to good home: Women's Ibex wool top L
Hey David send the ibec wool top our way. I would send this message off the group but haven't found how. Send your email to akesl...@pacific.net Thanks, Steve - Original Message - From: cyclotourist To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: [RBW] Free to good home: Women's Ibex wool top L Really nice lightweight wool, no piling. One 15mm spot on front due to a moth feast. It has a quick-fix darning job on it there that you can take out do better on. Ever so slightly shrunk for the stated large size. Fits more like a medium but evenly shrunk. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4010094071/ + the two photos after that. Shipping is $5. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
Glad to see the back of them. Maybe most people thought like me and they just didn't sell well On Oct 14, 1:07 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
Looks good, but why are the hills blue and the sky silver? Silver clouds I understand. If it is a too many color isue maybe the extra shade of green should be on the hills? Just seems kind of off, not sure why. When I saw it not filled in I thought immediately of my local ride up into the hills, but never have the hills been blue? Rob On Oct 13, 8:09 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: More pics of the headbadge on the painted frame (scroll down to bottom):http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 Looking good! On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed love the head badge, looking forward to seeing it with color. I also like the job that Riv does with headbadges and decals but I have to admit Betty Foy kind of scares me. On Sep 11, 8:02 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed this posted on the Riv website: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/155 I really like the headbadge and lettering for the tubes. The Roadeo is shaping up to be a winner. I agree, i love the decal work on the recent batch of new frames; the center line art and the asymmetry. They were good before, but even better lately. Kudos indeed to Grant and the graphic artist on these. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
I thought they were perfect for my Quickbeam, an odd quirky bike in its own right. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695...@n00/2760281945/in/set-72157607471577085/ But I wouldn't think to put them on my other bikes. Besides the RuffyTuffy sure rides harsh. As soon as I wear the Speedblends out I will put on Paselas. On Oct 14, 8:37 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I liked 'em too, gave a set as a gift once, and they're still in use. I think they were just a bit too expensive (and maybe too wide) to catch on with the hipster fixie set, or Grant could have made a killing there. Even classic bikes can use a bit of frivolous fun. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they looked awesome. Standing still, or otherwise. On Oct 14, 10:01 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I'm thinking the idea of a pinwheel treatment to tires did not go over very well. I thought they looked dorky when standing still, and you the rider, could not see the blend while you were riding the the bike. On Oct 13, 10:07 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Orange Hillborne with Albatross Bars
In the spirit of the Fall season here in North Carolina, we took our latest build-up outside of the photo studio for some EcoVelo inspired photos. Since we couldn't quite capture Alan's photographic skill, we decided just to take a lot of photos: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Some general info about the bike: -- 56cm Orange Hillborne -- Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-ends mounted to Paul's thumbies -- Sugino triple crankset and Shimano XT derailleurs -- Velocity ATB hubs on Velocity Synergy 700c silver 36 rims -- Schwalbe 700x38c Marathon Plus tires -- Nitto dirt drop stem and Albatross bars -- VO 48mm fluted fenders Best of all, the bike has a great upright riding position, with plenty of room for adjustment. Thanks for letting us share, Bryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how they would cover as well as a sleeping bag. On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and don't cost as much as many down bags. They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for moving about. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
but how about some custom Rivendell clothespins and playing cards to stick in the spokes? On Oct 13, 10:07 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
I realize the Roadeo on the Riv site is just a prototype, but FWIW Joe Bell would never let a messy masking job like that leave his shop. Here's a sample of his lug masking--the dividing line between the colors runs exactly down the middle of the lip of the lug. Simply amazing. http://campyonly.com/images/richardsachs/mysachs3/Dscn1689_800.jpg He also hand-painted the head badge on my Cinelli: http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli-red/IMG_0174_800.jpg Needless to say, I wholeheartedly recommend his work. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:09 PM, cyclotourist wrote: More pics of the headbadge on the painted frame (scroll down to bottom): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 Looking good! On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed love the head badge, looking forward to seeing it with color. I also like the job that Riv does with headbadges and decals but I have to admit Betty Foy kind of scares me. On Sep 11, 8:02 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed this posted on the Riv website: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/155 I really like the headbadge and lettering for the tubes. The Roadeo is shaping up to be a winner. I agree, i love the decal work on the recent batch of new frames; the center line art and the asymmetry. They were good before, but even better lately. Kudos indeed to Grant and the graphic artist on these. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
