Re: [RBW] So if you had a day to visit Rivendell then go for a ride...

2010-09-08 Thread nawrock


Head up Diablo, for sure.  There are many options to go off the pavement on 
your way up or down.  Descending Diablo on pavement is so awesome! 
Have fun, 

Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 6:50:45 PM 
Subject: [RBW] So if you had a day to visit Rivendell then go for a ride... 

Where would you go? 

I am going to be in the area this Thursday through till next Wednesday 
and want to set aside a day for a ride. I already spoke to Jay at 
Rivendell and taking a demo is no problem. 

My initial thought was to ride in/near/up Mt. Diablo. I have seen so 
many beautiful pictures of the area posted here it's hard to not want 
to go there. I also understand it's quick to access from RBW 
headquarters? 

I am thinking my best 2 possible days will be Monday or Tuesday. I 
would much prefer trails to roads. Something maybe 30-40 miles? Out 
and back from RBW would be optimal. I am not scared of climbing or 
rough stuff, but it does not have to epic. 

Any recommendations would be great, or if someone is planning a 
similar ride I would love to meet up too. Obviously want to work in 
some Riv visit time as well. 

Thanks! 
Brad 

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[RBW] Re: Jean Desbois (Cycles Rene Herse) 1924-2010

2010-09-08 Thread Angus
Thank you for sharing this with us Jan.

It does feel like an era of great bicycles  people has slipped away
from us a bit this year.

Angus

On Sep 7, 5:39 pm, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Jean Desbois, builder of many of the finest Rene Herse frames and
 components, died last week near Paris, France. He was cremated
 yesterday, Sept. 6, 2010, in the presence of a small circle of family
 and friends.

 Desbois was the chief framebuilder for Rene Herse during the 1940s and
 1950s, when the company made some of the finest randonneur bicycles
 ever made. Rene Herse bicycles were ridden by the fastest riders in
 Paris-Brest-Paris 1951, 1956, and 1966. Herse won the prestigious
 Challenge des Constructeurs for the three best-placed riders in
 every PBP from 1948 to 1966.

 Desbois apprenticed as an ajusteur-tourneur (machine shop fitter) in
 Levallois-Perret, just outside the city limits of Paris. During World
 War II, Paris was occupied by the German army, and the Germans were
 deporting skilled machine personnel to work in German armament
 factories. To avoid this, Jean sought different employment in November
 1941. He looked at the Rene Herse shop, where two fine bicycles were
 on display in the shop window. Herse had started to make bicycles in
 1940 with a single employee. Lyli Herse remembered seeing Jean
 Desbois, who still was a shy teenager: He stood outside the shop, and
 my mother asked me to find out what he wanted. So I went outside,
 brought him in, and my father asked him whether he wanted a job.

 Jean quickly moved up the ladder at the Herse shop, first making small
 parts like the cable hanger rollers for the Speedy brakes, then
 cutting and finishing the brakes themselves as well as the chainrings,
 before making stems and finally learning to braze the frames. By the
 end of 1945, he was the best-paid of the seven workers at the Herse
 shop.

 Desbois stayed with Herse until the early 1950s, when he felt he could
 earn more money elsewhere. He first drove taxicabs, then worked in the
 mechanical industry. Desbois returned to Herse in April 1975. After
 Rene Herse's death in 1976, Desbois married Herse's daughter Lyli.
 Together, they continued to run the shop until 1984.

 Jean Desbois was the last of a generation of artisans who worked in
 post-war Paris during the Golden Age of Handbuilt Bicycles, where they
 created some of the finest bicycles ever made.

 For a few photos of Desbois and of his work, see

 http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/whatisnew.html

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 2116 Western Ave.
 Seattle WA 98121http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com

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[RBW] corrected url

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce
It was thoughtfully pointed out to me that I failed to type the complete blog 
address yesterday, for casual browsers who might want to see Joan, Steve and I 
in action. The blog entry also contains a couple of typos, which may or may not 
be fixed when you see it. I'm on the way out to meet my cousin for a ride.

Tailwinds

www.fullylugged.blogspot.com 



  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread James Warren


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The Roadeo is a stunning accomplishment, when you think about it.


I know. With its 700x33+fenders clearance and versatility to put the bars high 
or low, I can't imagine a better road bike for unloaded purposes. 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread James Warren

The Rambouillet also has the best name ever given to a bike.


