Re: [RBW] Online Readers
on 7/31/10 7:54 AM, Shaun Meehan at meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if Jim (or anyone else) has put the links to the online Rivendell Readers (pdf files) in one place for easy accessibility? I'm behind in my Reader reading and looking for the links. Thanks! Thanks for the reminder. I had 'em mirrored, but never posted a link - http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/#readers They were also on the Rivendell site - http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/rivendell-readers/24-072 - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ms Foy for my wife
On Jul 20, 12:52 pm, MobileBill bud...@mindspring.com wrote: 2) She has a low tolerance for complicated shifters, and it's unlikely she will need a wide gear range _ but I'm not keen on 8-speed internal hubs. Any thoughts on whether an 8-speed cassette with single chainring in front can be set up to suit the needs of an occasional, inexperienced rider? First kudos for buying your wife a nice bike. Second, I can empathize with the problem around shifting, my wife had the same resistance to this learning. But I have simplified it for her. I installed bar end shifters on her bike and she has learned to understand them because the direction of the shifter matches the direction of the chain movement. This is not true with any STI or grip shifting or even DT shifting. Lift the shifter and lift the chain - that gets reinforced much more quickly than trying to figure out an STI shifter. Silvers work great but a 9 speed set up with the Dura Ace will also be pretty simple and reliable. We're in VT so a single ring wont work, but I have set her bike up with a 46/36/26. She spends about 90% of her time in the 36, 9% in the 26, and about 1% in the 46; so she has very little front shifting to do. The 36 with a 13-28 7 speed is pretty nearly all she needs or wants, but starting from scratch I would choose 9 speed for her. My Rambouillet is set up with a 44/30 dbl and an 11-28, 9 spd cassette. With a HG cassette I get very smooth friction shifts and I also rarely shift out of the 44. I only drop the ring on hills that are over a mile and more than 7%. I use the White VBC, which is beautiful and expensive, but you can duplicate this set up with a mt bike crank, or use an inexpensive sugino with a chain guard for a big ring. I'll bet she would like the chain guard. Interesting though, now that we have a tandem my wife rarely wants to ride her Sequoia. keep the rubber side down, and remember the sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up. michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewItempt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item41519bf362#ht_500wt_1154 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
Welcome to EBay, where sellers of all kinds appear able to list and sell goods at far more than what one would consider a normal value. I saw one used Sturmey Archer AW hub listed for $149 when NOS units go for $25 and a brand new hub will cost about $75. They think that the brand name justifies some vast increase in price. Steve On Aug 1, 6:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
I used one of thos Nittos on a tour on my Atlantis and it worked great. Nary a scratch. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver Angus, that looks great! By Nitto thing are you referring to the Nitto Wire Guard that Rivendell is selling? This one: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-wire-guard/20-189 How do you like it? Does it gouge the stays the way the Silver Hupe does? I hope not. I'm thinking of picking one up. Anyway, great Atlantis. Looks like it's back in time to get out for some late summer camping/touring trips. --miketext - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
Hi, The older Rivendell catalogs (No.3) listed the B-17 they were selling at the time as A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B-17. Doesn't that mean the saddle was a unique product? Or was Rivendell ad copy just false? Ebay is a free-market thing, you can ask what ever price you want, you may get it. How many iPhones were sold at a marked up price? Cheers! On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Steve wrote: Welcome to EBay, where sellers of all kinds appear able to list and sell goods at far more than what one would consider a normal value. I saw one used Sturmey Archer AW hub listed for $149 when NOS units go for $25 and a brand new hub will cost about $75. They think that the brand name justifies some vast increase in price. Steve On Aug 1, 6:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
Hi, The older Rivendell catalogs (No.3) listed the B-17 they were selling at the time as A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B-17. Doesn't that mean the saddle was a unique product? Or was Rivendell ad copy just false? Yeah, and how much did Riv charge for the saddle? Brooks made (and continues to make) many special edition saddles. They rarely rise to the level of collectors items. New in the box, perhaps, an older Brooks SE may be worth what a brand new Brooks sells for. Not nearly $60.00 more. Ebay is a free-market thing, you can ask what ever price you want, you may get it. You are arguing free-market is more important than free speech? How many iPhones were sold at a marked up price? Equally silly. Albeit there is a cachet among certain crowds for being the very first to have something desirable. I am not aware of any such cachet for over paying for something. On Aug 1, 9:38 am, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hi, The older Rivendell catalogs (No.3) listed the B-17 they were selling at the time as A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B-17. Doesn't that mean the saddle was a unique product? Or was Rivendell ad copy just false? Ebay is a free-market thing, you can ask what ever price you want, you may get it. How many iPhones were sold at a marked up price? Cheers! On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Steve wrote: Welcome to EBay, where sellers of all kinds appear able to list and sell goods at far more than what one would consider a normal value. I saw one used Sturmey Archer AW hub listed for $149 when NOS units go for $25 and a brand new hub will cost about $75. They think that the brand name justifies some vast increase in price. Steve On Aug 1, 6:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ms Foy for my wife