That's just unbelievably good. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Norris Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:25 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo art I realize the Roadeo on the Riv site is just a prototype, but FWIW Joe Bell would never let a messy masking job like that leave his shop. Here's a sample of his lug masking--the dividing line between the colors runs exactly down the middle of the lip of the lug. Simply amazing. http://campyonly.com/images/richardsachs/mysachs3/Dscn1689_800.jpg He also hand-painted the head badge on my Cinelli: http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli-red/IMG_0174_800.jpg Needless to say, I wholeheartedly recommend his work. --Eric campyonly...@me.commailto:campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.comhttp://www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.orghttp://www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:09 PM, cyclotourist wrote: More pics of the headbadge on the painted frame (scroll down to bottom): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 Looking good! On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.commailto:rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed love the head badge, looking forward to seeing it with color. I also like the job that Riv does with headbadges and decals but I have to admit Betty Foy kind of scares me. On Sep 11, 8:02 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.commailto:bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.commailto:mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed this posted on the Riv website: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/155 I really like the headbadge and lettering for the tubes. The Roadeo is shaping up to be a winner. I agree, i love the decal work on the recent batch of new frames; the center line art and the asymmetry. They were good before, but even better lately. Kudos indeed to Grant and the graphic artist on these. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any email, and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] ULine Bike Box
While scanning a shipping materials catalog in today's office mail, I spotted this item which may be useful to listmembers http://tinyurl.com/ygcnrdc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
I agree that it has the potential to be beautiful, but I am on the list for a rodeo and will likely be costomizing my head badge if this is what they are. The broken circle of the sun is rising over the edge of the blue sky? What are now the green hills are in the foreground, and the now blue area appeared to be hills/mountains in the distance (hence the road continuing up into them) with a rising sun before colored as these prototypes. Likewise the textured clouds could be really cool if surrounded by blue as opposed to a complete sky of silver. So close and a lot of time and money for something that is so close but just a little off, at least to my eye. Again, just my opinion, but these could be really beautiful, if left in an antiqued brass, imagination required for colors and then these debates could become the fodder of fireside debate. Rob On Oct 14, 6:00 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:55 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Looks good, but why are the hills blue and the sky silver? Silver clouds I understand. If it is a too many color isue maybe the extra shade of green should be on the hills? Just seems kind of off, not sure why. When I saw it not filled in I thought immediately of my local ride up into the hills, but never have the hills been blue? hills are green sky is blue clouds are silver and the implication of it is that you're riding up to the hills and off into the sky. ie: you're flying away. I think it looks fantastic, personally. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
I got them when I purchased the Quickbeam and thought they looked great...for about a week and then have hid them away in the basement. Someday, when I get the urge to get a tattoo or an earring or want to have a parrot sit on my shoulder I'll use them again. I did find they're a great way to meet women. Got a number of comments from the ladies on how cute they were. Unfortunately, my wife won't let me date. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 10/14/2009 11:02:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gjtra...@yahoo.com writes: I thought they were perfect for my Quickbeam, an odd quirky bike in its own right. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
On Oct 14, 7:34 am, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: They always seemed to me to be to bikes what spinners are to cars. I never saw how they fit in with the Rivendell philosophy of classic bikes. You must have missed the RR that explained Grant's reasoning for selling these tires. Apparently, he came out with and patented the speedblend design. His original goal was to sell the design to a large tire companies for use on car tires. If that was the case, he could have, would have, maybe even should have made his millions. :) So, the speedblend tire was developed in an effort to get out the design in the hope that a car tire mfr might see it and want to license the patent. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have ever caught on. Too bad, Grant could have used the money to further Riv and the products he wants to developed. Good Luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
To me it looks like the sun rising over the mountains, which are blue because they are in the distance. On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I agree that it has the potential to be beautiful, but I am on the list for a rodeo and will likely be costomizing my head badge if this is what they are. The broken circle of the sun is rising over the edge of the blue sky? What are now the green hills are in the foreground, and the now blue area appeared to be hills/mountains in the distance (hence the road continuing up into them) with a rising sun before colored as these prototypes. Likewise the textured clouds could be really cool if surrounded by blue as opposed to a complete sky of silver. So close and a lot of time and money for something that is so close but just a little off, at least to my eye. Again, just my opinion, but these could be really beautiful, if left in an antiqued brass, imagination required for colors and then these debates could become the fodder of fireside debate. Rob On Oct 14, 6:00 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:55 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Looks good, but why are the hills blue and the sky silver? Silver clouds I understand. If it is a too many color isue maybe the extra shade of green should be on the hills? Just seems kind of off, not sure why. When I saw it not filled in I thought immediately of my local ride up into the hills, but never have the hills been blue? hills are green sky is blue clouds are silver and the implication of it is that you're riding up to the hills and off into the sky. ie: you're flying away. I think it looks fantastic, personally. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
