Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for front and rear lights to use with dyno hub

[Rene Sterental]

I just installed on my Atlantis a SON 28 Dyad 36 wheel Rich built for me
with SON Edelux and rode it for the first time today. It wasn't fully dark
so aside from enjoying how good it looks, and the Senso function, I'll have
to wait until it gets ligher later in the mornings and/or darker earlier in
the evenings to fully assess it.

I paired it to a Spanninga Plateo Rack Mount Battery Tail Light that I bough
from Velo Orange that also has the Senso function so even being battery
operated, when the bike is moving (not when it's stopped) and it's starting
to get dark, the tail light also lights up automatically. I have yet to
fully test it to understand for how long it stays lit (if at all) once the
bike stops, but I could assert today that when off, it will turn on when you
roll the bike.

It has a huge reflector and seems to be pretty bright, but it doesn't have a
blinker setting, which I've read is better as blinkers tend to draw the eyes
and where the eyes go the car goes, especially if the driver is impaired by
alcohol. I don't know if that is true, and for extra visibility I also carry
a PB super bright rear light clipped to my Sackville Medium Saddlebag.
Sometimes I set it up to blink, sometimes not...

Anyway, this being my first ever dynamo setting, I'm feeling pretty excited
and will be happy to share my experiences. The front/rear Senso feature is
awesome as it means I don't have to remember to turn the lights on or off,
just go riding... and know that if it starts getting darker they'll turn on
automatically.

René

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Re: [RBW] Mustache handlebars: XO-3 vs current Nitto bars

[Jason DeFontes]

The 1992 Bridgestone catalog describes the difference between the two types
of mustache bars they offered, the X0-1 type which used drop-bar levers and
bar-end shifters (the type that Riv sells now) and the X0-2+ type which used
MTB controls. It's on page 35 of the printed catalog, which is page 36 in
this PDF:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1992/1992.pdf

Sheldon:

"These bikes, especially the XO-1, are highly sought-after "cult" bikes
today. The XO-5 was more like a typical "hybrid" with 622 mm (700c) wheels
and a variant moustache handlebar with 22.2 mm (7/8") diameter, that used
"mountain bike" type controls. This model was rather too compromised. That
version of the moustache handlebar had fairly poor ergonomics with the
supplied controls."

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/index.html

-Jason


On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:14 PM, SJB  wrote:

> Once again, I find myself intrigued by mustache bars. I used to have a
> Bridgestone XO-3 that came with mustache bars. The B-stone bars fit a
> 25.4 stem and used mountainbike bike levers. The bars were okay, but
> not great for rides over 45 minutes.
> I'm thinking about getting some Nitto mustache bars, (the ones Riv
> sells,) for my fixed gear commuter. Can anyone tell me how different
> the B-stone bars are compared to the current Nitto bars? The shapes
> don't appear to be quite the same. I'm curious if anyone has real
> world experience with the two different mustache bars.
>
> Thanks
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[RBW] Re: Mustache handlebars: XO-3 vs current Nitto bars

[Bill]

I have a '94 XO-3 which I bought new back then and a Sam Hillborne
which I bought this year and equipped with new Riv moustache bars.
Both bars measure the same.  Both fit a 26.0 stem - I've played
musical handlebars on both bikes with other bars.  I find both to be
as comfy as all getout.  I had no trouble doing a 50-miler on the XO-3
recently even though the frame size is way too small for me.  I added
Velo Orange Dia Compe Knob Grips to the Sam bars halfway between the
brake levers and the stem, however I don't have enough miles on them
to have an opinion yet.  Once I crank out some long miles with them
I'll know.

Bill
Columbus, OH

On Oct 25, 11:14 pm, SJB  wrote:
> Once again, I find myself intrigued by mustache bars. I used to have a
> Bridgestone XO-3 that came with mustache bars. The B-stone bars fit a
> 25.4 stem and used mountainbike bike levers. The bars were okay, but
> not great for rides over 45 minutes.
> I'm thinking about getting some Nitto mustache bars, (the ones Riv
> sells,) for my fixed gear commuter. Can anyone tell me how different
> the B-stone bars are compared to the current Nitto bars? The shapes
> don't appear to be quite the same. I'm curious if anyone has real
> world experience with the two different mustache bars.
>
> Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Let's move this stuff: Sam Hill, Monocog, dyno wheelset with Jack Browns FS.

