[RBW] Re: brass fenders on orange Hillborne? thumbs up or down?
I'll use a Brooks saddle for comparison. I had a honey B-17 with copper rails. The combination was way too much orangey for me, and the rails being a similar color to the saddle detracted from the beauty of both. On Jun 27, 9:44 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Do it! Unless you're a conformist, then do only silver parts. On Jun 27, 2:42 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Contemplating my Hillborne build and wondering whether brass fenders would look okay with the Sam's orange. The bike would be adorned with silver rims/spokes/brakes/racks/levers/stem/bars/cages. Would the brass look too weird or would it fill a gap of some chromatic sort between the silvery dull-brite-y-ness and the ever-so-slightly copper- y orange. It would have a brass bell also. Also, does anyone have any experience with the Tanaka brass fenders? Are they pure brass or some sort of plating? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who is geeking out as his frame approaches- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
Beautiful bike with a beautiful paint job. Very much like the color scheme. Well done!! Go ride the schibazzle out of it... Rubber Side Down- -Scott On Jun 27, 3:19 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Back in the day I had a silver Rivendell Cyclocross bike, I really enjoyed the color. A good bike. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2007/cx025-anguslemon0407.html So when I managed to damage the clear powdercoat on my Atlantis, I opted for a silver cream repaint. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4740106394/http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4739465349/in/photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4739461407/in/photostream/ I think it came out quite well. I have just finished frame savering the frame (figured I had better after the repaint) and can't wait to get the bike back on the road again. The only unfortunate thing is the frame showed up right before three weeks of traveling. Angus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: brass fenders on orange Hillborne? thumbs up or down?
Thomas, I had/am thinking of using brass fenders on an orange Rambouillet...it may be quite bit of orange on a bike, but some paint their fenders frame color. If the brass would age/corrode over time...I would definitely do it! But then again, perhaps it is not best to ask my advice regarding style...my daughters tell me I don't get it right. Angus On Jun 27, 2:42 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Contemplating my Hillborne build and wondering whether brass fenders would look okay with the Sam's orange. The bike would be adorned with silver rims/spokes/brakes/racks/levers/stem/bars/cages. Would the brass look too weird or would it fill a gap of some chromatic sort between the silvery dull-brite-y-ness and the ever-so-slightly copper- y orange. It would have a brass bell also. Also, does anyone have any experience with the Tanaka brass fenders? Are they pure brass or some sort of plating? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who is geeking out as his frame approaches -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] double RIv sighting in Carrboro
I saw his and hers Rivs last evening in Carrboro, NC. An AHH and a Betty Foy, I think. Anyone's on here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] double RIv sighting in Carrboro
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Neil Anderson neilanderson...@gmail.com wrote: I saw his and hers Rivs last evening in Carrboro, NC. An AHH and a Betty Foy, I think. Anyone's on here? I don't know if he's on the list - but I think the guy's name is blake and I don't think I ever got the owner of the betty foy's name. But I ran into them a while back at weaver st, too. Nice bikes. Neil, Are you around the triang NC-area? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WIDE fenders
I'm using SKS P65s on Schwalbe Marathon 26x1.75s. Cosmetically, they are a bit too wide. But, my fork is so wide that I felt skinny fenders would have looked even worse. I do wonder how much wind resistance all that extra width creates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Atlantis F/F/HS
I didn't receive your email or I would have responded. It's still available. On Jun 27, 9:36 pm, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Has this sold? I tried to email off list but didn't receive a response... Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX On Jun 15, 8:17 am, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: Title says it all. Excellent condition. No dents, dings, scrapes, scratches, gouges, ect. Has a few minor pinhead size nicks that have been touched up. It literally looks new from a few feet away. Headset has been repacked and the frame and fork have been treated with framesaver. You won’t be disappointed if this is what your in search of. I’m asking $1300 shipped. Please email me offlist. Thanks, Frank Brose- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Silver Shifters and SRAM cassette
After five years my Rambouillet is getting a makeover. First change was swapping out the Sugino triple for the White double with 44/30 rings and switching to an 11-28 SRAM cassette. I have always had great shifting with the silver shifters and ultegra cassettes. With the Shimano I often shift across multiple cogs and will almost always have the chain land exactly where I want it. With the SRAM I am constantly searching for the sweet spot and sometimes I can't find it at all. At first I assumed it was me, and that the cassette merely shifted differently and I would get the feel of it. But I have found that even in the shop, especially in the middle of the cassette, I have a very hard time trimming the rear derailleur. The chain moves early, and if I stop shifting there it will jump back. But it is still easy to overshift. I have checked the rear derailleur, a Centaur medium cage, and don't see any problem with it. The chain is a nearly new Connex which shows only .25 on my Park chain tool. The D ring on the shifter was very tight and I have tried loosening it to give me more control. On the repair stand, even when I don't get any noise I can still feel a slight notchyness in the setup. I removed the chain to make certain that the BB wasn't causing that. Does anyone else have any experience with this setup? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Silver Shifters and SRAM cassette