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From: Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
Sent: Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

The Rambly might be 1/2 degree slacker, the Roadeo fits bigger tires and uses 
a slightly lighter tubeset I believe...if I didn't have a Rambly already (and 
too many other bikes as well) the Roadeo would be on my (very) short list!  I 
do slightly prefer the Rambouillet headbadge and graphics but not enough to be 
a single deciding factor.

Steve

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:49 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell


Rambouillets show up from time to time in my size in good shape. They
have similar geometry to Roadeo's?

On Sep 7, 7:46 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 It sounds like I'd +1 the Roadeo or Rambu course, then.

 On Sep 7, 4:40 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:



   Are you going to use drop bars on this next Riv?  Do you have a drop
   bar bike now?

  My Bleriot has drops, my MB-2 has Bullmoose.   Drops are my favorite
  bars so at least for now I don't think I would choose anything else.

  $2k is not a deal breaker.  It sounds like you guys confirm my initial
  feelings.

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[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread sjauch
Roadeo and you can get it painted any color you want for no extra
charge. So you can get that orange you like.

On Sep 8, 9:40 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 The Rambouillet also has the best name ever given to a bike.



 -Original Message-
 From: Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
 Sent: Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

 The Rambly might be 1/2 degree slacker, the Roadeo fits bigger tires and 
 uses a slightly lighter tubeset I believe...if I didn't have a Rambly 
 already (and too many other bikes as well) the Roadeo would be on my (very) 
 short list!  I do slightly prefer the Rambouillet headbadge and graphics but 
 not enough to be a single deciding factor.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:49 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

 Rambouillets show up from time to time in my size in good shape. They
 have similar geometry to Roadeo's?

 On Sep 7, 7:46 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  It sounds like I'd +1 the Roadeo or Rambu course, then.

  On Sep 7, 4:40 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

Are you going to use drop bars on this next Riv?  Do you have a drop
bar bike now?

   My Bleriot has drops, my MB-2 has Bullmoose.   Drops are my favorite
   bars so at least for now I don't think I would choose anything else.

   $2k is not a deal breaker.  It sounds like you guys confirm my initial
   feelings.

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[RBW] Re: Jean Desbois (Cycles Rene Herse) 1924-2010

2010-09-08 Thread Jan Heine
On Sep 8, 3:06 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Thank you for sharing this with us Jan.

 It does feel like an era of great bicycles  people has slipped away
 from us a bit this year.

Yes, with Ernest Csuka (Cycles Alex Singer) and Jean Desbois (Cycles
Rene Herse) no longer, we definitely lost two of the most
knowledgeable sources of information from the Golden Age of the
French constructeurs. Fortunately for us, these old masters have been
willing to share their knowledge in recent years, unlike the past,
where they considered it trade secrets. I suspect if I had asked
Rene Herse in 1970 how he made his stems or why he chose certain
geometries, he wouldn't have told me... Now much information is
available for the new generation of builders who are picking up the
torch - mostly in the U.S., but not yet in Europe.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
2116 Western Ave.
Seattle WA 98121
http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com

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[RBW] Bleriot in Bristol, TN

2010-09-08 Thread Kris
Did I see what appeared to be a rather large Bleriot cruising down the
main drag in Bristol on Saturday of this past weekend?  I was on my
way to the Shenandoah 100 cutting through Bristol.

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[RBW] Re: Jean Desbois (Cycles Rene Herse) 1924-2010

2010-09-08 Thread JoelMatthews
  Now much information is available for the new generation of builders who are 
 picking up the
 torch - mostly in the U.S., but not yet in Europe.

Well and in Japan also.  Although some of the builders there are
getting on in years and experiencing currency problems as Rivendell
knows all to well.

It is one reason the sudden popularity of certain low cost - average
workmanship knock off sellers concerns me.  I certainly hope demand
for craft built product remains high enough so at least some of these
young builders keep at it.

Over the last year and a half we have already lost a few promising
U.S. builders to the need for the legal tender.  From what I hear,
there are others, one rather prominent, who are becoming quite hard to
reach lately.  Could be a lot of things but money problems forcing the
builder to take a job in a different business frequently turns out to
be the culprit.

But with today's news, let's not allow worries about tomorow distract
from remembering this all time great from years past.

On Sep 8, 9:21 am, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On Sep 8, 3:06 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  Thank you for sharing this with us Jan.

  It does feel like an era of great bicycles  people has slipped away
  from us a bit this year.