[ken s]

Can you shoot some pictures of Sam over to me to the above email
address please. Thanks! Ken


On Oct 26, 12:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Photos will be posted by Tuesday evening. Please email
> writeint...@gmail.com for details.. Serious offers only, please.
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hill frameset with parts, Waterford built, green, cantis,
> 56 cm, vg. Includes frame, fork, sp, stem (9 cm technomic), IRD cantis
> front and rear but no levers. Fork has lowrider brazeons added nicely
> by Dave Porter. I put only 200 miles on it, and it was Rivendell's
> floor model before that. $1100 OBO. NOTE THE OBO!!!.
>
> 2. Monocog frameset with parts: 2008 I think, M (17"), much modified
> by local builder thus: canti braze ons removed, fender and rack
> eyelets installed including nice strut across fork legs with tapped
> fender hole allowing good fender line on susp corrected fork. Tealy
> green powdercoat. Right stay crimped to allow larger chainring with
> good chainline. Includes sp, new Profile bb and hs, Profile upjutter
> stem, Road BB7 F/R calipers (front mounted for 185 rotor), 185 front
> rotor, OEM front and rear hubs. $250 OBO. Note that this bike takes
> 65s with plenty of room for fenders.
>
> 3. Wheelset (pair only) from Sam Hill: Basically RIvendell's cheap
> wheels with Velocities and Deore rear hub, thus modified: rear is 7
> (Seven) speed, not 8/9. Front hub is DN72 Dynohub. With Jack Brown
> Greens and tubes.
>
> Wheelset has my 200 miles and doubtless a few from Rivendell's
> tryouts. Dynohub has less than 100 miles. Included is Spanninga
> "Micro" LED headlight.
>
> $200 firm for set. Will not sell front only.
>
> --
> Patrick Moore
> Albuquerque, NM
> For professional resumes, contact
> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: Bar-end Cable Routing?

[Lynne Fitz]

The cables on one bike are routed up the handlebars and out the
center.  Does make it challenging to open my Acorn Bag.  On the other
bike, they pop out near the bottom.  No Acorn Bag interference.  Just
sayin'

Lynne F

On Oct 25, 5:42 pm, Dave Craig  wrote:
> Patrick:
>
> If you're running the cable housing outside of the tape, there's
> really no reason to have any part of it taped. My BE shifter cable
> housing runs from the pods to the DT cable stops completely outside of
> the tape. That would buy you a little more "tangle-free" area on the
> drops.
>
> Dave
>
> On Oct 25, 7:47 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Do you feel any additional friction so routing the cables? If not, I
> > may have to do this on the one bike with BES -- not that it's a huge
> > deal, but my fingers tend to get very slightly tangled in the housing
> > as it escapes from the tape just for'ard of the shifter pods (I ride
> > this bike in the hooks a good part of the time.)
>
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Montclair BobbyB
>
> >  wrote:
> > > Kevin:
>
> > > I always route them up to the stem... Personally I like the look much
> > > better.  It usually requires extra long cables (I use tandem cables,
> > > and I cut my own housing to length).  So check your length and make
> > > sure you've got enough cable to route it this way; otherwise you'll
> > > have to get longer cable.  Good luck.
>
> > > On Oct 25, 1:40 am, Kevin Turinsky  wrote:
> > >> I'm considering rerouting my derailleur cables from my bar-end
> > >> shifters, under the tape, all the way up the bars, just like my brake
> > >> cables. The reason I'm thinking of doing this is because then the
> > >> cables and my Berthoud bag will no longer have to quarrel.
>
> > >> Anyone already done this? Any tips? Any hobgoblins to look out for?
> > >> Photos?
>
> > >> Thanks.
>
> > >> Kevin Turinsky
> > >> RUSA RBA - Alaska
> > >> alaskarandonneurs.org
> > >> The Big Wild Ride - Alaska's 1200K
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[Montclair BobbyB]

I have a 1986 Nishiki Prestige SS (that I cherish)... Toying with the
idea of reinstalling gears (downtube shifters)... for which I'm
building a 6-speed (freewheel) rear wheel. I don't consider myself a
particularly strong rider, but I find I can ride a fairly long
distance on the SS with seemingly less fatigue (running 48x16
gearing), especially where the terrain is flat or rolling. I would
really like to take the bike on some climbing rides, but will
definitely keep my SS option available via some kind of quick
conversion.

