[RBW] Re: Straight TT vs angled TT
I think it goes like this: If you start from the bottom bracket there are really two vectors that completely determine how a frame fits the rider. One is the vector from the bb to the top of the headtube, and the other vector being from the bb to the top of the seattube. If you keep these two vectors fixed they determine theoretical toptube length.If the bb-st vector changes in magnitude, bounded by the top of the seat lug, you get top-tube slope. Lowering the seatlug along the angle of the bb-st vector results in a sloping top-tube, which has two effects: decreasing the lower bound on of the seatpost adjustment range, and lowering the top-tube on one end. A lower top-tube yields lower standover clearance, and decreasing the lower bound on seatpost adjustment range allows shorter people to ride a given frame.Whether these folks will be comfortable or not, of course, depends on whether they are comfortable with the theoretical tt length, which does not change in this process. Apologies if that did not make any sense. It's saturday morning and I have no idealwhy I'm up right now. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aIcdPL6uvWUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Straight TT vs angled TT
Amen, Kelly... I couldn't agree more. On Sep 16, 7:46 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: At 6'5 tall I can say I'm tired of compact frames and the 10 feet of seat post going back and the angled stem going forward.. (since I had to live with it for the last 10 years) Most my bikes now still have a touch to much stem for my taste, but much better than the old plastic race bike or even the old tour bike. I have them set up so differently that it's hard to compare my AHH and Bombadil. Both ride wonderfully. For me it's more of the look you want. And I'm thinking more Atlantis vs Hilbourne shrug Wife has a Roadeo.. hard to beat the looks on that bike. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Straight TT vs angled TT
I am one of those long leg/short torso guys. My Ram and now my Roadeo fit me perfectly. They are a nice compromise between traditionalist and sloping. Don C. On Sep 16, 8:52 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Depends on your body type too. Long leg/Shorter torso people have a harder time getting bikes to fit with flat top tube without a taller stem. Those of us with longer torsos can have a taller frame and can keep the stem in a lower position. Other than the make fewer sizes advantage its all about looks. To the traditionalist, the sloping top tube is unsightly at best. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Straight TT vs angled TT
Hey All, I mention this because nobody else has...yet. Maybe never, which would mean that I am alone on this one, but here goes. One of the things I have noticed as TTs have become angled is that they are less comfortable to lean up against. Too much slope and you end up on the seat, which is a totally different arrangement. I like them flat, or nearly so. And don't get me started on where to put the cable guides All the best, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VZ9R8RpgaXMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: seatpost, stem
Hi all - I'm looking for a decent 27.2 seatpost (sub $30 - prefer something used/vintage and nice to cheap and new) and, on the off chance anyone has one they want to part with, a Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem (26.0 x 7mm - or close). No real luck on ebay so far. Drop a note if you've got anything that fits the bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
I say stick with the Tektros. I have them on three bikes--QB, rando and LHT--and they're great. They seem to set-up easy enough and work well. I've used them in all kinds of conditions and have no complaints and wouldn't hesitate to use them again. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
I really like the CR720s. Got em on two bikes now, and will buy more. Have early 90s Campy high-profile Touring cantis as well (http:// ruedatropical.com/2009/06/rhygin-metax-randonneur/). Love them, but the old smooth brake post cantis are harder to adjust, if that matters to you. And they are very hard to find and expensive now. Late 80s XT high profile cantis are also nice, but have the same more fiddly adjustability. I just bought some smooth-post brake pads with replaceable pads to reduce the need for adjustment on the old brakes. Tried the current med profile Shimanos (BRR550). Didn't like them as much as the CR720s, and more expensive. Haven't tried Pauls, and probably never will. CNC machining just seems like the wrong way to do bike parts (Not as strong as forging, and thus have to be chunkier). Cheers, Gernot On Sep 17, 3:38 am, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
The real question is: Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that? If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous. If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i6ZPJXUUyKsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Trangia nesting mug?
