[RBW] Re: matching saddle and handlebar tape
I would suggest either orange or red Tressostar tape and four coats of amber shellac. Newbaum's tape might work just as well, but i haven't tried it. In any event, here's what four coats of amber shellac on orange Tressostar looks like with a honey B17 Special: http://tinyurl.com/26592op Good luck! Lee San Francisco, CA On Nov 12, 9:12 pm, chef mois...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello. First time post here. I've been reading for a while though:) Thanks for all the info, its been great. I'm installing interrupters on my hilsen and I might be able to salvage the tape job, but if not. I would like some advice on what tape and shellac to use to closely match a honey colored b17. Doesn't need to be perfect, if anything I think a little darker would be better. Any info would be much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] matching saddle and handlebar tape
Just cinelli tan cork coated with amber shellac does it well. I don't remember how many coats, but you can do one coat a day until you are there. I think the cork is worth it for the cushion and feel, and I think it gives it a more substantial look. Mine came out really well in appearance with that saddle alongside the older Hilsen darker blue. -Jim W. On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:12 PM, chef wrote: Hello. First time post here. I've been reading for a while though:) Thanks for all the info, its been great. I'm installing interrupters on my hilsen and I might be able to salvage the tape job, but if not. I would like some advice on what tape and shellac to use to closely match a honey colored b17. Doesn't need to be perfect, if anything I think a little darker would be better. Any info would be much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: matching saddle and handlebar tape
Amber shellac and yellow tressostar is what I used on this Atlantis (forward of the grips) and on the Expedition / Ideale seat (gray bike) I was experimenting with recycled inner tube covered with shellaced yellow tressostar. http://picasaweb.google.com/101826465968646315137/LatestBikes?authkey=Gv1sRgCKO49bKi3PyhWw#5533815430247023778 After the first coat dry's you can darken to taste since it dry's quickly after that. On Nov 13, 1:46 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: I would suggest either orange or red Tressostar tape and four coats of amber shellac. Newbaum's tape might work just as well, but i haven't tried it. In any event, here's what four coats of amber shellac on orange Tressostar looks like with a honey B17 Special: http://tinyurl.com/26592op Good luck! Lee San Francisco, CA On Nov 12, 9:12 pm, chef mois...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello. First time post here. I've been reading for a while though:) Thanks for all the info, its been great. I'm installing interrupters on my hilsen and I might be able to salvage the tape job, but if not. I would like some advice on what tape and shellac to use to closely match a honey colored b17. Doesn't need to be perfect, if anything I think a little darker would be better. Any info would be much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
Am also happy with the Wiggy gloves that Rivendell sells. But after seeing Dan's link, might have to buy some of those choppers. Will be using them today on the first snow ride of the season. Coming down pretty good right now. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 12, 11:02 pm, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: It's nothing like you describe, but when it's cold here, my fingers have been happiest in the sort of military gloves that Riv has sold a couple of times in the recent past. Each finger is in its own little sleeping bag and the outer nylon layer is tight enough to keep out the wind. Looks like they're not currently on the 'clothing' page. Someone at work compared them to snowmobile gloves. On Nov 12, 2:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Photos: 64cm Waterford built Hillborne
@ Andrew, Yes, the is the Sugino Alpina Triple. Looks good and works very well. I never felt the Sugino 500T was in any way sloppy when shifting, but the Alpina is definitely better. Of course, is about $80 more. @ kuma, I think you get whatever fork they give you ... and you're happy with it. Bryan On Nov 12, 3:14 pm, kuma dianevar...@rocketmail.com wrote: I also thought the three dot forks were the canti forks, and the no dot forks were the sidepull forks? There are so many different versions of the Sam fork, it is hard to keep track of them, and it's not at all clear to me which one you will get if you order a Sam. On Nov 12, 7:49 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: It is safe to say that this is the largest bike we've had in the Shop for a while; a 64cm double toptube Hillborne: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ This has been a project for quite some time – we ordered it from Waterford way-back-when. Bob did a very nice job selecting components and accessories. The 10-speed 105 drivetrain works well with the Sugino Alpina cranks and Silver shifters. For what it's worth, I still think the fluted version of the Honjos are the best looking fenders. Questions, comments, and observation are welcomed. Thanks and enjoy your weekend, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
Craft Thermal Split Finger mitts. It's a lobster claw - sort of a mitten, sort of a glove. Perfect for cold cold riding. On Nov 13, 10:36 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what you mean by winter! I use a pair of Smartwool Springgloves, which have a leather palm, until temps go down to about 30 degrees. After that I add a thin pair of Smartwool glove liners, which gets me down just below 20. After that I move to liners and lobster claws. Michael On Nov 12, 4:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?