 Yes, with Ernest Csuka (Cycles Alex Singer) and Jean Desbois (Cycles
 Rene Herse) no longer, we definitely lost two of the most
 knowledgeable sources of information from the Golden Age of the
 French constructeurs. Fortunately for us, these old masters have been
 willing to share their knowledge in recent years, unlike the past,
 where they considered it trade secrets. I suspect if I had asked
 Rene Herse in 1970 how he made his stems or why he chose certain
 geometries, he wouldn't have told me... Now much information is
 available for the new generation of builders who are picking up the
 torch - mostly in the U.S., but not yet in Europe.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 2116 Western Ave.
 Seattle WA 98121http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com

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[RBW] e-Garage Sale #6

2010-09-08 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have yet more stuff I'd like to clear
out from my garage, so here's my new For Sale list (e-Garage Sale #6).
Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! First come, first
served.

Payment via Paypal only must be received within 12 hours. Thanks!

NOTE: All details and photos of ALL the items, plus relevant off-links
in some cases, are on my e-Garage Sale Webpage I keep this page up-to-
date, too, as regards what is still available, so check it before
contacting me.

http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html

Here is today's For Sale List (much more on the webpage!!!):

Dura Ace AX 170mm cranks with 42/52 rings. Note these do not say AX
on them, but they are the AX style. $60. (seven photos)

Dura Ace AX pedals, one complete pair intact. Note: I dismantled the
left pedal's bearing assembly, but all parts are there. $40. (two
photos)

Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brake Calipers: TWO rear brakes. Note I
have mounted rear brakes on the front many times, by simply sliding
the allen nut inside the steerer tube from the bottom, and bolting to
it there. MSRP is $65 for FR pair. My price: $20 each or $35 for the
pair.

Dura Ace AX 170mm right crank arm. $10.

Two left Dura Ace AX pedals. Note: one has AX on it and one doesn't,
but they are otherwise identical. $10 each or $15 for the pair.

Campy Nuovo Record rear derailleur with a Rally cage on it for wide-
range gearing. Pat. 81 very shiny and in excellent condition. Both
pulleys are cracked, however I am including a used but perfectly good
replacement pair, as shown in the following photo. (three photos):
$125

Ritchey Logic WCS saddle with titanium rails. 270mm long by 140mm
wide.

Campy Record front derailleur from 5-8 years ago, I believe. Almost no
use. Appears to be for a triple? Fits 28.6mm seat tube. $25. (two
photos)

Campy NR/SR brake lever mounting bands. Excellent condition. One has a
nut and washer, the other doesn't. $10.

Campy NR rear hub shell with dust rings. Excellent condition. Italy
35 x 24F, 32 holes. $20.

Campy SR front derailleur, braze-on, excellent condition. $40.

ONE Campy NR/SR shield logo brake hood in NOS condition. $10.

Campy NR brake calipers, front and rear, allen nutted, complete with
barrel adjusters. Rear pads have a lot of rubber left. Fronts are
worn, but still have some miles. Rear caliper has an E stamped on
its rear, which I don't recall seeing before. Rear has some rust on
the QR. $50. (four photos)

Campy pedals with Campy toe clips. I believe these are the
Superleggeri style, commonly sold with NR/SR groups. Very good
condition. Toe clips appear to be size large and have a bit of rust
and such. Cages have little to no wear, end caps are nice, axles spin
smoothly. $50.

Campy PISTA crank arms, left and right, 165mm in EXCELLENT, near MINT
condition. That's right, the track version of this beautiful crank!
Includes Suntour Superbe 52-tooth ring in essentially unused condition
and Campy chainring fixing bolts (deduct $20 if you don't want the
ring; deduct $10 if you don't want the bolts). Left arm has no date
code; right has 2 within a circle. $250 (three photos)

Campy NR/SR STRADA right only crank arm, 175mm, date code 0 within a
circle, in near excellent condition (just a bit less shiny on the
pedal end of the arm). $100. (three photos)

Campy NR/SR STRADA left only crank arm, 172.5mm, date 0 within a
circle, in excellent condition. $50 (two photos)

Campy NR/SR STRADA crank arms, left and right, 172.5mm, no date codes,
in very good to excellent condition (see some scuffing in photos).
Includes 43-tooth Nuovo Record chainring and non-Campy ring fixing
bolts (or deduct $20 if you don't want the ring and bolts). $195.
(three photos)

Campy NR/SR STRADA crank arms, left and right, 175mm, no date codes.
These seem to have been polished on a wheel, which has smoothed out
the fluting. Also, there are two tiny cracks, perhaps 1mm deep, one on
each side of the intersection of the spider and the right arm (I can
try to photograph them if you want photos). I hadn't noticed these
before. I know many people will ride them like this; others will take
a file and remove a bit of metal there to prevent the crack from
spreading. That's your call. NOTE: DUST CAPS NOT INCLUDED. $150.