The kettle works wonders. I've had mine for about two years. And I've used it with the stove or thrown it in the fire. Still keep on trucking. One of those great camping things that you HAVE to bring. Make sure you get the right one if you want to fit it with the kit. A carbineer mug works well for me. I clip it to my saddlebag. Make sure you get a nice one, cheaply welded ones break off and your left with a cup and a carabineer... -Manny On Sep 16, 12:49 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2011 1:40:46 PM UTC-5, mizrachi wrote: well, then I'm off to find a mug...and the teakettle! Great Outdoors Depot (online) appears to have the tea kettle. Not affiliated. Just interested myself and came across it. http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/trangia-aluminum-kettle.html I hope it isn't the last one! I'm still thinking :) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Straight TT vs angled TT
Thanks for the insight, I am curious because I will be receiving a San Marcos next week. My current frame is straight TT and the SM is slightly angled, looks to be a little less then the Hillborne. Will let you know how it fits. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7Inz2EpRkbgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg. people, King Cages, Waterford... all good people. If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:50 AM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote: The real question is: Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that? If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous. If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i6ZPJXUUyKsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
After trying a few different cantilevers on my Quickbeam, I finally settled on using V-brakes. I did have to switch levers to do this. I know that many people on this list disdain V-brakes, but I find that they are excellent for braking, especially in wet weather, and I don't have any problems modulating the stopping power. I also find them easier to set up and adjust than cantilevers. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
V-brakes are great. They look a little ugly compared to classic cantilevers, but work great. Cane Creek Direct Curve kinda' splits the difference between the two. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: After trying a few different cantilevers on my Quickbeam, I finally settled on using V-brakes. I did have to switch levers to do this. I know that many people on this list disdain V-brakes, but I find that they are excellent for braking, especially in wet weather, and I don't have any problems modulating the stopping power. I also find them easier to set up and adjust than cantilevers. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh
I think the relative difficulty of mounting aluminum fenders varies from one bike to another. I acquired my Honjo fenders before the YouTube existed, and I used a photograph in a book to get the fender struts positioned correctly (a photo of a very cherry Rene Herse Randonneuse bike in the book Bicycling A Guiness Superlative Guide, on page 77). I'd previously mounted a set of Lefol fenders on my Paramount P-15 back in the day (photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/sets/72157627672432684/), so I had some experience with the process. When I recently transferred the fenders to my Rivendell Road Standard, things got much more interesting. I mounted the fenders using the stainless steel sliding bridge bracket on the rear fender. The installation went well and proceeded without any real problems. Later, however, I had a vexing problem with the rear fender rattling. I bent the stays trying to subdue the rattling with little effect. Finally, I used the fender mounting tap on the bottom of the brake bridge to secure the rear fender. Rattling gone I think aluminum fenders are very attractive, but they're not quite as utilitarian as some of the various plastic fenders IMHO. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Sep 16, 3:27 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 15:07 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: Kelly, thank you, thank you, thank you for the honesty of your post. As both an amateur mechanic and amateur woodworker I have been repeatedly snookered by expert instructions that lulled me into thinking something would be straightforward and doable, only to be reduced to speaking anglo-saxon. Last night I installed a pair of the tektro canti brakes and discoverd that the instructions failed to mention that only a mutant with four hands would find this straight forward. I have bikes with plastic, aluminum, and steel fenders but I wouldn't ever again install fenders without both rereading the instructions and remembering that it will be a PIA. Actually, installing Honjo fenders is pretty straightforward - there's nothing really 'clever' or 'complex' about it - but it's slow and can't be hurried. Reading the instructions about 20 times for a week or two ahead of time, and working on visualizing what goes on helps. Understanding on a deep-down level that it simply cannot be hurried or sped up helps the most. One. Step. At. A. Time. First install. Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark the next. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Breathe. Once you get your mind wrapped around the pace - the process as a whole, but especially the pace - it's not really much of a pain in the a$$. At least, not until your hand cramps and you drop the parts to the draw bolt in the grass and can't find them again. It helps a lot to spread some cloth under where you're working, because your hand is almost certainly going to cramp and you almost certainly are going to drop /something/. The instructions on the VO and Jitensha web sites are pretty good. So, too, are the articles published in BQ. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS/FT: Nitto Water Bottle Cage
Very good condition cage, may not have been used, but has been sitting in a box so dusty/oxidized patina on the welds. Looks GREAT, but won't match a brand new one if that's what you're aiming for. Includes original bolts and fancy sleeves holding them. $30 shipped or PREFERRED trade for two King Iris cages in similar condition. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/618351/in/photostream -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
Are white industries products produced here too? -sv On Sep 17, 2011 11:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg. people, King Cages, Waterford... all good people. If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:50 AM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: The real question is: Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that? If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous. If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i6ZPJXUUyKsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any tricyclists onlist?