I just use a couple of Irish straps to lock mine up. Works perfectly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4981513112/ On Nov 12, 11:19 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'll go with Sheldon's method for low security stops, and Lee's lock up method for longer/sketchier stops. The bike-link card for BART parking sounds interesting. That's a good point Lee made about Sheldon's method being susceptible to damage by the know-nothing crackhead though. Here's a picture of my bike at a coffee stop in Houston: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4628678724/ I don't think that would be the best lock-up method to use here. :) On Nov 12, 3:31 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a This Bike is a Pipe Bomb sticker? On Nov 12, 3:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh snap! That's genius right there. Like poison! Skull and bones! Who would steal that? A 'beware of dog' sign might even enhance it more. Or a this bike has a posse sticker. On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: William, How right you are. Works wonders. Vaughn added a crudely painted skull and crossbones next to my name: Insurance. On Nov 12, 9:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system. Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement. Park your bike unlocked on your claimed spot. Nobody will touch it. Nobody ever gets their bike stolen at Riv HQ. Why wouldn't that system work elsewhere? On Nov 11, 6:23 pm, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote: You may think I am paranoid, but I would never use a U lock or a cable lock on a bike I am leaving outside. I see way too many broken u-locks and cut cables. Whenever possible, I use attended bike parking - we are very fortunate in the SF Bay Area to have several such facilities. If you frequent downtown Berkeley, you can get a smart card, enabling you to use the downtown Berkeley (or any other) Bikestation at the rate of one penny per hour. This is especially convenient if I am coming home after a concert, play movie, etc. and the attended parking area of the Bikestation is closed. The Bikestation has restrooms, lots of racks and several small lockers (for personal items other than bikes). When I take my bike to work, I park it in my office. When I there is no alternative but to park my bike outside, I use a Quadrachain together with a Mul-t-lock. This is a rather heavy solution, but is easily carried in my Burley Nomad. The Mul-t-lock is virtually unbeatable. Boron hasp, unpickable keyway, keyed like the rest of my Mul-t-locks. CZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?
Peter - your strategy looks insecure; you forgot to Irish strap the rear wheel. :) On Nov 13, 8:56 am, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: I just use a couple of Irish straps to lock mine up. Works perfectly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4981513112/ On Nov 12, 11:19 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'll go with Sheldon's method for low security stops, and Lee's lock up method for longer/sketchier stops. The bike-link card for BART parking sounds interesting. That's a good point Lee made about Sheldon's method being susceptible to damage by the know-nothing crackhead though. Here's a picture of my bike at a coffee stop in Houston: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4628678724/ I don't think that would be the best lock-up method to use here. :) On Nov 12, 3:31 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a This Bike is a Pipe Bomb sticker? On Nov 12, 3:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh snap! That's genius right there. Like poison! Skull and bones! Who would steal that? A 'beware of dog' sign might even enhance it more. Or a this bike has a posse sticker. On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: William, How right you are. Works wonders. Vaughn added a crudely painted skull and crossbones next to my name: Insurance. On Nov 12, 9:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system. Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement. Park your bike unlocked on your claimed spot. Nobody will touch it. Nobody ever gets their bike stolen at Riv HQ. Why wouldn't that system work elsewhere? On Nov 11, 6:23 pm, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote: You may think I am paranoid, but I would never use a U lock or a cable lock on a bike I am leaving outside. I see way too many broken u-locks and cut cables. Whenever possible, I use attended bike parking - we are very fortunate in the SF Bay Area to have several such facilities. If you frequent downtown Berkeley, you can get a smart card, enabling you to use the downtown Berkeley (or any other) Bikestation at the rate of one penny per hour. This is especially convenient if I am coming home after a concert, play movie, etc. and the attended parking area of the Bikestation is closed. The Bikestation has restrooms, lots of racks and several small lockers (for personal items other than bikes). When I take my bike to work, I park it in my office. When I there is no alternative but to park my bike outside, I use a Quadrachain together with a Mul-t-lock. This is a rather heavy solution, but is easily carried in my Burley Nomad. The Mul-t-lock is virtually unbeatable. Boron hasp, unpickable keyway, keyed like the rest of my Mul-t-locks. CZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
