Re: [RBW] How do you wrap the bars like this????

2010-11-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
Google for Harlequin Wrap


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 08:02 -0800, CycloFiend wrote:
 on 11/25/10 4:10 PM, ace2962 at ace2...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find
 instructions on wrapping bar tape like this Hunqa?  
 
 And any suggestions for a second color tape to go on my
 Bleriot?  I have 2 rolls of a medium Blue color tape now, and
 want to add a second color.  What are your ideas?  Maybe a
 white to sort of match the headtube?  
 
I will probably wrap and twine the kickstand with the same
 2-color scheme.  
 Thanks for your ideas.  
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/87662...@n00/4491602074/in/set-72157607046096711/
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/87662...@n00/4491605966/in/set-72157607046096711/
 
 
 That seems to be just a parallel wrap - i.e. using two colors of
 tape which are overlapped and offset and then wrapped around the bar
 at the same time.  It looks like they snipped the orange at the brake
 hoods and then continued on with just the single color.   It's hard to
 know for sure (and I haven't seen it in person), but it might be tan
 cork tape with orange cloth tape. 
 
 For more complex patterns, I've come across these examples:
 
 http://cyclofiend.com/working/#other
 
 - Jim
 
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[RBW] Re: The Lady loves her Atlantis

2010-11-29 Thread rperks
That is so cool, congrats.  I have been trying to find a wife bike
like that for years.  The 650b conversion of her Miyata brought us
closer, but outside of the tandem the solution will likely be a
custom.  I looked long and hard at that Atlantis, but the timing is
not right, and I think it was a bit small for my wife, I am glad it is
going to be loved.

If you are not going to have matching jerseys you could at least have
matching hats:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/atlantis-cycling-cap/40-034
while they are on sale

Rob


On Nov 28, 11:47 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Following our story of the new-to-her 47 cm Atlantis posted earlier,
 my wife has been on the bike now 3 days this weekend (and we've still
 got Sunday afternoon).  After picking up the bike during last
 weekend's inclement (for us) weather, her first chance to get in a
 decent ride was Thanksgiving day.  The drop bars and bar end shifters
 were new to her so we took the familiar Newport Back Bay loop, a 22
 mile RT from our home.  She was so comfortable and confident with the
 bike that she insisted on taking it the next day on an overnight to
 San Diego with our local club.  I suggested that she take her trusty
 Trek (flat bars, grip shift) but was over-ruled.

 Bright  early Friday AM, we dropped our luggage at the start and
 hopped the train south to Oceanside.  This cut the mileage to around
 40, a comfortable distance for her.  We took all the meandering back
 lanes I know of to minimize time on PCH and maximize the scenic
 element.  Many of our friends in the bike club had moaned about the
 dreaded Torrey Pines grade.  IMHO this is highly over blown.  When we
 took a rest stop at the park at the base of the grade, I gave her the
 choice of the main highway or the old road.  For those unfamiliar with
 it, the old road is perhaps one-third the distance so obviously a good
 deal steeper.  There is an interesting museum right at the top, and
 the views are worth the climb.  She opted for the old road and made it
 to the top non-stop.  She was so glad to be on the Atlantis and said
 she'd have been pushing her Trek, even though it's also fitted with
 very low gearing.

 The weather was picture perfect and we arrived in San Diego in plenty
 of time for some wandering about.  She's often ready for a short nap
 after 40 miles but not Friday.  After our group explored Little Italy
 on Friday night, we rode thru the harbor area and caught the Bayside
 Bike Trail back up Coronado and the ferry back to downtown.  My wife
 couldn't be happier with the Atlantis and personally supervised its
 loading into the luggage bin for the bus ride home.  We took a bit of
 ribbing about having matching bikes but it's all in good fun.  On the
 way home she was musing about other potential weekend tours, so I see
 lots of mileage in the future for Mini-lantis.

 dougP

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road 59cm Complete

2010-11-29 Thread Wally
Hi! I should have included that info in the original listing - thanks
for asking. The standover is 83.5cm (33), and I have a PBH of 91 cm.

Wally

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RE: [RBW] Tubus Fly for trunk bag?

2010-11-29 Thread Larry Powers

I have one ant it is too narror for a trunk bag.  

Larry Powers 
 
Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain



 
 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:13:11 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Tubus Fly for trunk bag?
 From: dougpn...@cox.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Has anyone used a Tubus Fly for a trunk bag? I'm thinking of it on my
 wife's Atlantis. My concerns are whether it's too narrow at the front
 for adequate support and if it can be mounted to the seat stay
 eyelets. The only time I've seen one in the flesh was on James'
 Nishiki a few weeks ago  it looks really elegant. Plan B is the
 Vega.
 
 dougP
 
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[RBW] FS: Rawland Drakkar complete bike medium Stronglight compact crank etc.

2010-11-29 Thread hobie
Rawland Drakkar medium green sparkle Columbus Zona Nivacrom tubing.The
frame was purchased from Rawland late spring of this year. I finished
the build 3 months later so the bike has seen very little usage. I can
describe the ride as quick and nimble,and very responsive, climbs
excellent. Overall a very nice bike with the option to use 700c wheels
or 650b.Tons of clearence for both size wheels.Beautiful Pacenti Bi-
plane lugged fork crown. Fender and rack mounts 3- water bottle
bosses. The bike can do it all. Won Best in Show award at the Rough
Riders rally annual shindig this past summer. The build is as follows:

1- Velocity Blunt 28mm wide 650b silver rims laced to DT Hugi Hayes
Swiss made silver disc hubs,w. Salsa flip off skewers silver and
Panaracer Fatty Rumpkins
2- Avid BB7 disc brakes
3- Nitto UI-5gx threadless stem
4- Cane Creek S3 threadless headset
5- Soma Moustache bars
6- Tektro Drop v brake levers
7- Selle An-Atomica Titanico Watershed brown saddle
8- Control Tech 27.2 silver seatpost
9- Shimano bar end shifters 8 speed
10-Shimano LX rear derailer
11- Shimano 8 speed cassette
12- Campagnola Chorus double front derailer
13- Stronglight Isis Compact double 29 concept crankset 44t/29t 7075
rings 175mm
14- Stronglight Isis BB
15- Panaracer Fatty Rumpkin 650b tires
16- New Brown cloth tape.

The frame,wheelset,stem,headset, brakes,skewers,levers I purchased new
and the rest are in excellent condition.Asking $1,400 shipped






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[RBW] Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Don't know why this seemed funny. Perhaps slightly off-color, even. Defintely 
safe for work!