Ray Jardine is a big quilt advocate. There's a bunch of info on his site here: http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Quilt-Kit/index.htm or (same thing): http://bit.ly/2Cn3hv I've never used a quilt instead of a sleeping bag but I'm really interested in trying it out. (I also like Ray Jardine's sew-your-own-gear stance but I haven't yet sewn any of my own gear. That's neither here nor there though.) Stuart Seattle, WA On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how they would cover as well as a sleeping bag. On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and don't cost as much as many down bags. They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for moving about. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
And speaking of colors... I'm sure I'm not the only one out there who isn't crazy about owning a white bike. What color combinations for the frame itself will look good with that red decal? (Now.. where on earth did I stash that last set of long-reach brakes?..) -Jim K. On Oct 14, 11:51 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: To me it looks like the sun rising over the mountains, which are blue because they are in the distance. On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I agree that it has the potential to be beautiful, but I am on the list for a rodeo and will likely be costomizing my head badge if this is what they are. The broken circle of the sun is rising over the edge of the blue sky? What are now the green hills are in the foreground, and the now blue area appeared to be hills/mountains in the distance (hence the road continuing up into them) with a rising sun before colored as these prototypes. Likewise the textured clouds could be really cool if surrounded by blue as opposed to a complete sky of silver. So close and a lot of time and money for something that is so close but just a little off, at least to my eye. Again, just my opinion, but these could be really beautiful, if left in an antiqued brass, imagination required for colors and then these debates could become the fodder of fireside debate. Rob On Oct 14, 6:00 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:55 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Looks good, but why are the hills blue and the sky silver? Silver clouds I understand. If it is a too many color isue maybe the extra shade of green should be on the hills? Just seems kind of off, not sure why. When I saw it not filled in I thought immediately of my local ride up into the hills, but never have the hills been blue? hills are green sky is blue clouds are silver and the implication of it is that you're riding up to the hills and off into the sky. ie: you're flying away. I think it looks fantastic, personally. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
The sew-your-own gear IS a cool idea. I also like the idea of growing all my own food. Neither of them are likely to happen though unless I find myself unemployed! Dustin From: Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:54:15 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag Ray Jardine is a big quilt advocate. There's a bunch of info on his site here: http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Quilt-Kit/index.htm or (same thing): http://bit.ly/2Cn3hv I've never used a quilt instead of a sleeping bag but I'm really interested in trying it out. (I also like Ray Jardine's sew-your-own-gear stance but I haven't yet sewn any of my own gear. That's neither here nor there though.) Stuart Seattle, WA On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how they would cover as well as a sleeping bag. On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and don't cost as much as many down bags. They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for moving about. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: The sew-your-own gear IS a cool idea. I also like the idea of growing all my own food. Neither of them are likely to happen though unless I find myself unemployed! Dustin Yup, agreed Dustin. I resigned myself to the idea that I probably won't be sewing my own quilt anytime soon, the result of my resignation being that I have a box sitting a foot away from me from Rivendell that has a Wiggy's bag in it. UPS just delivered it! Stuart Seattle, WA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
Nice. Russ Pickett in Chico (a.k.a. Joe Bell North) is an equal to Joe Bell, for those interested in the best. -Gino On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I realize the Roadeo on the Riv site is just a prototype, but FWIW Joe Bell would never let a messy masking job like that leave his shop. Here's a sample of his lug masking--the dividing line between the colors runs exactly down the middle of the lip of the lug. Simply amazing. http://campyonly.com/images/richardsachs/mysachs3/Dscn1689_800.jpg He also hand-painted the head badge on my Cinelli: http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli-red/IMG_0174_800.jpg Needless to say, I wholeheartedly recommend his work. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:09 PM, cyclotourist wrote: More pics of the headbadge on the painted frame (scroll down to bottom): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 Looking good! On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed love the head badge, looking forward to seeing it with color. I also like the job that Riv does with headbadges and decals but I have to admit Betty Foy kind of scares me. On Sep 11, 8:02 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed this posted on the Riv website: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/155 I really like the headbadge and lettering for the tubes. The Roadeo is shaping up to be a winner. I agree, i love the decal work on the recent batch of new frames; the center line art and the asymmetry. They were good before, but even better lately. Kudos indeed to Grant and the graphic artist on these. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