I purchased some cheap rubber coated knit gloves at the grocery store and they are fine enough down to about 30 degrees at which point I stop riding on the roads at higher speeds due to the ice that you can't see.. I don't want to have to prove to myself if helmets are worth wearing. The faster you go the better your glove needs to be although I have been using my Hobo bag as a wind block so I get away with less glove. I have many hills in my area making summer gloves useful when I start to get heated up. Sportsman's stores for hunters carry gloves/mittens similar to what you describe since they need their trigger fingers accessible. I just carry two pairs of gloves one for down hills and one for up. On Nov 12, 1:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: matching saddle and handlebar tape
The usual advice for a *near* match with a honey Brooks is to treat tan cork or yellow cloth with amber shellac. Actually, white cloth treated with amber shellac will give the same result as will yellow cloth. If your honey Brooks has a lot of miles on it and has darkened substantially, then any of these choices won't be a close match. In that case, going with a darker tape (like the orange cloth shown by Lee, or possibly brown cloth) will keep the end result darker, whether that's good or not. Some experimentation and open-mindedness might be in order. How you apply the shellac plays a big role in the desired result. I dilute the shellac with denatured alcohol, starting with a heavily diluted mixture for the first two coats and then progress to weaker dilutions. Thinned shellac initially penetrates the tape well and applies easily without drips and sags. I like to retain a bit of the texture of the tape, and I find that numerous, thinned coats make it easier to control that. I use six to seven coats total, resulting in a thin, durable finish that dries faster between coats. Aggressive *brushing* when you apply the shellac will result in more bubbles in the final finish and more splatters on you and your bike. If that bothers you, just use the brush to gently control the flow of the shellac onto the tape. Before your final coat (and once the previous coat has dried), knock off any little bubbles with fine sandpaper and follow with a quick wiping of denatured alcohol on a rag. You're now ready for the final coat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35134...@n05/3297247547/in/photostream/ The above is an example of amber-shellacked white cloth with a honey Brooks. Both the tape and saddle were new when this was taken. Over time and mileage, the wrap has mellowed nicely, and the saddle has gained the darker tones and patina as you'd expect. Since the wrap will never darken like the saddle, the latter will one day become much darker in comparison. Finally, I understand some people actually like the resin look obtained by multiple, heavy applications of undiluted shellac. If that's your objective, realize that it won't have the same durability and will be prone to chipping or cracking, especially if applied over padded tape. I've been told that the additives in premixed, canned shellac reduce its flexibility; mixing your own solution with flaked shellac supposedly preserves flexibility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Help with Serial Numbers
I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
The U.S. military Arctic mittens aren't bad, and they're quite inexpensive. Inner wool mitten, combined with an outer leather mitten that has wool on the top, and a long nylon gaiter. There are two basic versions: full mittens and then a set that has a index finger separate. They usually cost about US$ 30. The material and build quality is comparable to mountaineering mittens that can cost up to $200. You can find them on ebay or at the on line military surplus vendor sites. I have a couple of sets that I use in the mountains of northern New Mexico and for commuting in the winter when it's really cold. One thing to keep in mind is that they run big. I normally wear large or extra-large gloves, but with these I use either medium or small. On Nov 13, 7:08 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Am also happy with the Wiggy gloves that Rivendell sells. But after seeing Dan's link, might have to buy some of those choppers. Will be using them today on the first snow ride of the season. Coming down pretty good right now. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 12, 11:02 pm, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: It's nothing like you describe, but when it's cold here, my fingers have been happiest in the sort of military gloves that Riv has sold a couple of times in the recent past. Each finger is in its own little sleeping bag and the outer nylon layer is tight enough to keep out the wind. Looks like they're not currently on the 'clothing' page. Someone at work compared them to snowmobile gloves. On Nov 12, 2:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: matching saddle and handlebar tape