But if you use the Nitto saddlebag grip with a SaddleSack Medium (or, probably, 
Large or Small), this works very well for carrying Splats, wet or dry.

Can't use 'em if ya don't got 'em with!

http://db.tt/fnbnIVV
http://db.tt/W8d3b1H

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread Daniel M
Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.

The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
else.


DM

On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.

 Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
 cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
 brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
 so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
 close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
 route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.

 Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
 (back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
 been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
 newfangled stoppythingies.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

  If it doesn't rub its okay..

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 Brooks Saddles

2010-11-29 Thread Naz Hamid
And the Swift! Thanks all.

On Nov 28, 9:36 am, Naz Hamid absen...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Imperial is sold.

 On Nov 27, 2:02 pm, Naz Hamid absen...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hello all,

  I have two Brooks saddles for sale.

  1)

  First up is a 3-year old Brooks Swift, black with titanium rails. I
  only rode it for about two years and not too regularly — the other
  half of the time, I was riding my race bikes. It's in fair to good
  condition. Included is a sparingly used tin of Proofide. $130 shipped
  USPS priority or $120 local pick up in San Francisco.

  Photos below:http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/19185/1/brooksswift?h=2ddd87

  2)

  My wife recently got a Sam Hillborne which she loves and we built it
  up with a Brooks Imperial (Men's) in Antique Brown with chrome rails.
  Unfortunately, the saddle didn't agree with her and she went back to
  getting another Specialized BG Women's saddle which she's been riding
  forever on her Waterford. So, after a brief 10 miles, the saddle is
  back in the box with all the extras (spare laces, spanner) for someone
  to provide a new home to. $120 shipped USPS Priority or $110 local
  pick-up in San Francisco.

  Photos below:http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/19185/1/brooksimperial?h=09091c

  You can email me at absen...@gmail.com.

  Thanks for looking,
  Naz.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet 54cm complete

2010-11-29 Thread Johnny Alien
Sold.

On Nov 28, 4:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 The wheels are 105 hubs with Araya rims.  The sttem is a 90mm Nitto
 Deluxe.

 Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Earl Grey
I think that should be Hill-a-pillar. I am waiting for some close-out
Kenda 40s for my Sam (still looking for a 700C Hetre), though for true
Hunqafication I throw on 42mm knobbies (IRC Mythos XC Slicks).

Gernot

On Nov 9, 5:51 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I only shellack cloth bar tape.  I accidentally splatter frames with
 shellac, but that's all.

 Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne.  When the
 Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and
 taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt.

 On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:



  Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
  what you did.

  This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
  These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
  boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
  each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
  clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
  linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
  (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
  6' length of 1/2 metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
  inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
  in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
  capital I on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
  to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
  rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
  strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.

  On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
   In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
   shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
   and ditch the can.

   On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
   My project is converting a ~1980 Takara Overland touring bike I
   acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
   about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
   funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.

   On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
(drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.

What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Earl Grey
In case you don't really like V-brakes (I don't), you can get a fork-
crown mounted cable hanger for cantis from Tektro, which will solve
the bar adjustment issue. Very slick and eliminates brake squeal, too.
But not compatible with a Nitto Mini Front. :(

Gernot


On Nov 9, 8:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 My Rivendell project for the winter - change my Sam Hillborne over to
 V-brakes.  Should make it easier to adjust handlebar height.  Maybe,
 possibly add a pair of interruptor levers too.  Then fret and worry
 for a while about what type of handlebar tape to install.  Then pull
 it off in frustration and just go back to black cork.

 Might also swap out the crankset.  Might have just kilt my third BB in
 less than two years of the bike.  Could replace.  Or just put on the
 external BB Deore crank I have.  (Which has been on this bike before
 and does the job.)

 Yeah, and ride, too.  But not my Rivendell outside.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Nov 8, 5:40 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  What to do in the winter?

  RIDE!

  Serious, for me summers are HOT and SMOGGY.  Yuck.  Winters are just
  awesome, just wish the days were longer!

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Re: [RBW] The Lady loves her Atlantis

2010-11-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/28/10 11:47 AM, doug peterson at dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
(snipped)
  On the
 way home she was musing about other potential weekend tours, so I see
 lots of mileage in the future for Mini-lantis.

Sounds like the start of a beautiful friendship.  Thanks for sharing that
story - here's to the miles to come!

- J

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The bike between her legs was like some hyper-evolved alien tail she'd
somehow extruded, as though over patient centuries; a sweet and intricate
bone-machine, grown Lexan-armored tires, near-frictionless bearings, and gas
filled shocks.

William Gibson - Virtual Light


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[RBW] FS: Speedplay Frogs Cromoly

2010-11-29 Thread Johnny Alien
I rode these for about 40 miles or so. I don't think I want to do
clipless.  Basically as new and will come in the factory box.

$90 shipped

I also have a a brand new set of Specialized MTB shoes if someone is
interested.  They are black and gray. I wear a 9 1/2 sneaker.  I can
post photos of that tomorrow.

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Frankwurst
Build My Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe
reconfigure my Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount.
Maybe sell a bike or two so I can buy something else I don't need but
seem to think I should have.

On Nov 8, 12:10 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
 projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
 are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
 overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
 not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
 configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
 now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
 (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
 opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.

 What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
 through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
 project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread William
Why do you consider the Tektro hanger not compatible with the Nitto
mini?  I run that set up on the Bombadil and plan on putting on the
Hillborne also.

On Nov 29, 8:00 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 In case you don't really like V-brakes (I don't), you can get a fork-
 crown mounted cable hanger for cantis from Tektro, which will solve
 the bar adjustment issue. Very slick and eliminates brake squeal, too.
 But not compatible with a Nitto Mini Front. :(

 Gernot

 On Nov 9, 8:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

  My Rivendell project for the winter - change my Sam Hillborne over to
  V-brakes.  Should make it easier to adjust handlebar height.  Maybe,
  possibly add a pair of interruptor levers too.  Then fret and worry
  for a while about what type of handlebar tape to install.  Then pull
  it off in frustration and just go back to black cork.

  Might also swap out the crankset.  Might have just kilt my third BB in
  less than two years of the bike.  Could replace.  Or just put on the
  external BB Deore crank I have.  (Which has been on this bike before
  and does the job.)

  Yeah, and ride, too.  But not my Rivendell outside.

  Eric Platt
  St. Paul, MN

  On Nov 8, 5:40 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   What to do in the winter?

   RIDE!

   Serious, for me summers are HOT and SMOGGY.  Yuck.  Winters are just
   awesome, just wish the days were longer!