NOTE RE: CAMPY: I have several NR botom brackets, NR  SR Seat Posts,
and NR  SR Chainrings in a variety of sizes. Please inquire, plus I
will post the details in my next list.

Suntour Micro-Lite Freewheel, 7-speed, 12-22, extremely little use.
It's crazy how light it is. $95. (three photos)

Mavic brake calipers (Modolo, badged as Mavic), allen nutted, short
reach, complete with barrel adjusters and relatively low use pads.
Dark gray anodized. $40.

Modolo Equipe brake calipers, allen nutted, short reach, complete with
barrel adjusters and relatively low use pads. Very dark gray anodized.
$40.

Ritchey WCS 4-Axis Carbon Matrix Stem, 90mm length and fits 31.8mm bar
diameter. Excellent, low-mileage, torque 

[RBW] Re: 15 second Quickbeam gear change

2010-09-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Just slidin'.
My flippin' time is a flippin' disgrace.

The two gears are both on the same side of the bike: two rings 3t
apart, two cogs 4t apart.

I was out with the dog, and did a gearchange for the heck of it and it
was over before I knew it. That took like 15 seconds!
The next morning I headed out to work, and realized I was still in the
low gear. I jumped off and timed the change, and sure enough - 15
seconds from touching the QR lever to leaping back into the saddle.

Dirty fingers, though. I haven't figured out a good way to 'roll' the
chain onto the ring and cog, since it's a fixed gear. With a freewheel
I guess if I slid the axle forward, and resecured the QR with room for
the tire to turn, and rolled the whole bike forward to drop the
chain... I'll try that next time.

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Sep 7, 10:46 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 9/7/10 11:19 AM, Philip Williamson at philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's it. Two-time personal best.
  Single-sided double-fixed drivetrain. 39/42 rings, 17/21 Surly
  dingle cog.

 Are ye flippin'?  Or just slidin'?

 - J

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[RBW] Re: Salsa Fargo (nicely equipped) for Sale

2010-09-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Eric:

Is that article available?  Would love to read it.. (I'm a new
subscriber, so I don't have any back issues).

I also am building up a blue 1982 1/2 ?? first generation Stumpy frame
(Tim Neenan signature) into a nice commuter... I'm not really looking
to restore this with original parts; rather I'll generally keep it
within the period, since I don't have the original parts to begin
with, but also I think I can build it up as good if not better than
what came on it.  I have a beautiful set of silver Deore XT hubs (late
80s) that I plan to lace to Saturae X28 rims, and I have a nice Stumpy
slingshot stem and bars (more like from '85).  I have Specialized
headset and BB; still working on a proper crankset, but will likely
use Suntour XC shifters and derailleurs, and Deore (Deerhead) brakes
and levers... This will be a bike that will last and last.. plus it
will ride oh so nicely.

I'll make sure to post pics once it's complete.
Peace,
BB

On Sep 7, 8:44 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Whew!  Too small for me.  Otherwise, I agree.  Probably the best
 bike.  And I owned the '84 (and '83) models.

 Riv content - the article on converting old mountain bikes in the
 Rivendell Reader used a 1985 Stumpjumper.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Sep 6, 1:35 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote:



  Fargo SOLD! to a tractor dealer in Southeastern Ohio... You know, I've
  always kinda fancied the Fargo as a good farm bike... It's going to a
  good owner in a good place...

  I still have a vintage 1985 StumpJumper, lugged, all original except
  tires for sale ($400 starting bid), in EXCELLENT condition. The 85 was
  my favorite (and best IMO) Stumpy... This makes a GREAT commuter, a
  kind of poor-man's Atlantis... I have a second one that I regularly
  ride... It's an extremely high quality ride, and the components they
  used in 1985 (Deore and Suntour XC were overbuilt and
  indestructable... nothing today comes close in my opinion (with rare
  exception).  Check it out on eBay (or give me a 
  shout).http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130428479180ssPag...

  This won't last.

  Peace,
  BB

  On Aug 30, 1:47 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Patrick:

   Well let's just say I'm hoping the price gets bid up in the vicinity
   of what I think this bike is worth (but that's always the risk with
   eBay).