Are you sure you have the correct chain? Sounds like it may be too wide, which could cause it to engage the ramps on the cogs too soon and shift early. —Eric N On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:55 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: After five years my Rambouillet is getting a makeover. First change was swapping out the Sugino triple for the White double with 44/30 rings and switching to an 11-28 SRAM cassette. I have always had great shifting with the silver shifters and ultegra cassettes. With the Shimano I often shift across multiple cogs and will almost always have the chain land exactly where I want it. With the SRAM I am constantly searching for the sweet spot and sometimes I can't find it at all. At first I assumed it was me, and that the cassette merely shifted differently and I would get the feel of it. But I have found that even in the shop, especially in the middle of the cassette, I have a very hard time trimming the rear derailleur. The chain moves early, and if I stop shifting there it will jump back. But it is still easy to overshift. I have checked the rear derailleur, a Centaur medium cage, and don't see any problem with it. The chain is a nearly new Connex which shows only .25 on my Park chain tool. The D ring on the shifter was very tight and I have tried loosening it to give me more control. On the repair stand, even when I don't get any noise I can still feel a slight notchyness in the setup. I removed the chain to make certain that the BB wasn't causing that. Does anyone else have any experience with this setup? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: double RIv sighting in Carrboro
I really miss Carrboro... I want to move back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: double RIv sighting in Carrboro
Hi Seth, Maybe I'll say hey to them next time I see them, although the nice bike conversation can be a bit awkward... Yes, I live in Carrboro. I have an xo-3 painted orange and a black kogswell P/R, but I'm more often seen pushing a stroller. I have been dying to get out and ride more, and I especially want to map out some mixed terrain rides. Let me know if you are interested in riding sometime. neil On Jun 28, 8:40 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Neil Anderson neilanderson...@gmail.com wrote: I saw his and hers Rivs last evening in Carrboro, NC. An AHH and a Betty Foy, I think. Anyone's on here? I don't know if he's on the list - but I think the guy's name is blake and I don't think I ever got the owner of the betty foy's name. But I ran into them a while back at weaver st, too. Nice bikes. Neil, Are you around the triang NC-area? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 56 Waterford canti Sam Hill, now at more reasonable price, WITH RACK and WITHOUT SPANINGA H-LIGHT.
Perhaps you are right. I'll ride it more --tho' if somone jumps up and offers me $2.200 I'll jump right back. It's the overall front wheel floppiness that annoys me; the rest is perfectly adequate if not exceptional. I do know that I am often more impulsive than clever. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:47 PM, CCX chive...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Patrick, I can't help but think that you might be rushing into this. How about giving Sam five more rides. Now I know you are a clever guy, with lots of miles in your legs, but it is my feeble opinion that you might need to give it a bit more of a go. It is a great bike. Throw a set of your favorite wheels on it and give it a go- just one for the kipper. (and take the damn fenders off, you live in albar-turkey desert) ;-) If it was a 54 or so I'd buy it for a friend. JC On Jun 27, 11:49 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Price reduced, you get the Sanyo halogen, Logo rack added -- it won't fit my Monocog, sob, snuffle, but I do have a disk specific rack for the M already. Fully dressed, for $2,200 shipped, professionally boxed. I have put fewer than 200 miles on it; I don't know how many Riv put on it, but it was basically as new except for a couple of paint chips and scuffs on the seatpost where it had been inserted. 2009 (I think; this was the Riv floor model) Waterford built (with cantis) 56 cm Sam HIll, built as follows: Riv budget wheelset with Velocity rims, DEORE hub -- not LX -- (at least, I think it's Deore; it is one or t'other) in rear and Jack Brown 33.33 mm Greens. Front hub is Shimano DN72 hub powering SANYO HALOGEN headlight. Gearing is idiosyncratic six on a 7 sp fh body; yes, I changed out the 8 for a seven. It's currently 15-17-19-21-24-28-32 with Sugino XD triple, 46-36-26, for High of about 84, cruising gear of about 66 with 46 in direct line with the 19, and a low of about 22. I estimate a wheel with overall diameter of about 27 1/2. Derailleurs are LX, rear reverse pull, shifted by wholly excellent Riv silver bar end shifters. Seatpost, stem and bar (46 cm Noodles) are Nitto. Saddle is a Turbo. Pedals are Shimano A530s Tubus Logo Rack. Braze ons for rear rack, fork has braze ons only for mini rack (ie, the eyelets are about 9 from dropout eyelets), but I will include a NIP Tubus clamp useful for at least Tara lowriders. I don't know what the bb bearings and hs bearings are; but they are as new. Velo Orange 45 mm wide aluminum fenders (IMO sturdier than, and certainly longer and lighter than, SKS or Zefals or PBs) Velo Orange 2-leg stand. Cheap but strong aluminum bottle cages. Avenir (I think) computer. Rear Spanninga 2AAA fender mount tail light with Spanninga LED headlight, the new $38 one at Velo Orange. Photo herehttp:// picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#54786659502072... Note: Pump, seatpost mounted flasher NOT INCLUDED. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
Finished my second century on my Sam, the century leg of the MS 150 in Cache Valley, Utah. Once again, many comments about the Sam including several people who asked me how old it was. One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. I didn't notice any other Rivs on the ride, which was odd considering the number of people participating. This was my first time on the north loop of this event, which winds from Logan, Utah through dairy country and small towns in into Idaho. Anyone looking for a neat charity ride could do a lot worse. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: double RIv sighting in Carrboro
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Neil Anderson neilanderson...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Seth, Maybe I'll say hey to them next time I see them, although the nice bike conversation can be a bit awkward... Yes, I live in Carrboro. I have an xo-3 painted orange and a black kogswell P/R, but I'm more often seen pushing a stroller. I have been dying to get out and ride more, and I especially want to map out some mixed terrain rides. Let me know if you are interested in riding sometime. I'm in durham - but if you want to meet up at an equidistant location - how about meeting up at the weaver st market in hillsborough. It's either 12 or 17 miles for me - depending on which route I take and they have an excellent brunch. It's 15miles - from weaver st in carrboro to weaver st in hillsborough (taking dairyland up to dodson's crossing) Not a big ride - but nice and somewhat scenic - and well populated by bikes. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