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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread BPustow
Now, that's the spirit! May I use you as a reference to my wife?
Bill
Louisville, Ky
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2010 12:07:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
fbr...@jwperry.com writes:

Build My  Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe
reconfigure my  Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount.
Maybe sell a bike or  two so I can buy something else I don't need but
seem to think I should  have.


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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Jon Grant
Re: winter projects, Frankwurst wrote:

Build my Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe
reconfigure my Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount. Maybe
sell a bike or two so I can buy something else I don't need but seem to
think I should  have.

Bill of Louisville then asked:

Now, that's the spirit! May I use you as a reference to my wife?

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under the bus all the time.

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Frankwurst
Sure!  My wife threw in the towel long a go.

On Nov 29, 11:19 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote:
 Now, that's the spirit! May I use you as a reference to my wife?
 Bill
 Louisville, Ky

 In a message dated 11/29/2010 12:07:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  

 fbr...@jwperry.com writes:

 Build My  Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe
 reconfigure my  Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount.
 Maybe sell a bike or  two so I can buy something else I don't need but
 seem to think I should  have.

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[RBW] Correct link wire for front Avid Shorty 4 (older style)?

2010-11-29 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Howdy folks.

I am going to try one of these brakes on the front of my fixie porteur and
I'm thinking using a link wire might be a good idea.  Alas, they come in 5
different lengths and I have no idea which one is the normal size.  Google
didn't turn up anything helpful.  I may go with a traditional straddle wire
and hanger, but I would like to know which link wire is correct just the
same.  Anybody know?

Thanks, Doug

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[RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts

2010-11-29 Thread William
My Oursons came in today.  They look just great.  I like the Panaracer
packaging (heat sealed plastic bag).  Minimalist, yet keeps them
clean, and I imagine keeps them protected from aging somewhat.

Now the question is whether to start riding them right away or keep
them packaged up for later?  These Oursons could be a good mixed
terrain tire, but my East Bay trails get so muddy that I can't really
do that type of ride nearby until summer.

On Nov 23, 10:37 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The top of my beverage refrigerator resembles this remark  (Nifty-Swifty,
 Maxy Fasty, CdlV, spare Oursons, Cypres, speedblends...and then there are the
 26 tires for the Ram...)

 
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com

  dozen or more different tires on their mountain bikes and
 just stack them up in their garage in a floppy pile.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts

2010-11-29 Thread Bruce
My Oursons have 1,300 mi  (on a Saluki) on them and show very little wear, if 
any. At 65 PSI, they are a reasonably fast road tire that still has a forgiving 
nature over chipseal. At 50 PSI they are a very comfortable multi-surface tire.

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 12:37 PM

My Oursons came in today.  They look just great.  I like the Panaracer
packaging (heat sealed plastic bag).  Minimalist, yet keeps them
clean, and I imagine keeps them protected from aging somewhat.

Now the question is whether to start riding them right away or keep
them packaged up for later?  These Oursons could be a good mixed
terrain tire, but my East Bay trails get so muddy that I can't really
do that type of ride nearby until summer.



  

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[RBW] Re: Correct link wire for front Avid Shorty 4 (older style)?

2010-11-29 Thread Jeremy Till
I have tektro oryx's on my touring bike, which I'm pretty sure have
the same basic geometry as the older shortys.  I used the 93 degree
link wires last time i replaced the cables, and they work fine:

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/BR408Z34-Tektro+Z+Link+Wire.aspx

You could probably get away with one of the 82 degree sets as well,
which would imitate the function of a shorter/lower straddle cable; i
might try that that on another set i recent picked up for another bike
but have yet to install.  I love the simplicity of set-up with link
wires.

On Nov 29, 10:04 am, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy folks.

 I am going to try one of these brakes on the front of my fixie porteur and
 I'm thinking using a link wire might be a good idea.  Alas, they come in 5
 different lengths and I have no idea which one is the normal size.  Google
 didn't turn up anything helpful.  I may go with a traditional straddle wire
 and hanger, but I would like to know which link wire is correct just the
 same.  Anybody know?

 Thanks, Doug

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[RBW] Re: FS: Selle An-Atomica Titanico saddle

2010-11-29 Thread stevep33
Sold.

On Nov 28, 3:21 pm, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
 FS: Selle An-Atomica Titanico saddle.  Used about 600 miles, great
 condition.  I think the color is called mahogany - it's a dark brown
 with a hint of red.

 ** I drilled the bottom edges of the saddle and laced it in a bit.
 This pulls in the edges of the saddle that can otherwise flare out and
 chafe the rider's upper thighs. See pictures.

 $70 (shipping included in the continental US).
 Payment by PayPal

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/5215002453/http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/5215594158/http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/5215003101/

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RE: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

2010-11-29 Thread Frederick, Steve
Thanks!  I got more compliments on the bike since I put on the white accents 
last spring than I have in all the years I've owned it.

The superflash mount--I just ran a brazeon/waterbottle screw though the hole 
for the screw that mounts the quick release mount to the seatpost clamp.  Hole 
was a little small but it's plastic so the bolt cut threads as I turned it in.  
It works okay but tends to rotate down over time...

Steve
 
-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:07 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?


That looks really nice Steve!

How did you attach the SuperFlash rear light?...it almost looks like
it us capture by the quick release.

Thanks

Angus

On Nov 27, 6:27 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
wrote:
 My orange one's RB0202, still spiffily sporting the white tape/saddle combo:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4479756577/

 Anyone got a double-digit one?  (or single!?)

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of SStalcup
 Sent: Fri 11/26/2010 6:45 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

 I have RB0600 sold by Peter White as a frame.

 On Nov 18, 12:21 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
  on 11/18/10 9:40 AM, NickBull at nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote:

   But the SN's must not be precisely sequential, or at least something
   is off since SN #1163 is greater than the total made =
   693+432=1125

   Mine is RB0453.

  Is yours an orange Rambouillet?  I sort of (not anywhere to verify right
  now) recall that there was a bit of a production gap between the first run
  (orange) and the first blue runs (separate printed flyer).  It wouldn't
  suprise me if they restarted the s/n's at RB1XXX with the new run.  But this
  is conjecture on my part.

  In other words, can anyone supply a low-numbered (under 1000) factory-blue
  Rambouillet serial number?

  Thanks for playing!

  - Jim

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  not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles.
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[RBW] FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Beardpapa
Lots of goodies.  Please email me with questions or if you feel the
price is unfair.