BB


On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> Day 1 was 90 harrowing miles, day 2 was 98 more pleasant miles. I
> don't know how much weight I was carrying, Carradice longflap and a
> big Banjo Bros handlebar bag. The terrain was rolling, nothing
> extreme.
>
> On Oct 26, 10:29 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
> >  wrote:
> > > Gearing low on a fixed gear is usually a mistake, since spinning 150+
> > > rpm down hills can be a greater challenge than pushing a somewhat
> > > taller gear uphill.
>
> > Your body gets used to pushing bigger gears at low rpm with high
> > torque, both your muscles and your cardio system which gets used to a
> > lot of standing.
>
> > The longest trip I did was 2 long days from
>
> > > Washington, DC, to Richmond, VA in February. I pushed up one hill
> > > toward the end because my knee was stiff from a minor crash, and I
> > > didn't want to risk an injury.
>
> > That's about 80 miles, no? And IIRC -- it has been over 10 years --
> > the distance has some rolling terrain, no? And you had a, what, 20 lb
> > load? So what gear or gears did you use?
>
> > --
> > Patrick Moore
> > Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: Mustache handlebars: XO-3 vs current Nitto bars

[rperks]

AASHTA
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1992/1992.pdf
page 36 pdf, 35 catalog

On Oct 25, 8:14 pm, SJB  wrote:
> Once again, I find myself intrigued by mustache bars. I used to have a
> Bridgestone XO-3 that came with mustache bars. The B-stone bars fit a
> 25.4 stem and used mountainbike bike levers. The bars were okay, but
> not great for rides over 45 minutes.
> I'm thinking about getting some Nitto mustache bars, (the ones Riv
> sells,) for my fixed gear commuter. Can anyone tell me how different
> the B-stone bars are compared to the current Nitto bars? The shapes
> don't appear to be quite the same. I'm curious if anyone has real
> world experience with the two different mustache bars.
>
> Thanks

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[RBW] Twilight Tour de Pomegranate

[Robert Perks]

Some of you may remember the pictures of my walnut ride a few weeks ago.
Today it was time for pomegranates.  Beautiful clear, crisp and DRY morning
after a week and a half of early season rain.  Writeup and pics:

http://oceanaircycles.com/?p=186

-- 
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Day 1 was 90 harrowing miles, day 2 was 98 more pleasant miles. I
don't know how much weight I was carrying, Carradice longflap and a
big Banjo Bros handlebar bag. The terrain was rolling, nothing
extreme.

On Oct 26, 10:29 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
>  wrote:
> > Gearing low on a fixed gear is usually a mistake, since spinning 150+
> > rpm down hills can be a greater challenge than pushing a somewhat
> > taller gear uphill.
>
> Your body gets used to pushing bigger gears at low rpm with high
> torque, both your muscles and your cardio system which gets used to a
> lot of standing.
>
> The longest trip I did was 2 long days from
>
> > Washington, DC, to Richmond, VA in February. I pushed up one hill
> > toward the end because my knee was stiff from a minor crash, and I
> > didn't want to risk an injury.
>
> That's about 80 miles, no? And IIRC -- it has been over 10 years --
> the distance has some rolling terrain, no? And you had a, what, 20 lb
> load? So what gear or gears did you use?
>
> --
> Patrick Moore
> Albuquerque, NM
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> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell

[frank_a]

Jeremy,
I bought the 37 Paselas in the past year. Both the TG and Non TG.
Ordered them from my LBS and had 'em in a couple of days. I decided
long ago to go with one color. The cut-outs are creamed though.
 I also went for capped seat stays rather than plugs and some custom
work on the fork crown.

BB,
 But the drive side is so much more interesting! Actually I just shot
a bunch of pics hoping for a few good ones. I just downloaded them all
without really thinking about it.

eflayer,
 Actually that's not such a dramatic tilt at all, for me. I haven't
ridden a dead level saddle since my racing days (long ago). Other than
that I've always had a slight up-tilt to my saddles. I've got two
fused lumbar vertabrae since I'm 15 years old, maybe that's got
something to do with it but that's what works. To me a dead level
Brooks looks odd!

- Frank

On Oct 25, 11:19 pm, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> That thing's a beaut!  Congratulations.  I love how proportional
> everything looks even with the 37mm tires and Silver brakes-- at
> first, I didn't even realize it had the longer reach brakes.  I also
> really like single-color Riv paint jobs, and how understated they
> are.
>
> One question--how did you get your hands on the 37mm paselas? Have you
> had them in your stash for a while, or were they a recent purchase?
>
> On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
> > Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
> > Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
> >  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
> > up with.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>
> > And I am very happy.
>
> > - Frank

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[RBW] Let's move this stuff: Sam Hill, Monocog, dyno wheelset with Jack Browns FS.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Photos will be posted by Tuesday evening. Please email
writeint...@gmail.com for details.. Serious offers only, please.