I think that yellow with amber hits the honey look very well but that orange looked good as well. Red with amber is going to be closer to a deep ox blood color. I would also suggest waiting between coats and checking it out. I have found that 4 coats starts to hit too glossy status with me but others really prefer it. I always stop at 3. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
My go-to cold weather hand protection has always been a simple glove made from gore windstopper fleece, of which there are many brands. Here's an example from OR at REI: http://www.rei.com/product/787060 Of course, only being fleece with no kind of shell, they will get wet if it's actively snowing or raining, but if you're just riding on cold days with no precip they keep your hands out of the wind without overheating them, I've found. On Nov 12, 1:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Seattle Day-After-Thanksgiving Riv Ride
Hey folks! The first Seattle Riv Ride was a blast. Let's do another! When: Friday November 26th Where: TBD... I'm going to start by following up on Stewart's suggestion, and say we could catch the Cargo Bike Buy-Nothing Day Ride and see some interesting bikes: http://www.rideyourbike.com/bnd2010.shtml. That'd be meeting at the Pig in Pike Place Market at noon, leaving at 1pm and riding to Georgetown for a BBQ. I've never been on one of those rides, but it sounds like fun. What say you? Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding
I just tried a friends unlined Dearskin,Elkskin chopper mitts w. wool mitten inserts. The best I've ever tried for cold weather. Dulth Pack has a nice pair. On Nov 12, 4:49 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter coming I'm thinking about my hands. Last Winter they got cold often and I think I need some mittens. My ideal would be all natural materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner. Even better would be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover for if the hands get hot. Has anyone seen something like this? I've been scouring the web with no luck. Anyone seen anything like this or use them? james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
Before you go through the considerable expense of adding couplers, consider that in the world of airline luggage fees today, you are as likely as not to be charged $200 per bike per trip even with coupled bikes that don't exceed normal luggage size limits. The rules on this are seemingly unclear, and perhaps irrelevant. Seems that to many airline check-in employees, bike = fee regardless of the size of the case. On Nov 13, 10:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
If memory serves there were just a few frames completed in 1994 and all the 94-95 (-96?) were wateford built. JB didn't start painting Rivendell frames until later, I will stab a guess at 1998 or 99. My 1996 A/R was Waterford builtpainted, my 2001 Road was Curt built JB painted. On Nov 13, 9:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
Doesn't the M mean it was match built, 1999 - 2000 or so? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:25:00 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers If memory serves there were just a few frames completed in 1994 and all the 94-95 (-96?) were wateford built. JB didn't start painting Rivendell frames until later, I will stab a guess at 1998 or 99. My 1996 A/R was Waterford builtpainted, my 2001 Road was Curt built JB painted. On Nov 13, 9:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Seattle Day-After-Thanksgiving Riv Ride
I'm a maybe. I like the cargo bike ride idea. Mobile Brian Hanson On Nov 13, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks! The first Seattle Riv Ride was a blast. Let's do another! When: Friday November 26th Where: TBD... I'm going to start by following up on Stewart's suggestion, and say we could catch the Cargo Bike Buy-Nothing Day Ride and see some interesting bikes: http://www.rideyourbike.com/bnd2010.shtml. That'd be meeting at the Pig in Pike Place Market at noon, leaving at 1pm and riding to Georgetown for a BBQ. I've never been on one of those rides, but it sounds like fun. What say you? Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
Add a few photos to the All Rounder Flickr group when you get a chance gregb. We love to see Rivs! BTW - did I read an earlier post of yours that suggested the bike is built around 27 wheels? That seems odd. http://tinyurl.com/2cnxwba Marty On Nov 13, 3:41 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: Doesn't the M mean it was match built, 1999 - 2000 or so? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:25:00 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers If memory serves there were just a few frames completed in 1994 and all the 94-95 (-96?) were wateford built. JB didn't start painting Rivendell frames until later, I will stab a guess at 1998 or 99. My 1996 A/R was Waterford builtpainted, my 2001 Road was Curt built JB painted. On Nov 13, 9:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?