   This combination is tough to beat. I fully plan on building up a
   similar set for my Bombadil, except minus the discs.

   BB

   On Aug 30, 11:29 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Darn good price for SON and Phil wheels; I hope mine ends up as good as 
yours.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Montclair BobbyB

montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate to part with it, but I fear the Fargo and the Bombadil might
 not get on with each other... I've ridden the Fargo for nearly two
 years, and loved every single ride... It's certainly a bike I would
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[RBW] Re: White Industries vbc road crank

2010-09-08 Thread Christian
Thanks for all the helpful replies.  I had been somewhat set on the
Sugino XD but I don't often use the middle ring so 44 or 46 and 26 or
28 would be good for me.  My local bike shop is a bit down on White
cranks--a bad experience, likes cold  forged better, etc.  But it's my
bike, so

Thanks again

Christian

On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have recently converted my Rambouillet from the stock Sugino triple
 to the White VCB, with 44/30 rings and an 11-28, 9 spd cassette. I am
 thrilled with them.  They look much better in real life than in the
 White web photos, and they work wonderfully.  This CD gives me a
 straight forward shifting patten, with the same hi gear as a 48/12 and
 nearly equal to a 28/27 at the low end.  I switched out both front and
 rear derailleurs.  In the front I replaced the good Shimano 105 with
 the Campy triple, which  has a shorter cage and can sit much closer
 to the 44 ring without hitting the chain stay.  The front end shifting
 is excellent.  In the rear, I replaced a very good Centaur medium cage
 with the new Ultegra 6700 RD.  The rear shifting with this set up is
 exceptional, not matter how much load I have on the drive train.

 Besides that, I like having US made parts.  If you really want a more
 traditional set up, White also makes a nice double / triple crank for
 Da Vinci, which like the TA has replaceable spiders.  I use that crank
 on both my tandem and touring bike and like it much more than the
 Sugino.

 Hope this helps your decision.

 Michael

 On Sep 6, 5:03 pm, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

  There have been several discussions that have included fleeting
  mention of this crank.  Are there folks out there using this
  crankset?  The ability to set up any gearing combination is, of
  course, quite appealing.  I do understand about being locked into the
  White Industries universe.

  Thanks

  Christian



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Re: [RBW] e-Garage Sale #6

2010-09-08 Thread CycloFiend
Hey there Chris - 

I may have misread your earlier post, but I thought one of these Garage
Sales was your last For Sale list.

Since it seems to be continuing on a regular basis, and most of the stuff is
no longer Rivendell related, I'd like to ask if you can scale back on these
posts, if not eliminate them altogether.

If you want to periodically post a pointer to your For Sale list on your
website, I think that's a bit more reasonable.  Or, if the items are
specific to the list topic - i.e. Rivendell items - you are welcome to list
them to the group.

Thanks,

- Jim / list admin

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[RBW] 56cm Atlantis frame/fork/headset/wheelset

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Williams
I have a 2007 56cm Atlantis frame/fork/headset for sale. Also I have A
really great wheelset/tires for sale as well. Mavic 719/XT 36h 26
Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Id like to sell them together. The bike
and wheelset are both used. Bike shows normal use from mounting racks,
chainsuck, a couple a paint chips. Wheels are very solid, completely
true and the hubs spin great. I love this bike, just realizing its too
small. Probably gonna get another Atlantis or maybe Hunq. Id like to
get $1750 for everything, but am open to negotiations. I can email
some pics if anyone is interested. thanks Mike

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[RBW] AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread Sean Whelan
Cyclofiend's last update seems to be from January: 
http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414

I am really really interested in this bike. Has anyone heard anything new? I am 
sure we are talking Mid 2011 now, right?

Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread William
If you call Riv Headquarters, I'm sure they'd be delighted to talk
with you.

1(800)345-3918



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 Cyclofiend's last update seems to be from 
 January:http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414

 I am really really interested in this bike. Has anyone heard anything new? I 
 am sure we are talking Mid 2011 now, right?

 Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Bleriot in Bristol, TN

2010-09-08 Thread clyde canter
Wasn't me, but it sounds like a pal of mine who rides a 61 'leriot
Clyde Canter
Bristol, Vaother side of the state line

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 Did I see what appeared to be a rather large Bleriot cruising down the
 main drag in Bristol on Saturday of this past weekend?  I was on my
 way to the Shenandoah 100 cutting through Bristol.