1. 2009 Sam Hill frameset with parts, Waterford built, green, cantis,
56 cm, vg. Includes frame, fork, sp, stem (9 cm technomic), IRD cantis
front and rear but no levers. Fork has lowrider brazeons added nicely
by Dave Porter. I put only 200 miles on it, and it was Rivendell's
floor model before that. $1100 OBO. NOTE THE OBO!!!.

2. Monocog frameset with parts: 2008 I think, M (17"), much modified
by local builder thus: canti braze ons removed, fender and rack
eyelets installed including nice strut across fork legs with tapped
fender hole allowing good fender line on susp corrected fork. Tealy
green powdercoat. Right stay crimped to allow larger chainring with
good chainline. Includes sp, new Profile bb and hs, Profile upjutter
stem, Road BB7 F/R calipers (front mounted for 185 rotor), 185 front
rotor, OEM front and rear hubs. $250 OBO. Note that this bike takes
65s with plenty of room for fenders.

3. Wheelset (pair only) from Sam Hill: Basically RIvendell's cheap
wheels with Velocities and Deore rear hub, thus modified: rear is 7
(Seven) speed, not 8/9. Front hub is DN72 Dynohub. With Jack Brown
Greens and tubes.

Wheelset has my 200 miles and doubtless a few from Rivendell's
tryouts. Dynohub has less than 100 miles. Included is Spanninga
"Micro" LED headlight.

$200 firm for set. Will not sell front only.

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Albuquerque, NM
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Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com

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[RBW] FS: WTB Rocket SLT Stealth Saddle

[Johnny Alien]

For sale is a light weight WTB saddle. It is the Stealth model which
is what they are calling the SLT currently.  It has very little miles
on it.  There is some very very very minor wear on the rails.
Basically a little bit of the printing is gone in one tiny spot.  Past
that it's as new.  Has titanium rails and weighs only 205g.  Great
saddle for someone wanting something lightweight but not super duper
modern looking.  They sell new for $120.  This one is $70 shipped to
your door (in the US).

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1026001212.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[mike]

I'm another SJ rider.  I have two, both from '86 or so.  Lots of
mods.  Albatros bars on one, dirt drop bars on the other.  Grip King
or Sylvan Touring pedals, gearing changes to fit me better, fairly new
saddles on each.  Mostly-slick tires, 1.5 or 1.75 inch wide.

One bike stays at the office for noon errands, the other is my
commuter and home-based errands bike.  They swap roles every now and
then.  I have a rear rack on each and use panniers for most things.
If I'm going to the grocery store, I usually mount a milk crate (a
legal one from the Container Store) to the rack using toe clip straps.

I bought both in the last three years.  I've replaced a couple of
wheel bearings, repacked the BB on both.  I haven't touched the
headset bearings on either.  One has a new IRD freewheel (13-23 5sp)
the other has its original FW.

They work great for me.  I'm lusting after Betty evil eye and all :-),
but am not ready to drop for that yet.

-mike

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[RBW] Re: Hello New to Group and just Purchased a Bike

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

If you purchased a bike from The Country Bike Store, you must know
what a pleasant purchase experience is. My visit there was just a
wonderful day trip. My friend and I just chatted with the Dennings for
hours. And the shop is just what a store that sells Country Bikes
should be.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Oct 24, 4:35 pm, Kelly  wrote:
> I just purchased a 67 CM AHH from "The Country Bike Store" in Ohio.
> They had many bikes to test ride and let me take one out for a spin.
> The owers spent hours just talking and riding with me and my wife to
> make sure the fit and all the details were set.
>
> The amount of detail they put into the builds is amazing.
>
> Anyway it was the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden.  I don't fee
> bad about selling my 17lb carbon fibre race bike at all.  Now I'm in
> line to order a double top tube Hunqapillar to replace my tour bike.
> well once my wife gets over this purchase lol ...
>
> Great information on the group.. I look forward to reading more.
>
> Kelly

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[RBW] Re: what to wear with knickers?

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

I've got a pair of Wilderness Wear's over-the-calf Kozi socks that I
expect will work quite nicely with RBW's wool semi-tights and MUSA
knickers for all but the sub-Fahrenheit-zero weather I'll enjoy here
in the Chicago area. Nothing like two-layers of medium wool to
comfortably baffle the breeze. I'm thinking of getting some nice
intended-for-the-outer-layer wool knickers to go all wool when called
for. Anyone know where to get such things in *very* large sizes in
some color other than black?

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Oct 24, 8:49 pm, Steve  wrote:
> With REAL knickers (the plus twos that bind just below the knee) one
> can wear wool shooting socks.  Indeed, I wore mine today on a three
> speed ride to Brook Farm in West Roxbury, MA where I got a lot of
> compliments.
>
> Steve
>
> On Oct 24, 10:37 am, karpowicz  wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, if you wear knickers what do you wear to cover the calves during cold 
> > weather?
>
> > ken

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[RBW] Re: what to wear with knickers?

