[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Just came back from a visit to New England which included 5 days biking in Vermont on my new to me Sam. Beautiful part of the world this time of year. The hills were a bit much for this flatlander, especially self supported, but managed to have a really good time anyway. Jay On Aug 26, 11:44 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sam. I rode from Burlington to Jerusalem and camped in the Camel's Hump State Forest. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3RjVQ7WAEVo/TlgFrCEVRNI/BA... This is what I brought: Slickersack Trangia cookset Book to read Wiggy's sleeping bag (on top) Headlamp Coffee setup Marinated stir-fry, Eggs, bit of salami, macadamia nuts, larabar, rasberries blueberries, dark chocolate Saddlesack Hennessy Hammock Tools Pump Fleece Jacket Ibex longies Spare shirt Spare socks Opinel knife Hozan Y wrench (as this was the first time out with this Sam and these racks, thought I may need to make adjustments, and that thing rocks for making adjustments to the nitto racks) Keven's Bag Phone Wallet Camera Pencil Crossword Puzzle Some things I learned: - The Sam is just fine handling this amount of load. No sway, felt solid underneath me the whole time. (for the record, I weigh about 220 lbs, so this is a lot of total weight. i think the marathon duremes may help with the stable feel of the ride, but it's hard to say). - Riding on the curves of the Albatross bar is 4/5 as good as riding in drops for me. It got me down out of the wind, and handling was just fine. - The Sam is so much fun on descents, it's one of the most fun things I have ever done. - Leave earlier or ride shorter. I pushed it and ended up making camp in the dark, it sucked. - Side roads in Vermont can be brutal. I am fine on long ascents, but the crazy uphill stuff on Vermont dirt roads really takes it out of me. I ended up walking the bike a fair bit on these, and ended up being way more tired than I would normally be after riding this long. - I don't need so much food. I ate like half of what I brought. - The trangia cookset is awesome. My first time using it, and it was solid. Way way better than just using the little triangle windscreen thing and then cooking in something else. - I am not much for taking pictures when I am riding. I brought the camera, but didn't pull it out. I was also really feeling the pressure of trying to make good time and beat the sunset, so that was part of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?
I use a rolled up knit carpet for yoga. Feels (and smells) a lot nicer than then the synthetic ones and fits great in my Carradice saddle bag. Have to try straping it directly to the bagman support as suggested above. Jay On Aug 27, 11:57 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've tried a couple of sort of adhoc ways of carrying my yoga mat on my Riv but they have been awkward. Does anyone have an easy and safe method for carrying theirs? I'd rather ride to class but end up driving because of that awkward pound or so of rubber mat. Cheers, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bell Question
Folk, Just curious looking over the many bells available What's generally a better bell? Brass or Copper? Loud and pretty would be nice Also, I like the big Rivendell hammerstrike bells but I'd like something a little more low-profile for my road bike and if possible, I'd like to mount it somewhere other than on the flats of the drop-bar. On the threadless steer-tube spacers, perhaps? Incredibell has an interesting one that replaces one of your handlebar tape plugs. Thoughts? Thanks... Andrew+ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?
If you have a rear rack, for other things - stuck into a pannier / or strapped to the vertical leg of the rear rack in a mat bag. Or FOLDED (depending upon the mat) into a square and put into a rear or front bag, or if you have a front rack, likewise: fold and strap to it (works w an m12 rack). I've carried multiple mats / thin mats/ heavy manduka mats like this; works fine. Have fun. There's quite a few yoga practitioners / cyclists in all sorts o places. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CRviaewWn78J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] shorty striped socks or similar
Shortly after RBW stopped selling the striped sporty shorty, I called them and asked that very question. They did not know where I might find them in the 80/20 wool/nylon blend RBW had been selling just before they stopped carrying them. IIRC the socks were made by Northland Woolens. Their web-site indicates they still make and sell a similar sock in 80/15/5 wool/angora/nylon blend. My experience with RBW socks is that, while a good pure or near-pure wool sock like that (and for this purpose I consider angora to bs rabbit wool) does not last long enough worn cycling to be worth buying, though I found them *extremely* comfy. I do wish Northland Woolens made a 20% nylon sock. My final few pairs of those I got from RBW are giving out at the heel. I like the koala/kangaroo socks. But neither the knit nor the sizing is the same as those striped sporty shorties had. And those socks fit me perfectly. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EBcjhA5eTNMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTT: 9cm Technomic stem for 7cm
Anyone??? On Aug 21, 7:55 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, I've got a 9cm Standard Technomic stem 26.0 that I would like to trade for the same in a 7cm. Photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/6067620647/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/6067620493/in/photostream/ Please email off list. Thanks, Andy (currently in) Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?