1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
shipped
2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
but good condition)  - $40 shipped
3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
35mm tires!) - $50 shipped
6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
once) - $90 shipped
7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 8mm 25.4 (like new) $60
shipped
9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
shipped
10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $70
shipped
11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
Comes with XT headset. - $250 shipped
12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
(used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $150 shipped
13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped
14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped
15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shifters (used condition) - $45 shipped
16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
(frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped
19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
condition) - $40

Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread Mike
Don't ask, don't tell is a great household policy for dealing with
bike expenditures.

At my wedding a friend gave me great advice, he said Anytime you buy
something new for your bike just tell your wife you got it off Ebay
for $5.

On Nov 29, 9:45 am, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote:
 Sure!  My wife threw in the towel long a go.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Correct link wire for front Avid Shorty 4 (older style)?

2010-11-29 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Thanks Jeremy

I think you're right that they are generally similar.  I ran into this a few
years ago and somehow came to the conclusion that the 82mm/B version was
correct, but since I couldn't remember how exactly I decided that it seemed
like asking again was a good idea...  Based on Sheldon's info (and if I
understand it), the shorter cable should be a bit better as the angle on
these brakes is a bit less than the 90* ideal so I will probably go with the
82mm.  I was originally thinking that with a front rack it is harder to keep
an eye on things, so the link wire would add some safety, but with a fender
the straddle cable can't drop into the tire anyway so it would be for
ease/convenience...

Regards, Doug


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have tektro oryx's on my touring bike, which I'm pretty sure have
 the same basic geometry as the older shortys.  I used the 93 degree
 link wires last time i replaced the cables, and they work fine:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/BR408Z34-Tektro+Z+Link+Wire.aspx

 You could probably get away with one of the 82 degree sets as well,
 which would imitate the function of a shorter/lower straddle cable; i
 might try that that on another set i recent picked up for another bike
 but have yet to install.  I love the simplicity of set-up with link
 wires.

 On Nov 29, 10:04 am, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote:
  Howdy folks.
 
  I am going to try one of these brakes on the front of my fixie porteur
 and
  I'm thinking using a link wire might be a good idea.  Alas, they come in
 5
  different lengths and I have no idea which one is the normal size.
  Google
  didn't turn up anything helpful.  I may go with a traditional straddle
 wire
  and hanger, but I would like to know which link wire is correct just the
  same.  Anybody know?
 
  Thanks, Doug


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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-29 Thread SFF
Tomorrow I have the opportunity to level the playing field with my
wife. Her beautiful Betty Foy is scheduled to arrive!! So now when a
Rivendell package shows up at the front door, I can say...oh yes, I
got you a little something for your bike. This was an expensive
plan...but I think it will work out great in the long run.

Joel

On Nov 29, 1:17 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't ask, don't tell is a great household policy for dealing with
 bike expenditures.

 At my wedding a friend gave me great advice, he said Anytime you buy
 something new for your bike just tell your wife you got it off Ebay
 for $5.

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  Sure!  My wife threw in the towel long a go.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread RoadieRyan
+1 on V brakes with the Tektro road levers.  I have them set up with
some Avid V brakes on my Handsome Devil.  Overall I still prefer
sidepulls for set up and adjustment but I like the V's over the
Canti's.

R

On Nov 29, 12:07 am, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
 had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
 Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
 superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
 coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
 needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
 perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
 apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.

 The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
 than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
 simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
 else.

 DM

 On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

  Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.

  Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
  cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
  brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
  so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
  close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
  route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.

  Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
  (back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
  been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
  newfangled stoppythingies.

  Eric Platt
  St. Paul, MN

  On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

   If it doesn't rub its okay..

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[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread Michael_S
V brakes had their place in the evolution of braking IMO. For big
knobby tired bikes( 2.3 inches+) they were better than poorly adjusted
canti's. On those same MTB bike they have been replaced by disc brakes
almost exclusively.   A well adjusted good quality cantilever brake is
just as powerful  and is orders of magnitude better looking. The
mismatched, unsymetrical arms of the V brake look out of place on a
beautiful Rivendell bike. :-}

~Mike~

On Nov 29, 12:05 pm, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 on V brakes with the Tektro road levers.  I have them set up with
 some Avid V brakes on my Handsome Devil.  Overall I still prefer
 sidepulls for set up and adjustment but I like the V's over the
 Canti's.

 R

 On Nov 29, 12:07 am, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote:



  Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
  had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
  Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
  superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
  coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
  needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
  perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
  apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.

  The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
  than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
  simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
  else.

  DM

  On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

   Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.

   Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
   cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
   brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
   so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
   close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
   route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.

   Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
   (back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
   been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
   newfangled stoppythingies.

   Eric Platt
   St. Paul, MN

   On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

If it doesn't rub its okay..- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread williwoods
I have to disagree with some of the statements.

V-brakes are just easier not to screw up during setup (fewer
adjustments, fewer things to setup wrong), thats really the only major
advantage, there is a small leverage benefit but canti's have better
modulation in general.

If you setup Canti's properly and run the right brake pads and proper
short pull levers they will stop as well as any cable actuated rim
brake will maybe even as good as cable discs. I have bikes that run
Canti's that you can lock up the wheels with 1 finger. I have also
used V-brakes that sucked.

The trick is older Canti's can be a pain to setup right, Im talking XT
cantilever brakes here or similar. Or really any kind that uses the
plain non-threaded post mount brake pads, except the 90's Avid
Cantilever brakes those are the best for setup ever. Most of it is
about geometry though. You have to have the Straddle cable setup right
and then have to have the brake pads hitting the rim at 90 degrees and
toed in, most of the poorly performing Canti brakes are not adjusted
to the correct geometry. Proper setup of Canti Brakes is a bit of a
lost art these days.


Nowadays the Tektro CR720 Cantilever Brakes are just about as easy to
setup as V brakes, mostly due to the fact that they use regular V-
brake style brake pads. The only thing more fiddly on these is setting
up the straddle cable correctly. The Pauls would also be just as easy
to setup right, or again any canti brake that uses the threaded V
brake brake pads.


anyway thats my 2 cents.

Will


On Nov 29, 12:05 pm, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 on V brakes with the Tektro road levers.  I have them set up with
 some Avid V brakes on my Handsome Devil.  Overall I still prefer
 sidepulls for set up and adjustment but I like the V's over the
 Canti's.

 R

 On Nov 29, 12:07 am, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote:



  Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
  had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
  Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
  superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
  coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
  needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
  perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
  apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.

  The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
  than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
  simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
  else.

  DM

  On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

   Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.

   Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
   cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
   brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
   so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
   close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
   route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.

   Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
   (back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
   been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
   newfangled stoppythingies.

