RE: [RBW] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12, SD, few more photos

2011-02-17 Thread jim phillips

Excellent! Very nice pics!

JimP

 Subject: [RBW] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12, SD, few more photos
 From: jimcwar...@earthlink.net
 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:25:06 -0800
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 I also want to publicly thank Dustin for creating the route and hosting our 
 post-ride meal. It was a perfect day with great people.
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157626043155664/
 
 
 
 -Jim W.
 
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[RBW] Re: FS: bits and pieces

2011-02-17 Thread Ken Freeman
How does this V-O rack attach?  Is it one with an integral decaleur or
a separate decaleur?

On Feb 17, 6:11 am, Rod C rodc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Trying to get some other gear so I'm selling some items
 that I'm not using.

 All items except the bottom bracket have seen some use.
 I take care of my things so they're well cared for.
 The most used item are the Dinotte Lights.  Mostly the headlight.
 Rarely used the taillight.

 Please message me directly if interested in any of the following:
 I'll send you photos upon request.

 VELO ORANGE RACK (latest model) with DECALEUR $60 SHIPPED CONUS

 VELO ORANGE THREADLESS STEM 26.0/ 70MM/ 17D RISE/ $20 SHIPPED CONUS

 OSTRICH HANDLEBAR BAG $90 SHIPPED CONUS

 SHIMANO 105 SILVER FRONT BRAKE  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 LEZYNE MTB PUMP $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 TOPEAK LARGE MASTER BLASTER PUMP  $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 DINOTTE LIGHT SET/ 200 LI FRONT LAMP/ 140 REAR LAMP/ 2 LI-ION
 BATTERIES/ CHARGER/CABLES/ O-RINGS/ CLAMPS  $150 SHIPPED CONUS

 TANGE 110 BB SQUARE TAPER $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI SUNGLASSES BLACK POLARIZED  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI GLASSES BLACK W/CLEAR LENSES $30 SHIPPED CONUS

 Thanks

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[RBW] Re: A couple of mech questions: chainsuck and a noisy BB

2011-02-17 Thread Paul Yeoh
Thanks again to everyone for your replies.

Doug: I'm getting it mostly on the granny ring, sometimes on the
middle, with the rear derailer on the smaller cogs. Almost exclusively
on dirty, so probably fairly bumpy.

Cyclofiend: Hmm... its hard to say. I will have to get some opinions
from Gernot and Kip when I see them.

Michael: The XD2 is totally stock.

Thomas: Yes, I emailed Keven about the different spindle sizes and he
replied to say the site was out of date with regards to that little
fact. Thanks for sharing your configuration info.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wow, that's great.I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
 gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
 easier to swap among bikes.


If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
every time the spacing is changed.

It

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike 
 matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wow, that's great.I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
 gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
 easier to swap among bikes.


 If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
 every time the spacing is changed.

 It

Sorry, I hit send too soon.

It's not as easy as putting on new endcaps, popping on the the bike
and going for a ride.

Jay Hartman

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread newenglandbike
Although, you have a point about rim position.OTOH, re-dish is
quicker than rebuild with different hub

On Feb 17, 9:45 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote:



  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike 
  matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

  Wow, that's great.    I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
  gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
  easier to swap among bikes.

  If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
  every time the spacing is changed.

  It

 Sorry, I hit send too soon.

 It's not as easy as putting on new endcaps, popping on the the bike
 and going for a ride.

 Jay Hartman

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread newenglandbike
good point, but a redish can be done;  we have the technology :)



On Feb 17, 9:45 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote:



  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike 
  matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

  Wow, that's great.    I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
  gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
  easier to swap among bikes.

  If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
  every time the spacing is changed.

  It

 Sorry, I hit send too soon.

 It's not as easy as putting on new endcaps, popping on the the bike
 and going for a ride.

 Jay Hartman

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread newenglandbike
Yes, if you are especially assiduous about your chainline.for me
it would be relatively easy to go from say 121 to 126 with an
adjustment of the derailers.



On Feb 17, 9:45 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote:



  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike 
  matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

  Wow, that's great.    I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
  gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
  easier to swap among bikes.

  If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
  every time the spacing is changed.

  It

 Sorry, I hit send too soon.

 It's not as easy as putting on new endcaps, popping on the the bike
 and going for a ride.

 Jay Hartman

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[RBW] Re: FS: bits and pieces

2011-02-17 Thread bassandbike
I'm interested in the Ostrich handlebar bag!  Message sent off list.

Patrick
Louisville

On Feb 17, 12:11 am, Rod C rodc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Trying to get some other gear so I'm selling some items
 that I'm not using.

 All items except the bottom bracket have seen some use.
 I take care of my things so they're well cared for.
 The most used item are the Dinotte Lights.  Mostly the headlight.
 Rarely used the taillight.

 Please message me directly if interested in any of the following:
 I'll send you photos upon request.