[rb]

Smartwool socks for snowboarding are great; and if it's below 20
degrees, smartwool long underwear under knickers and socks...good to 0
degrees, at which point Goretex overpants on top.

Also a good word for Swrve knickers...they have a very heavy winter
version that is quite nice; and their regular year round ones are
likewise excellent the rest of the time.

On Oct 24, 9:49 pm, Steve  wrote:
> With REAL knickers (the plus twos that bind just below the knee) one
> can wear wool shooting socks.  Indeed, I wore mine today on a three
> speed ride to Brook Farm in West Roxbury, MA where I got a lot of
> compliments.
>
> Steve
>
> On Oct 24, 10:37 am, karpowicz  wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, if you wear knickers what do you wear to cover the calves during cold 
> > weather?
>
> > ken

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[RBW] Re: Da Vinci cable spillter question

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

I split mine not too far below the cable stops. I probably left more
room between the cable stops and the splitters than I needed to. But
it's not a big deal for me.

http://tinyurl.com/25ouc6m

(see near the "H" in Hillborne)

I kept them high in order to minimize dust/dirt attack, though I'm not
sure that dust/dirt would really be a problem nor am I sure that I
really lowered the dust/dirt amounts in any way. My splitters are
pretty dusty. And work perfectly.

One thing I'm thinking of doing is greasing the inside of the female
half of each splitter. This is the half which one twists to connect/
disconnect the controls. Seems like greasing them would prevent
"twist" on the cable by helping the head slip around inside its house.
I wonder, though, if there's some reason I shouldn't do this. Perhaps
aforementioned dust/dirt?

In any case, I change my handlebars fairly frequently (once every
other week or so) and have noticed no issues at all from the split-
ness of the rear brake or either shifter. These things work well.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Oct 25, 3:21 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> Several list members have posted regarding using cable splitters to
> allow quick changes of handlebar.  I like to remove the handlebars
> from my Atlantis for shipping, so that idea has a lot of appeal.  So
> I'm staring at the Atlantis & trying to figure out where I would split
> the shift cables.  It's set up with drop bars, bar end shifters and
> aero brake levers; pretty standard stuff.  The brakes are obvious.
> But with cable housing all the way from bar end shift lever to the DT
> cable stops, where does one split those?  Thanks in advance for your
> experiences on this.
>
> dougP

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[RBW] Re: Da Vinci cable spillter question

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Oh. I hadn't even thought about it. I've never owned a bike that had
downtube shifter mounts.

The downtube cable stops people use on bikes with downtube shifter
mounts like the Atlantis (as opposed to brazed-on cable stops like the
Hillborne) must not be slotted like the brazed-on cable stops are.

Is it conceivable that someone sells a slotted cable stop that fits
onto a downtube shifter mount? Perhaps it couldn't have an effective
barrel adjuster if they did.

Sorry... just had an ah-ha moment. Rare enough, they are.

Still, though... you'd need to have additional cable stops only if you
had additional handlebar setups, right? If it's just a matter of
taking off / putting on the same cockpit, wouldn't you just leave the
downtube shifter bosses empty? Or is there nothing simpler to plug
them with than a downtube cable stop?

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Oct 25, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM, doug peterson  wrote:
> > Several list members have posted regarding using cable splitters to
> > allow quick changes of handlebar.  I like to remove the handlebars
> > from my Atlantis for shipping, so that idea has a lot of appeal.  So
> > I'm staring at the Atlantis & trying to figure out where I would split
> > the shift cables.  It's set up with drop bars, bar end shifters and
> > aero brake levers; pretty standard stuff.  The brakes are obvious.
> > But with cable housing all the way from bar end shift lever to the DT
> > cable stops, where does one split those?  Thanks in advance for your
> > experiences on this.
>
> split them below the downtube cable stops.
>
> I split mine about 6" or so up from the bottom bracket.
>
> You can see them just above and to the right of the crank in this 
> picturehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4316203300/
>
> so, that means you have to get a second set of downtube cable stops..
> but that's how it works.
> -sv

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[RBW] Re: WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[eflayer]

That is a fine looking bike.  The somewhat dramatic uptilt on your
Brooks saddle makes me wonder a bit.  I acknowledge we each have to
find a fit that fits.  I used to ride my Brooks with a slightly less
pronounced tilt, but in the past year have actually adjusted to close
to level.  That definitely puts more weight forward, suggests a
slightly longer stem to match the weight-forward reach, but I am now
the most comfortable I have ever been.  Saddle no longer digs into my
sit bones towards the nose of the saddle.  Good riding to you.