The real question is when will RBW release the prototype of the (lugged steel) tadpole trike they have secretly been working on? You heard it here first. Hi John, Wouldn't that be something? I can only imagine how beautiful and expensive a Riv lugged steel tadpole trike would be...and what inventive name Grant would give it. Regarding the visibility issues of riding a very low profile tadpole trike on roads shared with cars, suvs, and trucks- I agree, though the use of high visibility flags really helps. I've also found in my riding experience, that motorists really tend to give a wide berth of clearance to low profile trikers...probably because they're not sure about us, thinking that we're handicapped or something along that line. That courtesy really runs counter to the all-too-often adversarial treatment that traditional cyclists receive from those very same motorists. Still, it's really unsettling to have a humongous suv pull alongside you(in your trike), and you find yourself eye-to-eye with the hubcap/rim of that 18 front wheel. http://photos.imageevent.com/gyuenfamily/geoffswatchpics/websize/P118.JPG Best regards, Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kTuSob1VwoYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any tricyclists onlist?
Hi Patrick, That lugged steel Ken Rogers is a cool looking hunk of steel, for sure, and I've never seen anything like it. Not sure how the handling would be with the big wheels and all. Here's a pic of one of the most popular low profile delta style trikes, the Hase Kettwiesel from Germany(borrowed off the web). I got to test ride one at a recumbent trike dealer here in Northern California. Test result- a lot of fun to ride. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dBBAskgyNgE/TnTZZ6llLXI/AB8/7YupNaG8tMw/Hase%252520Kettwiesel%252520Delta%252520Trike.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/95b6TNAm3bUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56CM Sam Hillborne, Orange, One Top Tube
Tried to reply directly, but there doesn't seem to be the option under the new groups experience. Probably, I'm not looking hard enough. Is this a 700 wheel, canti brake model? Thanks. Ian. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0pwM1hAaSUIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any tricyclists onlist?
Patrick, There's been a thread recently on the Classics Rendezvous google group about racing trikes. Those guys probably have much more experience with this type of machine than most other forum group members. For what it's worth, if you can pick up the Ken Rogers trike at a very favorable price, I'd personally go for it! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Sep 16, 9:49 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got my eye on a trike in Seattle and I've got some questions and would be grateful for any experienced (emphasis!) answers and advice. Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any tricyclists onlist?
Hi Geoff, I agree. Somewhat unnerving when I am waiting at a light and big truck / SUV pulls up on my left and the driver can't even see me or the trike other than my flag out his passenger side window. I am thinking about getting another flag and placing it more forward. Yesterday I was in a left turn lane behind a Cadillac sedan that started to back up and apparently did not see me but the guy behind me honked and she stopped backing. I was ready to get off the Trike and start running. Add to the visibility issue the whole distracted driving overlay and there is some potential for problems. My preference by far is to ride the trike on the open road and I think it will make a great touring machine - probably with a trailer. On the open road drivers do seem to give more room. I have a bright Portland Design Radbot 1000 tail light day and night that also seems to help. John On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Geoff mocha...@hotmail.com wrote: The real question is when will RBW release the prototype of the (lugged steel) tadpole trike they have secretly been working on? You heard it here first. Hi John, Wouldn't that be something? I can only imagine how beautiful and expensive a Riv lugged steel tadpole trike would be...and what inventive name Grant would give it. Regarding the visibility issues of riding a very low profile tadpole trike on roads shared with cars, suvs, and trucks- I agree, though the use of high visibility flags really helps. I've also found in my riding experience, that motorists really tend to give a wide berth of clearance to low profile trikers...probably because they're not sure about us, thinking that we're handicapped or something along that line. That courtesy really runs counter to the all-too-often adversarial treatment that traditional cyclists receive from those very same motorists. Still, it's really unsettling to have a humongous suv pull alongside you(in your trike), and you find yourself eye-to-eye with the hubcap/rim of that 18 front wheel. http://photos.imageevent.com/gyuenfamily/geoffswatchpics/websize/P118.JPG Best regards, Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kTuSob1VwoYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Nitto Water Bottle Cage
PM sent. Hope it's still available. On Sep 17, 9:22 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Very good condition cage, may not have been used, but has been sitting in a box so dusty/oxidized patina on the welds. Looks GREAT, but won't match a brand new one if that's what you're aiming for. Includes original bolts and fancy sleeves holding them. $30 shipped or PREFERRED trade for two King Iris cages in similar condition. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/618351/in/photostream -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any tricyclists onlist?
Thanks; I've seen that and might pose my questions there. I am tempted by the KR but wonder about the left hand drive on American roads. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, There's been a thread recently on the Classics Rendezvous google group about racing trikes. Those guys probably have much more experience with this type of machine than most other forum group members. For what it's worth, if you can pick up the Ken Rogers trike at a very favorable price, I'd personally go for it! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Sep 16, 9:49 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got my eye on a trike in Seattle and I've got some questions and would be grateful for any experienced (emphasis!) answers and advice. Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
Paul Motolites are superb V-brakes. Not cheap... but really great in use. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0TzjHJaCzFUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any tricyclists onlist?