 VELO ORANGE RACK (latest model) with DECALEUR $60 SHIPPED CONUS

 VELO ORANGE THREADLESS STEM 26.0/ 70MM/ 17D RISE/ $20 SHIPPED CONUS

 OSTRICH HANDLEBAR BAG $90 SHIPPED CONUS

 SHIMANO 105 SILVER FRONT BRAKE  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 LEZYNE MTB PUMP $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 TOPEAK LARGE MASTER BLASTER PUMP  $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 DINOTTE LIGHT SET/ 200 LI FRONT LAMP/ 140 REAR LAMP/ 2 LI-ION
 BATTERIES/ CHARGER/CABLES/ O-RINGS/ CLAMPS  $150 SHIPPED CONUS

 TANGE 110 BB SQUARE TAPER $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI SUNGLASSES BLACK POLARIZED  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI GLASSES BLACK W/CLEAR LENSES $30 SHIPPED CONUS

 Thanks

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[RBW] Re: A couple of mech questions: chainsuck and a noisy BB

2011-02-17 Thread doug peterson
 Doug: I'm getting it mostly on the granny ring, sometimes on the
 middle, with the rear derailer on the smaller cogs. Almost exclusively
 on dirty, so probably fairly bumpy.

Granny on the smaller cogs means not much tension on the chain.  Shift
to the granny  big cog, and note where the RD cage is and feel the
chain tension.  Then shift out to a small cog  you'll see the cage
swing way back to take up the slack.  Feel the chain tension.  It will
be a lot less.  Then try the same observation in the middle  big
rings.  On the big you may want to forgo using the largest 2 cogs as
the chain tension gets high and the angle kinda extreme.

IME the combinations of the granny  the 3 or 4 largest cogs is fairly
reliable.  By the time you're out to the middle of cluster, it's time
to shift to the middle.  In the middle ring you should be able to use
all the cogs reliably.  What I've found (the hard way, of course) is
I'd climb a steep hill on the granny  big cog, go over the top, shift
up a few cogs for the downhill, bounce around a bit  the chain would
either fall off to the inside or get sucked up against the stay.  A
more experienced rider suggested shifting to the middle ring once over
the top so as to put some tension on the chain for the bouncy
downhill.

dougP


On Feb 17, 6:25 am, Paul Yeoh rawfoodcuis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks again to everyone for your replies.

 Doug: I'm getting it mostly on the granny ring, sometimes on the
 middle, with the rear derailer on the smaller cogs. Almost exclusively
 on dirty, so probably fairly bumpy.

 Cyclofiend: Hmm... its hard to say. I will have to get some opinions
 from Gernot and Kip when I see them.

 Michael: The XD2 is totally stock.

 Thomas: Yes, I emailed Keven about the different spindle sizes and he
 replied to say the site was out of date with regards to that little
 fact. Thanks for sharing your configuration info.

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread bfd


On Feb 15, 6:36 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  Interesting. Is that an oversized axle? If not, does anyone know how
  he addresses the broken axle issue with freewheel hubs.
  Good Luck!

 Yeah thanks.  Cause everyone knows in the 40 years or so that
 freewheel hubs were the default cyclists couldn't go half a mile with
 a broken axle.  Sheesh!

No problem. I presume you're a lightweight as I broken 3 rear axles,
including 2 Campy and 1 wheel mfg, in about a 2 year period when I
decided to switch to cassette rear hub. That was back in 1997 and I
haven't broken an axle yet. May be it was the C-Record rear hub
design, bad luck with axles or may be my fat butt. Whatever the
reason, in the last 12+ years, I've used DA and Campy rear hubs and
NEVER had a problem. Good Luck!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
Chainline is not really the problem.
It's keeping the rim centered between the dropouts and in plane with front wheel

Jay hartman

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:17 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, if you are especially assiduous about your chainline.for me
 it would be relatively easy to go from say 121 to 126 with an
 adjustment of the derailers.
 
 
 
 On Feb 17, 9:45 am, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman 
 rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike 
 matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Wow, that's great.I love the adjustable spacing too-  to me that
 gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much
 easier to swap among bikes.
 
 If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish
 every time the spacing is changed.
 
 It
 
 Sorry, I hit send too soon.
 
 It's not as easy as putting on new endcaps, popping on the the bike
 and going for a ride.
 
 Jay Hartman
 
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[RBW] Re: A couple of mech questions: chainsuck and a noisy BB

2011-02-17 Thread reynoldslugs
I have had problems with chain suck on many bikes.  IME easily fixed
with Deda fang:

http://www.amazon.com/Deda-Fang-Bicycle-Chain-Keeper/dp/B001SIEXQK

currently in use on several Rivendells, a Richard Sachs, and others
housed in my garage.

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[RBW] Re: FS: bits and pieces

2011-02-17 Thread Beardpapa
I emailed you this morning about the Ostrich bag?  Just want to make
sure you got it!  Thanks!

On Feb 16, 11:11 pm, Rod C rodc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Trying to get some other gear so I'm selling some items
 that I'm not using.

 All items except the bottom bracket have seen some use.
 I take care of my things so they're well cared for.
 The most used item are the Dinotte Lights.  Mostly the headlight.
 Rarely used the taillight.

 Please message me directly if interested in any of the following:
 I'll send you photos upon request.