Haha, you're funny... Wait a sec, where do you work? On Nov 13, 10:08 am, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Peter - your strategy looks insecure; you forgot to Irish strap the rear wheel. :) On Nov 13, 8:56 am, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: I just use a couple of Irish straps to lock mine up. Works perfectly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4981513112/ On Nov 12, 11:19 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'll go with Sheldon's method for low security stops, and Lee's lock up method for longer/sketchier stops. The bike-link card for BART parking sounds interesting. That's a good point Lee made about Sheldon's method being susceptible to damage by the know-nothing crackhead though. Here's a picture of my bike at a coffee stop in Houston: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4628678724/ I don't think that would be the best lock-up method to use here. :) On Nov 12, 3:31 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a This Bike is a Pipe Bomb sticker? On Nov 12, 3:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh snap! That's genius right there. Like poison! Skull and bones! Who would steal that? A 'beware of dog' sign might even enhance it more. Or a this bike has a posse sticker. On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: William, How right you are. Works wonders. Vaughn added a crudely painted skull and crossbones next to my name: Insurance. On Nov 12, 9:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system. Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement. Park your bike unlocked on your claimed spot. Nobody will touch it. Nobody ever gets their bike stolen at Riv HQ. Why wouldn't that system work elsewhere? On Nov 11, 6:23 pm, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote: You may think I am paranoid, but I would never use a U lock or a cable lock on a bike I am leaving outside. I see way too many broken u-locks and cut cables. Whenever possible, I use attended bike parking - we are very fortunate in the SF Bay Area to have several such facilities. If you frequent downtown Berkeley, you can get a smart card, enabling you to use the downtown Berkeley (or any other) Bikestation at the rate of one penny per hour. This is especially convenient if I am coming home after a concert, play movie, etc. and the attended parking area of the Bikestation is closed. The Bikestation has restrooms, lots of racks and several small lockers (for personal items other than bikes). When I take my bike to work, I park it in my office. When I there is no alternative but to park my bike outside, I use a Quadrachain together with a Mul-t-lock. This is a rather heavy solution, but is easily carried in my Burley Nomad. The Mul-t-lock is virtually unbeatable. Boron hasp, unpickable keyway, keyed like the rest of my Mul-t-locks. CZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
I agree with Jim. Unless you plan to travel a *lot*, the cost of setting a bike up with SS couplers is very high, both in dollar and effort. When I traveled to France, I put my Quickbeam in a hardshell bike case (Air France didn't charge for bikes in '07, not sure if they do now), and when I got to my destination it was very easy to reassemble and get my bike roadworthy. From what I have heard, packing and unpacking a coupled bike is more difficult, something like a puzzle. If you don't want to wheel a full-sized bike case around the airport, you can also UPS it to your destination. I did this a few years ago when I flew to Portland. UPS shipping was less than a domestic carrier would have charged, and the bike was waiting for me when I arrived at the hotel. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 13, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Before you go through the considerable expense of adding couplers, consider that in the world of airline luggage fees today, you are as likely as not to be charged $200 per bike per trip even with coupled bikes that don't exceed normal luggage size limits. The rules on this are seemingly unclear, and perhaps irrelevant. Seems that to many airline check-in employees, bike = fee regardless of the size of the case. On Nov 13, 10:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grand Cru Crankset Install
As promised, photos from my installation of a Grand Cru double crankset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625259220961/ Enjoy. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Ride, new pictures
Bo pictures of the drivetrain side? From: reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 7:02:34 PM Subject: [RBW] Roadeo Ride, new pictures Finally getting some Roadeo time in. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/sets/72157625377490164/ A lot of parts came from a Colnago Masterlight. There's no comparison between the two bikes, really. The Roadeo with Rivendell geometry is a delight to ride. The Colnago is a really beautiful bike, but quite uncomfortable - - bars too low, neck always hurt, dopey short chain stays led to crummy shifting for Clyde. Clyde likes a triple, but the triple doesn't like 39 cm chainstays. So, the Roadeo has luscious 43 cm chainstays, which makes the shifting happy and smooth. The Campagnolo 10-speed brifters and rear derailleur now work happily with an FSA crankset (24-36-48). As for the frame, well, I need to come up with some prose to convey a sort of dreamy-eyed contentment here. As you would expect, the bike is very comfortable, very plush, to you the common parlance, but quick and delightfully solid during out-of-the saddle climbing