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Re: [RBW] AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/8/10 10:13 AM, Sean Whelan at strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Cyclofiend's last update seems to be from January:
http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414

I am really really interested in this bike. Has anyone heard anything new? I
am sure we are talking Mid 2011 now, right?


I would reckon - and this is absolute and pure conjecture - that SOMA
couldn't nail delivery for this year, and probably decided that they'd intro
it at Interbike (industry trade show on the immediate horizon) and go
forward with firm orders for 2011.

It's always been a SOMA project, as far as the distribution was concerned
(and hence a Merry Sales Co issue).   I'd expect that with the economy of
the last couple years, they would want to have it timed for maximum impact
and minimum exposure.  Having a container land in November, when none of
your dealers are buying much is a pretty big risk, as an example.

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread Mike
Jim, you looking to add to your quiver?

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[RBW] Re: White Industries vbc road crank

2010-09-08 Thread reynoldslugs
Not to complicate things... but another option is use the XD triple
and remove the outer chainring.  I've done this on one of my bikes, a
Gunnar Crosshairs, running it as a 26- 40 double.  It works well,
functions just like the White WR Double.  As they say in the
vernacular, it's all good.

On Sep 8, 8:52 am, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the helpful replies.  I had been somewhat set on the
 Sugino XD but I don't often use the middle ring so 44 or 46 and 26 or
 28 would be good for me.  My local bike shop is a bit down on White
 cranks--a bad experience, likes cold  forged better, etc.  But it's my
 bike, so

 Thanks again

 Christian

 On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:



  I have recently converted my Rambouillet from the stock Sugino triple
  to the White VCB, with 44/30 rings and an 11-28, 9 spd cassette. I am
  thrilled with them.  They look much better in real life than in the
  White web photos, and they work wonderfully.  This CD gives me a
  straight forward shifting patten, with the same hi gear as a 48/12 and
  nearly equal to a 28/27 at the low end.  I switched out both front and
  rear derailleurs.  In the front I replaced the good Shimano 105 with
  the Campy triple, which  has a shorter cage and can sit much closer
  to the 44 ring without hitting the chain stay.  The front end shifting
  is excellent.  In the rear, I replaced a very good Centaur medium cage
  with the new Ultegra 6700 RD.  The rear shifting with this set up is
  exceptional, not matter how much load I have on the drive train.

  Besides that, I like having US made parts.  If you really want a more
  traditional set up, White also makes a nice double / triple crank for
  Da Vinci, which like the TA has replaceable spiders.  I use that crank
  on both my tandem and touring bike and like it much more than the
  Sugino.

  Hope this helps your decision.

  Michael

  On Sep 6, 5:03 pm, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

   There have been several discussions that have included fleeting
   mention of this crank.  Are there folks out there using this
   crankset?  The ability to set up any gearing combination is, of
   course, quite appealing.  I do understand about being locked into the
   White Industries universe.

   Thanks

   Christian- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: White Industries vbc road crank

2010-09-08 Thread Marty
The latest pdf on the Riv site includes a small discussion on doubles/
triples. Scroll past the tweed...

http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/357/original_setiembre_ocho.pdf


On Sep 8, 4:23 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 Not to complicate things... but another option is use the XD triple
 and remove the outer chainring.  I've done this on one of my bikes, a
 Gunnar Crosshairs, running it as a 26- 40 double.  It works well,
 functions just like the White WR Double.  As they say in the
 vernacular, it's all good.

 On Sep 8, 8:52 am, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks for all the helpful replies.  I had been somewhat set on the
  Sugino XD but I don't often use the middle ring so 44 or 46 and 26 or
  28 would be good for me.  My local bike shop is a bit down on White
  cranks--a bad experience, likes cold  forged better, etc.  But it's my
  bike, so

  Thanks again

  Christian

  On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

   I have recently converted my Rambouillet from the stock Sugino triple
   to the White VCB, with 44/30 rings and an 11-28, 9 spd cassette. I am
   thrilled with them.  They look much better in real life than in the
   White web photos, and they work wonderfully.  This CD gives me a
   straight forward shifting patten, with the same hi gear as a 48/12 and
   nearly equal to a 28/27 at the low end.  I switched out both front and
   rear derailleurs.  In the front I replaced the good Shimano 105 with
   the Campy triple, which  has a shorter cage and can sit much closer
   to the 44 ring without hitting the chain stay.  The front end shifting
   is excellent.  In the rear, I replaced a very good Centaur medium cage
   with the new Ultegra 6700 RD.  The rear shifting with this set up is
   exceptional, not matter how much load I have on the drive train.