maybe they would catch on in the bmx world. those folks would look cool on tv riding bikes with speedblends during the xgames. On Oct 14, 9:49 am, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 14, 7:34 am, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: They always seemed to me to be to bikes what spinners are to cars. I never saw how they fit in with the Rivendell philosophy of classic bikes. You must have missed the RR that explained Grant's reasoning for selling these tires. Apparently, he came out with and patented the speedblend design. His original goal was to sell the design to a large tire companies for use on car tires. If that was the case, he could have, would have, maybe even should have made his millions. :) So, the speedblend tire was developed in an effort to get out the design in the hope that a car tire mfr might see it and want to license the patent. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have ever caught on. Too bad, Grant could have used the money to further Riv and the products he wants to developed. Good Luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
I had them on my QB until I switched to fatter tires. They rode well and I got lots of compliments. I sold them at a swap meet and actually had dueling bids for them. The guy who won was going to get rims to match for his fixie. I'd use them again if I hadn't tried Jack Brown's, which are my favorite tires now in that size. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
Yes, they'd be popular with that crowd. For example, a friend's bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spor/2376631886. I get comments on my speedblends (http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/3698726070) all the time from SF fixie riders. -nathan On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I liked 'em too, gave a set as a gift once, and they're still in use. I think they were just a bit too expensive (and maybe too wide) to catch on with the hipster fixie set, or Grant could have made a killing there. Even classic bikes can use a bit of frivolous fun. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they looked awesome. Standing still, or otherwise. On Oct 14, 10:01 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I'm thinking the idea of a pinwheel treatment to tires did not go over very well. I thought they looked dorky when standing still, and you the rider, could not see the blend while you were riding the the bike. On Oct 13, 10:07 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo art
http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/4012286946/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/4011521641/ and for some off topic goodness! http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/4012282124/ On Oct 14, 12:30 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. Russ Pickett in Chico (a.k.a. Joe Bell North) is an equal to Joe Bell, for those interested in the best. -Gino On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I realize the Roadeo on the Riv site is just a prototype, but FWIW Joe Bell would never let a messy masking job like that leave his shop. Here's a sample of his lug masking--the dividing line between the colors runs exactly down the middle of the lip of the lug. Simply amazing. http://campyonly.com/images/richardsachs/mysachs3/Dscn1689_800.jpg He also hand-painted the head badge on my Cinelli: http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli-red/IMG_0174_800.jpg Needless to say, I wholeheartedly recommend his work. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:09 PM, cyclotourist wrote: More pics of the headbadge on the painted frame (scroll down to bottom): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-618 Looking good! On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed love the head badge, looking forward to seeing it with color. I also like the job that Riv does with headbadges and decals but I have to admit Betty Foy kind of scares me. On Sep 11, 8:02 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed this posted on the Riv website: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/155 I really like the headbadge and lettering for the tubes. The Roadeo is shaping up to be a winner. I agree, i love the decal work on the recent batch of new frames; the center line art and the asymmetry. They were good before, but even better lately. Kudos indeed to Grant and the graphic artist on these. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] grip kings with toe clips
I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: grip kings with toe clips
You would want to have a very smooth shoe sole with that set up. Getting your foot in and out of toe clips where the pedal has a grippy surface can be a bit of a challenge. No problem on long rides. But on rides where you start and stop often it can be a bit of a pain. On Oct 14, 2:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: grip kings with toe clips
I never found Grip Kings to be that grippy. There have been times when I thought Slip KIngs would be a better name for them. Same with the MKS touring pedals. Part of it was just getting used to the pedals after so many years using clipless. I've found the the MKS touring pedals are a little more comfortable for my feet. I use them without clips and straps. I still have to post the picture on my flickr page but when I was in NYC earlier this week I came across a lugged Eddy Merckx doing messenger duty that was sporting Grip Kings. Seemed rather incongruent. --mike On Oct 14, 1:31 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You would want to have a very smooth shoe sole with that set up. Getting your foot in and out of toe clips where the pedal has a grippy surface can be a bit of a challenge. No problem on long rides. But on rides where you start and stop often it can be a bit of a pain. On Oct 14, 2:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
On Tuesday, October 13, 2009, at 11:07PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. Don't know the answer, but I've got a lightly used set of speedblend Nifty Swifties if anyone wants to make a deal. Cheers, Ryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