sprints. My Clydesdale Quads tried to crush the bike today, but the frame just rocks below the rider me, very content, no mushiness, no chainstay rub, no bottom bracket sway. Rock solid, and still comfortable. It feels nimble, and really excels on the downhills. I don't know nothin about no planing, not me, but I can say this bike sings pretty sweet when you push it hard. Of course, the fat dumb and happy Schwalbe Kojaks are like feather pillows. I'm really happy with the brakes - - I had read some posts about how these big mouth brakesets are sloppy and shaky, but I am happy to report they stop with alacrity, wonderful modulation, and perfect confidence - - even for Clyde doing 35 mph down rough pavement on an 18% descent. The bike, the brakes, and the tires give a fellow quite a smile on the downhill chicanes. The only thing wrong with this bike is the rider, who hain't been riding too much last few weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
uhh driveside pictures. Dang, I knew I would forget something. I'll do the ride again tomorrow and snap some to post. My bad, as they say in the vernacular. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: uhh driveside pictures. Dang, I knew I would forget something. I was going to say I want one. I'd build it up as a gofast, no-holds-barred lightweight, a coastie/multispeed counterpart to my Riv fixie gofast. May be a double in front, perhaps just a 1X8 or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
Very nice, but that's a cross bike. How does it ride and handle compared to the R? On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:22 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: The Roadeo's brother has a 1x9. And driveside pics. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis versatilty
During today's So Cal Rivendell Riders ride up Silverado Cyn to (just below) Modjeska Peak, down to Modejeska Cyn back via Santiago, it occurred to me that in the the last week my Atlanis has been on a S24O (last Sat Sun), carrying camping gear; a quick overnight lodging tour (Mon Tues) to San Diego, a couple of road rides, and finally a mostly dirt road ride with several thousand feet of elev gain. All the above with the same tires (pumped up once before the S24O) and without fussing with the racks. OK, I admit I thought about taking them off for today but heck, I'd just have to put them back on, no point. While the Atlantis is clearly the most versatile bike Riv makes (there's fightin' words!), there's plenty of other Rivendells that could do all of the above. There's not a lot of bike manufacturers that can make the same claim. In celebration, tomorrow I'll clean the Atlantis. Mud, dust, Gatorade makes a yucky coating. Oh, and David was tasked to get photos of today's ride up tonight. Epic ride, with 80% Rivendell participation. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: matching saddle and handlebar tape
It'll rarely be a perfect matchgo for contrast...or do what I did, which is give up entirely. Angus On Nov 12, 11:12 pm, chef mois...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello. First time post here. I've been reading for a while though:) Thanks for all the info, its been great. I'm installing interrupters on my hilsen and I might be able to salvage the tape job, but if not. I would like some advice on what tape and shellac to use to closely match a honey colored b17. Doesn't need to be perfect, if anything I think a little darker would be better. Any info would be much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis versatilty
Doug, I participated in the 2nd annual Tyler TX Cranksgiving ride on my Atlantis. A group of cyclist donated/hauled 502 lbs of food to the local Salvation Army. I typically commute on my Atlantis and added the front rack, front panniers, food and away we go. I was riding home from Cranksgiving, in the dark, getting cold, thinking that the Atlantis is one of my favorite bikes of all time...if I had to pick just one bike it would be this one. It rode great loaded down with food and it rode great with empty panniers. What a nice bike. Angus On Nov 13, 9:02 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: During today's So Cal Rivendell Riders ride up Silverado Cyn to (just below) Modjeska Peak, down to Modejeska Cyn back via Santiago, it occurred to me that in the the last week my Atlanis has been on a S24O (last Sat Sun), carrying camping gear; a quick overnight lodging tour (Mon Tues) to San Diego, a couple of road rides, and finally a mostly dirt road ride with several thousand feet of elev gain. All the above with the same tires (pumped up once before the S24O) and without fussing with the racks. OK, I admit I thought about taking them off for today but heck, I'd just have to put them back on, no point. While the Atlantis is clearly the most versatile bike Riv makes (there's fightin' words!), there's plenty of other Rivendells that could do all of the above. There's not a lot of bike manufacturers that can make the same claim. In celebration, tomorrow I'll clean the Atlantis. Mud, dust, Gatorade makes a yucky coating. Oh, and David was tasked to get photos of today's ride up tonight. Epic ride, with 80% Rivendell participation. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