   Eric Platt
   St. Paul, MN

   On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

If it doesn't rub its okay..

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Beardpapa
Update list with update prices as well.

1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
shipped
2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
but good condition)  - $40 shipped
3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
once) - $90 shipped
7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
shipped
9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
shipped
10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
shipped
11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
(used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
(frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
condition) - $40 (Sold)

Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Jon Grant
Hey,

What size are those Big Apples. please?

Thanks!
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From: Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com
Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:51:05 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset,
cranks, derailleurs

Update list with update prices as well.

1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
shipped
2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
but good condition)  - $40 shipped
3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
once) - $90 shipped
7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
shipped
9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
shipped
10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
shipped
11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
(used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
(frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
condition) - $40 (Sold)

Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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[RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts

2010-11-29 Thread William
Aha!  and the Winter 2010 BQ magazine is also in the box.  Score!

On Nov 29, 10:47 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My Oursons have 1,300 mi  (on a Saluki) on them and show very little wear, if 
 any. At 65 PSI, they are a reasonably fast road tire that still has a 
 forgiving nature over chipseal. At 50 PSI they are a very comfortable 
 multi-surface tire.

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 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 12:37 PM

 My Oursons came in today.  They look just great.  I like the Panaracer
 packaging (heat sealed plastic bag).  Minimalist, yet keeps them
 clean, and I imagine keeps them protected from aging somewhat.

 Now the question is whether to start riding them right away or keep
 them packaged up for later?  These Oursons could be a good mixed
 terrain tire, but my East Bay trails get so muddy that I can't really
 do that type of ride nearby until summer.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Beardpapa
Schwalbe Big Apples are 26 x 2.1

On Nov 29, 3:51 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:
 Update list with update prices as well.

 1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
 shipped
 2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
 but good condition)  - $40 shipped
 3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
 35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
 6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
 once) - $90 shipped
 7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
 8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
 shipped
 9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
 shipped
 10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
 shipped
 11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
 Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
 12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
 (used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
 13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
 14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
 15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
 16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
 17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
 (frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
 groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
 18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
 19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
 condition) - $40 (Sold)

 Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Jim M.
What size is the MB Zip?

On Nov 29, 1:51 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:
 Update list with update prices as well.

 1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
 shipped
 2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
 but good condition)  - $40 shipped
 3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
 35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
 6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
 once) - $90 shipped
 7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
 8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
 shipped
 9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
 shipped
 10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
 shipped
 11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
 Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
 12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
 (used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
 13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
 14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
 15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
 16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
 17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
 (frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
 groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
 18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
 19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
 condition) - $40 (Sold)

 Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Beardpapa
The MB-Zip is a small.  54 TT, 42 ST (17)  According to the
catalogue, this would be listed as a 42.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1990/pages/bridgestone-1990-21.htm

On Nov 29, 4:43 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 What size is the MB Zip?

 On Nov 29, 1:51 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:







  Update list with update prices as well.

  1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
  shipped
  2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
  but good condition)  - $40 shipped
  3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
  35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
  6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
  once) - $90 shipped
  7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
  8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
  shipped
  9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
  shipped
  10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
  shipped
  11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
  Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
  12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
  (used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
  13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
  14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
  15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
  16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
  17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
  (frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
  groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
  18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
  19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
  condition) - $40 (Sold)

  Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rawland Drakkar complete bike medium Stronglight compact crank etc.

2010-11-29 Thread hobie
FS: Correction on the price of the medium Rawland Drakkar. The correct
price is $1,300. shipped.

On Nov 29, 9:59 am, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Rawland Drakkar medium green sparkle Columbus Zona Nivacrom tubing.The
 frame was purchased from Rawland late spring of this year. I finished
 the build 3 months later so the bike has seen very little usage. I can
 describe the ride as quick and nimble,and very responsive, climbs
 excellent. Overall a very nice bike with the option to use 700c wheels
 or 650b.Tons of clearence for both size wheels.Beautiful Pacenti Bi-
 plane lugged fork crown. Fender and rack mounts 3- water bottle
 bosses. The bike can do it all. Won Best in Show award at the Rough
 Riders rally annual shindig this past summer. The build is as follows:

 1- Velocity Blunt 28mm wide 650b silver rims laced to DT Hugi Hayes
 Swiss made silver disc hubs,w. Salsa flip off skewers silver and
 Panaracer Fatty Rumpkins
 2- Avid BB7 disc brakes
 3- Nitto UI-5gx threadless stem
 4- Cane Creek S3 threadless headset
 5- Soma Moustache bars
 6- Tektro Drop v brake levers
 7- Selle An-Atomica Titanico Watershed brown saddle
 8- Control Tech 27.2 silver seatpost
 9- Shimano bar end shifters 8 speed
 10-Shimano LX rear derailer
 11- Shimano 8 speed cassette
 12- Campagnola Chorus double front derailer
 13- Stronglight Isis Compact double 29 concept crankset 44t/29t 7075
 rings 175mm
 14- Stronglight Isis BB
 15- Panaracer Fatty Rumpkin 650b tires
 16- New Brown cloth tape.

 The frame,wheelset,stem,headset, brakes,skewers,levers I purchased new
 and the rest are in excellent condition.Asking $1,400 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread EricP
Nice.  And convenient.  Need to order a pair and see how it works with
the small.

BTW, what did you use to wrap the Nitto saddlebag grip?  Appears
worthy of imitation.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Nov 29, 8:58 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
 Don't know why this seemed funny. Perhaps slightly off-color, even. Defintely 
 safe for work!

 But if you use the Nitto saddlebag grip with a SaddleSack Medium (or, 
 probably, Large or Small), this works very well for carrying Splats, wet or 
 dry.

 Can't use 'em if ya don't got 'em with!

 http://db.tt/fnbnIVVhttp://db.tt/W8d3b1H

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread William
Those FLINT bricks are pretty slick, tooand your saddlesack is
delightfully beausaged

On Nov 29, 5:25 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Nice.  And convenient.  Need to order a pair and see how it works with
 the small.

 BTW, what did you use to wrap the Nitto saddlebag grip?  Appears
 worthy of imitation.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Nov 29, 8:58 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  Don't know why this seemed funny. Perhaps slightly off-color, even. 
  Defintely safe for work!

  But if you use the Nitto saddlebag grip with a SaddleSack Medium (or, 
  probably, Large or Small), this works very well for carrying Splats, wet or 
  dry.