Nice ride story. The part about the guy thinking the bike is from the 60's leaves me thinking the following: Did bikes from the 60's have: upward sloping toptubes with 6 degree angles? multiple rack braze-ons, especially the midfork and midstay ones? 135 mm rear spacing that allows 9 or 10 speed clusters? headtubes with upward vertical extension for height? cable-stops that allow discontinuous cable housing? vertical rear dropouts? (I actually don't know the answer to this) Were most of the features above even common in the 90's? I usually get the comment that my Ram is an older bike but people don't say from when. Once in a while, the person has thought before they said this, and they say something right on target like, I'm noticing your bike: it's interesting in that it looks like an old classic, but all the details show modern components. This is my favorite comment. The former, however, saddens me a little, because it fails to notice the innovative spirit behind the design of the bike: the spirit that equally values all good bike developments, whether they happened two minutes ago or 2 score years ago. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Darin G. dbg...@mac.com about the Sam One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifters and SRAM cassette
From Riv site concerning the Silver shifters: FLASH! SRAM's 9sp mountain rear derailers don't seem to work with this shifter. The movement of the derailer changes dramatically from the 8th to the 9th position. Why'd they do that? Anyway--just don't use these with that derailer. OK, now back to the description: Maybe there is an issue with the cassettes as well??? C On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:03 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, its a 9 speed chain. I used it briefly, perhaps a couple of hundred miles on the shimano cassette before installing the SRAM, it worked fine. On Jun 28, 10:00 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Are you sure you have the correct chain? Sounds like it may be too wide, which could cause it to engage the ramps on the cogs too soon and shift early. —Eric N On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:55 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: After five years my Rambouillet is getting a makeover. First change was swapping out the Sugino triple for the White double with 44/30 rings and switching to an 11-28 SRAM cassette. I have always had great shifting with the silver shifters and ultegra cassettes. With the Shimano I often shift across multiple cogs and will almost always have the chain land exactly where I want it. With the SRAM I am constantly searching for the sweet spot and sometimes I can't find it at all. At first I assumed it was me, and that the cassette merely shifted differently and I would get the feel of it. But I have found that even in the shop, especially in the middle of the cassette, I have a very hard time trimming the rear derailleur. The chain moves early, and if I stop shifting there it will jump back. But it is still easy to overshift. I have checked the rear derailleur, a Centaur medium cage, and don't see any problem with it. The chain is a nearly new Connex which shows only .25 on my Park chain tool. The D ring on the shifter was very tight and I have tried loosening it to give me more control. On the repair stand, even when I don't get any noise I can still feel a slight notchyness in the setup. I removed the chain to make certain that the BB wasn't causing that. Does anyone else have any experience with this setup? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email toFLASH! SRAM's 9sp mountain rear derailers don't seem to work with this shifter. The movement of the derailer changes dramatically from the 8th to the 9th position. Why'd they do that? Anyway--just don't use these with that derailer. OK, now back to the description: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: double RIv sighting in Carrboro
Werd up to all the piedmont Riv-people.. used to live in Chatham County and frequented Carrboro regularly. What a land of Velo milk-n'- honey it is, It sure must be nice to not have cars whizzing by you at 50 MPH constantly. I recently moved to Greensboro and am figuring out the substantially more sprawly scene here, plenty of folks on the road though. All of us triangle-triad Rivvers need to get it together for the Tarwheels Bikefest or some such similar event... we sure do stick out like sore thumbs amidst the lyrca contingent,.. - Mike On Jun 28, 10:34 am, Neil Anderson neilanderson...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Seth, Maybe I'll say hey to them next time I see them, although the nice bike conversation can be a bit awkward... Yes, I live in Carrboro. I have an xo-3 painted orange and a black kogswell P/R, but I'm more often seen pushing a stroller. I have been dying to get out and ride more, and I especially want to map out some mixed terrain rides. Let me know if you are interested in riding sometime. neil On Jun 28, 8:40 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Neil Anderson neilanderson...@gmail.com wrote: I saw his and hers Rivs last evening in Carrboro, NC. An AHH and a Betty Foy, I think. Anyone's on here? I don't know if he's on the list - but I think the guy's name is blake and I don't think I ever got the owner of the betty foy's name. But I ran into them a while back at weaver st, too. Nice bikes. Neil, Are you around the triang NC-area? -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
I had three great rides this weekend: 1) Halfmoon Bay (in California) down to the Tunitas Creek climb 2) A loop around San Luis Obispo 3) the absolute best-of-all: a ride with my brother and his 5.8-year-old son on the Santa Clara bike path. It was flat and was probably about 6 miles total. (We rode by the Great America roller coasters.) Here is why it was the best ride: My nephew had learned to ride the day before. He spent Friday morning learning to negotiate a complicated loop near his house, and every once in a while had spontaneous pure-joy outbursts like, It's great to ride without training wheels! This is the best! and I love donuts! After all that training, we raised the bar by going out on the public use trail. He got really good at holding his course and stayed to right and learned to pass people on the left (using his bell) and he had the best time. There is nothing better than riding with a kid on a steep learning curve and having a blast discovering the exploring you can do in a bike. And Rivendell-connection: Many years ago, they reviewed some learning bikes that teach kids balance on wide tire bikes without training wheels and without pedals. The idea is that the kid learns to get the feel for the balancing process on a moving bike so that they experience the gyroscope effect but don't have their balance-feeling process interrupted by the training wheels. My nephew's experience: he had had some training wheel experience with