I like speedblends. They did not last for long in the 700c size though. Luckily I bought mine when I could. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2993057643_23fffde217_b.jpg There was a time a few years ago that Target was selling them for $20 each. I missed that boat. On Oct 14, 5:11 pm, Ryan Watson rswat...@me.com wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2009, at 11:07PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious - did speedblends just go out of production or did they get shelved for some other reason? I've never ridden on tires with speedblend sidewalls - I just thought they looked cool. Don't know the answer, but I've got a lightly used set of speedblend Nifty Swifties if anyone wants to make a deal. Cheers, Ryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
Since you asked for other reccomendations, look at :http:// www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?cat_id=28p_id=1121729 I have two seasons with this bag. Sleeps like a rectangle, weighs 1.9lbs. packs to the size of a large coffee can. Rated at 30 degrees and I've used it from 80 degrees down to below freezing. Very happy. For a great tent, also two seasons of touring look here: http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/SeedhouseSL2 . I use the SL2 for added room and not much more weight. The SL1 is a bit smaller and lighter. The tent is wicked fast for setting up, held up this summer at 9,850 ft elevation howling storm with rain the size of quarters on an abandoned logging road just outside of Yosemite NP above Tioga Pass. Both combined the are just a bit over 5lbs. There are lighter ways to tour but I like the comfort and use of a good bag and a good vestibule for my bags. Gary On Oct 12, 9:13 pm, mizrachi mizrachi1...@gmail.com wrote: The Wiggy's Desert Mummy Sleeping Bag found on the Riv site looks compelling but I can find no other reviews of the product. I'm in the market for a sleeping bag (and a 2-person tent) to use on a short tour and I live in Northern Florida, so a summer/fall weight bag would be appropriate, though we do get about a week of near freezing temperatures in the middle of winter. Anyway, I'm intrigued by some of the rectangular shaped bags as well, or at least mummy bags that offer some room to breath, especially in the toe box, or bags that can unzip fully and act more as a blanket than a snug fitting bag. At home, my feet usually like to be on the outside of my comforter and I can imagine feeling pretty overheated and claustrophobic in something too restrictive. Any Wiggy's users out there? Or other recommendations that might work in my case? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: grip kings with toe clips
I have a set of the MKS RX-1 track pedals. I set them up with Bruce Gordon half clips on my city bike. Riding with smooth soled shoes was no problem. But when I wore a pair of sneakers with tread lines that went from side to side, the tread would catch on the pedal. I think the best pedal for half clips are the platform designs such as the old Lyotard Berthets and the modern manifestation of same White Industries is now making. I have both and really like them, although I normally keep the Lyotards on a shelf. Antiques deserve their rest. On Oct 14, 4:07 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I never found Grip Kings to be that grippy. There have been times when I thought Slip KIngs would be a better name for them. Same with the MKS touring pedals. Part of it was just getting used to the pedals after so many years using clipless. I've found the the MKS touring pedals are a little more comfortable for my feet. I use them without clips and straps. I still have to post the picture on my flickr page but when I was in NYC earlier this week I came across a lugged Eddy Merckx doing messenger duty that was sporting Grip Kings. Seemed rather incongruent. --mike On Oct 14, 1:31 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You would want to have a very smooth shoe sole with that set up. Getting your foot in and out of toe clips where the pedal has a grippy surface can be a bit of a challenge. No problem on long rides. But on rides where you start and stop often it can be a bit of a pain. On Oct 14, 2:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
well, I went to shimano spd's a while back (646), but I did it because I'm a left leg amputee, and I really can't hold my leg on a plain old pedal. in fact, last year I even abandoned a shoe and mounted the spd cleat directly on my artificial foot under the heel, which I'd recommend to any amputee. It took a little leg length and seat height adjusting, and walking isn't pleasant, but it makes riding really nice. best ts -- On Oct 13, 4:11 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote: I'd take it one step further and say it has everything to do with your shoes - or at least where the cleats are fastened to the shoes. Bill In a message dated 10/13/2009 7:00:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, palin...@his.com writes: There's a reasonable chance this has nothing at all to do with the pedals and everything to do with your shoes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
On Oct 14, 9:49 am, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 14, 7:34 am, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: They always seemed to me to be to bikes what spinners are to cars. I never saw how they fit in with the Rivendell philosophy of classic bikes. You must have missed the RR that explained Grant's reasoning for selling these tires. Apparently, he came out with and patented the speedblend design. His original goal was to sell the design to a large tire companies for use on car tires. If that was the case, he could have, would have, maybe even should have made his millions. :) So, the speedblend tire was developed in an effort to get out the design in the hope that a car tire mfr might see it and want to license the patent. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have ever caught on. Too bad, Grant could have used the money to further Riv and the products he wants to developed. Good Luck! Btw, the closest car tire to the speedblends were the BF Goodrich Scorchers: http://wayneswheels.net/BFGoodrich.html Unfortunately, the Scorcher tire never caught on and was quickly discontinued by the company. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