On Oct 26, 7:39 am, David Sprunger  wrote:
> Hi.  I asked for a chainhanger for my custom (ordered in 2003,
> delivered in 2005), and Curt Goodrich added a Columbine. It's a very
> handy addition. Photo 
> here:http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/rearcluster.JPG.
> David
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> > They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
> > I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
> > was making for me.  They
> > have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.
> > 
>
> > --
> > Jon “Papa” Grant
> > Illustration + Information Graphics
> > Austin, Texas
> > jgr...@papagrant.com
> > 512-284-9599
>
> > Drawings — all sorts
>
> > 
> > From: MichaelS 
> > Reply-To: 
> > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell
>
> > Very nice bike!
>
> > I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
> > a new option from Rivendell?
>
> > Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass
>
> > On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
> >> I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
> >> Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
> >> Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
> >>  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
> >> up with.
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>
> >> And I am very happy.
>
> >> - Frank
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[PATRICK MOORE]

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> Gearing low on a fixed gear is usually a mistake, since spinning 150+
> rpm down hills can be a greater challenge than pushing a somewhat
> taller gear uphill.

Your body gets used to pushing bigger gears at low rpm with high
torque, both your muscles and your cardio system which gets used to a
lot of standing.

The longest trip I did was 2 long days from
> Washington, DC, to Richmond, VA in February. I pushed up one hill
> toward the end because my knee was stiff from a minor crash, and I
> didn't want to risk an injury.

That's about 80 miles, no? And IIRC -- it has been over 10 years --
the distance has some rolling terrain, no? And you had a, what, 20 lb
load? So what gear or gears did you use?

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Gearing low on a fixed gear is usually a mistake, since spinning 150+
rpm down hills can be a greater challenge than pushing a somewhat
taller gear uphill. The longest trip I did was 2 long days from
Washington, DC, to Richmond, VA in February. I pushed up one hill
toward the end because my knee was stiff from a minor crash, and I
didn't want to risk an injury.

I have another fixed-gear now that serves a similar role, so the
Stumpy is up for sale.

On Oct 26, 5:33 am, Tom M  wrote:
> Beautiful bike. I mostly commute on a single speed, but I can't quite
> wrap my head around the idea of touring on one, much less on a fixed
> gear. I'm intrigued. How's it worked out for you? Do you have it
> geared low?
> --Tom
>
> On Oct 25, 12:23 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
>  wrote:
> > PS:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/2928495702/
>
> > Also, an earlier stage with 650B wheels, basket, and Albatross 
> > bar:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/422613850/
>
> > I found it was not at its best with 650B wheels.
>
> > On Oct 24, 10:14 am, Marty  wrote:
>
> > > While I wait for my new Bombadil, I put together a recent find that
> > > will be it's urban companion: a 1983 Stumpjumper. This will be my pick-
> > > up truck around town once I add the Wald basket to the front end. This
> > > is as close to a grab-and-go bike as I've had in quite some time.
> > > Simple, practical, utilitarian. Comfortable enough. Kind of like the
> > > '38 Chevy pick-up I had way back. The Bombadil will be set up with
> > > more gears for longer rides, and I may go with drops - we'll see once
> > > it gets here. I decided to go with a solid silver paint job - just
> > > like the Stumpy. No frills. The first shot in the set shows the bike
> > > in it's natural habitat - it begged me to stop and play when I rode
> > > past...
>
> > > Marty
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/24r2z4x

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[RBW] Re: what to wear with knickers?

[Earl Grey]

When it gets cold, I match my knicker-bockers with Keens sandals
instead of the flip-flops I usually wear. What are those sock things
you speak of?

Gernot
in far northern Thailand

On Oct 26, 2:57 am, Tom Norwood  wrote:
> Smartwool ski socks are just the ticket.  The extra thickness in front for
> padding against a ski boot gives extra insulation against the wind while
> riding.
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:37 AM, karpowicz  wrote:
> > So, if you wear knickers what do you wear to cover the calves during cold
> > weather?
>
> > ken
>
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Re: [RBW] WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[David Sprunger]

Hi.  I asked for a chainhanger for my custom (ordered in 2003,
delivered in 2005), and Curt Goodrich added a Columbine. It's a very
handy addition. Photo here:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/rearcluster.JPG.
David


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
> I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
> was making for me.  They
> have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.
> 
>
> --
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> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Austin, Texas
> jgr...@papagrant.com
> 512-284-9599
>
> Drawings — all sorts
>
>
> 
> From: MichaelS 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell
>
> Very nice bike!
>
> I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
> a new option from Rivendell?
>
> Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
>> I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
>> Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
>> Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
>>  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
>> up with.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>>
>> And I am very happy.
>>
>> - Frank
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[PATRICK MOORE]

Aha, yes, so I have heard -- must be quite some tire to go thru the
hassle of a wheel change for them.