 VELO ORANGE RACK (latest model) with DECALEUR $60 SHIPPED CONUS

 VELO ORANGE THREADLESS STEM 26.0/ 70MM/ 17D RISE/ $20 SHIPPED CONUS

 OSTRICH HANDLEBAR BAG $90 SHIPPED CONUS

 SHIMANO 105 SILVER FRONT BRAKE  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 LEZYNE MTB PUMP $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 TOPEAK LARGE MASTER BLASTER PUMP  $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 DINOTTE LIGHT SET/ 200 LI FRONT LAMP/ 140 REAR LAMP/ 2 LI-ION
 BATTERIES/ CHARGER/CABLES/ O-RINGS/ CLAMPS  $150 SHIPPED CONUS

 TANGE 110 BB SQUARE TAPER $25 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI SUNGLASSES BLACK POLARIZED  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

 GIRO SEMI GLASSES BLACK W/CLEAR LENSES $30 SHIPPED CONUS

 Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread JoelMatthews
 No problem. I presume you're a lightweight as I broken 3 rear axles,
 including 2 Campy and 1 wheel mfg, in about a 2 year period when I
 decided to switch to cassette rear hub. That was back in 1997 and I
 haven't broken an axle yet. May be it was the C-Record rear hub
 design, bad luck with axles or may be my fat butt. Whatever the
 reason, in the last 12+ years, I've used DA and Campy rear hubs and
 NEVER had a problem.

While adult male weights have gone up over the past 40 years, they
have not gone up to the point where one can say that freewheel axles
are always at risk.

That said, C-Record FW were notorius for their weak axles.  Paul is
not Campagnolo.

All things being equal, cassettes should be the first choice for a new
frame.  The Jono is by design for people either restoring an old frame
of making a new wheel for an old frame they do not want to alter to
fit wider cassette hubs.  Time will tell, but given my experience with
other Paul products, I expect the Jono will fill this role admirably.

On Feb 17, 10:46 am, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 15, 6:36 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:  
 Interesting. Is that an oversized axle? If not, does anyone know how
   he addresses the broken axle issue with freewheel hubs.
   Good Luck!

  Yeah thanks.  Cause everyone knows in the 40 years or so that
  freewheel hubs were the default cyclists couldn't go half a mile with
  a broken axle.  Sheesh!

 No problem. I presume you're a lightweight as I broken 3 rear axles,
 including 2 Campy and 1 wheel mfg, in about a 2 year period when I
 decided to switch to cassette rear hub. That was back in 1997 and I
 haven't broken an axle yet. May be it was the C-Record rear hub
 design, bad luck with axles or may be my fat butt. Whatever the
 reason, in the last 12+ years, I've used DA and Campy rear hubs and
 NEVER had a problem. Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: FS: bits and pieces

2011-02-17 Thread Rod C
Hi

Ostrich bag and VO Rando rack both sold quickly.

Thanks for the inquiries.

On Feb 17, 9:25 am, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:
 I emailed you this morning about the Ostrich bag?  Just want to make
 sure you got it!  Thanks!

 On Feb 16, 11:11 pm, Rod C rodc...@gmail.com wrote:







  Trying to get some other gear so I'm selling some items
  that I'm not using.

  All items except the bottom bracket have seen some use.
  I take care of my things so they're well cared for.
  The most used item are the Dinotte Lights.  Mostly the headlight.
  Rarely used the taillight.

  Please message me directly if interested in any of the following:
  I'll send you photos upon request.

  VELO ORANGE RACK (latest model) with DECALEUR $60 SHIPPED CONUS

  VELO ORANGE THREADLESS STEM 26.0/ 70MM/ 17D RISE/ $20 SHIPPED CONUS

  OSTRICH HANDLEBAR BAG $90 SHIPPED CONUS

  SHIMANO 105 SILVER FRONT BRAKE  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

  LEZYNE MTB PUMP $25 SHIPPED CONUS

  TOPEAK LARGE MASTER BLASTER PUMP  $25 SHIPPED CONUS

  DINOTTE LIGHT SET/ 200 LI FRONT LAMP/ 140 REAR LAMP/ 2 LI-ION
  BATTERIES/ CHARGER/CABLES/ O-RINGS/ CLAMPS  $150 SHIPPED CONUS

  TANGE 110 BB SQUARE TAPER $25 SHIPPED CONUS

  GIRO SEMI SUNGLASSES BLACK POLARIZED  $40 SHIPPED CONUS

  GIRO SEMI GLASSES BLACK W/CLEAR LENSES $30 SHIPPED CONUS

  Thanks

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[RBW] Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread jsk
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer making modern, well
built stem mounted shifters anymore (or ever)? You know, like the type
that used come standard on Schwinn Collegiate bikes and the like?

I mean, considering the devotion to upright bars here ...

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[RBW] FS: jersey, 38 mm tires, pedals, cheap seatpost, threadless stem

2011-02-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#

Make offers.

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Re: [RBW] FS: TA, Brooks, Salsa and other stuff...

2011-02-17 Thread Ken Freeman
Hi, I'm interested in the Alize.  What BB did you use with it?