  Can't use 'em if ya don't got 'em with!

 http://db.tt/fnbnIVVhttp://db.tt/W8d3b1H

  Yours,
  Thomas Lynn Skean



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Re: [RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread cyclotourist
Basically every improvement in bicycle components  design over the last
two decades has been to make build ups faster.  They may or may not improve
things on the bike, usually neutral at best.  Consider the following:

V-brakes:  check
outboard BB bearings:  check
threadless headsets:  check
compact frames:  check

All these are fine and good, and don't hurt anything, but are really
unnecessary. They let a factory put more bikes out and let the shops
assemble them faster (with less customer complaints).  The problem is that
they're marketed as improvements which they aren't for the end user.  And
they make perfectly good parts and designs outdated, which bugs most of us
here.

My $.02 for the evening.


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:46 PM, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have to disagree with some of the statements.

 V-brakes are just easier not to screw up during setup (fewer
 adjustments, fewer things to setup wrong), thats really the only major
 advantage, there is a small leverage benefit but canti's have better
 modulation in general.

 If you setup Canti's properly and run the right brake pads and proper
 short pull levers they will stop as well as any cable actuated rim
 brake will maybe even as good as cable discs. I have bikes that run
 Canti's that you can lock up the wheels with 1 finger. I have also
 used V-brakes that sucked.

 The trick is older Canti's can be a pain to setup right, Im talking XT
 cantilever brakes here or similar. Or really any kind that uses the
 plain non-threaded post mount brake pads, except the 90's Avid
 Cantilever brakes those are the best for setup ever. Most of it is
 about geometry though. You have to have the Straddle cable setup right
 and then have to have the brake pads hitting the rim at 90 degrees and
 toed in, most of the poorly performing Canti brakes are not adjusted
 to the correct geometry. Proper setup of Canti Brakes is a bit of a
 lost art these days.


 Nowadays the Tektro CR720 Cantilever Brakes are just about as easy to
 setup as V brakes, mostly due to the fact that they use regular V-
 brake style brake pads. The only thing more fiddly on these is setting
 up the straddle cable correctly. The Pauls would also be just as easy
 to setup right, or again any canti brake that uses the threaded V
 brake brake pads.


 anyway thats my 2 cents.

 Will


 On Nov 29, 12:05 pm, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
  +1 on V brakes with the Tektro road levers.  I have them set up with
  some Avid V brakes on my Handsome Devil.  Overall I still prefer
  sidepulls for set up and adjustment but I like the V's over the
  Canti's.
 
  R
 
  On Nov 29, 12:07 am, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
   had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
   Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
   superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
   coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
   needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
   perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
   apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.
 
   The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
   than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
   simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
   else.
 
   DM
 
   On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 
Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.
 
Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.
 
Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
(back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
newfangled stoppythingies.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
 
On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 If it doesn't rub its okay..

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[RBW] Re: Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread amoll68
Yup, dig it.

What do you think of the Splats anyway?

I'm planning to order a pair to try them out. Function trumps Form -
when it's nasty.

Best,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

2010-11-29 Thread Beardpapa
Update.  Here's what's still available:

1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) -
$20
2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
but good condition)  - $30
6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
once) - $75
7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $50
8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 8mm 25.4 (like new) $50
9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
Comes with XT headset. - $150
12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
(used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100
16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $60

On Nov 29, 4:55 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:
 The MB-Zip is a small.  54 TT, 42 ST (17)  According to the
 catalogue, this would be listed as a 
 42.http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1990/pages/bridgestone-1990-2...

 On Nov 29, 4:43 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:







  What size is the MB Zip?

  On Nov 29, 1:51 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:

   Update list with update prices as well.

   1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
   shipped
   2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
   but good condition)  - $40 shipped
   3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
   35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
   6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
   once) - $90 shipped
   7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
   8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
   shipped
   9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
   shipped
   10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
   shipped
   11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
   Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
   12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
   (used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
   13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
   14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
   15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
   16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
   17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
   (frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
   groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
   18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
   19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
   condition) - $40 (Sold)

   Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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Re: [RBW] Re: Margarita Mixed Metric

2010-11-29 Thread cyclotourist
Possibly in...

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:40 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be done!!

 There are more backroad loops up there than any other place I know.
 This could skirt the Great western Bicycle Rally if any of our
 contingent were thinking of making it a longer trip.  There is so much
 possible with this.  Camping abounds in the region.

 Rob
 -
 http://oceanaircycles.com/

 On Nov 28, 10:09 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
  This is awesome.
 
  We should figure out a summit meeting/ride of the Northern California
 Rivendell bunch and the Southern California Rivendell bunch and do it in
 this area (about halfway between LA and SF). We could stir up some trouble
 at the Pozo Saloon.
 
  On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Robert Perks wrote:
 
 
 
   I made it out yesterday for a mixed terrain ride in the hills south of
 Atascadero, Ca.  Things unexpectedly turned into a metric century on a
 beautiful but cold day.  Still frost is better than snow anyday in my book.
  Lots of country back roads, a little hike a bike and some incredible
 mountain dirt roads.  This area is a cyling wonderland.  Now it is time to
 figure out how to make a living in a place like this.  Short version of the
 pics here:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625352786821/
 
   and a full write up of the day here, still getting the full set of
 pictures put together
  http://oceanaircycles.com/2010/11/27/magarita-mixed-metric/
 
   Thanks for taking a look
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   oceanaircycles.com
 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rawland Drakkar complete bike medium Stronglight compact crank etc.

2010-11-29 Thread Bill M.
Nice bike!  Luckily it's a size too big for me, or I'd be way too
tempted.

http://www.xo-1.org/2010/09/sean-virnig-and-rawland-drakkar-win.html

Bill

On Nov 29, 6:59 am, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Rawland Drakkar medium green sparkle Columbus Zona Nivacrom tubing.The
 frame was purchased from Rawland late spring of this year. I finished
 the build 3 months later so the bike has seen very little usage. I can
 describe the ride as quick and nimble,and very responsive, climbs
 excellent. Overall a very nice bike with the option to use 700c wheels
 or 650b.Tons of clearence for both size wheels.Beautiful Pacenti Bi-
 plane lugged fork crown. Fender and rack mounts 3- water bottle
 bosses. The bike can do it all. Won Best in Show award at the Rough
 Riders rally annual shindig this past summer. The build is as follows:

 1- Velocity Blunt 28mm wide 650b silver rims laced to DT Hugi Hayes
 Swiss made silver disc hubs,w. Salsa flip off skewers silver and
 Panaracer Fatty Rumpkins
 2- Avid BB7 disc brakes
 3- Nitto UI-5gx threadless stem
 4- Cane Creek S3 threadless headset
 5- Soma Moustache bars
 6- Tektro Drop v brake levers
 7- Selle An-Atomica Titanico Watershed brown saddle
 8- Control Tech 27.2 silver seatpost
 9- Shimano bar end shifters 8 speed
 10-Shimano LX rear derailer
 11- Shimano 8 speed cassette
 12- Campagnola Chorus double front derailer
 13- Stronglight Isis Compact double 29 concept crankset 44t/29t 7075
 rings 175mm
 14- Stronglight Isis BB
 15- Panaracer Fatty Rumpkin 650b tires
 16- New Brown cloth tape.