My wife rides the 35 mm version and really likes them. They look best on a bike with a single color paint job. She always got lots of good comments about them. Too bad we can't get them anymore. Michael On Oct 14, 5:54 pm, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 14, 9:49 am, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 14, 7:34 am, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: They always seemed to me to be to bikes what spinners are to cars. I never saw how they fit in with the Rivendell philosophy of classic bikes. You must have missed the RR that explained Grant's reasoning for selling these tires. Apparently, he came out with and patented the speedblend design. His original goal was to sell the design to a large tire companies for use on car tires. If that was the case, he could have, would have, maybe even should have made his millions. :) So, the speedblend tire was developed in an effort to get out the design in the hope that a car tire mfr might see it and want to license the patent. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have ever caught on. Too bad, Grant could have used the money to further Riv and the products he wants to developed. Good Luck! Btw, the closest car tire to the speedblends were the BF Goodrich Scorchers: http://wayneswheels.net/BFGoodrich.html Unfortunately, the Scorcher tire never caught on and was quickly discontinued by the company. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Stolen RB-T
Changed topic for relevance. On Oct 14, 10:23 am, BEN STAGGS staggsb...@msn.com wrote: Green RB-T with Carradice and Ostrich bags stolen from me in Denver, Colo. if anyone sees this bike it is stolen. Happened this morning on my way to work/school. Bike is a 1994 version in dark green. sincerely yours, Ben S. From: nore...@googlegroups.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: rbw-owners-bunch - 26 new messages in 9 topics - digest Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:34:03 + RBW Owners Bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Today's topics: * FS Quickbeam Wheels - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/fcb97897ebfc83a3?hl=en * Clipless Pedals - 3 messages, 3 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/25b13928cc940567?hl=en * Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth - 4 messages, 4 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c224282b1985587e?hl=en * Free to good home: Women's Ibex wool top L - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/3e730970f6131101?hl=en * whatever happened to speedblends? - 7 messages, 6 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/f56e4778f4c2c57f?hl=en * Roadeo art - 5 messages, 4 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/ccc1e1523e24776e?hl=en * Orange Hillborne with Albatross Bars - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/f02b61d1e2f5e644?hl=en * Wiggy's Sleeping Bag - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/32f87bdab849101c?hl=en * ULine Bike Box - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/5708e5aedf966483?hl=en === === TOPIC: FS Quickbeam Wheels http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/fcb97897ebfc83a3?hl=en === === == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 1:00 am From: Andrew Im selling my quickbeam wheels for $225 plus shipping, with the quick release skewers. They have a few hundred miles on them but still work great. Let me know if you are interested === === TOPIC: Clipless Pedals http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/25b13928cc940567?hl=en === === == 1 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 3:42 am From: ToddBS On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. == 2 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:26 am From: Steve Palincsar On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 03:42 -0700, ToddBS wrote: On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. If you like step-on pedals, that's fine. There are several very nice ones on the market. They don't work for me, other than for an errand bike, but if they work for you that's great. However, you shouldn't exaggerate the defects of the alternative as a way of advocating for them. Clipless pedals have come a long way since the mid 1980s, and fixed-position pedals are a distant memory. == 3 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 6:17 am From: PATRICK MOORE Violently yanking this thread in a direction more interesting to Moi, I ask *those of you who have used both (the rest of ya keep silent): Which do you like better, Look Keos or Speedplay X2s, and why? Be thorough and complete in your reply. Extra credit for good penmanship. (I'll let those of you who have actually used other Looks and other X pedals chime in, too. No comments from the peanut gallery, please.) Patrick Moore, who has used Graftons (both models) and Stratics, and you haven't. === === TOPIC: Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c224282b1985587e?hl=en === === == 1 of 4 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:55 am From: Steve Palincsar On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:42 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: I think all the Salukis were painted here in the States? That's why they were offered with three colors Initially, two colors: silver and what's-inside-the-baby's-diaper olive. Neither appealed to me. I'm not sure if some arrived painted and some were unpainted. But mine definitely was. So, no charge for stripping, etc. to choose from and a minimal up-charge for custom. Yes, I even forgot to mention, included in that price was the relocation of the fork rack mounts from standard (proper
[RBW] Re: grip kings with toe clips