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:45 AM, EdM e.mantar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone!
 SPRING CLEANING!!  Shipping within CONUS included. Any questions,
 please email @ eman1...@optonline.net. Thank you fro looking and
 PEACE. Pictures here http://www.flickr.com/photos/58189907@N03/sets/

 Alize Triple Crankset.  Purchased from Peter White a few years ago;
 have seen a few brevets but still have plenty of life left. If you can
 overlook the superficial scratches, they will serve you well. 172.5,
 50/40/30 rings.  Very clean.  $125

 Brooks SWIFT saddle.  Stiff, relatively new, need some loving.  This
 saddle has approximately 300 miles and needs a few more rides to
 attain that ‘sweet spot.’  Ti rails, 9/10 condition.  $175

 Brooks Professional Saddle.  A different kind of stiffness, probably
 due to its age ~ mid80’s version.  Needs some break-in but already has
 the cool copper patina on its rivets.  Chrome rails. $75

 Suntour Superbe Non Aero Levers. Cool, and cooler.  Hoods are still in
 great shape, Drilled. Great for your moustache h/b projects. $35

 Salsa Stem.  Pre-recall. 100mm w/ 17 rise.  Lightly used, no major
 scratches. Upgraded to Nitto Technomic. $35

 Fenders and such.  I wanted to list these individually but given the
 cost of shipping, it’s more cost effective to bundle them all
 together. Keep 'em or resell. $75 gets you:

 •   1 set 700x35c, Black SKS fenders.  Complete hardware. Used once,
 stored in garage ever since.
 •   1 set 26”, Silver ESGE fenders. Installed on my XO-1
 intermittently,
 the XO was sleeker without ‘em.  Complete hardware,
 •   Set of 130 BCD chainrings. 52/Mavic, 39/Shimano.  All you need are
 the crankarms
 •   Generic suspension seatpost. 27.2.  Takes the edge off.  Once you
 try a susp. s/p, you’ll never look back!
 •   Blackburn hand pump.  Was in the bin. Excellent condition.





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[RBW] FT: Grand Bois Cypres (650b)

2011-02-17 Thread Erik C
Hey Folks,

I was riding my Bleriot down the gravel road to work today and thought
about how it might be nice to try a larger size tire. Throwing this
out there to see if anyone is interested in trading a pair of Hetres
for my Cypres. The tires have low mileage on them...maybe 200 miles?

Erik

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[RBW] Re: Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread William
The coolest things I've seen is custom steel stems with downtube
bosses brazed onto the stem.  Ahearne in particular features them
often.

On Feb 17, 11:21 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was trying to find something like this a while back, with no luck. I
 even asked Chris at VO if they would consider producing some kind of
 stem mount for the silver shifters. He said they had considered it,
 but it was way down the list of things they are planning to do.

 Best bet would be to find an old stem shift clamp that uses the same
 bosses as the current production silvers.

 I've even thought about trying to retrofit downtubes to my Sam,
 without brazing bosses on. Nothing exists for a 31.8mm downtube,
 though, and I don't have the skills/tools to fabricate anything that
 would look decent.

 -Pete

 On Feb 17, 11:28 am, jsk jeff...@lightsideps.com wrote:







  Hi all,

  Just wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer making modern, well
  built stem mounted shifters anymore (or ever)? You know, like the type
  that used come standard on Schwinn Collegiate bikes and the like?

  I mean, considering the devotion to upright bars here ...

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread bfd


On Feb 17, 9:28 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  No problem. I presume you're a lightweight as I broken 3 rear axles,
  including 2 Campy and 1 wheel mfg, in about a 2 year period when I
  decided to switch to cassette rear hub. That was back in 1997 and I
  haven't broken an axle yet. May be it was the C-Record rear hub
  design, bad luck with axles or may be my fat butt. Whatever the
  reason, in the last 12+ years, I've used DA and Campy rear hubs and
  NEVER had a problem.

 While adult male weights have gone up over the past 40 years, they
 have not gone up to the point where one can say that freewheel axles
 are always at risk.

Don't you ride maxi-car fw hubs? If so, those never break either!

 That said, C-Record FW were notorius for their weak axles.  Paul is
 not Campagnolo.

That's interesting. Now when I think back, I never had a NR rear axle
break, only the C-Record. I wonder what was the difference.

 All things being equal, cassettes should be the first choice for a new
 frame.  The Jono is by design for people either restoring an old frame
 of making a new wheel for an old frame they do not want to alter to
 fit wider cassette hubs.  Time will tell, but given my experience with
 other Paul products, I expect the Jono will fill this role admirably.

Agree, Paul makes great stuff. Hopefully, the Jono is a sturdy hub ala
Phil Wood fw hub. Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread bfd


On Feb 17, 2:35 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  Don't you ride maxi-car fw hubs? If so, those never break either!

 Yes.  So admittedly I am not the best person to talk about run of the
 mill FW hubs as MaxiCar are head and shoulders above the rest when it
 comes to longevity.  Still, I accept that in the day there were plenty
 of hollow axle hubs that got the job done.

  That's interesting. Now when I think back, I never had a NR rear axle
  break, only the C-Record. I wonder what was the difference.

 I've read conflicting theories in the past but never anything real
 well written.  Maybe Eric Norris can chime in.