its typical ineffectiveness. He then started to ride one of these learning bikes described above. After using the learning bike for a little while, one day (last Thursday specifically) he picked up a regular bike with pedals when no one was looking and decided to see if he could get the balance on that. He started doing it in the drive way, wobbly figuring it out himself, but certainly getting it up to speed and pedaling it on his own. My brother was in the kitchen cleaning up, looked outside and noticed what his son was doing. He excitedly grabbed the camera nearby, ran outside, and started filming. A day and a half later, my nephew was ready for the trail. One thing I love about all of this was that there was no coaxing or frustrating teaching from adults who want it so bad for their kid. Maybe they were lucky; maybe he's gifted, but I'm pretty sure the learning bike did the job for which it was designed. Thanks for reading. I had to share and since the learning bike was in the RR, I found a loophole to share with this list! -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-hillborne/ Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
Looks great! Who did the work? I'm going to get my Atlantis repainted this fall. I hope it turns out as nice as yours did! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and light feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels reluctant to surge. Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think. Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years. Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58 usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose). Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it in March. PAM On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-hillborne/ Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
on 6/28/10 9:04 AM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I had three great rides this weekend: 1) Halfmoon Bay (in California) down to the Tunitas Creek climb 2) A loop around San Luis Obispo 3) the absolute best-of-all: a ride with my brother and his 5.8-year-old son on the Santa Clara bike path. It was flat and was probably about 6 miles total. (We rode by the Great America roller coasters.) Here is why it was the best ride: My nephew had learned to ride the day before. He spent Friday morning learning to negotiate a complicated loop near his house, and every once in a while had spontaneous pure-joy outbursts like, It's great to ride without training wheels! This is the best! and I love donuts! I'm pretty sure this qualifies as the best Monday post in memory. Thanks for sharing your nephew's discovery. Long may he ride! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
Hi Patrick, I have a house full of cargo bikes including a Civia Loring, Yuba Mundo, and Surly Long Haul Trucker; the Hillborne is much livelier than any of those tanks.. ;-) Seriously, when I say lively I'm thinking more in terms of frame compliance than weight. The LHT is a good bike to use for comparison because it's very popular and similar in configuration to the Hillborne; the Surly is much stiffer and, to me, has a dead feeling in comparison. In this sense, the Hillborne is indeed lively (at least in the 60cm size). I'm surprised at your comment regarding the steering - I find it perfectly spot on. Were you, by chance, running a heavy load in the rear? Enjoy your new bike - I hope it ends up working out for you. Regards, Alan On Jun 28, 9:41 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and light feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels reluctant to surge. Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think. Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years. Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58 usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose). Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it in March. PAM On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-... Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
As we all know , everthing is relative. As another Sam H owner ( 56cm ) I would not describe the handling as lively myself, more like a big stable sedan. Easy to steer, rock solid, but fun to ride. I'm running the 38mm Marathon Racers, which add to the stable feeling, but they seem to roll very fast for a tire of that width. I prefer a 58cm bike too.. but on this bike I'm running my B17 way back on a VO seatpost with 30mm of setback and a Pearl 9 ( really 97mm) stem about a cm below seat height and it just feels perfect. ~Mike~ On Jun 28, 10:28 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, I have a house full of cargo bikes including a Civia Loring, Yuba Mundo, and Surly Long Haul Trucker; the Hillborne is much livelier than any of those tanks.. ;-) Seriously, when I say lively I'm thinking more in terms of frame compliance than weight. The LHT is a good bike to use for comparison because it's very popular and similar in configuration to the Hillborne; the Surly is much stiffer and, to me, has a dead feeling in comparison. In this sense, the Hillborne is indeed lively (at least in the 60cm size). I'm surprised at your comment regarding the steering - I find it perfectly spot on. Were you, by chance, running a heavy load in the rear? Enjoy your new bike - I hope it ends up working out for you. Regards, Alan On Jun 28, 9:41 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and light feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels reluctant to surge. Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think. Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years. Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58 usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose). Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it in March. PAM On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-... Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
Shaun, I sent the frame back to Rivendell, they had their local painter do the work. Jay at Rivendell handles the repaints now. It is not a Joe Bell type paint job; it is a nice paint job but not one fancy enough to make me paranoid. Angus On Jun 28, 11:08 am, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Who did the work? I'm going to get my Atlantis repainted this fall. I hope it turns out as nice as yours did! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