I put the Manduka sideways on the nitto big rear rack, and strap it down w/ the long john's irish strap. It sticks out a bit to either side, but no problems. This topic makes me wonder if yesterday's post-ride hamstring cramp might have been avoided if I'd made it to class in the last couple of weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Sheldon Brown sez: http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html On Aug 28, 12:07 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: My favorite cable hanger is this one, which I got from Jitensha but are no longer carried. http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029/IMG_1193bgcolor=black They are the best looking I have ever seen and are completely self centering, once installed. Initial set-up, however is a meticulous, time consuming trial and error process. I think velo orange now carries something similar. As to the tectro brake, I was surprised by this comment: quite powerful especially with ... the straddle cable as low as possible. I'm not a physicist but my understanding of levers, and experience setting up canti brakes suggest that the brake will be most effective when the cable and arm approach 90 degrees. I would set these brakes up with a high straddle wire, like this picture from the Riv site, or even higher:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/tektro-cr720-cantilever-brakes/1... high profile brake with a high hanger and low profile with a lower hanger. yes? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Aha. My rule-of-remembering has been high profile = high hanger; low profile = low hanger, just like Michael's, until I put this brake on with every mm eked out of the straddle wire and it was still disappointing. I'll try a long longer straddle wire, and possibly a wider hanger first. And those Kool Stop pads. As for the roller hangers, the coolest I've seen was on an old Chrome Raleigh mountain bike. Super light, and it opened up so you could put the wire in from the back, instead of threading it through the roller hole. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/4301739147/ Philip (off to pick up a replacement S/A nut) Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Aug 28, 1:00 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: My experience with the CR720 requires the yoke to be as high... so high that I had to use an extra-wide yoke because the straddle cable wasn't long enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bell Question
In favor of the big striker copper bell: it has the nicest sound I've heard and I like the look, personally. I mount mine on a headset spacer-replacement bracket available (or was available) from VO. The striker bell, brass or copper, is far louder than the incredibell and than the other spring-striker bells I've used. On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote: I was going to mention the Incredibell options but you beat me to it. I personally don't care for the big brass bell on the side of the stem look. I realize it's standard-issue Riv. Anyway, I just like the Incredibell on the top my drop bars. I have small hands, it doesn't interfere with anything and it's easy to ring. I looked at the bar-end option, and I think that would be too hard to reach. I don't spend a lot of time down in the drops when I'm on a bike trail, where I'd likely need a bell. Anyway, now that I have a bike that's more trail-able than my road bike was, I do appreciate having a bell; I know that the people on the trails much prefer it to On your Left! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eq1yMm4Ap-wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Sheldon (RIP) did a great job of laying out the geometry factors, but didn't really get to the punchline. The punchline, in my opinion is that the mechanical advantage of high profile cantilevers is almost constant regardless of straddle cable length. Brakes like Tektro CR720s and old Mafacs and similar, has a particular mechanical advantage. You can adjust that a tiny bit, like a few percent, by raising or lowering the straddle wire hanger, but you can't make a major change, no matter where you put it. The upshot is, if you like how those brakes feel with your lever, then be happy, because there is almost nothing you can do to mess it up. If you don't like how they feel (probably because of too little mechanical advantage), then you can tinker all day long with straddle position, and it really won't do much. A different lever that changes mechanical advantage might make a difference. A different brake pad compound that doesn't need as much force to grab might make a difference, but high profile cantilevers are not very tuneable. You'll see some folks running their straddle right above the fender, and others several inches higher. Those two setups won't feel a lot different, all else being equal. The Riv-ish upside to this is that if you use high profile cantis with a lever that works, you can raise the straddle high to clear your rack, fender, and fat tire, and still get similar braking. Low profile cantilevers are super tuneable, but that give you more opportunity to get it wrong. If you are forced to move the straddle to clear a fender or rack, you may be disappointed at the major effect that had on braking performance.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ti_S5hTkBH8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Recall, an ad for Carbonomas fork?