I posted a question about the difference between NR and C-Record fw
rear hub on another forum and here is one excellent and plausible
explanation:

Functionally I think the two hubs are equivalent, however the main
difference is the width of the dropouts, the over locknut
dimension.

Since the C-records were used on bikes that had 7 and sometimes 8
speeds, they frequently had over locknut dimensions of 130mm. At
130mm, the bearing on the hub drive side is pretty close to the wheel
centerline! So there's a bending moment on the axle and a stress riser
at the inner edge of the drive side cone.

NR axles were usually set up for 120 or 126mm over locknut.

And of course, a heavy rider with a powerful sprint will put far more
load on the rear axle than a small rider.

The quest for more rear cog speeds is part of what led to the cassette
hub which has an extra bearing at the end of the axle, near the drive
side dropout.

Hmmm, so may be it was a combo of running a 7spd fw and my fat
assGood Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread EricP
Back in the 1980's (before the big layoff from cycling) used to
regularly bend and/or break rear freewheel hub axles.  Usually low
level Shimano or Suntour.  Including Suntour XC.  Back then my weight
was about 190.  My low tech solution - replace the cones and axles
with nutted solid axles.  Cro-mo.  The mild steel ones would bend
also.

This was on early mountain bikes and the 130mm hub spacing seemed to
be the culprit.

Have not had a problem with a cassette hub.  Have also not had a
problem with my Phil FW hub on my Sam Hillborne.  Even when first
getting back on the bike, didn't have a problem with cassette hubs
although my weight at that time was around 350 pounds.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Feb 17, 4:18 pm, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 17, 9:28 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:  No problem. 
 I presume you're a lightweight as I broken 3 rear axles,
   including 2 Campy and 1 wheel mfg, in about a 2 year period when I
   decided to switch to cassette rear hub. That was back in 1997 and I
   haven't broken an axle yet. May be it was the C-Record rear hub
   design, bad luck with axles or may be my fat butt. Whatever the
   reason, in the last 12+ years, I've used DA and Campy rear hubs and
   NEVER had a problem.

  While adult male weights have gone up over the past 40 years, they
  have not gone up to the point where one can say that freewheel axles
  are always at risk.

 Don't you ride maxi-car fw hubs? If so, those never break either!

  That said, C-Record FW were notorius for their weak axles.  Paul is
  not Campagnolo.

 That's interesting. Now when I think back, I never had a NR rear axle
 break, only the C-Record. I wonder what was the difference.

  All things being equal, cassettes should be the first choice for a new
  frame.  The Jono is by design for people either restoring an old frame
  of making a new wheel for an old frame they do not want to alter to
  fit wider cassette hubs.  Time will tell, but given my experience with
  other Paul products, I expect the Jono will fill this role admirably.

 Agree, Paul makes great stuff. Hopefully, the Jono is a sturdy hub ala
 Phil Wood fw hub. Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread MichaelH
It's all about accepting the isness of the present moment.

michael
now if only i could make it be Spring.



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 of zen like harmony

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[RBW] Re: Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread doug peterson
Angus:

I dunno; maybe try to re-visit this state of bliss in a week or so 
report back.  Sounds un-natural.

My Atlantis will shortly have it's 8th birthday  I'm still
tinkering.  Going to try Silver bar ends (been using Suntour Bar Cons
forever)  chubby Tektro brake levers.  Still moving toward ever wider
tires, 40s are next up.  There will always be something.  Racks'n'bags
alone can occupy me for countless hours.

dougP

On Feb 17, 5:05 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer.

 I can't leave well enough alone.

 I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't
 always work out that way).

 Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving.

 Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it.  I'm
 kinda happy with it actually.

 Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the
 Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/

 Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting,
 handling...everything.  I realized I haven't had to fiddle with
 anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed
 happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well,
 didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made
 funny noises

 WHOA!  This hasn't happened before.

 Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN!

 Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level
 of zen like harmony

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[RBW] Re: Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread George Schick
It's a good thing, because one of the many Murphy's Laws states that
if you tinker with anything long enough it will break.  And I've
found it to be true through personal experience numerous times.


On Feb 17, 7:05 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer.

 I can't leave well enough alone.

 I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't
 always work out that way).

 Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving.

 Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it.  I'm
 kinda happy with it actually.

 Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the
 Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/

 Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting,
 handling...everything.  I realized I haven't had to fiddle with
 anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed
 happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well,
 didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made
 funny noises

 WHOA!  This hasn't happened before.

 Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN!

 Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level
 of zen like harmony

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[RBW] Re: Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread doug peterson
If Jenny from Point Loma sees this maybe she'll chime in.  She has
them on her Homer  they look good.  I haven't gotten a close look but
they look better than the ones common back in the 70s/80s.  It's a
clean look that elminates all the clutter of the bar ends I've been
using forever.  Definitely worth consideration.

dougP

On Feb 17, 12:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 The coolest things I've seen is custom steel stems with downtube
 bosses brazed onto the stem.  Ahearne in particular features them
 often.

 On Feb 17, 11:21 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:



  I was trying to find something like this a while back, with no luck. I
  even asked Chris at VO if they would consider producing some kind of
  stem mount for the silver shifters. He said they had considered it,
  but it was way down the list of things they are planning to do.