On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Montclair BobbyB
 wrote:
> Another advantage to 584s... Grand Bois Hetres... Can I GIT an AMEN,
> brothers... Those are some heavenly tires.
>
> On Oct 25, 12:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> Given that (as I assume -- correct me if wrong) your friend won't be
>> seeking high performance with an old Rockhopper, and given the wide
>> range of tire sizes available in 559, I'd say that you ought to keep
>> the 559 wheels. You can run 32 mm Paselas or 50 or 60 mm Big Apples
>> and much in between.
>>
>> The only advantage to 584s that I can see on such a bike is if for
>> some reason you want skinnier tires that still maintain the overall,
>> roughly 26" wheel diameter for handling purposes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM, bfd  wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 24, 11:42 pm, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Yes, Jim is right about the wheel flop ... adding weight to the front
>> >> end would be a risky move.
>>
>> >> And while we are 
>> >> sharing:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/2010/06/renaissanced-1983-speciali...
>>
>> > This is interesting. On the one hand you have Jim Thill of Hiawantha
>> > Cyclery stating that the Stumpjumper was  not at its best with 650B
>> > wheels."
>>
>> > On the other hand you have Bryan of Renaissance Bicycles stating "The
>> > 650B wheels are a great upgrade for this frameset.  We’re not just
>> > sayin’ that … they enhance the ride, the responsiveness, and the
>> > aesthetics of the original bike.  Plus, they fit without fork
>> > clearance issues and work well with long reach canti brakes.  If you
>> > are upgrading wheels, go 650B."
>>
>> > So what is it? Should 650b wheels be added to a SJ or would it be
>> > better to leave it as a 26" (559mm) bike. I'm interested as a friend
>> > as an old rockhopper, lower end version of the SJ, that I might
>> > modify. At this point, I'm leaning towards leaving it with 26" wheels.
>> > Good Luck!
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Re: [RBW] WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[PATRICK MOORE]

So *that's* where the one on my gofast came from. I like it,
particularly on a fixed gear where there is no derailleur to hold the
chain more or less in place.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
> I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
> was making for me.  They
> have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.
> 
>
> --
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> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Austin, Texas
> jgr...@papagrant.com
> 512-284-9599
>
> Drawings — all sorts
>
>
> 
> From: MichaelS 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell
>
> Very nice bike!
>
> I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
> a new option from Rivendell?
>
> Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
>> I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
>> Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
>> Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
>>  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
>> up with.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>>
>> And I am very happy.
>>
>> - Frank
>
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[RBW] Re: Da Vinci cable spillter question

[Montclair BobbyB]

Yes, Alex Whetmore is the man... he and a handful of others ALWAYS
have great ideas...

Actually we should probably thank Leonardo Da Vinci... I'm sure he had
the original drawings...
BB

On Oct 25, 9:36 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Montclair BobbyB
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> > Seth:
>
> > I forgot to thank you... THANK YOU.  YOU gave me the great idea in the
> > first place to use DaVinci splitters on my Bombadil.  I have a set of
> > Nitto Noodles and a set of Nitto/Riv Bullmoose bars that each provides
> > a very different cockpit.  I've positioned the splitters just below
> > the downtube stops, with each bar set having its own dedicated cable
> > stops... as you said, this is a must. I've been able to do my swap in
> > UNDER 5 minutes. This is a MAJOR convenience factor, and it's great
> > knowing it won't require major effort to swap bars... I absolutely
> > love it.  I use V brakes, each set with its own noodle, so the brakes
> > (in my case) do NOT require splitters.  But you'd need them for
> > cantilever or sidepull brakes.
>
> > I seem to recall the cost (aside from having 2 sets of bars, brake and
> > shift levers) being roughly $65 for the setup, including the splitters
> > ($36), extra cables ($10) and cable stops ($20).  But if you like to
> > swap between drops and straight bars (as I do), you can't beat this
> > setup.
>
> I'm glad it's been helpful but to give proper credit:
>
> I got the idea from here:http://perrybessas.com/vf-archives/pdf/
>
> who got the idea from Alex Wetmore.
>
> Gotta love the internet :)
>
> and - I'm glad it works well for you, it is nice to be able to do
> them. I'm almost a little surprised that riv doesn't sell the cable
> splitters themselves.
>
> -sv- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[Montclair BobbyB]

Frank:

That's simply a gorgeous bike, and I love the green... I can tell you
like it, because every photo is essentially from the same angle...
it's so stunning, you just want to keep taking the same shot!!  I'd
love to see what the left side of this baby looks like... too funny!!