Yeah well, I wish it was going so well for my 3.5yr old grandaughter, Kiana. She has a Skuut, the crankless wooden bike sold by REI. She hates it. Really...hates it. Go put that away Grandpa! She wants a training wheel bike SOOO bad. This doesn't fit into my plans for here to learn to glide and balance, then add in the pedaling. I know best about bikes, right? :~} I am about to go look for a used training-wheels bike for her. So I am jealous of your nephew's day of discovery. On Jun 28, 10:04 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I had three great rides this weekend: 1) Halfmoon Bay (in California) down to the Tunitas Creek climb 2) A loop around San Luis Obispo 3) the absolute best-of-all: a ride with my brother and his 5.8-year-old son on the Santa Clara bike path. It was flat and was probably about 6 miles total. (We rode by the Great America roller coasters.) Here is why it was the best ride: My nephew had learned to ride the day before. He spent Friday morning learning to negotiate a complicated loop near his house, and every once in a while had spontaneous pure-joy outbursts like, It's great to ride without training wheels! This is the best! and I love donuts! After all that training, we raised the bar by going out on the public use trail. He got really good at holding his course and stayed to right and learned to pass people on the left (using his bell) and he had the best time. There is nothing better than riding with a kid on a steep learning curve and having a blast discovering the exploring you can do in a bike. And Rivendell-connection: Many years ago, they reviewed some learning bikes that teach kids balance on wide tire bikes without training wheels and without pedals. The idea is that the kid learns to get the feel for the balancing process on a moving bike so that they experience the gyroscope effect but don't have their balance-feeling process interrupted by the training wheels. My nephew's experience: he had had some training wheel experience with its typical ineffectiveness. He then started to ride one of these learning bikes described above. After using the learning bike for a little while, one day (last Thursday specifically) he picked up a regular bike with pedals when no one was looking and decided to see if he could get the balance on that. He started doing it in the drive way, wobbly figuring it out himself, but certainly getting it up to speed and pedaling it on his own. My brother was in the kitchen cleaning up, looked outside and noticed what his son was doing. He excitedly grabbed the camera nearby, ran outside, and started filming. A day and a half later, my nephew was ready for the trail. One thing I love about all of this was that there was no coaxing or frustrating teaching from adults who want it so bad for their kid. Maybe they were lucky; maybe he's gifted, but I'm pretty sure the learning bike did the job for which it was designed. Thanks for reading. I had to share and since the learning bike was in the RR, I found a loophole to share with this list! -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Old Rivendells
James Warren asked: The part about the guy thinking the bike is from the 60's leaves me thinking the following: Did bikes from the 60's have: upward sloping toptubes with 6 degree angles? multiple rack braze-ons, especially the midfork and midstay ones? 135 mm rear spacing that allows 9 or 10 speed clusters? headtubes with upward vertical extension for height? cable-stops that allow discontinuous cable housing? vertical rear dropouts? snip [This] saddens me a little, because it fails to notice the innovative spirit behind the design of the bike: the spirit that equally values all good bike developments, whether they happened two minutes ago or 2 score years ago. --- James, it¹s all about the lugs ‹ or ³pipe joints,² as I hear them called frequently. They recognize lugs as being the indicator of an old bike, as nearly no new bikes use such quaint artifacts today, so I'll be usually it's a right guess. Modern attributes you mention above are invisible to most casual observers (no disrespect intended; we all have our areas of interest). They notice those those lugs, though, don¹t they? -- Jon ³Papa² Grant, most of whose bikes have pipe joints, in hot Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hard to Let Go
Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for one- see where she was going with these questions... eventually though, it was obvious, she wanted to go solo herself. We put it off for weeks, months, and then we ran out of excuses and such: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624241117087/ It was beyond difficult for me, sort of for my wife [but she's tougher than I], and an adventure into the first steps of independence for Chloe. **Rivendell Content** Chloe has been in the Reader a couple times, and she believe in 'Steel as well as cloth tape hemp twine... not to mention, Friction Shifting. So, there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. dougP On Jun 28, 7:51 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Finished my second century on my Sam, the century leg of the MS 150 in Cache Valley, Utah. Once again, many comments about the Sam including several people who asked me how old it was. One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. I didn't notice any other Rivs on the ride, which was odd considering the number of people participating. This was my first time on the north loop of this event, which winds from Logan, Utah through dairy country and small towns in into Idaho. Anyone looking for a neat charity ride could do a lot worse. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
On Jun 28, 8:28 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Nice ride story. The part about the guy thinking the bike is from the 60's leaves me thinking the following: Did bikes from the 60's have: upward sloping toptubes with 6 degree angles? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. multiple rack braze-ons, especially the midfork and midstay ones? Yes. 135 mm rear spacing that allows 9 or 10 speed clusters? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. Can you tell 135mm from 130mm or 126mm just by looking? headtubes with upward vertical extension for height? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. cable-stops that allow discontinuous cable housing? Very common on bikes up through the late 1970s. vertical rear dropouts? (I actually don't know the answer to this) Not readily apparent to a casual observer. Were most of the features above even common in the 90's? While I understand that a Riv owner might experience some consternation that their expensive bike might be mistaken for a less expensive older model, I don't think one can really fault a casual observer. After all, Rivendells do look like older bikes in many ways -- it's hard to deny that. J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hard to Let Go
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for one- see where she was going with these questions... eventually though, it was obvious, she wanted to go solo herself. We put it off for weeks, months, and then we ran out of excuses and such: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624241117087/ It was beyond difficult for me, sort of for my wife [but she's tougher than I], and an adventure into the first steps of independence for Chloe. **Rivendell Content** Chloe has been in the Reader a couple times, and she believe in 'Steel as well as cloth tape hemp twine... not to mention, Friction Shifting. So, there! Congrats to Chloe! She'll be the one planning your bike tours before long. I was nervous the first time i let my kid ride around the block solo earlier this year, glad i can put off the first long solo trip for a little while yet. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