Hey Joel, have you tried the VO pedals. They seem nice and I wonder how they compare with the MKS pedals. --mike On Oct 14, 2:34 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have a set of the MKS RX-1 track pedals. I set them up with Bruce Gordon half clips on my city bike. Riding with smooth soled shoes was no problem. But when I wore a pair of sneakers with tread lines that went from side to side, the tread would catch on the pedal. I think the best pedal for half clips are the platform designs such as the old Lyotard Berthets and the modern manifestation of same White Industries is now making. I have both and really like them, although I normally keep the Lyotards on a shelf. Antiques deserve their rest. On Oct 14, 4:07 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I never found Grip Kings to be that grippy. There have been times when I thought Slip KIngs would be a better name for them. Same with the MKS touring pedals. Part of it was just getting used to the pedals after so many years using clipless. I've found the the MKS touring pedals are a little more comfortable for my feet. I use them without clips and straps. I still have to post the picture on my flickr page but when I was in NYC earlier this week I came across a lugged Eddy Merckx doing messenger duty that was sporting Grip Kings. Seemed rather incongruent. --mike On Oct 14, 1:31 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You would want to have a very smooth shoe sole with that set up. Getting your foot in and out of toe clips where the pedal has a grippy surface can be a bit of a challenge. No problem on long rides. But on rides where you start and stop often it can be a bit of a pain. On Oct 14, 2:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: rbw-owners-bunch - 26 new messages in 9 topics - digest
Sorry to hear about this. I don't live in Denver but I hope you get it back (and that somebody nails the d***bag who stole it). If you don't mind my asking, how was it stolen while on your way somewhere?You weren't mugged or something, I hope? On Oct 14, 1:23 pm, BEN STAGGS staggsb...@msn.com wrote: Green RB-T with Carradice and Ostrich bags stolen from me in Denver, Colo. if anyone sees this bike it is stolen. Happened this morning on my way to work/school. Bike is a 1994 version in dark green. sincerely yours, Ben S. From: nore...@googlegroups.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: rbw-owners-bunch - 26 new messages in 9 topics - digest Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:34:03 + RBW Owners Bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Today's topics: * FS Quickbeam Wheels - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/fcb97897ebfc83a3?hl=en * Clipless Pedals - 3 messages, 3 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/25b13928cc940567?hl=en * Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth - 4 messages, 4 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c224282b1985587e?hl=en * Free to good home: Women's Ibex wool top L - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/3e730970f6131101?hl=en * whatever happened to speedblends? - 7 messages, 6 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/f56e4778f4c2c57f?hl=en * Roadeo art - 5 messages, 4 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/ccc1e1523e24776e?hl=en * Orange Hillborne with Albatross Bars - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/f02b61d1e2f5e644?hl=en * Wiggy's Sleeping Bag - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/32f87bdab849101c?hl=en * ULine Bike Box - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/5708e5aedf966483?hl=en == TOPIC: FS Quickbeam Wheels http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/fcb97897ebfc83a3?hl=en == == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 1:00 am From: Andrew Im selling my quickbeam wheels for $225 plus shipping, with the quick release skewers. They have a few hundred miles on them but still work great. Let me know if you are interested == TOPIC: Clipless Pedals http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/25b13928cc940567?hl=en == == 1 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 3:42 am From: ToddBS On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. == 2 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:26 am From: Steve Palincsar On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 03:42 -0700, ToddBS wrote: On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: In a word, float. I have infinite float on my current pedals. If you like step-on pedals, that's fine. There are several very nice ones on the market. They don't work for me, other than for an errand bike, but if they work for you that's great. However, you shouldn't exaggerate the defects of the alternative as a way of advocating for them. Clipless pedals have come a long way since the mid 1980s, and fixed-position pedals are a distant memory. == 3 of 3 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 6:17 am From: PATRICK MOORE Violently yanking this thread in a direction more interesting to Moi, I ask *those of you who have used both (the rest of ya keep silent): Which do you like better, Look Keos or Speedplay X2s, and why? Be thorough and complete in your reply. Extra credit for good penmanship. (I'll let those of you who have actually used other Looks and other X pedals chime in, too. No comments from the peanut gallery, please.) Patrick Moore, who has used Graftons (both models) and Stratics, and you haven't. == TOPIC: Looking for that String in The Custom Color Labyrinth http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c224282b1985587e?hl=en == == 1 of 4 == Date: Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:55 am From: Steve Palincsar On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:42 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: I think all the Salukis were painted here in the States? That's why they were offered with three colors Initially, two colors: silver and what's-inside-the-baby's-diaper olive. Neither appealed to me. I'm not sure if some arrived painted and some were unpainted. But mine definitely was. So, no charge for
[RBW] Re: Stolen RB-T
And if you catch 'em... And if you find the thief... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4pCaXX4sCo On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Frank frank.r.ful...@gmail.com wrote: Changed topic for relevance. On Oct 14, 10:23 am, BEN STAGGS staggsb...@msn.com wrote: Green RB-T with Carradice and Ostrich bags stolen from me in Denver, Colo. if anyone sees this bike it is stolen. Happened this morning on my way to work/school. Bike is a 1994 version in dark green. sincerely yours, Ben S. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