   Besides that, I like having US made parts.  If you really want a more
   traditional set up, White also makes a nice double / triple crank for
   Da Vinci, which like the TA has replaceable spiders.  I use that crank
   on both my tandem and touring bike and like it much more than the
   Sugino.

   Hope this helps your decision.

   Michael

   On Sep 6, 5:03 pm, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

There have been several discussions that have included fleeting
mention of this crank.  Are there folks out there using this
crankset?  The ability to set up any gearing combination is, of
course, quite appealing.  I do understand about being locked into the
White Industries universe.

Thanks

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[RBW] Rambouillet Rebuild Tire/Fender question

2010-09-08 Thread MichaelH
After six years, I was feeling like my Rambouillet was ready for some
updating.  Perhaps I was feeling adolescent and frisky as I approach
retirement in 3 months, but also I wanted to differentiate the Ram
more clearly from my commuter / tourer Ebisu. I wanted it lighter and
faster. I also wanted to put as many solid American made parts on the
bike as was practical. Over the summer, as time and funds have
permitted, I have been collecting parts.  Here's what I've done:

New wheels with White Hub and Mavic Rims - 36  32 spokes
White VCB Cranks in a 44/30 configuration, replaced the Sugino
triple.  Shimano 11-28 9 speed casette.
Paul's Racer M brakes - fantastic
Derailleurs got reversed! Front went from Shimano 105 to Campy CD; the
rear from Centaur Medium to the new Shimano RD 6700.
Nice, light, 2 bolt, silver American Classic Seat Post
Terry Ti Fly Saddle - has been OK on 2+ hour rides, but doubt it would
go further.
Continental Grand Prix 23mm tires.  A gift from my son and
surprisingly good on pavement, but not so hot on gravel.

I stayed with the Cane Creek levers, Fazik imitation leather tape,
Speedplay Frog pedals, and Nitto Noodle (46 cm) bars and delux stem.

I've probably forgotten something but here's pictures  description:
http://web.me.com/mhechmer/Mikes_Bikes/Ram_Redux.html
or just pictures at:
http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100094

Now for the question!

Before putting on the new brakes, I pulled off the 43 mm Honjo fenders
and cut off the protruding hanger bolt to create more tire clearance.
The brakes give a huge amount of clearance and I had hoped to fit 30
mm (actual) tires, but when I tested them they hit the front lip of
the fender.  Is anyone running 50 mm metal fenders on a ram  can you
fit a 30 mm tire under it?

Thanks,
Michael

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[RBW] Re: White Industries vbc road crank

2010-09-08 Thread MichaelH
I'm really happy to read that Riv. is taking an interest in CD set-
ups.  I agree that 16 tooth differences leads to slow shifting, but I
find that with the new cd derailleurs the 14 tooth difference shifts
quite well. The important thing is to have a FD that can get down low
next to a small ring. I also find that a 16 tooth set up leaves me
hunting for the next gear, which is somewhere down the other end of
the cassette.  A 10 tooth difference on a triple leave us just one cog
away from the next gear and a 14 is 2 cogs on a double.  The 12 tooth
seems always to be between gears.

BTW, I've never liked the looks of the replacement rings that  Riv
sells.  There are lots of nice looking rings out there, you don't have
to leap all the way to TA, if you don't want to.

Michael

On Sep 8, 7:53 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
 The latest pdf on the Riv site includes a small discussion on doubles/
 triples. Scroll past the tweed...

 http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/357/original_setiembre_ocho.pdf

 On Sep 8, 4:23 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:



  Not to complicate things... but another option is use the XD triple
  and remove the outer chainring.  I've done this on one of my bikes, a
  Gunnar Crosshairs, running it as a 26- 40 double.  It works well,
  functions just like the White WR Double.  As they say in the
  vernacular, it's all good.

  On Sep 8, 8:52 am, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

   Thanks for all the helpful replies.  I had been somewhat set on the
   Sugino XD but I don't often use the middle ring so 44 or 46 and 26 or
   28 would be good for me.  My local bike shop is a bit down on White
   cranks--a bad experience, likes cold  forged better, etc.  But it's my
   bike, so

   Thanks again

   Christian

   On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

I have recently converted my Rambouillet from the stock Sugino triple
to the White VCB, with 44/30 rings and an 11-28, 9 spd cassette. I am
thrilled with them.  They look much better in real life than in the
White web photos, and they work wonderfully.  This CD gives me a
straight forward shifting patten, with the same hi gear as a 48/12 and
nearly equal to a 28/27 at the low end.  I switched out both front and
rear derailleurs.  In the front I replaced the good Shimano 105 with
the Campy triple, which  has a shorter cage and can sit much closer
to the 44 ring without hitting the chain stay.  The front end shifting
is excellent.  In the rear, I replaced a very good Centaur medium cage
with the new Ultegra 6700 RD.  The rear shifting with this set up is
exceptional, not matter how much load I have on the drive train.