on 6/28/10 1:29 PM, doug peterson at dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. Thanks to Gino, I now tell 'em ...it's an aught-six on the Quickbeam, or aught-eight on the Hilsen. You can literally watch the gears resetting on their brains while they ponder the variables in that statement. Of course, always said with a smile... ;^) On Sunday's loop, while wading through swoopy carbon frames, passing through the Nicasio store for some fluids, someone said my bike (QB) looked ready for L'Eroica. I think he gets extra points for context. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4739898371 - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
on 6/28/10 1:29 PM, juarez at juarez@gmail.com wrote: While I understand that a Riv owner might experience some consternation that their expensive bike might be mistaken for a less expensive older model, I don't think one can really fault a casual observer. After all, Rivendells do look like older bikes in many ways -- it's hard to deny that. I think that's part of the fun of owning one. I find it funny that folks who see barend shifters and round-tubed-frames assume an older bicycle. Always feel like I have the opportunity to broaden someone's awareness when they say that. But, I'm not sure I agree with your point about the price tag being the issue. That didn't seem to be implied or implicit in the OP's comment. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hard to Let Go
Good for her! How old is she? Man, I remember wandering the neighborhood alone -- small, almost rural Prince George's County, MD (near Surattsville) Clinton, MD -- when I was five or six. No one thought anything of it in 1960. (I do remember a creepy man asking me to show him the way to a small nearby factory, at least I think it was a factory.) But of course there is http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ I must say that I'd have a hard time letting Catie -- just turned 9 -- stray far from my sight, but so far she hasn't asked and I'll deal with it when she does. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for one- see where she was going with these questions... eventually though, it was obvious, she wanted to go solo herself. We put it off for weeks, months, and then we ran out of excuses and such: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624241117087/ It was beyond difficult for me, sort of for my wife [but she's tougher than I], and an adventure into the first steps of independence for Chloe. **Rivendell Content** Chloe has been in the Reader a couple times, and she believe in 'Steel as well as cloth tape hemp twine... not to mention, Friction Shifting. So, there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
multiple rack braze-ons, especially the midfork and midstay ones? Yes. Certainly on the (none to common) Constructeurs. Some other models, I am sure had them as well. Multiple rack braze ons were, however not all that common, even on some bikes popular for touring. On Jun 28, 3:29 pm, juarez juarez@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 28, 8:28 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Nice ride story. The part about the guy thinking the bike is from the 60's leaves me thinking the following: Did bikes from the 60's have: upward sloping toptubes with 6 degree angles? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. multiple rack braze-ons, especially the midfork and midstay ones? Yes. 135 mm rear spacing that allows 9 or 10 speed clusters? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. Can you tell 135mm from 130mm or 126mm just by looking? headtubes with upward vertical extension for height? Not readily apparent to a casual observer. cable-stops that allow discontinuous cable housing? Very common on bikes up through the late 1970s. vertical rear dropouts? (I actually don't know the answer to this) Not readily apparent to a casual observer. Were most of the features above even common in the 90's? While I understand that a Riv owner might experience some consternation that their expensive bike might be mistaken for a less expensive older model, I don't think one can really fault a casual observer. After all, Rivendells do look like older bikes in many ways -- it's hard to deny that. J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hard to Let Go
My daughter (14) just started a summertime babysitting job that involves riding several miles to an from our friends' house every Monday. I showed her the route once, and she does it on her own now. Needless to say, we're very proud of her. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Good for her! How old is she? Man, I remember wandering the neighborhood alone -- small, almost rural Prince George's County, MD (near Surattsville) Clinton, MD -- when I was five or six. No one thought anything of it in 1960. (I do remember a creepy man asking me to show him the way to a small nearby factory, at least I think it was a factory.) But of course there is http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ I must say that I'd have a hard time letting Catie -- just turned 9 -- stray far from my sight, but so far she hasn't asked and I'll deal with it when she does. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for one- see where she was going with these questions... eventually though, it was obvious, she wanted to go solo herself. We put it off for weeks, months, and then we ran out of excuses and such: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624241117087/ It was beyond difficult for me, sort of for my wife [but she's tougher than I], and an adventure into the first steps of independence for Chloe. **Rivendell Content** Chloe has been in the Reader a couple times, and she believe in 'Steel as well as cloth tape hemp twine... not to mention, Friction Shifting. So, there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hard to Let Go