Thanks, Geoff -- it looks fun. I've no particular desire for a recumbent, three or two wheeled, but I've long wanted an old fashioned British trike -- can't say why, unless it's the same inclination that has me riding fixed gears. One advantage of the upright is that it is as visible in traffic as a regular bike and a thread on the CR list had someone saying he had done a century in under 5 hours with really fit riders doing it nder 4. For me, I think the handling difficulty is part of the appeal: it's a new skill to learn. We'll see; I am stil not sure about left hand drive. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Geoff mocha...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, That lugged steel Ken Rogers is a cool looking hunk of steel, for sure, and I've never seen anything like it. Not sure how the handling would be with the big wheels and all. Here's a pic of one of the most popular low profile delta style trikes, the Hase Kettwiesel from Germany(borrowed off the web). I got to test ride one at a recumbent trike dealer here in Northern California. Test result- a lot of fun to ride. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dBBAskgyNgE/TnTZZ6llLXI/AB8/7YupNaG8tMw/Hase%252520Kettwiesel%252520Delta%252520Trike.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/95b6TNAm3bUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes
I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any dedicated bike containers that would fit a 60cm. Bombadil ? ... (or any large and long bike) There's always the boxes, but I'd rather use something more sturdy if i could. I'm trying to figure something out for air travel. The frame height is no problem ... but the extra long wheelbase may be an issue for some containers. I have zero experience in air travel with a bike . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OuLRH9ryvqMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
Are white industries products produced here too? Yep. Petaluma, CA. Philip On Sep 17, 9:56 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Are white industries products produced here too? -sv On Sep 17, 2011 11:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg. people, King Cages, Waterford... all good people. If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:50 AM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: The real question is: Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that? If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous. If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i6ZPJXUUyKsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Arkel Panniers
http://www.arkel-od.com/us/all-categories/touring-bike-bag/b-26-basic-commuter-panniers.html Used on one 100-mile roundtrip camping adventure. In very good condition. Sold the rack these were mated to and no longer have a need for them. Can send pictures upon request. For what it's worth, I prefer Arkel bags over Ortlieb bags quite a bit. Asking $85 shipped. Thanks, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Supernova Tail light seat post mount version
I'll knock 10 off this, 60 dollars! Quite a deal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O4oDHFjC5SYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sold: Nitto Water Bottle Cage
Cage has been spoken for, thanks for the interest! On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:22 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Very good condition cage, may not have been used, but has been sitting in a box so dusty/oxidized patina on the welds. Looks GREAT, but won't match a brand new one if that's what you're aiming for. Includes original bolts and fancy sleeves holding them. $30 shipped or PREFERRED trade for two King Iris cages in similar condition. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/618351/in/photostream -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
I know they are based here but I didn't know they were made here. Thanks -sv On Sep 17, 2011 5:16 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Are white industries products produced here too? Yep. Petaluma, CA. Philip On Sep 17, 9:56 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Are white industries products produced here too? -sv On Sep 17, 2011 11:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg. people, King Cages, Waterford... all good people. If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:50 AM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: The real question is: Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that? If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous. If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i6ZPJXUUyKsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
Two of my three bikes have V brakes (including the Sam Hillborne). For stopping power, they work really well. Am using the Dia Compe drop bar brake levers. For cantilevers, my favorite are the Paul Neo Retros. Have them on a bike and when set up properly they easily compete with V brakes for stopping power. And a lot more powerful than the 720s, in my estimation. The other nice thing about Paul brakes is the enclosed spring. Supposedly a nice advantage in bad weather conditions. Should find out this coming winter. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 17, 11:01 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: V-brakes are great. They look a little ugly compared to classic cantilevers, but work great. Cane Creek Direct Curve kinda' splits the difference between the two. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: After trying a few different cantilevers on my Quickbeam, I finally settled on using V-brakes. I did have to switch levers to do this. I know that many people on this list disdain V-brakes, but I find that they are excellent for braking, especially in wet weather, and I don't have any problems modulating the stopping power. I also find them easier to set up and adjust than cantilevers. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Tubus Tara lowrider front rack
Lightly used, $70 + shipping. Will consider trade in whole or part for nice, large messenger bag or backpack. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Tubus Tara lowrider front rack
Mobile BH On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:47 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Lightly used, $70 + shipping. Will consider trade in whole or part for nice, large messenger bag or backpack. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
The IRD Cafam brakes are great. Easy setup, very powerful, reasonable price. TRP EuroX cantis are really nice when you add Kool Stop pads. On Sep 16, 4:38 pm, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