If you do go with a 1x8 or 1x9 set up, do not forget a chain keeper. Couple of chain slips on solo rides and your wife will likely park the Foy forever. Paul makes a nice one, but there are others on the market: http://paulcomp.com/ckclamp.html On Jul 20, 11:52 am, MobileBill bud...@mindspring.com wrote: In a fit of spousal munificence, I am postponing plans to buy a Bombadil so that I can get my wife a Betty Foy. She's unlikely to turn into a long-distance rider, but hope I'll have her along for a few miles of store hopping and socializing (over flat ground). Your comments on these matters are much appreciated: 1) My wife has the long-legged, short-body proportions of many females, with PBH that's probably going to land in the low to mid-80s (a 58 cm frame) but an upper body that may be better suited to shorter virtual top tube (the 52 cm frame, which to my eye, has the more elegant tube angles). Any observations on the slack in the Betty Foy's two frame sizes (is frame size relatively less important with these bikes than with, say, the AHH/Saluki)? 2) She has a low tolerance for complicated shifters, and it's unlikely she will need a wide gear range _ but I'm not keen on 8-speed internal hubs. Any thoughts on whether an 8-speed cassette with single chainring in front can be set up to suit the needs of an occasional, inexperienced rider? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Cyclelicious
Magaling! On Jul 31, 10:33 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: On my way back from San Diego I was approached by a guy who wanted to take a picture of me. I found out it was the same blogger who doe Cyclelicious! http://www.cyclelicio.us/2010/manny-and-his-rivendell-bleriot/ -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
If anyone finds scratches from these types of supports, check the rubbery stuff. It wears gets torn. Tool dip is a rubbery stuff in a can that can be used to re-coat the surfaces that touch the bike. dougP On Aug 1, 7:19 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I used one of thos Nittos on a tour on my Atlantis and it worked great. Nary a scratch. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver Angus, that looks great! By Nitto thing are you referring to the Nitto Wire Guard that Rivendell is selling? This one: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-wire-guard/20-189 How do you like it? Does it gouge the stays the way the Silver Hupe does? I hope not. I'm thinking of picking one up. Anyway, great Atlantis. Looks like it's back in time to get out for some late summer camping/touring trips. --miketext - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------ To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ======- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Online Readers
Thanks Jim! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the price, whose problem is that? I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the Seller has available presently (mine is marked 6D9). Since I'm not using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more than what I paid! In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower price. Is this fair? By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money from another source. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] F.S. 50cm Soma Mixte complete bike
Rene: What a lovely bike! I can see using this as a grocery getter, etc. Sadly, I am not in your area. I'd take it if I were. I'm sure you'll sell it easily. Best regards Bruce From: Rene valbu...@ix.netcom.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 12:41:35 PM Subject: [RBW] F.S. 50cm Soma Mixte complete bike I hope it is okay to post this. Calling all Bay Area members of the RBW Owners Bunch. I am selling my 50cm Soma Mixte for $650 pick up here in San Jose. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ms Foy for my wife
LOL Looking forward to the pictures of the Foy. FWIW here's what the basket looks like in the wild http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/3981262357/in/set-72157622516710346/ On Jul 31, 7:14 pm, MobileBill bud...@mindspring.com wrote: Roadieryan truly grasps the complexity of this issue. As he predicted, my wife lept over the discussion of eccentric hubs and chain tensioning and is now fully focused on the details of the Eleven81 wicker basket, which she declares a stunning example of a bike basket. Given that I'll be doing the tire changing, at least initially, I'm biased toward the rear derailleur set-ups (though I spent many happy hours of my youth banging up a 3-speed Hercules). Thanks all for your comments. On Jul 26, 12:02 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: +1 on the 1x9 mentioned earlier. Unless you have really big hills a 1x9 with a 11-34 and a 40t ring ought to cover your wife in most instances. Now to the important stuff, get a nice basket for the front of Mz. Foy. I built up a mixte for my wife last year for her 40th and what she loves most about her bike is the Eleven81 wicker basket with QR. Great for errand runs or long rides in the country that require a picnic stop. Have fun, I am sure your wife will love the Foy. On Jul 25, 12:26 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Do keep us updated on your build. I may be undertaking the exact same exercise in a few months. My early vote is for 1x8 though I could see a granny ring being a relationship saver. On Jul 25, 9:45 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Sure. Probably a few weeks. But given my entirely self-taught and fraught-with-trial-and-error mechanical skills, no guarantee it will be right the first time From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Ms Foy for my wife Could you post a photo of your setup, as well as the Q measurement, when you have the bb and crankset assembled? Thanks. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.commailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Yes but only w/ external bearings. Google Forward Compenents blogspot. Just ordered one for installation of a Rohloff hub in my Bombadil -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bu...@goomailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at(212) 735-3000and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. === === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. As I have I both selling and buying. That is what auctions are all about. What caught my attention with this sale however, is the seller set the initial price $55.00 above what a new B-17 costs. Again, if the saddle is unused and still in special edition box, maybe it is worth a mark up. Still not sure about a $55.00 mark up, but whatever. If I were selling that saddle, I would put the base price at $70.00 and feel really good if bidding brought it up to $120.00. As it is, I will be real surprised if the saddle sells. Stranger things have happened. On Aug 1, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the price, whose problem is that? I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the Seller has available presently (mine is marked 6D9). Since I'm not using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more than what I paid! In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower price. Is this fair? By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money from another source. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS 54cm Saluki
54cm Saluki F/F/Ultegra HS, Diacompe centerpull brakes, Utility wheelset Nexave hubs laced 3 x 32 to Zac 19 hoops. Nothing special but they are in excellent shape. No skewers. The frame is like new. No chips, scratches or marks of any kind. The only way you'll get one nicer is to buy one new. Butterscotch in color. I'll be glad to send pictures but as I stated there is not a blemish on this bike. Asking $1200 shipped in the CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
Joel, Without dragging this discussion too much further, one comment I'd make pertaining to the item that the seller is offering on eBay is that it's not the same as the current Brooks B.17 models. The description in my Rivendell No. 3 catalog (Summer 1997) for the Brooks B.17 saddle that Rivendell was selling at the time reads as follows (Grant's words, I would assume): The prettiest saddle in the world, and the most comfortable we've sat on. A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B.17 with Brooks Pro-thick honey brown leather, large hand- set copper rivets, chromed rails, and a chamfered lower edge. Two things stand out in that description versus the current models of the B.17. One is Pro-thick..leather, the other is chromed rails. The current models of the B.17 are frequently mentioned in various forums as having poorer quality leather in the saddle which is not as durable as the earlier Brooks B.17. The current saddles are reported as sometimes wearing out before they are broken in (this has specifically been mentioned by Jan Heine). In addition, if someone wants a chrome rail B.17 they definitely can't purchase a new one from Rivendell, or anyone else for that matter. I agree with you, by the way, that price the Seller is asking on eBay appears too high. It may, however, have some justification to be described as a special model (they were never sold in some nifty box, by the way). Jim Cloud On Aug 1, 1:10 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. As I have I both selling and buying. That is what auctions are all about. What caught my attention with this sale however, is the seller set the initial price $55.00 above what a new B-17 costs. Again, if the saddle is unused and still in special edition box, maybe it is worth a mark up. Still not sure about a $55.00 mark up, but whatever. If I were selling that saddle, I would put the base price at $70.00 and feel really good if bidding brought it up to $120.00. As it is, I will be real surprised if the saddle sells. Stranger things have happened. On Aug 1, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the price, whose problem is that? I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the Seller has available presently (mine is marked 6D9). Since I'm not using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more than what I paid! In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower price. Is this fair? By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money from another source. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell on Cyclelicious
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[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
If you take a look at the enlarged pictures, it looks like the leather is already cracking around the rear rivetshmmm. Angus On Aug 1, 3:40 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Joel, Without dragging this discussion too much further, one comment I'd make pertaining to the item that the seller is offering on eBay is that it's not the same as the current Brooks B.17 models. The description in my Rivendell No. 3 catalog (Summer 1997) for the Brooks B.17 saddle that Rivendell was selling at the time reads as follows (Grant's words, I would assume): The prettiest saddle in the world, and the most comfortable we've sat on. A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B.17 with Brooks Pro-thick honey brown leather, large hand- set copper rivets, chromed rails, and a chamfered lower edge. Two things stand out in that description versus the current models of the B.17. One is Pro-thick..leather, the other is chromed rails. The current models of the B.17 are frequently mentioned in various forums as having poorer quality leather in the saddle which is not as durable as the earlier Brooks B.17. The current saddles are reported as sometimes wearing out before they are broken in (this has specifically been mentioned by Jan Heine). In addition, if someone wants a chrome rail B.17 they