Enjoy.
BB

On Oct 26, 8:22 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
> I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
> was making for me.  They
> have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.
> 
>
> --
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> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Austin, Texas
> jgr...@papagrant.com
> 512-284-9599
>
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>
> From: MichaelS 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell
>
> Very nice bike!
>
> I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
> a new option from Rivendell?
>
> Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass
>
> > On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
> >> > I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
> >> > Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
> >> > Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
> >> >  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
> >> > up with.
>
> >> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>
> >> > And I am very happy.
>
> >> > - Frank
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[Montclair BobbyB]

Jim:

I'm a big fan of your builds, and these are but 2 examples... both
awesome, both very different, both the SAME FRAME!!!... very cool.

BB

On Oct 25, 12:23 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> PS:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/2928495702/
>
> Also, an earlier stage with 650B wheels, basket, and Albatross 
> bar:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/422613850/
>
> I found it was not at its best with 650B wheels.
>
> On Oct 24, 10:14 am, Marty  wrote:
>
>
>
> > While I wait for my new Bombadil, I put together a recent find that
> > will be it's urban companion: a 1983 Stumpjumper. This will be my pick-
> > up truck around town once I add the Wald basket to the front end. This
> > is as close to a grab-and-go bike as I've had in quite some time.
> > Simple, practical, utilitarian. Comfortable enough. Kind of like the
> > '38 Chevy pick-up I had way back. The Bombadil will be set up with
> > more gears for longer rides, and I may go with drops - we'll see once
> > it gets here. I decided to go with a solid silver paint job - just
> > like the Stumpy. No frills. The first shot in the set shows the bike
> > in it's natural habitat - it begged me to stop and play when I rode
> > past...
>
> > Marty
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/24r2z4x- Hide quoted text -
>
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[RBW] WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[Jon Grant]

They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
was making for me.  They
have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.


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From: MichaelS 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell

Very nice bike!

I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
a new option from Rivendell?

Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass


> On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
>> > I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
>> > Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
>> > Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
>> >  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
>> > up with.
>> >
>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>> >
>> > And I am very happy.
>> >
>> > - Frank
> 
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[RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell

[MichaelH]

Excellent!

Michael

On Oct 25, 5:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
> I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
> Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
> Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
>  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
> up with.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>
> And I am very happy.
>
> - Frank

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Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell

[MichaelS]

Very nice bike!

I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
a new option from Rivendell?

Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass


On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
> > I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
> > Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
> > Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
> >  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
> > up with.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
> >
> > And I am very happy.
> >
> > - Frank
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: early atlantis

[Garth]

I recall someone on Bikeforums with this bike, it's probably the same
person. They are/were thinking it's somehow related to a Rivendell
frame because of the GP connection, but of course it does not. I kind
of see this as just another Ebay lets-see-what-we-can-get-for-it
listings. As with anything used, it's worth what someone will pay for
it.

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry

[Tom M]

Beautiful bike. I mostly commute on a single speed, but I can't quite
wrap my head around the idea of touring on one, much less on a fixed
gear. I'm intrigued. How's it worked out for you? Do you have it
geared low?
--Tom

On Oct 25, 12:23 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> PS:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/2928495702/
>
> Also, an earlier stage with 650B wheels, basket, and Albatross 
> bar:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/422613850/
>
> I found it was not at its best with 650B wheels.
>
> On Oct 24, 10:14 am, Marty  wrote:
>
>
>
> > While I wait for my new Bombadil, I put together a recent find that
> > will be it's urban companion: a 1983 Stumpjumper. This will be my pick-
> > up truck around town once I add the Wald basket to the front end. This
> > is as close to a grab-and-go bike as I've had in quite some time.
> > Simple, practical, utilitarian. Comfortable enough. Kind of like the
> > '38 Chevy pick-up I had way back. The Bombadil will be set up with
> > more gears for longer rides, and I may go with drops - we'll see once
> > it gets here. I decided to go with a solid silver paint job - just
> > like the Stumpy. No frills. The first shot in the set shows the bike
> > in it's natural habitat - it begged me to stop and play when I rode
> > past...
>
> > Marty
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/24r2z4x

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