She's 10 [going on 35yrs old]. Latest Update: Minutes ago, Dad, wouldn't it be a hoot to ride from Oregon to Pennsylvania to visit Grandpa... by myself?! Me, Ahh, no. Not for me it wouldn't be. -Scott On Jun 28, 2:55 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Good for her! How old is she? Man, I remember wandering the neighborhood alone -- small, almost rural Prince George's County, MD (near Surattsville) Clinton, MD -- when I was five or six. No one thought anything of it in 1960. (I do remember a creepy man asking me to show him the way to a small nearby factory, at least I think it was a factory.) But of course there is http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ I must say that I'd have a hard time letting Catie -- just turned 9 -- stray far from my sight, but so far she hasn't asked and I'll deal with it when she does. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for one- see where she was going with these questions... eventually though, it was obvious, she wanted to go solo herself. We put it off for weeks, months, and then we ran out of excuses and such: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624241117087/ It was beyond difficult for me, sort of for my wife [but she's tougher than I], and an adventure into the first steps of independence for Chloe. **Rivendell Content** Chloe has been in the Reader a couple times, and she believe in 'Steel as well as cloth tape hemp twine... not to mention, Friction Shifting. So, there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hard to Let Go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSGM3ZTP2nw On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:20 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: She's 10 [going on 35yrs old]. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hard to Let Go
Whoops! Seems that Gigi is not about the kind of little girls that I had in mind! Sorry! On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSGM3ZTP2nw On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:20 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: She's 10 [going on 35yrs old]. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
Sorry I didn't see get to see you and your Sam. I haven't seen any Rivs here in Utah yet, but I know they're out there. I've frequently been told that my Riv is in great shape for such an old bike. I used to explain that it's only about five years old and then I'd launch into the whole story. Their eyes glaze over pretty quickly. So now I mostly smile and say Thanks! I rode the 75 on Sunday on my Sekai. Left the Ram at home for a change, not sure why. Saw quite an interesting cross-section of bikes, but no other steel bikes as far as I could tell. Lots and lots of carbon - plastic bikes, of course. And the charity rides always bring out the folks with older hybrid bikes and mountain bikes who figure they can do 25 or 40 miles if they go slow enough. And of course they seem to be having way more fun than the speedy boyz with their racy bikes and their heartrate monitors. The route up the canyon towards Hardware Ranch was really lovely. Once we came back down and rejoined the smaller loop the route was nice but unspectacular. Brian Park City On Jun 28, 8:51 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Finished my second century on my Sam, the century leg of the MS 150 in Cache Valley, Utah. Once again, many comments about the Sam including several people who asked me how old it was. One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. I didn't notice any other Rivs on the ride, which was odd considering the number of people participating. This was my first time on the north loop of this event, which winds from Logan, Utah through dairy country and small towns in into Idaho. Anyone looking for a neat charity ride could do a lot worse. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
The boy next door, about 2.5 years old now, has been riding one of the scoot bikes for a long time. I picked up a kids bike from somewhere for free and everytime he comes over, he checks it to see if he's grown enough to ride it. He's just about able to make it go but can't quite handle the coaster brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
What a nice thing to do! René On 6/28/10, Jeff Perry jeff.pe...@gmail.com wrote: The boy next door, about 2.5 years old now, has been riding one of the scoot bikes for a long time. I picked up a kids bike from somewhere for free and everytime he comes over, he checks it to see if he's grown enough to ride it. He's just about able to make it go but can't quite handle the coaster brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
So this guy may have been more savvy than I thought. Always kinda wondered about that 2. dougP On Jun 28, 1:44 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis Name
Seth Vidal said: bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv --- There was an Atlantis before, but I thought I¹d read that the 2 reflected Grant¹s assertion that the Rivendell Atlantis was the second best bike on the planet, after the Rivendell custom. -- Jon But I'm Old, and I Could Be Wrong Grant, in hot, dark, stormy Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Noodles, and....
Hi all I'm interested in buying Nitto Noodles (46cm) Also could use a Technomic deluxe 11cm or 12cm Thanks in advance EJG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Name
Yeah, if you Google Bridgestone Atlantis, you'll find Jim's record of the Riv Reader that describes and shows the Bridgestone model. The other place I had seen Atlantis in the Bridgestone context was in reference to the XO-1 fork crown. On Jun 28, 6:48 pm, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Seth Vidal said: bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv --- There was an Atlantis before, but I thought I¹d read that the 2 reflected Grant¹s assertion that the Rivendell Atlantis was the second best bike on the planet, after the Rivendell custom. -- Jon But I'm Old, and I Could Be Wrong Grant, in hot, dark, stormy Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
This post has got to be on my top 5 list for this group -- which is saying a lot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple
I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is Shimano's Ultegra with a 50-39-30. Anyone know of another option? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple
Is it lower gears you're after? Could do one of the Shimano MTB cranks with 48/36/24 or 44/32/22. On Jun 28, 10:36 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is Shimano's Ultegra with a 50-39-30. Anyone know of another option? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Remember those learning bikes in the Rivendell Reader? Success Story here