definitely can't purchase a new one from Rivendell, or anyone else for that matter. I agree with you, by the way, that price the Seller is asking on eBay appears too high. It may, however, have some justification to be described as a special model (they were never sold in some nifty box, by the way). Jim Cloud On Aug 1, 1:10 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. As I have I both selling and buying. That is what auctions are all about. What caught my attention with this sale however, is the seller set the initial price $55.00 above what a new B-17 costs. Again, if the saddle is unused and still in special edition box, maybe it is worth a mark up. Still not sure about a $55.00 mark up, but whatever. If I were selling that saddle, I would put the base price at $70.00 and feel really good if bidding brought it up to $120.00. As it is, I will be real surprised if the saddle sells. Stranger things have happened. On Aug 1, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the price, whose problem is that? I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the Seller has available presently (mine is marked 6D9). Since I'm not using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more than what I paid! In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower price. Is this fair? By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money from another source. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
The description in my Rivendell No. 3 catalog (Summer 1997) for the Brooks B.17 saddle that Rivendell was selling at the time reads as follows (Grant's words, I would assume): The prettiest saddle in the world, and the most comfortable we've sat on. A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B.17 with Brooks Pro-thick honey brown leather, large hand- set copper rivets, chromed rails, and a chamfered lower edge. Aware of this. But Brooks produces many special editions. In fact, there currently are a number of new in box special editions offered (at a discount by the way) by other sellers on eBay. My issue is not with the seller pointing out the Riv connection. But rather the implication the mere mention of Rivendell will cause buyers to part with sense and sensibility. I for one like to think Riv fans are smarter than the average bear and will not blithely over pay for something just because the seller says Rivendell. On Aug 1, 3:40 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Joel, Without dragging this discussion too much further, one comment I'd make pertaining to the item that the seller is offering on eBay is that it's not the same as the current Brooks B.17 models. The description in my Rivendell No. 3 catalog (Summer 1997) for the Brooks B.17 saddle that Rivendell was selling at the time reads as follows (Grant's words, I would assume): The prettiest saddle in the world, and the most comfortable we've sat on. A spiffed up (just for Rivendell) B.17 with Brooks Pro-thick honey brown leather, large hand- set copper rivets, chromed rails, and a chamfered lower edge. Two things stand out in that description versus the current models of the B.17. One is Pro-thick..leather, the other is chromed rails. The current models of the B.17 are frequently mentioned in various forums as having poorer quality leather in the saddle which is not as durable as the earlier Brooks B.17. The current saddles are reported as sometimes wearing out before they are broken in (this has specifically been mentioned by Jan Heine). In addition, if someone wants a chrome rail B.17 they definitely can't purchase a new one from Rivendell, or anyone else for that matter. I agree with you, by the way, that price the Seller is asking on eBay appears too high. It may, however, have some justification to be described as a special model (they were never sold in some nifty box, by the way). Jim Cloud On Aug 1, 1:10 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. As I have I both selling and buying. That is what auctions are all about. What caught my attention with this sale however, is the seller set the initial price $55.00 above what a new B-17 costs. Again, if the saddle is unused and still in special edition box, maybe it is worth a mark up. Still not sure about a $55.00 mark up, but whatever. If I were selling that saddle, I would put the base price at $70.00 and feel really good if bidding brought it up to $120.00. As it is, I will be real surprised if the saddle sells. Stranger things have happened. On Aug 1, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the price, whose problem is that? I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the Seller has available presently (mine is marked 6D9). Since I'm not using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more than what I paid! In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower price. Is this fair? By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money from another source. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will sell you one new: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Curious Rivendell Tie In on eBay
From the subject line on this thread, I was expecting a link to an eBay listing for a necktie bearing the Rivendell logo. Which would indeed be curious, since that's one item I could never imagine RBW selling! :) Got carried away with the caps. On Aug 1, 5:02 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: From the subject line on this thread, I was expecting a link to an eBay listing for a necktie bearing the Rivendell logo. Which would indeed be curious, since that's one item I could never imagine RBW selling! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Cyclelicious
That's what can happen when go on tour. People are intrigued by someone on a bike who's obviously traveling some distance. Being on a bike you are approachable voila, start of conversation. It's a bunch of fun. Manny, it sounds like you had such a great time, my guess is you're hooked on touring now. dougP On Aug 1, 3:19 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Great picture!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