Just got an email from an LBS (MSL, FWIW...). Said that Specialized is recalling several carbon forks. http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/pdf/Final%20Carbon%20Fork%20Recall%20Poster.pdf Sounds like an unintended ad for a Carbonomas fork, eh? http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/carbonomas-fork-700c/50-718 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tthtdpBgbbEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bell Question
I second the hammer strike bell, it has a MUCH better tone (it's louder and deeper, much more effective on the bike path). It also looks fantastic. I have mine mounted on my albatross bars just in front of the rear brake lever. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cQgvCZcmoIgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tell me I'm crazy
If you're having fun while doing it ... who cares what anyone thinks ? LoL!!! The question is not why . . . . it's why not ? !!! It's your trip Patrick . . . .. . relish it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5oIR_kc-WXMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: shorty striped socks or similar
I, too, bemoan the loss of those fuzzy, dreamy Riv 95% wool socks. I would love it (and buy more pairs) if they were brought back and everyone who bought them just signed a waiver swearing, I will not return them if they wear out, no matter how soon. In the meantime, I have found some *rockin'* mohair socks. Mohair is the first hair shaved from a kid angora goat. The socks are pricey, but the anklets make fantastic fuzzy cycling socks. From the website: THERMOHAIR socks have now been worn to both poles, across the Himalayas, to the top of Mt Everest, Mt McKinley, Mt Logan, and in 2000 Kilimanjaro. Lonnie Dupre of Grand Marais, Minnesota wore them to circumnavigate Greenland, a trek that lasted from January to June 2000. Seems to me these are just the socks to wear with your WoolyWarm Buttnup as you're hiking on, that's right, Baffin Island! But don't go thinking that they're just for cold (even though they are most excellent in the cold). I'm wearing them here in Minnesota in August with Teva Hurricanes and this is some serious happy feet comfort. For all you placid warriors who are Minnesotans, there's a vendor that sells them at the State Fair in the building below the Grandstand if I'm remembering correctly and they're there this year. http://www.thermohair.com/ yours in a looking-forward-to-the-cooler-fall-rides way, Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pitlock seatpost binder?
I'm trying to get Pitlock seatpost binder to fit on my Sam Hillborn. I'm not comfortable leaving the Nitto Wayback unsecured out on NYC streets. Reading through some old posts (like this one: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/5bae0fab1f154b9/8afc82f321f00c0d?lnk=gstq=pitlock+seatpost#8afc82f321f00c0d), some suggested using two nuts or washers to fill the recessed space where the bolt and nut are normally positioned. And a few members have posted pictures (http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/ browse_thread/thread/585899cf9731879c/ce4b4188eec09b04? lnk=gstq=pitlock+seatpost#ce4b4188eec09b04). Does anyone know the exact type or spec of the nuts/washers to get? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tell me I'm crazy
Just to show I can be agreeable and follow directions, I'll do as asked. Patrick, you are crazy. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rm6mvyiou38J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pitlock seatpost binder?
I haven't gotten to doing it yet but last year Grant told me he'd designed that seatpost binder to be tough enough to even withstand using a pair of pressure or locking (or whatever they're called) pliers if you needed them in a bind if the bolt broke and that's all you had. So, aside from stripping the paint which we want to avoid, just get anything that fits in there and still allows the bolt to go through. It should be very hard to really damage it. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Chris cch...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to get Pitlock seatpost binder to fit on my Sam Hillborn. I'm not comfortable leaving the Nitto Wayback unsecured out on NYC streets. Reading through some old posts (like this one: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/5bae0fab1f154b9/8afc82f321f00c0d?lnk=gstq=pitlock+seatpost#8afc82f321f00c0d), some suggested using two nuts or washers to fill the recessed space where the bolt and nut are normally positioned. And a few members have posted pictures (http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/ browse_thread/thread/585899cf9731879c/ce4b4188eec09b04? lnk=gstq=pitlock+seatpost#ce4b4188eec09b04). Does anyone know the exact type or spec of the nuts/washers to get? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas
I went from around 230 and completely out of shape to my current 175 (@ 6'4, maintained for 3 years) by switching from a typical American diet, to a vegetarian diet that included a lot of whole grains, and riding a lot more. Somehow the widely accepted methods worked for me. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: That's the point of the book: this isn't universally accepted. We've been pushed this viewpoint for 30 years, but where's the great downsizing of America? One of Taubes main points is that the science behind low fat/high fiber/calories in/calories out is very, very poor. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.comwrote: with respect, what does low-fat, hardly any meat/nearly vegetarian (same thing, right?) have to do with her condition? low saturated fat, nearly vegetarian (as in, eating vegetables, fruits, non-animal whole foods) is universally accepted as a healthful way to eat. There's no arguing that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bell Question