 The frame,wheelset,stem,headset, brakes,skewers,levers I purchased new
 and the rest are in excellent condition.Asking $1,400 shipped

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Re: [RBW] Re: Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
The grip cover is part of an elkhide city grip from VO. Didn't need the whole 
length of one grip. I kept thinking it would come off. But after about a couple 
years of daily beausage it has not. That waxed thread is tough stuff.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Nov 29, 2010, at 7:25 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

 Nice.  And convenient.  Need to order a pair and see how it works with
 the small.
 
 BTW, what did you use to wrap the Nitto saddlebag grip?  Appears
 worthy of imitation.
 
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN
 
 On Nov 29, 8:58 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 Don't know why this seemed funny. Perhaps slightly off-color, even. 
 Defintely safe for work!
 
 But if you use the Nitto saddlebag grip with a SaddleSack Medium (or, 
 probably, Large or Small), this works very well for carrying Splats, wet or 
 dry.
 
 Can't use 'em if ya don't got 'em with!
 
 http://db.tt/fnbnIVVhttp://db.tt/W8d3b1H
 
 Yours,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Splat Carrying w/SaddleSack Medium

2010-11-29 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I love 'em. I used them once last week and again today. Today's use was an 
utterly continuous one hour light-to-moderate rain. Result: dry shoes with only 
slightly trickly damp ankles. That's the gold standard for me.

In general they are a great compromise between protection and convenience. 
There may be somewhat superior solutions for people who have skinny shoes. In 
particular, for me, they're pert nigh perfection. They actually completely 
cover my 11.5 Keens! There's enough airflow under them that my feet don't get 
extra damp. And I can put the Splats on just by bending at the waist and 
lifting each foot (consecutively, not concurrently!). No need to find dry land 
to sit on. As the photos show, I can carry them easily. And after tonight's 
ride home I know they work in a good solid hour of rain.

Basically, I had a Splats-shaped void in my commuting life. So I'm very happy 
with them.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:07 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote:

 Yup, dig it.
 
 What do you think of the Splats anyway?
 
 I'm planning to order a pair to try them out. Function trumps Form -
 when it's nasty.
 
 Best,
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 Marysville, WA
 
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[RBW] Re: Margarita Mixed Metric

2010-11-29 Thread Michael_S
I smell a Rivendell mixed terrain weekend... Firestone Brewing,
downtown SLO, backcountry roads...maybe even an s24o?

 April/May is a good time for that area...

~Mike~



On Nov 29, 6:57 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Possibly in...





 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:40 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
  This could be done!!

  There are more backroad loops up there than any other place I know.
  This could skirt the Great western Bicycle Rally if any of our
  contingent were thinking of making it a longer trip.  There is so much
  possible with this.  Camping abounds in the region.

  Rob
  -
 http://oceanaircycles.com/

  On Nov 28, 10:09 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
   This is awesome.

   We should figure out a summit meeting/ride of the Northern California
  Rivendell bunch and the Southern California Rivendell bunch and do it in
  this area (about halfway between LA and SF). We could stir up some trouble
  at the Pozo Saloon.

   On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Robert Perks wrote:

I made it out yesterday for a mixed terrain ride in the hills south of
  Atascadero, Ca.  Things unexpectedly turned into a metric century on a
  beautiful but cold day.  Still frost is better than snow anyday in my book.
   Lots of country back roads, a little hike a bike and some incredible
  mountain dirt roads.  This area is a cyling wonderland.  Now it is time to
  figure out how to make a living in a place like this.  Short version of the
  pics here:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625352786821/

and a full write up of the day here, still getting the full set of
  pictures put together
   http://oceanaircycles.com/2010/11/27/magarita-mixed-metric/

Thanks for taking a look
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Re: [RBW] Re: Margarita Mixed Metric

2010-11-29 Thread cyclotourist
Gotta' show those East Coasters that we can organize ourselves in CA.

Oh, wait...


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 I smell a Rivendell mixed terrain weekend... Firestone Brewing,
 downtown SLO, backcountry roads...maybe even an s24o?

  April/May is a good time for that area...

 ~Mike~



 On Nov 29, 6:57 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Possibly in...
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:40 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
   This could be done!!
 
   There are more backroad loops up there than any other place I know.
   This could skirt the Great western Bicycle Rally if any of our
   contingent were thinking of making it a longer trip.  There is so much
   possible with this.  Camping abounds in the region.
 
   Rob
   -
  http://oceanaircycles.com/
 
   On Nov 28, 10:09 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
This is awesome.
 
We should figure out a summit meeting/ride of the Northern California
   Rivendell bunch and the Southern California Rivendell bunch and do it
 in
   this area (about halfway between LA and SF). We could stir up some
 trouble
   at the Pozo Saloon.
 
On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Robert Perks wrote:
 
 I made it out yesterday for a mixed terrain ride in the hills south
 of
   Atascadero, Ca.  Things unexpectedly turned into a metric century on a
   beautiful but cold day.  Still frost is better than snow anyday in my
 book.
Lots of country back roads, a little hike a bike and some incredible
   mountain dirt roads.  This area is a cyling wonderland.  Now it is time
 to
   figure out how to make a living in a place like this.  Short version of
 the
   pics here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625352786821/
 
 and a full write up of the day here, still getting the full set of
   pictures put together
http://oceanaircycles.com/2010/11/27/magarita-mixed-metric/
 
 Thanks for taking a look
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 oceanaircycles.com
 
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[RBW] Another Lady and her Riv

2010-11-29 Thread Lee
In the vein of Doug's A Lady and Her Atlantis post, I did a little
jaunt around the city with a friend of mine and her new-to-her
Bleriot. The bike was the one that Gino posted on here not too long
ago. My friend had been looking for an upgrade from her old Raleigh
mixte and early 90's Gary Fisher mountain bike. I guess in a certain
way, the Bleriot outfitted with Jitensha flat bars and CdlV/Ourson
tires, is a logical progression. In any event, she loves it and soon
will be joining my friends and I on next season's S240s. And killing
us on the climbs, I'm sure.