  Best bet would be to find an old stem shift clamp that uses the same
  bosses as the current production silvers.

  I've even thought about trying to retrofit downtubes to my Sam,
  without brazing bosses on. Nothing exists for a 31.8mm downtube,
  though, and I don't have the skills/tools to fabricate anything that
  would look decent.

  -Pete

  On Feb 17, 11:28 am, jsk jeff...@lightsideps.com wrote:

   Hi all,

   Just wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer making modern, well
   built stem mounted shifters anymore (or ever)? You know, like the type
   that used come standard on Schwinn Collegiate bikes and the like?

   I mean, considering the devotion to upright bars here ...- Hide quoted 
   text -

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[RBW] WTT: Technomic Deluxe 9cm and Brooks B 17

2011-02-17 Thread ejg
Hey all

I have a 9 cm (3 1/2 from bolt center to clamp center ) Nitto
Technomic Deluxe that I would like to trade for a Deluxe 11cm or
another comparable stem. I don't need tons of quill.

Brooks black B17, I'd like to trade this or partial trade for a Brooks
Pro or Swift


Both are in nice shape and I can load pictures if wanted

Thanks in advance
EJG

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RE: [RBW] Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread jim phillips

All right!!
Congratulations!

best,

Jim

 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:05:29 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN!
 From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer.
 
 I can't leave well enough alone.
 
 I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't
 always work out that way).
 
 Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving.
 
 Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it.  I'm
 kinda happy with it actually.
 
 
 Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the
 Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/
 
 Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting,
 handling...everything.  I realized I haven't had to fiddle with
 anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed
 happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well,
 didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made
 funny noises
 
 WHOA!  This hasn't happened before.
 
 Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN!
 
 Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level
 of zen like harmony
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread Rene Sterental
For how long will you be able to refrain from touching something on this
bike? :-)

Zen on!!!

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:01 PM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote:

All right!!
Congratulations!

best,

Jim

 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:05:29 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN!
 From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

 My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer.

 I can't leave well enough alone.

 I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't
 always work out that way).

 Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving.

 Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it. I'm
 kinda happy with it actually.


 Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the
 Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/

 Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting,
 handling...everything. I realized I haven't had to fiddle with
 anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed
 happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well,
 didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made
 funny noises

 WHOA! This hasn't happened before.

 Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN!

 Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level
 of zen like harmony



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RE: [RBW] Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!

2011-02-17 Thread jim phillips

Oh, one other thing I meant to say. I have a set of axioms I have come upon 
regarding this topic.

Axion #1

If you don't know how to put something back together, don't take it apart.

best,

JimP

From: orthie...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:16:49 -0600
Subject: Re: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN!
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

For how long will you be able to refrain from touching something on this bike? 
:-)
Zen on!!!
René 

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:01 PM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote:


All right!!
Congratulations!

best,

Jim

 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:05:29 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN!
 From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net

 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer.

 
 I can't leave well enough alone.
 
 I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't
 always work out that way).
 
 Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving.

 
 Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it.  I'm
 kinda happy with it actually.
 
 
 Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the

 Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/

 
 Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting,
 handling...everything.  I realized I haven't had to fiddle with
 anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed

 happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well,
 didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made
 funny noises
 
 WHOA!  This hasn't happened before.

 
 Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN!
 
 Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level
 of zen like harmony
 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread JL

Why start at 121 spacing and not 120?

If 130 and 135 are options then it isn't a question of that extra mm
used to get to 126mm from 125.

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[RBW] WAS: Paul Jono Hub NOW: Amazing Axle Anecdotes

2011-02-17 Thread Jon Grant
Eric Platt wrote:

Back in the 1980's (before the big layoff from cycling) used to
regularly bend and/or break rear freewheel hub axles.  Usually low
level Shimano or Suntour.  Including Suntour XC.  Back then my weight
was about 190.  My low tech solution - replace the cones and axles
with nutted solid axles.  Cro-mo.  The mild steel ones would bend
also.

This was on early mountain bikes and the 130mm hub spacing seemed to
be the culprit.

Have not had a problem with a cassette hub.  Have also not had a
problem with my Phil FW hub on my Sam Hillborne.  Even when first
getting back on the bike, didn't have a problem with cassette hubs
although my weight at that time was around 350 pounds.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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I've been riding, off and on, for almost 40 years -- I'd guess at least
50,000 miles, probably 95% on pavement. I've weighed between 180 and 260
pounds most of that time. Lightest bike+rider was probably 170 lbs. Heaviest
single (boxbike, trailer, rider, two toddlers, Costco shopping load) runs
500 lbs. I've used fixed gears, single speeds, 3- and 8-speed
internal-geared hubs, and 5-, 6-, and 7-speed freewheels. I've owned hubs of
several levels by Shimano, Sanshin, Normandy, SunTour, Sovos, Specialized,
Campagnolo, Mavic, Phil Wood, Atom, Schmidt -- and probably others I've
forgotten.

I've never broken an axle. Or a crank arm. Or any other component bigger
than a spoke, except in a collision.