Greg: I'd give the SS route a second probably a third thought. Domestically, you can Fed Ex or UPS a bike for a lot less than the airlines charge. I recently sent a 58 cm LHT from Flagstaff, AZ to St Paul, MN for around $65. Internationally, you have to figure out where you're going, then research the airlines serving that destination. There really are no rules you can depend upon. The problem with the airlines is it's a moveing target subject to the whims of the check-in agent. I've traveled with people with SS coupled bikes in the SS case who've not been charged. I've also heard from others who've been hit full retail at the gate. You never know. The SS system is elegant but does require more bike dis- assembly than expected. At the other end, it takes just as long to get a coupled bike together re-adjusted as a regular bike. I bought my Atlantis in 03 and fully intended to get a coupled bike. Rivendell would have done it but cautioned me on the pros cons. It just wasn't as cool in reality as it seemed. I travel a lot and have never regretted just getting the standard model. dougP On Nov 13, 8:40 am, gregb gbberk...@gmail.com wrote: I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my Riv. AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly. I think that means it was the 25th allrounder made? puts it at about 1994? What else could I learn about this (newish to me) bike. I am considering having it cut in half to put some SS couplings in it which will necessitate a repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job... (I would have this done by the folks at RE in seattle where we are likely getting another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour bikes for an italy trip.) I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject. I have been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take the pristine beauty out in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nov SoCal Riv Ride
The short: Good times! The medium: Five riders from five counties. The ride did not disappoint. The intent was to get all the way to Santiago Peak, the highest point in Orange County. Didn't quite make it, but still almost 30 miles with gazillions of feet of climbing. VERY well maintained fire road going up. Steep by good. Cold and windy at the saddle where we decided to head down. Took a fire road that was a lot rougher, but closed to motor vehicles which sealed the deal. There is NO better way to see the various parts of SoCal than these rides. December we'll be back in Santa Monica doing Dirt Mulholland, which is the best ride I know of. Lots of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157625260156685/with/5173157081/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
both of the bikes pictured in this thread are built up with a lot of spacers under the threadless stem. both framesets are gorgeous, so don't get me wrong. and when i see the spacers i ask why not more seat and headtube lengthor it justifies my preference for sloping top tubes...or it speaks to the beauty of the quill stem...or someone should manufacture threadless stems with much longer fork clamps to make the spacers go away. Raleigh appears to be attempting those threadless, long clamp stems on their newest touring bike. On Nov 13, 6:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, but that's a cross bike. How does it ride and handle compared to the R? On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:22 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: The Roadeo's brother has a 1x9. And driveside pics. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
what i was taking about here at Raleigh: http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/steel-road/port-townsend-11/ On Nov 13, 8:10 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: both of the bikes pictured in this thread are built up with a lot of spacers under the threadless stem. both framesets are gorgeous, so don't get me wrong. and when i see the spacers i ask why not more seat and headtube lengthor it justifies my preference for sloping top tubes...or it speaks to the beauty of the quill stem...or someone should manufacture threadless stems with much longer fork clamps to make the spacers go away. Raleigh appears to be attempting those threadless, long clamp stems on their newest touring bike. On Nov 13, 6:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, but that's a cross bike. How does it ride and handle compared to the R? On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:22 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: The Roadeo's brother has a 1x9. And driveside pics. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride
Sorry I had to miss it - I'd never heard of this area! Maybe next year! Looks like an absolute blast, as I know how these things can be. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Nov 13, 7:54 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The short: Good times! The medium: Five riders from five counties. The ride did not disappoint. The intent was to get all the way to Santiago Peak, the highest point in Orange County. Didn't quite make it, but still almost 30 miles with gazillions of feet of climbing. VERY well maintained fire road going up. Steep by good. Cold and windy at the saddle where we decided to head down. Took a fire road that was a lot rougher, but closed to motor vehicles which sealed the deal. There is NO better way to see the various parts of SoCal than these rides. December we'll be back in Santa Monica doing Dirt Mulholland, which is the best ride I know of. Lots of pics here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157625260156685/with... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis versatilty