As an avid backpacker, and one who once sewed his own quilt (not so neat of a result) I can explain why quilts are so handy and practical. If one uses a down sleeping bag in the traditional manner, he or she loses almost all of the thermo value underneath the sleeping body as the weight of the sleeper compresses the down, thereby neutralizing any loft, therefore losing nearly all thermo value. Down is most effective when it is lofted, therefore unzipping it and using it as a quilt, with feet tucked into the partially zipped toe box, is an extremely efficient way to use the bag, and it provides S much more comfort when tossing and turning. Of course, the bottom thermo value of any bag is gained not from the bag, but from the mattress. The mattress is the most important thermo block to protect one from low ground temps. If you have not tried sleeping using a mummy bag unzipped as a quilt, I highly recommend it, especially for three-season use. Ray --- On Wed, 10/14/09, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: From: clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:31 AM Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how they would cover as well as a sleeping bag. On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and don't cost as much as many down bags. They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for moving about. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orange Hillborne with Albatross Bars
The brake choice came down to the decision by the customer. He had a definite preference for caliper brakes, so since we could (by the skin of our teeth) make them work with the fenders, we went with them (and we had a pair of Shimano canti's waiting in the wings just in case.) The skewers (and wheelset) are all Velocity. And more Murphy updates are soon ... although a pile of parts is just not that exciting to photograph. But we'll see if we can make it interesting. Thanks for all of the complements, Bryan On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: In the spirit of the Fall season here in North Carolina, we took our latest build-up outside of the photo studio for some EcoVelo inspired photos. Since we couldn't quite capture Alan's photographic skill, we decided just to take a lot of photos: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Some general info about the bike: -- 56cm Orange Hillborne -- Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-ends mounted to Paul's thumbies -- Sugino triple crankset and Shimano XT derailleurs -- Velocity ATB hubs on Velocity Synergy 700c silver 36 rims -- Schwalbe 700x38c Marathon Plus tires -- Nitto dirt drop stem and Albatross bars -- VO 48mm fluted fenders Best of all, the bike has a great upright riding position, with plenty of room for adjustment. Any particular reason why you didn't want to use the canti studs? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: grip kings with toe clips
I've not tried them. In my opinion, the VO look better, as I prefer all silver components. It does not seem likely a $40.00 pedal is as smooth as the $110.00 NJS approved pedal, however. Good bearings are expensive. On Oct 14, 6:45 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Joel, have you tried the VO pedals. They seem nice and I wonder how they compare with the MKS pedals. --mike On Oct 14, 2:34 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have a set of the MKS RX-1 track pedals. I set them up with Bruce Gordon half clips on my city bike. Riding with smooth soled shoes was no problem. But when I wore a pair of sneakers with tread lines that went from side to side, the tread would catch on the pedal. I think the best pedal for half clips are the platform designs such as the old Lyotard Berthets and the modern manifestation of same White Industries is now making. I have both and really like them, although I normally keep the Lyotards on a shelf. Antiques deserve their rest. On Oct 14, 4:07 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I never found Grip Kings to be that grippy. There have been times when I thought Slip KIngs would be a better name for them. Same with the MKS touring pedals. Part of it was just getting used to the pedals after so many years using clipless. I've found the the MKS touring pedals are a little more comfortable for my feet. I use them without clips and straps. I still have to post the picture on my flickr page but when I was in NYC earlier this week I came across a lugged Eddy Merckx doing messenger duty that was sporting Grip Kings. Seemed rather incongruent. --mike On Oct 14, 1:31 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You would want to have a very smooth shoe sole with that set up. Getting your foot in and out of toe clips where the pedal has a grippy surface can be a bit of a challenge. No problem on long rides. But on rides where you start and stop often it can be a bit of a pain. On Oct 14, 2:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this on Flickr. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rainypeakcyclery/3856643772/-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Sackville Shopsack!
I got mine a few days ago and it's pretty neat. Perfect fit in the large Wald basket. I'm using it folded in on itself as a sort of basket liner. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4012913670/ Most of the time I'll just toss stuff in as is, but I'll have the option of zipping it up properly as cargo and weather dictate. Ryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I will never forget my first century attempt, in 1973 wearing athletic shoes (we called them sneakers in those days) with my Campagnolo Record quill pedals. (I also wore shorts made from cut-off denim trousers with briefs underneath, and did not wear gloves.) I can still feel the burning lines of fire in my feet whenever I think of it. Internet forums are full of either-or thinking. It doesn't have to be canvas running shoes on quill pedals. It could be any touring shoe. The idea is that you can ride in any shoe, not that you have to ride in any particular one. I wouldn't venture out into a long cycling tour without appropriate shoes, but that doesn't mean it has to be on clipless pedals. In the meantime, most of my day-to-day riding involves jaunts around the city for 20-30 miles. I can do that in just about any shoe I have in the house, including the 20-dollar athletic shoe clones I bought on special at a discount store. I use toe clips though. I'm not too found of bare pedals without any foot restraint at all. _ New! Open Messenger faster on the MSN homepage http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677405 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