Jon Grant, drawing no conclusions in
Austin, Texas


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[RBW] Re: Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread davidg


These look pretty good, classic like on the old schwinns. Says 5/6
speed but it's friction and looks like plenty long throw.

http://www.amazon.com/Sunrace-Mount-Shift-Lever-Friction/dp/B000A6B3IM

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread benzzoy
I don't know if it's solely about the over locknut dimension.
Except for most Shimano cassette hubs, all other cassette hubs also
have the right side bearings (that supports the hub body) very close
to the centerline of the axle.

Shimano has a patent on attaching the hub body to the freehub and
putting the right side bearing on the right side of the freehub
itself, thus transferring the load as far outboard as possible.  The
other manufacturers (Campagnolo, Mavic, to name but two) have
essentially the freewheel hub design, except in place of an
unsupported freewheel, there is a freehub body usually supported by
two bearings.  These two bearings only support pedaling forces and you
can even remove the entire freehub body without impacting the ability
of the wheel to carry load.

So what this means is that all except pedaling loads are still
supported by a left bearing that sits very close to the left dropout,
and a right bearing that sits very close to the centerline of the
axle.  There are advantages to the new design though.  For example,
the axles tend to be larger and they are usually only threaded at the
very ends.  Big, most unthreaded axles surely must be stronger than
smaller axles with a long section of stress-riser threads.



On Feb 17, 3:24 pm, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I posted a question about the difference between NR and C-Record fw
 rear hub on another forum and here is one excellent and plausible
 explanation:

 Functionally I think the two hubs are equivalent, however the main
 difference is the width of the dropouts, the over locknut
 dimension.

 Since the C-records were used on bikes that had 7 and sometimes 8
 speeds, they frequently had over locknut dimensions of 130mm. At
 130mm, the bearing on the hub drive side is pretty close to the wheel
 centerline! So there's a bending moment on the axle and a stress riser
 at the inner edge of the drive side cone.

 NR axles were usually set up for 120 or 126mm over locknut.

 And of course, a heavy rider with a powerful sprint will put far more
 load on the rear axle than a small rider.

 The quest for more rear cog speeds is part of what led to the cassette
 hub which has an extra bearing at the end of the axle, near the drive
 side dropout.

 Hmmm, so may be it was a combo of running a 7spd fw and my fat
 assGood Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread velomann
Oh my gosh - do you happen to have access to a used bike shop or
cycling co-op kind of place? There must be a half dozen places here in
Portland that have, like, boxes - literally - of Shimano and Suntour
stem-mount shifters. I doubt you're likely to find anything better
than those old classics. If you can find an old set of the Shimano 600
Arabesque stem mount shifters, you'll think you died and went to
stem shifter heaven!

On Feb 17, 8:28 am, jsk jeff...@lightsideps.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Just wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer making modern, well
 built stem mounted shifters anymore (or ever)? You know, like the type
 that used come standard on Schwinn Collegiate bikes and the like?

 I mean, considering the devotion to upright bars here ...

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread bfd


On Feb 17, 8:28 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I don't know if it's solely about the over locknut dimension.
 Except for most Shimano cassette hubs, all other cassette hubs also
 have the right side bearings (that supports the hub body) very close
 to the centerline of the axle.

You appear to have missed it, but we're talking about FREEWHEEL rear
hub, not cassette hubs!

 Shimano has a patent on attaching the hub body to the freehub and
 putting the right side bearing on the right side of the freehub
 itself, thus transferring the load as far outboard as possible.  The
 other manufacturers (Campagnolo, Mavic, to name but two) have
 essentially the freewheel hub design, except in place of an
 unsupported freewheel, there is a freehub body usually supported by
 two bearings.  These two bearings only support pedaling forces and you
 can even remove the entire freehub body without impacting the ability
 of the wheel to carry load.

I agree that Shimano outboard bearing design is superior. However,
Campy cassette hub, from 1999 to present, uses an oversized axle and
guess what, despite the inboard placement of its bearings, the axles
don't break!  Surprised? Nope, like Phil Wood FW rear hub, the
oversized axles keeps things from breaking. That's why I initially
asked if the new Paul rear hub had an oversized axle.

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[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread bfd


On Feb 17, 4:39 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

 Have not had a problem with a cassette hub.  Have also not had a
 problem with my Phil FW hub on my Sam Hillborne.  

I think the reason why you haven't had a problem with your Phil Wood
fw hub is because of the oversized axle used by Phil. Like Campy
cassette hubs made from 1999 to present, there have been almost no
reports of axle breaking despite the inferior inboard bearing design.
Again, the oversized axles keeps things from breaking. Good Luck!



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[RBW] Re: Stem Mounted Shifters?

2011-02-17 Thread David Miller
Have you tried Pauls thumbies?  www.paulcomp.com/thumbies.html
David Miller
Seattle


On Feb 17, 8:28 am, jsk jeff...@lightsideps.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Just wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer making modern, well
 built stem mounted shifters anymore (or ever)? You know, like the type
 that used come standard on Schwinn Collegiate bikes and the like?

 I mean, considering the devotion to upright bars here ...

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[RBW] Dyno headlight mounting for Hillborne?