What a great story, Jim! Mojo - don't sweat her learning the 'right' way. If training wheels get her on a bike, she'll learn to ride it. My kid rode training wheels for about six months, and took them off when he was 4 1/2 (Memorial Day weekend, in fact). That summer he rode all the way around Angel Island. At Toy Fair (Interbike for toys) I saw a product: a kids' bike wheel with a gyro inside to keep the bike upright. Just the wheel cost as much as a really nice Skuut. And you couldn't pass it down, because the battery wears out and can't be replaced. Philip 97128 On Jun 28, 11:10 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah well, I wish it was going so well for my 3.5yr old grandaughter, Kiana. She has a Skuut, the crankless wooden bike sold by REI. She hates it. Really...hates it. Go put that away Grandpa! She wants a training wheel bike SOOO bad. This doesn't fit into my plans for here to learn to glide and balance, then add in the pedaling. I know best about bikes, right? :~} I am about to go look for a used training-wheels bike for her. So I am jealous of your nephew's day of discovery. On Jun 28, 10:04 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I had three great rides this weekend: 1) Halfmoon Bay (in California) down to the Tunitas Creek climb 2) A loop around San Luis Obispo 3) the absolute best-of-all: a ride with my brother and his 5.8-year-old son on the Santa Clara bike path. It was flat and was probably about 6 miles total. (We rode by the Great America roller coasters.) Here is why it was the best ride: My nephew had learned to ride the day before. He spent Friday morning learning to negotiate a complicated loop near his house, and every once in a while had spontaneous pure-joy outbursts like, It's great to ride without training wheels! This is the best! and I love donuts! After all that training, we raised the bar by going out on the public use trail. He got really good at holding his course and stayed to right and learned to pass people on the left (using his bell) and he had the best time. There is nothing better than riding with a kid on a steep learning curve and having a blast discovering the exploring you can do in a bike. And Rivendell-connection: Many years ago, they reviewed some learning bikes that teach kids balance on wide tire bikes without training wheels and without pedals. The idea is that the kid learns to get the feel for the balancing process on a moving bike so that they experience the gyroscope effect but don't have their balance-feeling process interrupted by the training wheels. My nephew's experience: he had had some training wheel experience with its typical ineffectiveness. He then started to ride one of these learning bikes described above. After using the learning bike for a little while, one day (last Thursday specifically) he picked up a regular bike with pedals when no one was looking and decided to see if he could get the balance on that. He started doing it in the drive way, wobbly figuring it out himself, but certainly getting it up to speed and pedaling it on his own. My brother was in the kitchen cleaning up, looked outside and noticed what his son was doing. He excitedly grabbed the camera nearby, ran outside, and started filming. A day and a half later, my nephew was ready for the trail. One thing I love about all of this was that there was no coaxing or frustrating teaching from adults who want it so bad for their kid. Maybe they were lucky; maybe he's gifted, but I'm pretty sure the learning bike did the job for which it was designed. Thanks for reading. I had to share and since the learning bike was in the RR, I found a loophole to share with this list! -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple
Truvativ makes triple cranks with external cups. I don't know a lot about their merits, though. I know they are OEM equipment on lots of bikes. On Jun 28, 8:36 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is Shimano's Ultegra with a 50-39-30. Anyone know of another option? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried White Industries Urban Pedal?
I am interested in getting this combo, but I was wondering about your comment re: dirty shoes. I've noticed that when I put a Sigg bottle in my Nitto stainless cages there are stains from the contact, so I'm wondering does stainless steel also stain shoes, or is that ONLY with the Ti? It seems like an awesome combination, but I'd rather not make my good riding shoes gnarly... Also, if anyone who's got these pedals could post the dimensions of them that'd be great. I got expensive Tiogas once and couldn't stand them because of the tiny size after a while. On Jun 8, 9:48 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Ginz: I find the Whites flip so easy I don't even think about it anymore. It just happens. No photos at the moment and my camera battery is dead. At rest the pedals are not upside down. The flip point is maybe 7 or 8 degrees beyond perpendicular. If you do not mind dirty shoes (and do not mind paying a whole heck of a lot more money) the Ti BG clips are lighter than the stainless steel. I have a set and with them on at rest the pedal is almost perpendicular. I actually prefer when the tab is angled a bit forward (and did not like my shoes with half clip marks on them) so I put the Ti clips in a box somewhere and now use the BG steel clips. (With luck some weight weenie just read this sentence and dropped the computer) On Jun 8, 7:38 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Jeff and Joel, Are theWhite'sTHAT easy to get into? I'm tired of struggling with the tiny flip tab on my MKS pedals. I just checked out the Bruce Gordon site. Nice stuff! Joel, do you have any photos of yourWhite/Bruce Gordon clip set-up?! When your foot is removed, do the pedals flip upside down completely, or does the flip end point to the sky? Is it easy to get into at that position? Thanks, Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and light feeling of the front end ... just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my possession Read that and had to respond, likewise, regarding the handling of my 1998 Longlow. In all other respects it is a wonderful ride. However, I ride my circa 70's Bertin far more than the Longlow, although the Longlow has taken me across the USA. Only once in ten years of riding the Bertin have I dismounted after a ride and not said to myself, boy, I love this bike. I don't know, there's something about those Reynolds 531 French bikes. I ride the Bertin no-hands easily. I've never ridden the Longlow no-hands. I still wouldn't part with the Rivendell Longlow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple
Campagnolo makes several, but they'll be 10 or 11 speed. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:36 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is Shimano's Ultegra with a 50-39-30. Anyone know of another option? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Name
on 6/28/10 7:41 PM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, if you Google Bridgestone Atlantis, you'll find Jim's record of the Riv Reader that describes and shows the Bridgestone model. The other place I had seen Atlantis in the Bridgestone context was in reference to the XO-1 fork crown. ahhh...ya beat me to the post: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/#bridgestoneatlantis -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Three T-shirts Now Available: I've Got Downtube Shifters... S/S T-shirt Cyclocross - More Cowbell L/S T-shirt One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
on 6/28/10 6:11 PM, doug peterson at dougpn...@cox.net wrote: So this guy may have been more savvy than I thought. Always kinda wondered about that 2. Dunno... I don't think there were ever a lot of the original Atlantii around. Maybe he was thrown off by the not-quite-celeste color scheme. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