Besides that, I like having US made parts.  If you really want a more
traditional set up, White also makes a nice double / triple crank for
Da Vinci, which like the TA has replaceable spiders.  I use that crank
on both my tandem and touring bike and like it much more than the
Sugino.

Hope this helps your decision.

Michael

On Sep 6, 5:03 pm, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 There have been several discussions that have included fleeting
 mention of this crank.  Are there folks out there using this
 crankset?  The ability to set up any gearing combination is, of
 course, quite appealing.  I do understand about being locked into the
 White Industries universe.

 Thanks

 Christian- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Rebuild Tire/Fender question

2010-09-08 Thread rob markwardt
I'd say so.  I've got the 43mm Honjos and I run Marathon Racers (right
at 30) with plenty of room to spare.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/4719326085/

PS. Your bike looks great.

On Sep 8, 4:57 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 After six years, I was feeling like my Rambouillet was ready for some
 updating.  Perhaps I was feeling adolescent and frisky as I approach
 retirement in 3 months, but also I wanted to differentiate the Ram
 more clearly from my commuter / tourer Ebisu. I wanted it lighter and
 faster. I also wanted to put as many solid American made parts on the
 bike as was practical. Over the summer, as time and funds have
 permitted, I have been collecting parts.  Here's what I've done:

 New wheels with White Hub and Mavic Rims - 36  32 spokes
 White VCB Cranks in a 44/30 configuration, replaced the Sugino
 triple.  Shimano 11-28 9 speed casette.
 Paul's Racer M brakes - fantastic
 Derailleurs got reversed! Front went from Shimano 105 to Campy CD; the
 rear from Centaur Medium to the new Shimano RD 6700.
 Nice, light, 2 bolt, silver American Classic Seat Post
 Terry Ti Fly Saddle - has been OK on 2+ hour rides, but doubt it would
 go further.
 Continental Grand Prix 23mm tires.  A gift from my son and
 surprisingly good on pavement, but not so hot on gravel.

 I stayed with the Cane Creek levers, Fazik imitation leather tape,
 Speedplay Frog pedals, and Nitto Noodle (46 cm) bars and delux stem.

 I've probably forgotten something but here's pictures  
 description:http://web.me.com/mhechmer/Mikes_Bikes/Ram_Redux.html
 or just pictures at:http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100094

 Now for the question!

 Before putting on the new brakes, I pulled off the 43 mm Honjo fenders
 and cut off the protruding hanger bolt to create more tire clearance.
 The brakes give a huge amount of clearance and I had hoped to fit 30
 mm (actual) tires, but when I tested them they hit the front lip of
 the fender.  Is anyone running 50 mm metal fenders on a ram  can you
 fit a 30 mm tire under it?

 Thanks,
 Michael

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet Rebuild Tire/Fender question

2010-09-08 Thread Stuart Fletcher
Hi Michael,

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 16:57, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...]
 Is anyone running 50 mm metal fenders on a ram  can you
 fit a 30 mm tire under it?


I would say definitely yes the tires will fit.  Mostly because I have
a Rambouillet running 43mm fluted Honjos and 31mm (measured, just now)
Grand Bois Cypres and the clearance is good.  So a 30ish mm tire would
definitely fit under the fender.  My brakes (Mafac Racer) would
prevent me putting anything bigger than the 43s on it without breaking
out the file.  But I'm guessing those Pauls Racer Ms have a bit more
clearance, I haven't seen them in person myself (I'd like to!).

With a quick glance at my frame and the clearances (my frame is a 60cm
btw) the only place it looks like there might not be a comfortable
~4mm more clearance is at the chainstays near the BB.

Here's a photo of my Rambouillet, just to throw it out there.  Yours
is looking great!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ratrocket/4776284970/in/set-72157624126974480/

http://goo.gl/Zu2i (same photo as above)

Stuart Fletcher
Seattle, WA

 Thanks,
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