I don't have the one Rex mentions, i have one that does mount under the headset locknut but it's more like a canti-brake stop style. if you have a lot of stuff on your headset (i also have a cable-stop), it can make headset adjustments difficult because you run out of space to adjust headsets. One thing i'd add, i have the headset style one, as well as a clamp that goes around the stem (instead of under it). In both cases you have to really tighten down the bell as it tends to rotate loose as you strike it. I've got the Crane hammer strike one that rivendell sells as well as the brass one that velo-orange sells, both the hammer strike lever style (pay attention as vo also sell a bar-style striker too). The one from vo is not as nice, either in tone or in strike, i tend to get mis-strikes on the vo one because the lever is not as big or positive. While keeping it on the flats takes up a lot of space, it is the most accessible, from the stem you definately have to reach down or take your hands off the handlebars. I have the incredibell too, sound is different, but it's the smallest of the bunch, just make sure you get one that can mount on drop bars, they make ones in narrower clamps for mt/cruiser bars too. the crane japanese bell from rivendell is my favorite among them, even with it taking up the most space. On Aug 29, 5:46 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Andrew McGinley a...@spiritui.com wrote: I'd like to mount it somewhere other than on the flats of the drop-bar. On the threadless steer-tube spacers, perhaps? http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/spacer-bell-mount.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Zack, You sure don't waste time getting going! Love the setup but man that rear bag looks huge! I'm interested in the food, did you actually make eggs for breakfast? Minh--who's dreaming of an S240 this weekend himself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote: Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html Tim, True, but a delta trike with front wheel drive is standard issue to youths world wide. I am sure that patrick was intending on converting to a front wheel drive version to avoid your scenario. Tarik -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tell me I'm crazy
To quote Martin: You so crazy! Ryan On Aug 29, 1:10 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Just to show I can be agreeable and follow directions, I'll do as asked. Patrick, you are crazy. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
Good call Tim. Patrick, we like you alive and crazy! Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote: Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?
Brooks Saddle loops... The wide load would help discourage close passes like those little sideways flags that they sell. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tell me I'm crazy
To call you crazy would just be egging you on. If every picture makes you want to do it more, then do it. http://www.tricycleassociation.org.uk/Activities2.html?lpage=7 Philip On Aug 29, 1:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendells on the Courage Ride in Iowa Aug. 27
Oh, and I was riding this LongLow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/6017876738/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ItEeBAmVLPYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Minh - I did indeed make eggs for breakfast. I think the bag looks right-sized - but I am 6'3 and 220 and riding a 64 cm Sam! I cracked the eggs and put them in a little nalgene bottle right before I left (eggs keep for a while. i wouldn't have done this if I was going to be in 100 degree heat all day, but everything I read led me to believe I would be fine leaving them overnight). One thing that was pretty cool was I rode past about four farms that I usually get food from in my daily life - Laplatte beef, Rockville Market Eggs, and a few Organic Valley dairies. I actually had that beef and those eggs in my bag as I rode past! Next time maybe i'll pick stuff up as I roll, could be pretty fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lHf2nX5ROugJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Earlier this year I did the egg breakfast on a bike-picnic. Less tedious than I thought. I wrapped the eggs in cloth and put the in a ziploc screw-top bowl. http://tinyurl.com/3gvhd9a Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3CBwBsCG-4MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas
Rex, re-read Grants post above.. ; ) On Aug 29, 2:06 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I went from around 230 and completely out of shape to my current 175 (@ 6'4, maintained for 3 years) by switching from a typical American diet, to a vegetarian diet that included a lot of whole grains, and riding a lot more. Somehow the widely accepted methods worked for me. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: That's the point of the book: this isn't universally accepted. We've been pushed this viewpoint for 30 years, but where's the great downsizing of America? One of Taubes main points is that the science behind low fat/high fiber/calories in/calories out is very, very poor. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.comwrote: with respect, what does low-fat, hardly any meat/nearly vegetarian (same thing, right?) have to do with her condition? low saturated fat, nearly vegetarian (as in, eating vegetables, fruits, non-animal whole foods) is universally accepted as a healthful way to eat. There's no arguing that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
I won't call you crazy. Anyone willing to take on a wonderful and awful 2CV is eccentric not crazy, and is a Romantic. Part of the Rivendell life. A fine custom bike that isn't ridden is a tragedy, and if the frame works in a trike conversion, I say it should be made ridden. It would be even more unique than a custom, if it works, and that is better than hanging on a wall. But, my impression is that Joe Starck has made some wonderful bikes, and that he has suffered from mental illness, and can't/doesn't want to make frames anymore, which isn't all that lucrative anyway. So, I won't call you crazy. Just unique! On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Campy Seat Binder Bolt
Eric- I may have one. Unfortunately, I am out of town until Wednesday. If I have one, it is yours. Sean From: Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: [RBW] Campy Seat Binder Bolt Anybody have one of these in your parts bin? I'm looking for one like this: http://branfordbike.com/product/campagnolo-seatpost-binder-bolt-930.htm --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bell Question