2011-02-17 Thread Bob
I plan to mount a dyno headlight to my fendered V-brake Sam, probably
an Edelux or IQ Cyo.  I will drive it with a Son 28.  A front Nitto
mini-rack and frequently mounted small Sackville bag constrains the
desirable fork crown mounting position.  The best but less elegant
mounting options seem to the the Albatros bars near the stem, front or
side of the mini-rack, or the forks.  Suggestions about mounting site
and hardware are invited, including what is not recommended..  I have
visited Peter White's formidable site, but there is no substitute for
specific solutions for a specific problem.

Bob

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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hansen
I agree with Ryan,

Best to show up a good deal early to get in line for the ferry.

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Re: [RBW] Dyno headlight mounting for Hillborne?

2011-02-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I mounted a light to a little curved bracket sold by VO (I think) that
bolts to the fork let rack mount braze on. It holds the light down and
for'ard. It wouldn't be hard to home-make such a bracket, either. And
there are, I think, other brackets that bolt to a rack -- I've not
used one. Finally, not to my liking, though, there are short
cylindrical mounts that bolt to a dropout eyelet and Minoura makes one
that clamps where you like along the fork leg.

See 'em all here:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/lighting/dynamo.html

And the cheap dynohub is marked down to $35.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Bob prov...@umbc.edu wrote:
 I plan to mount a dyno headlight to my fendered V-brake Sam, probably
 an Edelux or IQ Cyo.  I will drive it with a Son 28.  A front Nitto
 mini-rack and frequently mounted small Sackville bag constrains the
 desirable fork crown mounting position.  The best but less elegant
 mounting options seem to the the Albatros bars near the stem, front or
 side of the mini-rack, or the forks.  Suggestions about mounting site
 and hardware are invited, including what is not recommended..  I have
 visited Peter White's formidable site, but there is no substitute for
 specific solutions for a specific problem.

 Bob

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Re: [RBW] Dyno headlight mounting for Hillborne?

2011-02-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ought to say that VO designed the first mentioned bracket for rack
mounting, but I mounted it to the mid-forkleg braze on on my Sam Hill.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mounted a light to a little curved bracket sold by VO (I think) that
 bolts to the fork let rack mount braze on. It holds the light down and
 for'ard. It wouldn't be hard to home-make such a bracket, either. And
 there are, I think, other brackets that bolt to a rack -- I've not
 used one. Finally, not to my liking, though, there are short
 cylindrical mounts that bolt to a dropout eyelet and Minoura makes one
 that clamps where you like along the fork leg.

 See 'em all here:
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/lighting/dynamo.html

 And the cheap dynohub is marked down to $35.

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Bob prov...@umbc.edu wrote:
 I plan to mount a dyno headlight to my fendered V-brake Sam, probably
 an Edelux or IQ Cyo.  I will drive it with a Son 28.  A front Nitto
 mini-rack and frequently mounted small Sackville bag constrains the
 desirable fork crown mounting position.  The best but less elegant
 mounting options seem to the the Albatros bars near the stem, front or
 side of the mini-rack, or the forks.  Suggestions about mounting site
 and hardware are invited, including what is not recommended..  I have
 visited Peter White's formidable site, but there is no substitute for
 specific solutions for a specific problem.

 Bob

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[RBW] Re: Dyno headlight mounting for Hillborne?

2011-02-17 Thread rcnute
I would try the Gino light mount for the mid-fork braze-on (or rack
mount) or one of the skewer-mounted versions that Patrick noted.

Ryan

On Feb 17, 12:01 pm, Bob prov...@umbc.edu wrote:
 I plan to mount a dyno headlight to my fendered V-brake Sam, probably
 an Edelux or IQ Cyo.  I will drive it with a Son 28.  A front Nitto
 mini-rack and frequently mounted small Sackville bag constrains the
 desirable fork crown mounting position.  The best but less elegant
 mounting options seem to the the Albatros bars near the stem, front or
 side of the mini-rack, or the forks.  Suggestions about mounting site
 and hardware are invited, including what is not recommended..  I have
 visited Peter White's formidable site, but there is no substitute for
 specific solutions for a specific problem.

 Bob

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[RBW] Re: Dyno headlight mounting for Hillborne?

2011-02-17 Thread Benedikt
Did you say you currently have a front Nitto mini-rack?  How large is
the Sackville bag?  Does the bag extend out beyond the rack?  If not
just mount it to the front of the rack like this -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5219194791/in/set-72157607896493013/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5219195115/in/set-72157607896493013/

On Feb 17, 12:01 pm, Bob prov...@umbc.edu wrote:
 I plan to mount a dyno headlight to my fendered V-brake Sam, probably
 an Edelux or IQ Cyo.  I will drive it with a Son 28.  A front Nitto
 mini-rack and frequently mounted small Sackville bag constrains the
 desirable fork crown mounting position.  The best but less elegant
 mounting options seem to the the Albatros bars near the stem, front or
 side of the mini-rack, or the forks.  Suggestions about mounting site
 and hardware are invited, including what is not recommended..  I have
 visited Peter White's formidable site, but there is no substitute for
 specific solutions for a specific problem.

 Bob

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