Doug - regardless of bike, that sounds like a perfect week! I'm with you on the greatness of the Atlantis though, and I've got two to prove it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/5020392429/ :) On Nov 13, 7:02 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: During today's So Cal Rivendell Riders ride up Silverado Cyn to (just below) Modjeska Peak, down to Modejeska Cyn back via Santiago, it occurred to me that in the the last week my Atlanis has been on a S24O (last Sat Sun), carrying camping gear; a quick overnight lodging tour (Mon Tues) to San Diego, a couple of road rides, and finally a mostly dirt road ride with several thousand feet of elev gain. All the above with the same tires (pumped up once before the S24O) and without fussing with the racks. OK, I admit I thought about taking them off for today but heck, I'd just have to put them back on, no point. While the Atlantis is clearly the most versatile bike Riv makes (there's fightin' words!), there's plenty of other Rivendells that could do all of the above. There's not a lot of bike manufacturers that can make the same claim. In celebration, tomorrow I'll clean the Atlantis. Mud, dust, Gatorade makes a yucky coating. Oh, and David was tasked to get photos of today's ride up tonight. Epic ride, with 80% Rivendell participation. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nov SoCal Riv Ride
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:54, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157625260156685/with/5173157081/ Another great SoCal Riv Ride! Thanks, David, for the great photos, and to everybody for a fine time. We covered a lot of miles and altitude, with warm weather and no mechanical problems. Looking at Rob's clear powdercoated Roadeo made me want a Roadeo. Such a fine fork bend! James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grip King Ulti-mod!
Like a lot of people, getting a Riv included for me the epiphany that pedaling free is a great option. I do ride with toe clips and with clipless pedals sometimes, but I pedal free exclusively for commuting and S24O's and a lot of my road riding. I love the MKS sneaker pedals. I want to like the Grip Kings, but I don't feel I get enough lateral support. My right ankle is weak from being rolled over numerous times. Riding with the Grip Kings gives me the feeling that my right foot is going to spill over the outside edge of the pedal. Today I took on the DIY task of modifying my Grip Kings to give me the lateral support I want. I think it turned out really well. I posted a youtube on the process, if you care to check it out. These might now be my perfect pedal. I'll try them out over the next several weeks. Have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nov SoCal Riv Ride
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:28 PM, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 19:54, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157625260156685/with/5173157081/ Another great SoCal Riv Ride! Thanks, David, for the great photos, and to everybody for a fine time. We covered a lot of miles and altitude, with warm weather and no mechanical problems. Looking at Rob's clear powdercoated Roadeo made me want a Roadeo. Such a fine fork bend! James Black Los Angeles, CA - Interestingly, no mechanicals at all, especially given our riding on inappropriate bikes. :-) One small crash, one incident of pedal on shin contact. I have tired hands from grabbing brakes on the downhill. And yes, PERFECT weather. Breezy at times, but never real bad. You liked that fork bend, but I couldn't get past the blue on Jenny's AHH. Those bikes are just great! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip King Ulti-mod!
Grip King Supremes, awesome! On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:30 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Like a lot of people, getting a Riv included for me the epiphany that pedaling free is a great option. I do ride with toe clips and with clipless pedals sometimes, but I pedal free exclusively for commuting and S24O's and a lot of my road riding. I love the MKS sneaker pedals. I want to like the Grip Kings, but I don't feel I get enough lateral support. My right ankle is weak from being rolled over numerous times. Riding with the Grip Kings gives me the feeling that my right foot is going to spill over the outside edge of the pedal. Today I took on the DIY task of modifying my Grip Kings to give me the lateral support I want. I think it turned out really well. I posted a youtube on the process, if you care to check it out. These might now be my perfect pedal. I'll try them out over the next several weeks. Have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride, new pictures
Ask and ye shall receive: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-tall-stack-threadless-stem-31-8-rise.html On Nov 13, 8:10 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: both of the bikes pictured in this thread are built up with a lot of spacers under the threadless stem. both framesets are gorgeous, so don't get me wrong. and when i see the spacers i ask why not more seat and headtube lengthor it justifies my preference for sloping top tubes...or it speaks to the beauty of the quill stem...or someone should manufacture threadless stems with much longer fork clamps to make the spacers go away. Raleigh appears to be attempting those threadless, long clamp stems on their newest touring bike. On Nov 13, 6:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, but that's a cross bike. How does it ride and handle compared to the R? On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:22 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: The Roadeo's brother has a 1x9. And driveside pics. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