now that I have a bike that's more trail-able than my road bike was, I do appreciate having a bell; I know that the people on the trails much prefer it to On your Left! I use a bell when on a big bike ride with lots of people...riders seem to get what it means. However, I find on the busy multi-trail that most people either can't hear them or don't have a clue what they mean. A lot of riders and especially walkers look around aimlessly (...is it the ice cream man?)... or worse turn around to look and veer into the passing area. I now either pass stealthily (word?) or use on your left. Rob Markwardt Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bell Question
Yeah... I've found that they cause more trouble than anything, and seem to come across as more of an offensive gesture than a polite request. I now use mine for aesthetics and ringing it for little kids who smile and wave when I ride by. :-) -On yer left Rex On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:11 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: now that I have a bike that's more trail-able than my road bike was, I do appreciate having a bell; I know that the people on the trails much prefer it to On your Left! I use a bell when on a big bike ride with lots of people...riders seem to get what it means. However, I find on the busy multi-trail that most people either can't hear them or don't have a clue what they mean. A lot of riders and especially walkers look around aimlessly (...is it the ice cream man?)... or worse turn around to look and veer into the passing area. I now either pass stealthily (word?) or use on your left. Rob Markwardt Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Recall, an ad for Carbonomas fork?
Ouch. On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Just got an email from an LBS (MSL, FWIW...). Said that Specialized is recalling several carbon forks. http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/pdf/Final%20Carbon%20Fork%20Recall%20Poster.pdf Sounds like an unintended ad for a Carbonomas fork, eh? http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/carbonomas-fork-700c/50-718 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tthtdpBgbbEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Recall, an ad for Carbonomas fork?
I wonder how Riv is doing selling those forks? I was thinking they'd do better with a flat crown on the 1 1/8 too, but maybe I'm biased. steel is real ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/k6DxV_TYsgcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Vittoria 1976 Men's Cycling Shoe
boy at that price the Dromarti's would be my choice. You can even get the Sportivo with recessed spd cleat so you actually walk around. Those brown ones are pretty slick. http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=10_29_13products_id=15 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FKApjtX7jz4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Vittoria 1976 Men's Cycling Shoe
I love those Sportivos, but don't want to take the chance of wrong size on them. On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: boy at that price the Dromarti's would be my choice. You can even get the Sportivo with recessed spd cleat so you actually walk around. Those brown ones are pretty slick. http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=10_29_13products_id=15 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FKApjtX7jz4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Thanks for that explanation, William, that was enlightening, and jives with my experience. The way my non- engineer's brain makes sense of this is this: The main brake cable moves up when you engage the brake. For a high profile canti to engage you also mostly need to pull up on the straddle wire, and inward a little. On a low profile canti, you mostly have to pull *in* on the straddle cable, while pulling up does very little good. So on a low profile canti the straddle cable has to change the direction of force from the main brake cable, and yes, that's easy to get wrong. On a high profile canti, the straddle cable serves merely as an extension of the brake cable transferring the brake force to both arms. It doesn't have to change the direction of the force, and is thus relatively immune to geometry. (I am sure this explanation won't satisfy an engineer, but it works for me) :) Gernot On Aug 30, 12:23 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Sheldon (RIP) did a great job of laying out the geometry factors, but didn't really get to the punchline. The punchline, in my opinion is that the mechanical advantage of high profile cantilevers is almost constant regardless of straddle cable length. Brakes like Tektro CR720s and old Mafacs and similar, has a particular mechanical advantage. You can adjust that a tiny bit, like a few percent, by raising or lowering the straddle wire hanger, but you can't make a major change, no matter where you put it. The upshot is, if you like how those brakes feel with your lever, then be happy, because there is almost nothing you can do to mess it up. If you don't like how they feel (probably because of too little mechanical advantage), then you can tinker all day long with straddle position, and it really won't do much. A different lever that changes mechanical advantage might make a difference. A different brake pad compound that doesn't need as much force to grab might make a difference, but high profile cantilevers are not very tuneable. You'll see some folks running their straddle right above the fender, and others several inches higher. Those two setups won't feel a lot different, all else being equal. The Riv-ish upside to this is that if you use high profile cantis with a lever that works, you can raise the straddle high to clear your rack, fender, and fat tire, and still get similar braking. Low profile cantilevers are super tuneable, but that give you more opportunity to get it wrong. If you are forced to move the straddle to clear a fender or rack, you may be disappointed at the major effect that had on braking performance.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