Anyway, here are some pics of the ride:
http://tinyurl.com/276jmah

Best,
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Re: [RBW] Another Lady and her Riv

2010-11-29 Thread cyclotourist
Every bike deserves a good home!

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the vein of Doug's A Lady and Her Atlantis post, I did a little
 jaunt around the city with a friend of mine and her new-to-her
 Bleriot. The bike was the one that Gino posted on here not too long
 ago. My friend had been looking for an upgrade from her old Raleigh
 mixte and early 90's Gary Fisher mountain bike. I guess in a certain
 way, the Bleriot outfitted with Jitensha flat bars and CdlV/Ourson
 tires, is a logical progression. In any event, she loves it and soon
 will be joining my friends and I on next season's S240s. And killing
 us on the climbs, I'm sure.

 Anyway, here are some pics of the ride:
 http://tinyurl.com/276jmah

 Best,
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Re: [RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)

2010-11-29 Thread Fai Mao
I would agree with the brakes thing. A canti and V brake have exactly the
same mechanical stopping power. The issue is setup. It is also cable routing
in that liniar pull brake has fewer issues with the cable placement and with
articulated frames. Tha t said, I replace a set of Suntour XC-Pro canti's on
my Sam because I could not get pads for them at the time and the Avid didgit
7 liniar pull brake stops just amazingly well. The problem I had is that the
levers were made for Cantis and don't work great however, that was easily
corrected as well

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:53 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Basically every improvement in bicycle components  design over the last
 two decades has been to make build ups faster.  They may or may not improve
 things on the bike, usually neutral at best.  Consider the following:

 V-brakes:  check
 outboard BB bearings:  check
 threadless headsets:  check
 compact frames:  check

 All these are fine and good, and don't hurt anything, but are really
 unnecessary. They let a factory put more bikes out and let the shops
 assemble them faster (with less customer complaints).  The problem is that
 they're marketed as improvements which they aren't for the end user.  And
 they make perfectly good parts and designs outdated, which bugs most of us
 here.

 My $.02 for the evening.


 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:46 PM, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have to disagree with some of the statements.

 V-brakes are just easier not to screw up during setup (fewer
 adjustments, fewer things to setup wrong), thats really the only major
 advantage, there is a small leverage benefit but canti's have better
 modulation in general.

 If you setup Canti's properly and run the right brake pads and proper
 short pull levers they will stop as well as any cable actuated rim
 brake will maybe even as good as cable discs. I have bikes that run
 Canti's that you can lock up the wheels with 1 finger. I have also
 used V-brakes that sucked.

 The trick is older Canti's can be a pain to setup right, Im talking XT
 cantilever brakes here or similar. Or really any kind that uses the
 plain non-threaded post mount brake pads, except the 90's Avid
 Cantilever brakes those are the best for setup ever. Most of it is
 about geometry though. You have to have the Straddle cable setup right
 and then have to have the brake pads hitting the rim at 90 degrees and
 toed in, most of the poorly performing Canti brakes are not adjusted
 to the correct geometry. Proper setup of Canti Brakes is a bit of a
 lost art these days.


 Nowadays the Tektro CR720 Cantilever Brakes are just about as easy to
 setup as V brakes, mostly due to the fact that they use regular V-
 brake style brake pads. The only thing more fiddly on these is setting
 up the straddle cable correctly. The Pauls would also be just as easy
 to setup right, or again any canti brake that uses the threaded V
 brake brake pads.


 anyway thats my 2 cents.

 Will


 On Nov 29, 12:05 pm, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
   +1 on V brakes with the Tektro road levers.  I have them set up with
  some Avid V brakes on my Handsome Devil.  Overall I still prefer
  sidepulls for set up and adjustment but I like the V's over the
  Canti's.
 
  R
 
  On Nov 29, 12:07 am, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Can I also chime in in favor of V-brakes with Tektro levers?  I have
   had my Hillborne since May built by Rivendell with Deore V-brakes,
   Noodle bars, and Tektro levers and interruptors.  The braking is
   superb.  Loaded touring with tent, sleeping bag, food, clothes, etc,
   coming down paved roads at 35mph, in the drops, and literally only
   needing ONE finger on each lever to moderate slowing/stopping
   perfectly.  I had a Bianchi Volpe with short-arm cantis and needed to
   apply so much pressure in similar situations that my hands ached.
 
   The long-arm cantis that Rivendell sells are doubtless much better
   than the ones that came on my Volpe, but V-brakes are so powerful, so
   simple, and so easy to adjust that I can't imagine using anything
   else.
 
   DM
 
   On Nov 24, 3:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 
Another one who feels that the 113 BB length is good.
 
Will chime in on the brakes - my SH presently has Tektro 720
cantilevers.  The main winter project is switching it over to V
brakes.  The cantis are not bad.  But overall the newer V brakes are
so much nicer for stopping power.  The only cantis, IMO, that come
close are the Pauls.  If price is no object, then, yeah, go that
route.  Otherwise, it's V for me.
 
Oh yeah, my back story is originally riding on old mountain bikes
(back when they were new) and cantilevers were king.  So I've always
been able to set them up.  Even with that, still prefer them
newfangled stoppythingies.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
 
On Nov 24, 12:52 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 If it 

[RBW] Filed down Sugino XD2

2010-11-29 Thread lauren
This spring I bought two used Sugino XD2 triples advertised on this
list to put on a Hunqapillar and a Rawland Drakkar i knew we'd be
getting in the fall. I'm still waiting on the Hunqapillar, but I took
out the crankset to build up the Drakkar that arrived last weekend to
find that it had been filed down on the inside. My fault, for not
asking for photos beforehand, I suppose, but I'm wondering if it's
safe to use. I contacted the seller and he said he didn't know it had
been filed down.

Photos here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/otterbean/sets/72157625369398923/with/5218962658/

Soliciting opinions: Is it okay to use or should we get another?

Comparing it to my other, perfectly intact XD2, it looks like about
3-4 mm has been filed off the inside and a little bit into the square
hole has been filed away as well meaning that a lot less surface area
is contacting the surface area than would usually do so (that's my
guess at least). We put it on and it seems to fit snug for riding
around town, but I can't decide whether it would hold up to harder
riding (the rider is ~185 lbs).

I know we should just buy another one, but we're already scraping the
bottom of the barrel to build these bikes up so if I can safely make
use of my $80 spent then all the better.

Any insight/ideas much appreciated.

Thanks,
Lauren

ps. If anyone has a triple right XD2 175 mm crank arm they'd like to
sell let me know.

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